5 years building private village out of free dirt for family of 6

We both grew up on the east coast so when we started traveling we came out here we're like oh this is really cool. So you came out here just looking to kind of get away? Yeah I mean we started traveling full-time back in 2015. We were in a big house in Tennessee and then we like realized there was this whole group of people that were just traveling full-time. We're like oh that's cool. So we bought a huge fifth wheel and pretty quickly decided that that wasn't like what we wanted. We kind of had traded our neighborhood for a not as nice neighborhood and so we heard about this thing called boondocking you know which is like camping without hookups and we're like I think we want to camp in more remote areas and so we bought a 1972 vintage Airstream and we went to her parents house in Indiana. We gutted it, we renovated it, built it back from the ground up for boondocking and then spent the next four years full-time just boondocking as much as we could. We put a hundred thousand miles on the truck like we did the thing we wanted to do. We moved out here and Ashley and our oldest Adelaide really had a dream of like a homestead. So we started looking for like more rural places and I think too just spending all that time boondocking and camping off-grid in these like beautiful remote locations it just kind of ruined us for like we weren't going to go back to subdivision you know. That was really the big experiment was like can we do this? How is it going to work? So the reason we kind of ended up here is our kids were getting older and we were just starting to think okay like eventually they're going to be too big for the Airstream and like we need to find somewhere to settle down. Yeah so it's parked now like? It's permanent yeah. Did you use it? Yeah. How many sleeps in there? We have some of the kids sleep in there. We like built these crazy custom bunk beds so they would like fold down into benches if you and the front thing comes up to the table and goes down to a bed. And you all fit in here four kids, two parents, six people. Yep and it's 31 foot so 28 foot inside. It's still really nice and comfortable inside but it's kind of the kid's space. And so we found this property here. This county has really become a hub for experimental alternative and natural building. We just wanted to do as much of it ourselves as we could even though we had no idea how to do any of it. This is the first thing that we built and so this is our earth bag solar shed office. And what we see there is that earth bag? Yeah it's made out of the same thing. And you have a big sign that says no more bags so you're tired. There's a million pounds of dirt in that house. We'll talk about that in a minute. So you see that the shape of it reflects the material the earth bags. Right. We really wanted to kind of go for that aesthetic where it still felt handmade. You know like it's clean and you know it looks kind of modern but also kind of handmade at the same time. Oh wow. Oh it smells good too. Look at that ceiling. We're trying to use like cheaper materials so that's just plywood that we put some linseed oil on. So it's relatively cheap. This was like so much experimentation. We experimented with an earthen floor. We covered it in boiled linseed oil. There's about five or six coats on this so yeah it's held up really well. It was an experiment. Everything has been an experiment. And this is a bedroom back in here then? It's our guest bedroom. Oh it's your guest bedroom. Did it start as your bedroom? It's technically our bed. Legally it's a guest bedroom. It's a guest bedroom. A guest bedroom that you can sleep in if you want. Yeah this is like a nice little cozy spot. This is a 10 foot diameter circle so it's like the perfect size to put the king size bed and still be able to walk around it. We have a raised bed frame so that we have lots of storage underneath so that's really nice. And then like because this is the east side every morning these bottles light up and like cast beautiful light prisms. This is like a perfect little circle for a bed. Yeah it's real cozy. It feels like a hug when you come in here. Like a warm hug. Yeah that is the thing about earthen building. Like it really feels like warm and inviting. The perfect circle. I hope so. Do you measure and measure or are you kind of I mean because earth bags don't seem like they'd necessarily be super precise. Well I mean you set your center compass and then it's pretty easy to get a perfect circle. Hyper adobe earth bags are like a netted tube mesh that you fill with soil, you wet, you compact, or you add a little cement for stabilization. We ended up designing this. It's like a rectangle intersected with a circle. Because your kids have really gotten into it. Yeah they've learned so much. It's been really fun. Like you know a big reason of why we moved here and why we're doing all this is just so we can spend more time like doing stuff with them you know before they get too old. And they don't complain. If they don't feel like it we don't make them. And if we do stuff it's usually just a part of the day. Like they have their morning to do their schoolwork and it's usually not every day too. We try to find a good balance that's important. A lot of earth bag building they build domes right you know they kind of come to a point you don't have to build a roof which is good but here there's a real water problem. Wells are being sucked dry by some big agriculture and dairy farms and stuff so drilling a well is kind of cost prohibitive so catching rainwater makes more sense. So this to us it made more sense to just build the wall straight up put a traditional roof on catch that rainwater and you can add shade and help insulate it a little bit better than if you just had a domed earthen roof. The thing about earth bags is a lot of people think because they're thick because these are 16 inch walls they're not technically insulated because they do have a thermal mass transfer. So the sun if the sun hits it it will absorb and go through but it's like a 12 hour delay so if you design it right if you design a design like a long south facing wall then you can use that to your advantage in the winter and then if you have a nice overhang roof you can mitigate some of that in the summer. So when it's let's say when it's on a hot summer day how nice is inside? It's got that 12 hour delay right so weirdly like in the middle of the day it's cooler but then at night it gets warmer because the sun has been hitting it throughout the day. So like middle of the night two o'clock we're like kicking covers off because it gets really warm in here. Right so the the walls are thick and so once you get the temperature inside regulated you're not going to lose it through the walls because they're thick. The mini split it barely has to work like to keep because the walls are so thermally efficient it doesn't have to work very hard to keep you comfortable. And you're using solar for the split anyways. Yeah yeah yeah everything's solar powered. Our system is right here there's a big 30 kilowatt hour battery bank inside here that we built and then big charge controllers and a big inverter and then that's all trenched out. Yeah so this is the first thing we built and it really kind of got us going on the Hyper W earthbags because we're like okay we were able to do this as a family it's a pretty safe building process it's not too difficult let's see what else we can do with it. And so we have an outdoor shower that's also made out of earthbags and a ton of glass bottle bricks. The outdoor shower is magical it's like one wall of earthbag that like wraps around itself and then we pour it a little pad and the drain goes to our big Berman swale where we have all those trees and then a little propane on-demand water heater. Yeah so just it senses water pressure kicks the flame on and then you can you can adjust it here you know however hot you want it. Yeah so all that is coming from here that water yeah and that's plenty of water you're getting? It depends on the time of year in the summer we are going to be drip irrigating a lot more that's where most of our water goes is the drip irrigating the 70 trees. It's a beautiful little spot too it's you know private but like views. That was the thing like once we built it we were kind of like why didn't we do this earlier? We tell everybody that moves out here get shade and then get your outdoor shower. Well and solar power. When we first moved out here we couldn't figure out how to get pressurized water because we finally realized if you just get an rv pump and a 12 volt battery and a solar panel you can pressurize water pretty quickly. So just a marine car battery a charge controller and a shunt and a servo so it can connect to our wi-fi network and tell us all the information about it. As we've been out here we've built more solar systems and we've got a little more nerdy and more technical and we just want to like keep tabs on stuff too because like we've had situations where like you're getting a shower and the battery dies you know like if you had set up notifications to tell you that that battery was getting low beforehand then you wouldn't have those problems. Yeah we're just trying to get smarter about that stuff the longer that we're here. This is our bathroom. This building is mostly built out of natural and recycled materials. So that used to be the deck from our airstream. And then the door and all of the glass it's all recycled. We named it the Casa de Caca but we recently ripped out all the composting stuff and plumbed it put electric in washer and dryer sink toilet that goes to our septic. How hard was it to plumb it? We actually had to plumb this building when we built it because we told the county we were doing a composting toilet they wanted the urine diverted to a real septic which I think is stupid. Washer dryer was a huge upgrade for us it's been a time saver. We did have a hand washer that we used for a while and that's great during the summer but in the winter it's not that great. You're also collecting water from here? Every roof collects water. And huge amount of solar here. Yeah we've got between this and what's on the airstream roof we have 10,000 watts on this system. The solar and the solar shed were like the first big thing we did when we got Was this next? The dome. So there's a fun story with the dome. We were well into sort of designing our roundhouse which we'll look at in a minute but we were inspired by this house in Australia called the Willow End Roundhouse. So when we started making videos about the house we mentioned it and this guy that helped build the house he got in touch with us and he had been watching us for a while and he's like I built that and so he's like I'm going to come over here and I'm going help you work on your house and we're like what? Beautiful. So we're like why don't we build a dome here like you're going to be here it'll help cover your cost of travel and so he ran this super adobe workshop. Make sure our forms are in line with the center of the circle. So super adobe earth bags are a little different than hyper adobe. They're like a white enclosed bag and you put barbed wire between the layers. Hyper adobe is like a netted open bag and you don't need barbed wire because the holes in the mesh allow it to connect to the next layer when you put it on. We're really getting into the top third of the dome so that's where it starts coming in the most and always make sure the barbed wire is in contact with both the top and the bottom bag. Because it's it's all circular it's all connecting to itself and it becomes really strong so if you're building something in like a earthquake heavy zone these are great because they have a built into them and they're all connected to each other so they hold together very well during like an earthquake. But this this was fun we built the whole structure in one week. So you now have seen the difference so this is a super adobe and these two are both hyper adobe? Most all our other buildings are hyper adobe. Would you do I mean did you do this and think no I don't want to do this anymore? We like it we're we're more on the hyper adobe side just because we're doing mostly vertical stuff with roofs but they're both great. So this super adobe is better for the rounded shape? It's really it's the bag style it's a bag that doesn't stretch and then you have your barbed wire that's keeping it from slipping off and so that allows you to set it in and do the math there's a lot more math involved to get that dome right because it has to be a certain type of arch you can't do a hemispheric arch because it won't support itself. I think this is called a lancet arch you can see it's kind of like a like a beehive almost and there's little steps you can climb up to get up on top of it if you want. It was a really fun little project and so we were going to make it a guest dome and then our oldest daughter was like I would like this building please and we're like okay we're good. So it has become our daughter's dome it's very small. It's like people size. Yeah so this is a nine foot dome but because it it comes in you can see there's a lot less space than that 10 foot that we were in earlier. So it does step down so you get some extra space that way or we step up to come in. Yeah it's kind of a combination of both. We wanted to sink it a little bit but the math ended up not working out for the step and still having a place to come down into. I do like how actually you feel how tall are you? I'm six foot. And like there's a lot of space. Yeah yeah there's plenty of vertical space yeah for sure. So it's really just shaping around the human body in a way. Kind of yeah. Very. Yeah and you can you can go bigger with domes for sure. The wider you go the taller you have to go the way the math works out because you have to follow that math and go up at this the speed like you can't go in too fast or else you start you know getting a dome that isn't safe right. So so we just we didn't want something like crazy tall. So it's really just one big bed. Yeah well we we found a dresser and then we built a bed on top of it so there's a bunch of storage behind it and then she's got all the drawers but this is again one of those builds where Ashley really came in and she did all the art. We've got all these glass bottles there's a bunch of stained glass work on the door you know even like this like two-tone plaster earthen plaster that she did. It's really beautiful. Yeah probably my favorite part is the fireplace. So I don't know we built a little tiny hyper adobe dome off of the side and then this little tiny wood stove helps keep it warm and it vents out at the top. It's got its own we had to do a bunch of math to figure out how to get it centered in there and have the smokestack come out and have the right length on it so it actually transfers the heat right. It's always exposed to the sun like we talked about thermal mass transfer because it's fully exposed 360 all the time in the winter it actually stays pretty warm all the time because it's always getting hit by the sun and the summer it gets a little warm and uncomfortable so that's where we bring the little mini split inside. But even stuff like you know Ashley did this little penny floor on there. Which is kind of timely given that there's no more pennies coming out gotta use them for something. Yeah and then all these like used bottle caps on the in the floor like yeah we're just like we're always trying to find like little ways that we can. Integrate trash. Yeah like use things but they also make it beautiful you know like that's what's so cool about it. It's funny it's almost like even with this big bed it's almost Alice in Wonderland-ish because it's really outsized and strange. It is it's hard to get up into yes yeah. Everything that we built here was practiced so that we could build our home so we've not had any construction experience so that was the first thing we built and we were like okay now that we're comfortable with the building style and we feel like we know what we're doing the house was the next thing that had to get done. So we kind of took everything that we learned and experimented because also the hyper adobe style of earthbag there really wasn't anything anywhere about it like it was very new even though it had been developed like 30 years ago in South America but there's nothing online about it so we were just having to figure it out and so yeah we kind of became the hyper adobe people. We're pretty comfortable with the material now and feel like we could probably build about anything we wanted to with it not that we want to lay any more earthbags anytime soon. What's the process? So you want to mix soil pretty even amounts of like clay rock and sand and then we add five percent portland cement just to stabilize it the holes in the bag so you wet it down you lay the next layer on top and when you tamp it into place it just kind of glues itself to the layer so that way you don't have to put the barbed wire in between. Glue itself the glue being sort of the clay clay and cement yeah it's pretty cheap the material goes a long way dirt's relatively inexpensive so you can build your walls not necessarily quickly unless you have a big team but you can build it cheaply so we mix it take it in a wheelbarrow and then kind of scoop it in and we have a system where we take like two five gallon buckets we cut the ends off and make them tall and then you just scrunch that bag up over it so as you fill your bag it extrudes off of that bucket so it's almost like 3d printing in place but you're like holding it you're the printer yeah we're going to attempt to do one more bag before the sun sets and you can either hold it by hand or you can do we do a dolly system too where it's like a dolly the bucket hangs on and then you can just pull it and fill it that way you get an extra set of hands it's actually a great analogy of 3d printing because it kind of comes that similar idea of like yeah especially this circular building because it's all coming from that one center point you need a kind of need a team yeah and we had a team we had a really good family of six like when we got going we did most of this ourselves how far could you how fast can you come up i mean this is huge yeah so it took us about a year and a half and our our family built it up to about here oh okay so we did a lot of it ourselves but by that point we were like i think we're done the house almost broke us for sure we got about 400 tons into it and we were up to the tops of the windows and we were i think we were done the kids were done we were like i don't think we can do this like this might be the last one that we can do unless it works out with you buddy so yeah we kind of called the hell mary we reached out to our community and we opened up the property for a whole month and we had people come and stay with us and we fed them and they got to camp here and we worked on the house every day for a month and we finished the walls in 27 days we finished all the walls so we laid about a hundred tons in a month so that's where we're working on sort of a new process for laying faster a half a bucket to get this filled out with the people here we were laying about a foot a minute which is fast it went really fast so you can build these buildings quick but you need a lot of people so if you want to like you know pay to feed a bunch of people for a while and get them out here for a week or two like you can make pretty significant progress or you can take it slow oh my gosh there's so many layers here yeah about 30 layers on the inside it's 12 feet tall in the center nine feet tall on the outside you have to respect these walls because they're so heavy a section this big weighs about 700 pounds just one one little section yeah yeah because it's thick it's 16 inches thick it'll take a bullet it's fireproof it's very solid it's basically a brick wall what's the foundation so it holds all this weight so when we started talking to like concrete companies you know we were like so can we pour the pad first and they were like no we're not putting a concrete pad so what we ended up doing is we brought in 300 tons of av mix and you can see how it's built up here and then we brought in a big machine and we actually dug out trenches where all these walls go so it goes down about 18 inches there's about five inches of compressed like a rubble trench and then the lower four layers those are all wrapped in a vapor barrier the groundwork was ridiculous there was way too it's think like we were digging in the dirt for months because of this design once you dug it you couldn't get a machine back in here it's big it's about 2500 square feet of walkable space it's about 5000 square feet footprint it's kind of crazy do you think this is among the biggest ever on this type of construction i think it's close to it we did joke about looking into the guinness book of world records so when you walk in the front door there's actually going to be some framed walls in here so from this section here this is going to be framed and that's like a walk-in pantry all the framed walls are still coming off of the center point of the building so the center point is that black pole right there so it's going to be skinny there but it's going to come out here so it'll be wider back here as it goes in the cool thing about this design is that curved circular walls are super strong and so you don't need a lot of additional buttressing or like lateral walls to keep things from falling in but by adding those straight walls you get to do some more traditional furniture but you also have these like curved natural surfaces against this long wall we have the 11 foot window and this will all be kitchen counter i mean we designed this whole house around that view we literally when we were spraying it on the ground we were like rotating the entire house until we got this straight wall pointed right at the mountains yeah it's like a western kind of like it's like the art piece of like it changes throughout the day so it's instead of art that's that's our art that's why we moved here you know how hard is it to make a huge window like this in earthbags you have to support it yeah we have two i-beams over that because it's 11 foot span you really need to be out at least a foot on each side of any opening we did two feet over on each side so that's two i-beams right over it so it's not going to go anywhere those are all connected together too so it's basically one big piece you can see over all of our doors and windows we have lentils or headers and those all have to basically take the weight off of the openings you got to build them pretty heavy duty for sure because there is a lot of weight on top you know a lot of weight on top i will say that like earthbags are pretty good at sort of diffusing that force so like if you look at if you look at all the outlets they were built into the wall and it was laid over and then you've got 15 20 rows above it and there's no downward pressure on it and when you come to a corner you want them to overlap that way the two sections of the walls that are going different directions really get glued together and so you can see we talked about lateral forces because this is such a long straight wall you have to add buttressing and so you can see how we've interlocked there's a wall that goes out to the outside and that helps support this window too you really technically should have buttressing like that on a straight wall at least every 10 feet so there is a lot of math on this there's a lot of things you want to think about for sure do you need an engineer we didn't but we did a lot of research you know i'm like and her dad is a really good resource too he has a lot of traditional construction experience that one's going to be a slider and up here i need to come up exactly because if you know the rules like yeah there's not a lot of them but you know there are some important ones there's some really great books you can get like earthbag building has been happening for a really long time and even though hyper adobe is new those core concepts still apply they're easy to find if you want to research them why is this part higher than this end here the roof will be pitched it'll be it's about a 1 12 pitch with the height being there my dad has been building his own house so we're basically using big metal bar joists that are going to set in a radial pattern around and then we have to connect them with purlins and then we got to put metal roofing and it's going to be super complicated but it'll be a very unique roof for sure so this is the hallway so we have like six doors off of this hallway that go to the bathroom a mudroom and then four kids bedroom so that's why this area over here looks so big is it's actually six rooms we just haven't put in the framed walls yet so you can make an arch with just hyper adobe yeah you got to start kind of low and let it build all the way over as a single piece and then you just build up to the side and so because it starts down here and it's got its own pressure as it pushes it's kind of like the reason a circular design because it pushes in on itself but it it doesn't have anywhere to go like it's going to hold itself tight so we really wanted a large hallway this is a little over five foot wide these circle forms are going to be bottle bricks and that way the light can shine on this flat wall here from the bottles it has three operable windows in this hallway and transom windows above the regular windows so that you know in the summer the sun sets over here so this wall is going to get pounded in the summer in the evening so if we open the transom windows we're going to let that heat out before it hits the kids room in theory that's we're hoping it works that's our experiment yeah but the way it's curved it's never going to get like a ton of light you know hitting it because it's it's round and there's other things here so i think it'll stay really cool in the summer honestly but i feel like once this is finished the hallway is going to be like it's going to be the focal point as you walk down this like it's so tall one of the cool things though about walking down it you don't see the end so like it's kind of like a surprise when you get to the end because it's like walking around in a circle and you keep finding rooms i mean it's this it's interesting right it's a different way of thinking about a house yeah eventually there'll be a framed wall with a door here and then this is our bedroom and bathroom so now we're trying to find our roof pieces you got to find like the metal truss pieces because we don't have engineered plans and so most places don't want to sell us new ones so we're having to find something used really they want the liability because we if we had engineered plans they would but because we don't because we're opting out of all this stuff and we've just designed it all ourselves they're like i don't know if i want to sell you that because you're engineering um we are but her dad is a great resource and he's helped us like we know how we need to build it we just got to find the pieces all very diy one thing that we really wanted to do is take advantage of the view so out this is a little private bathroom we have this bench here and the tub will be here so when you're sitting in there that's your view and you don't have any neighbors right nope it's pretty nice is your building has it some sort of stonehenge if you consider your orientation as much as we could this was the main one because we wanted the view of the mountains and everything else was just kind of it is where it is yeah so here you can kind of see those buttresses a little better and they are pretty significant because this is a very big wall and there's a huge opening in it so we wanted to make sure it's it's very well supported so in between those two buttresses is going to be like an outdoor kitchen and then the fun part is the courtyard in the center so that will be open yes it'll all be open there'll be a two-foot overhang on the roof on the inside here but this is kind of going to be a gathering spot i want to have we we don't agree on this i would like to have a big bench around the whole thing but he's like i don't know about that we'll see i might be done with earthbags but yeah this is the center point so this is what everything is designed off of is off this one point here all the windows and doors like everywhere are like a perfect triangle with a center point like if you were to pull a line to each corner it's a triangle everywhere so every door and every window we're a little ocd but it's it's neat you can see how she designed it so like even those bottles are directly through on each of the windows yeah you can see we've got straps so we're using the weight of the bag to hold the bond beam down that the roof will be attached to so we're using the weight to our advantage to keep that roof down on top of the building but you can see those straps aren't pulled down yet though we still got to do those yep so we're over building everything and just build something that will last forever we just didn't want to build a house that was like you know a traditional house is going to last like 70 years before it needs to be fixed or whatever and we've seen too many problems on traditional construction so we're trying something else and see if this works you know because you came out and decided like this is the right place for us you didn't cut you didn't come out and think okay no it's too hot or it's too dry it's too i mean it's definitely a challenge it's a lot of people come out and leave in three months because they're like this is too much but the climate monsoon especially is really insane epic storms crazy wind and lightning the winds we get during monsoon can be like hurricane force winds and they're they're uplifts too they can like create these little microburst updrafts that will concentrate all their power and just when we've seen it pick up entire buildings and just throw them we've been experimenting with different things like this bench it's also hyper adobe so it's 18 inch bags two rows of 18 inch bags and a 12 inch backrest so two different sizes and that's just an 8 inch bag that will be the fire pit we can fit 14 people comfortably so many little structures lots of experiments right the chicken garden but it definitely showed us you could build circular earthbag buildings at least that big without any problem and so that gave us more confidence going into the house design and it's a really cool idea i actually came up with it it's a combination chicken coop and garden and so the inner part is the chicken coop and then the outer ring is the garden all this outer space on each side will be garden but because of the shape of it and this taller wall it's always going to have some shade so it will be way less intense for the plants but you can see like the grass has grown so well because there's more shade and we haven't done anything to it we also built this structure around trees so we try to not knock down any trees unless we have to it takes a long time for trees to grow here so we want to give them the best chance that we can and then the idea is the chickens stay on this side they sleep in there lay the eggs in there and then when the garden's done for the season we just can let them out and they'll clean up the garden but during garden season we can take all the waste and like throw it into here for them so this works all together and once their mess is composted in here we can take that and put it in our garden and this is another like you know it's got a roof it's got rainwater catchment on the back it has a whole victron pump system that pressurizes the water into here and then also to the back where we can drip irrigate around so we've done like three turns of meat birds but that's something else i really want to get back to is like animals for food so but the house we're like we're like trying not to get sidetracked with getting the house done and the goats were they they're over here at the barn is the shipping container a barn yeah we crowdfunded that because our daughter we had some goats and it was not a great setup and she really wanted to do more goats and milk properly but we were like we got to start the house so we got a 40 foot container we framed and insulated the inside and it has solar on top and rainwater catchment we learned a new fencing style this field fencing we learned a lot it was a whole different way of building you know it was very different than earth bags but it was good testing for some of the stuff we'll do in the house you know like more traditional system and you had to cut the container well her dad cut this one and then we cut this other one we learned how to do it so it's like a climate controlled sanitary milking room and then in the middle section is like a whole kidding stall that can be modular so it can be rearranged and depending on if we have baby goats or kittens or like we can contain them in different ways and then feed storage on the back where the big container doors are so you learned to weld she did she's the welder you have to kind of know how to do a little bit of everything out here because you had to cut into the container yeah so my dad actually came and showed us how to do that which was really helpful because then we could take that and do the other one it was a big learning experience but it was easier than i thought it would be so it's just a lot cleaner for her to milk the goats in here and she can get the milk right in the fridge she keeps the pail cold because like with goat milk you want to get it cold as quickly as possible so having that in here has been really great but this is a kidding area so all of these stalls are modular you know we can have three or we can have one big one or a big one and a small one and then we have all the horse and goat feed so we can open it from that side and fill all the feed in here this was like a really big thing that my dad came up with is this sliding door so if there was like a predator or something we needed to lock everybody in here we could but we didn't leave it open most of the time but the way my dad does everything like it has to line up perfectly like it looked like it was never never done it's very used yeah this was cheap we repainted it you know and and built this whole you know any roof catch rainwater put solar on so just milking goats then yes we do want to learn how to raise them for meat but i'm having a hard time with that but adelaide's like if we're gonna have them we have to eat them but it's hard like you have to like really jump through that mentally and like prepare yourself for that and i'm not there yet but if if the need arose we could do it you know so were you thinking in the design of the house were you thinking of the golden rule i mean it just kind of ended up that way i think we were more worried about the circular strength of the walls which turned out to be like a spiral that is the fibonacci sequence right right it's gonna take how much more time do you have any idea no idea people ask us that a lot and i'm like well i don't think anybody's ever done this before i don't know it's also just like we're trying to do it as we have the cash to do it so it's it will take as long as it takes for us to pay for it i think the further we've gotten into it yeah i think we're like well maybe this was a little it's a lot yeah we're building not just for us though like this is really this is going to our kids this is we're building for generations like this is not going anywhere