Is This Cheating Mathews TITLE 36

I don't get it. I don't get it. Guys, welcome to the channel. This is the Target bow that Josh let me borrow last year and I told him he couldn't have it back until I got a title in hand. Here it is. We're going to do my first real Matthews Target bow build with you live here right now. But first, thank you, sir. It's been a pleasure. You're very welcome. I'm glad I could beat you at tack with a regular bow and not that. Oh, you lost though. Where's the scorecard? I kept it. This year's going to be different. We're bringing Bodie Turner to tack. Big Sky. Can't wait to bring that to you guys. He's going to show us what's up. My goal is to beat Bodie in one target out of 40. Maybe one out of 40. That'd be a reasonable goal. It's a good goal. Yeah. Josh, give us the breakdown. What did I just get here? You have the title 36, the latest offering from Matthews, which is crushing the entire sport. It's amazing how many people have bought one of these from me that know how to shoot, that I know they really know how to shoot. I've never shot better in my life right out of the gate. I really think it's the magic of how wide this limb set is personally. I'm trying to look at the bow and go, okay, why are so many people shooting so well with this bow? And I think it's because it's a wider limb than has ever been put on a bow. Period. Like you have to redo your, oh, you'd probably don't have them on that. Like we can't even press this with your other set. Like it takes a three inch wide. I didn't even think of that. Oh, great. Yeah. I have them in the shop though. Okay. I have a, so we can swap yours out, but it's three inches wide. So most, you're like your standard, like from tip to tip end here, I want to say for the press, you need your press to be at a three inch width because they are normally two and a half. So you figure if that's three, you can press the bow, right? So you're touching internally. Got it. Like most, if you look at a standard bow, they're like an inch narrower. So this massively wide limb set, which the whole entire thing is almost four. It's like three and three quarter to the pocket, three and a half to the limb width. It's just really hard to move left and right because of that. I think personally, that's my initial gut and playing with it. Like it's, it's just different. Um, outside of that, I mean, it's still the same top hat system, which everyone's familiar with standard roller guard, just longer. You can move it back and forth. So they gave you a greater amount of room here to torque 10, which is a common thing in target archery. And the rest we're going to put on here, it makes it actually really easy to do with. Uh, they do come with this big old brass weight on here to try to get the bow heavier, because in my opinion, this bow is really light for a target bow, which makes it a sneaky, sneaky, long distance hunting bow. If a guy really wanted to. Okay. Cause if you take this off, if you look at this riser, it's cut a lot like a lift. So they've seen seed out like almost as much metal as you could cut out of this riser to make the bow actually light. And then throw this on here to make it a heavy boat. Almost every one of these I saw in Vegas did not have this on it for real. Yeah. They took it off and put a bunch more weight on their farce out there. You're moving it out farther away, which makes a whole lot of sense, but it doesn't feel ridiculously light as a standard one-off target boat. But yeah, if you look at all the cuts and intricate work on it, just like a lift, it's like a really long lift with more of a forward limb slope. Cause like it or not this limb angle typically will point a little bit better than a beyond parallel beyond parallels feel like they make you bounce a little bit more little, little tiny bit more forward limb slope kind of pushes the bow out a little bit more. So this type of system, in my opinion, is like the perfect angle. Okay. This bow is really, really, really cool. And for 2099, it really should be, which by the way, I can actually sell this to you and ship it to you. And they're on my website right now. So check it out. Why would me, the guy called elk shape who only cares about elk hunting get into a target boat? Why am I doing this? Give it all the excuses that you give me all the time about why you're losing. Okay. So I got it. There is no way accuracy wise to exceed this, right? So this is, this is to know how accurate you really can be at your own skill level. Plus if you're going to shoot things like indoor, are you going to shoot like real outdoor tournaments, like Redding or things like that nature, you're cutting yourself very short by shooting a hunting boat. Right. Right. So this is the end all excuse of, I can go to something like that and I don't have to redo everything I'm doing with, you know, my hunting boat, like in an ideal scenario, even in the tax, if you're shooting a lift, right. You're going to probably hunt with a heavier arrow than you would ideally shoot target with. Right. Grab me that. This is why I got it. This is your abusive target, which this is designed to be hard to point out by the way. Yeah. This is literally the most difficult thing to point out. If you set this next to an NFA face, they're the exact same size. This thing looks 30% smaller. It's the color. It's the lack of boldness to the lines. Everything about this is supposed to be harder to shoot. And this is what everybody should be doing in the winter because this is the elimination of all the variables except you. First things first is probably looking at the rest. We're going to go with the QAD, but not the MX2. We got something up our sleeve. This is a spring steel style rest called the Ultra Rest Tri. TRI. This is a blade. So this doesn't move. It just has some spring to it in a target environment. Oh, somebody didn't turn off their noise. It's Kidder. That's why I leave mine off. Blake Kidder texting. What does he want? He says... Just say, hi, Thundermitt. Yo, the cat was legit, man. Congrats. Were you happy with the Magnum? Oh, yeah. The Broadhead you used. The hole was huge. The cat died. Right. I'm just going to say I wasn't very happy. Oh, no, no. Hold on. Say, I wasn't very happy, Thundermitt. Then he'll know you're with me. He's got an iPhone. We got a bubble. Oh, how big was the cat, by the way? OK, he got it. Ha, ha, ha. Damn it, Josh. Time to send him a picture. All right. Anyways, guys, sorry about that. Blake Kidder. Look him up. The Outdoor Group. Biggest hands on the planet. So this attaches to an integrated style system just like any other one of their rests do. It's micro-driven and you can... What's unique about this is it's actually kind of designed to torque to where it's one of the first rests I've seen that's really built for that purpose. So you can infinitely move this back and forth. And then this is like your keeper position as you slide it forward to rest against the bow, so you know how far it is. And you're supposed to be able to take it off and put it back on with ease as well. But this whole thing is designed around being able to torque tune and micro-drive. Just when I got my balance clear with Spokane Valley Archery. But yeah, it's got a ton of really cool adjustments and it's all micro-driven. So we can stick this on here. You can change the angle of the blade, everything. And then they make a whole bunch of different blades as well. They make different widths, different tensions based off of what you're trying to put on it. So if you're trying to shoot an outdoor target arrow versus an indoor 27 diameter arrow that you would use on paper. What if I shot with these? So you'd use a much smaller blade and a thinner blade. So this is like a 12 thou. This has got like an indoor target set up on it right now. Okay, so this is typically what you... Is this too big for that? Yeah, you'd swap the blade out to a skinnier thickness and a narrower channel. The hard part about this is keeping your arrow on as you draw it back because you got to draw really smooth, right? Really, really smooth. Okay. So personally, yeah. If you're going to shoot indoors, you put that on there. Okay. That thickness and just swap it out when you want because it interlocks under here. If I remember right. So if you take this plate off it, it pops in square. And that... So you can change... I'm not sure. You can change them back and forth. Oh yeah, there's a couple. So that's how they look underneath for locking it in. So that's an 08 medium width and a 10 medium width. Let's use parallel pros. Okay. So then we're going to probably... What are these weight? Do you know total? Yeah, 447 with a 125. So it's probably that one then. Probably want the medium one because your indoor arrow is going to be heavy. Okay. Because it's overall weight. And just like that one, you remove this plate, screw that on, put it back on. I would never not use a micro adjustable rest ever again. Like once you go back to course... If you're tuning your own stuff. Yeah. Like if you're going to work on your own bow and you're going to try to tune your own stuff, you have to have a micro adjust rest. Because so much of tuning is wheeling and timing and then small finite adjustments to your arrow rest and course adjustable stuff makes that really difficult. See this guy over here? Yeah. No more. And I like OMP, but I've been pulling my hair out for years trying to get things level with a ball thing. And you set it and then it moves a little, moves a little. So I have about 30 hours of just trying to finesse bubbles with this. No more. Yeah. This makes it really simple. Do you want to change the blade out? Yeah, I will. Is this square worthless? No. In fact, I think Saunders discontinued the one that's in your left hand. Although I like it better. Okay. Do what you like. Yeah. And tell the people why you like this one. Well, I like it because it's contoured, right? So it actually touches on it like a round arrow would. This is mimicking an arrow. Now, granted, this is slightly bigger than, you know, the diameter of arrow that you're using. But if you're using this as the bottom of your arrow, so I don't pay any attention to the upper part. It's always where the bottom is. Where does that come to rest against the launcher? Because a straight edge like that isn't actually mimicking your arrow. Gotcha. This is actually mimicking your arrow when you're trying to figure out where a 90 degree angle is off of that. So, but we'll grab that wrench, pull that blade off. So I'll move that down to where it freely touches. So you just keep moving it down to where it touches and let go of it. And then it's going to come off a little bit and move it down again. And then it should stay on there. So that's truly the bottom. So all I'm doing when I'm using a square like this is marking the bottom of where the arrow should be in relation to that line right there. Okay. Because that's the bottom that lines up with that bottom. Yeah. And then it's rounded. So you don't end up a little off. If you're trying to use a square edge, you're almost going to always end up a little bit off because it's not taking into account the roundness of your arrow. Okay. Because that bottom of your arrow isn't actually going to sit on the launcher. Okay. So that's where your bottom would go. And then it's, which arrow are we making this for? We're making it for this. Yeah. Right. Okay. So we're going to put that on there and that's going to represent your soft knot on your black there. And you want a little wet. It's probably a tiny bit tight, but it's not like you can rotate and it's not rotating your string. That's true. So it's okay. Okay. Right. But, but you normally, you can move this back and forth a tiny bit and you can just tiny, but I'd say maybe. Have you made a video on how to reserve? Is it on your? Yeah, it should be on there. Do you know the title of it? I think everyone should know how to do that. How to reserve center serving. Yes. I'm pretty sure it's reserving a center serving with MFJJ. So, and then you want to leave a little bit of daylight in between the soft knots. You don't want it physically touching. Right. So normally I'll do that. And I don't know if you can see it at that angle enough if you're tight, but if you hold that there, you see tiny little bit of white above that black. Can you see that? So that's about how much gap should be in there is it? Perfect. So if those black marks were soft knots, that's what it should look like. Because it does arc a little bit. And if you actually, when you draw it back, if you took the arrow out of it, it's not straight. It's a little arc. Got it. So you're giving up a little bit of room in there. And the shorter your axle to axle, your bow is, the bigger that needs to be. This is a long axle to axle bow or today's world, a long axle to axle bow. Right. That doesn't need to be that big. It can, you can get away with, you know, a tiny gap, but like a 29 or a 28 axle to axle bow, you got to have like that much gap in there because it'll pinch. Yep. BCY 400. Okay. You won't find a lot of people that actually use this because it's not super common. This would be an old school archers tool. Oh, so I'm old school. And I use this because it's soft and I want it to be soft because if my arrow ever gets to a point that it does compress and it does touch, it'll have give. Whereas if you use any of that stuff, that's like basically braided steel cable is what it is. It'll cut your finger off. It will. That's why when you watch Dudley doing stuff, he's taping his fingers because he's using that material. And if you reef on that, it'll cut right into your finger. And there's good and bad with that. All right. So is it more durable? Yes. Have I ever worn through this in a soft knot or a peep? No. So why would I use something hard? I'm sold. I want something that's soft. Finally a good explanation. And my only, my only preface by using this is you need to wax it because the stuff that's like really, really rigid like that, when you pull into something, it'll actually bite into the material. But I also think it's damaging the string material to a degree. So I always prefer to use, oh, I figured you're like a baby smooth down there. I mean, come on. You, you are Mr. Fitness, right? There's probably not an ounce of hair on your body below your chin. There's probably hairless from here to here. Not true, but I love it. Oh my God. What are you doing? Getting my vitamin D. This video is terrible already. Since you're going to be able to stare out your back window and look at me, which kind of seems frightening. With an 80 millimeter spotter phone on there from mag view, just click hit record. But I guess that works both ways. Yeah. I'll wreck your life. I don't have the keys yet to the property. So it's not confirmed yet. We leaked it on the last video. I'm going to be neighbors with Josh sell pending. And is there a way to do a fundraiser on YouTube so I could afford this place? You live in some expensive territory, bro. Well, so that's, that's family property. So I don't think it'd sound like I'm rich or something, but no, it's been in my family since I was like 10. Yeah. And that's right where the archery guy asked me. He's like the camps at green acres, you know, the Elk Immersion experience. I'm like, he's like, where is that? And I'm like, green acres. It's it's Spokane Valley. Yeah. But it's green acres. It's technically green acres. It's there's a difference. Yeah, there is. There is Spokane Valley has rules. Green acres does not pretty clean job. You're going to wax that too. Well, I got to cut it, pray it, melt it, and then wax it. And that's the order. I need a tape. I am cutting this at four and three eighths to four and a half because of the width of the soft knot. Yeah, I'm going to go four and a half to be safe. Flare these out like as much as you possibly can at four and a half. The bigger ball you make on the end of your loop, just like that. Trying to pull hairs on me. I was going to pull a gray one out, but. No, I earned those. There's at least 17 in there from you. Keep praying, keep praying, keep praying, keep praying. There you go. That's good. Not under the heater. You waxed it already? No. Okay. You when you're doing your loop, you get your length, you flare your ends, you melt it, you cool it, then you wax it. Is this stuff? Because if you waxed it before you tried to fray it out, it won't open as much. You won't get this stuff. You're going to be educating people on it. The Elk Immersion Experience 2024. Yes. Interesting. Yeah. Start to finish. Anything that you're seeing here, you're actually going to do. Nice. Is that right? It was like four or five times. No. On the fifth try, I'm like, is that right? He's like, you got it. So. Lock her down. Probably need an invoice for the amount of texts I sent you that day. But I do think it's good for hunters to know how to do a loop in the field. It really is. I mean, if you actually broke your loop, it would be wise to have a small kit with some of that stuff in there. Because I mean, this doesn't really weigh much. And you could use that in a lot of different instances for an emergency and something else that you might need. But a little bit of loop material, you're going to probably have a lighter or a form of fire anyway in your emergency kit. Right. A little bit of serving material can't really hurt much. If you rip pants or something like that, you need to put them together. You could use it for that. But that can be done in the field with a couple of small tools. Like if you had a little Leatherman or something in your kit, that's a needle nose. You don't have to have loop pliers. And if you are doing it in the field, I don't know if anybody will remember this in this instance, but if you're going to use like standard needle nose pliers, you're never going to get it as tight. So add like an eighth of an inch to what you're making because you won't be able to compress it down to where that works. Ideally, you would do that, but you're also going to need to offset it most likely to get the windage out of it that'll work. Like I tried it on on mine and I ran out of left right windage by like a 16th of an inch after I already got a sided end. So you're saying I didn't have the offset block in the shop at the moment to flip it over. If I remember right, the AB31 is slightly larger around. Yeah. And I actually, they're not in yet, but I will be carrying doublet lenses for the most common scope sizes. I have no idea what that means. Doublet lenses are two lenses that are mounted to each other. They're clearer. Oh, okay. You can't buy a nicer lens than a doublet. Like if you go to like UltraView and buy the most expensive lens you can get, it's a doublet lens. Anybody who's shooting target shoots a doublet. Have you ever noticed how they say tournament? Depends on where they're from. Lancaster. Those people would probably say tournament. Serious question. Torque tuning. I will. Do I want to run this thing as close to? So you can torque tune your rest or your sight. Right. So this rest is designed to be torqued tuned. That's pretty slick. So I would put this at the sight picture that you want and then move your rest in and out. I'm used to it compressed. So yeah. This don't move. This is the tension. Got it. So the thickness of this dictates the tension. You can change the angle this sets at. Sure. Right. If you want to make it weaker or stiffer. Okay. As well within that. But this is old school days where you actually use tension against your arrow. I am learning today. That's cool. Yep. You're worried about it because the one thing you will get with a blade is you'll bend it. Okay. So for travel. You'll snag it on ----. Tournament to tournament. Yep. Or the other thing is you can have another one of these lower assemblies and have one for a small arrow and a big arrow. So you've tuned the whole bow and everything right with each arrow and this can be different. So rather than change out the blade, readjust everything. You can go from your big arrows to your small arrows and just take this off. So if I go to your league next winter, which I plan on and I show up with 27s, am I going to get clowned on? No, that's what they're already using. We're going to say we're starting like this. Okay. So we're going to get this. We're going to move that to where it has some resistance and I can let go of it, but I can still move it. Hold that square to where you get it to where you want it there and then tighten it. And then when you let go of it, it stays put. Doesn't move. And then this bubble, you just twist this knob here and go. That's satisfying. I can't even tell you. Well, it's just easy. So now that you've got those two set, we can set it on the actual sight rail here to figure out where your sight rails level, which we're going to take this pin off because we don't need it. This is me, a personal request. I need you to be explicit on how you get that. So there's no human air. It's tough. It's really tough. So basically you got to move it all the way into where it touches here and touches there and hold it there from this side and then tighten it down here. I like Hamsky. I love y'all, Josh. I know I need to make a different. You need to make something. I've been racking my brain of how do you make a level that hooks onto a rail when all the rails are different? Every one of them. Like one of the cool things, a bow finger. That's a new side I've got in, in the target world. Yep. They actually have their own level. That's for the rail slides right over it, put a tightness screw down and it's square tight to their rail. But because everybody changes this pitch in this angle, you can't just make it for one. You're making me feel better. I'm trying to figure out a way to do it. I really am. I know, I know. But to know it's square and that's already square. Yep. So sweet. She's tight. She's good there. That bubbles off a little bit, but the rails good with there. So that's awesome. We will, we have to move the windage unless you've got a real, like, I don't even know if that's short enough. Do you want to just pull that block? Well, I'm trying to make sure I got the right one. It's not just a block. It's the entire, we've got to take the scope head off and the windage unit and move it over here. Yeah. These are hard to get set. Shoot. Okay. Yeah. It's, it's like, they think of really great product, but they don't think about the application of actually setting any of this stuff. So we've got to move this windage. Oh, it's Amskey. It's built for war. It's always good for bubbles to where you can get at these screws. Yep. So he's moving this whole, I got to move the whole thing to where I can get at those two. And then you can use whatever wrench you want, which I don't need to use this now. So, and then since we had this moved all the way over, as far as we did, we're going to have to slide that dowel out, clamp it down and then get it set and then move it over and then move the dowel back. It's like, eh, why didn't somebody over there think about this when they did this? I don't know why. Will your tack aero weigh less than 360? Oh yeah. Total aero weight. Oh yeah. 340. Yeah. 330. I'll be in the 330, 340 range, probably somewhere in there. Okay. So we at least got that to where it's moved a little bit. We can go back and re-check our levels and it's moved a little from where we were dicking with it. And the level, gen two, got to put that back on there and make sure we didn't mess that up. I'm not doing it because I have user error. Yeah. Well, I do so. No, you do this a thousand times a day. And it's still perfect. And now that's moved to where it's nice and level. Okay. So now we have to carefully and then still have it in a position where we can check it and make sure it doesn't move when we go to tighten it down. Second access check. Now I've got to take this off again. Wow. To really tighten it down. Because I know it's not going to move now. I've got it snug. But I also don't trust those screws at all. Which one? Like number 900? Yeah. Well, Target sites usually have a lot of screws, man. Because they want a lot of adjustments. This back end. For all you Target guys watching this video, I cannot wait for Bodie Turner to graduate high school and go start doing the ASA circuit. I'll actually tune in for that. Yep. And then also shout out to whoever made it so I couldn't watch the shootout for Vegas. That was really cool. Yeah. They had a disaster. A $5 paywall. Well, and then it didn't work. Oh, even better. Yeah. Let's go back this way and give you a little bit more windage. We're close to running through paper, aren't we? Yeah. We can run through paper here in about an hour. Give me a point. Okay. So that'll give you enough windage left to right that no matter what you do, we will be able to move it. You'll definitely be able to use this without the windage. Yay. Unless we have to shimmy this thing really weird. Oh yeah. And then a little bit of skateboard tape on that one section. That's a really good tear. Okay. Well, that's a pretty ---- tear. Oh no, we got to change it. It's just, we can't do it here. Talk to the people quickly about what you got to change. We have to stop because Dan's press doesn't have the updated three inch wide bracket for a title. And we have to wheel lean tune this bow because the rest position is actually pretty good. And the tear that we're getting out of this with a point left, knock right tear means we either have to move the rest to the left or we have to move the cams to the right. And in order to do that, we have to press it and pull the axle assembly out. So, and if you look at the wheel lean, it looks like it's left pretty good amount. So it would correct it. So my arrow's going like this and we want it to go like this. Okay. So the next step is for this to go to Spokane Valley Archery. Yep. And then. And wheel lean tune it. Wheel lean tune it. Hey, do me a favor. Yeah, I'll check it. It feels heavy. Like really heavy. I mean, your cables are in the right orientation spot, but it feels heavy and it just could have been because I was trying to pull back a short drawing bow or. No. That's 74 pounds. I do not want 74 for a tarjet. Well, then we need to go to the shop and get the mods because we have 200 different modules in the store for this son of a bitch. And no, you won't sell them to you. Yes, I will. I will now. Record stop. All right, we're going to Spokane Valley. Yeah, there are the wrong mods and everything. Okay. Filled trip to Spokane Valley Archery. This has 70. Does that say 70? Yeah, it's 70. I, 75%. I don't mind that, but I would think 60 would be a little bit more fun to get to there. Yeah. It's like, God, what the? Holy crap. All right. Well, guys. I need to work out. We're going to the, we're going on a field trip. We'll catch at Spokane Valley Archery. Well, first thing we should probably do is change the, uh, modules. So it's not 75 freaking pounds. So this is every title module period. We're missing like four right about in that vicinity, but all right. So you're a 36 and you're 27. Okay. So we'll put you at an H, which is going to bring you down to here. That's this row. And then basically the world is your oyster. So they make a 70%, a 75% and an 80%. Uh, I would say 75 at the least. Cause you're, you would not be used to this. This would feel really weird. You want 60 pounds? Well, that's the, that's that one right there. The blank one. Haters. So I have a 55 pound or 65 pound, or you can try an 80%. 80% is probably more what you would feel used to, but I would probably recommend trying a 55 pound, 75%. So you can get that a world. You have 65 pounds? I do right here. How about 65 at? Yeah, I only got three of those. It's like what? $20,000 in modules looks like, oh, these are for regular switch weight mods. Those are Halon, Halon 32. Some of the older random ones, old target ones is the ones you get asked about the most anymore. Those are lift mods. There's like 200 different pegs there. No, he's actually, he loves that. Oh, he loves that though. This is a 65 pounds, 75% let off module for a title 36. And we'll probably back the limb bolt down a little bit. Hey, this is Michael. He is an aspiring professional target archer. We'll see how far that goes, but he's been shooting a title 38 for a while. And he finished 60 was a 60th of Vegas. Some top 60 at Vegas, which is pretty impressive feet in the pro class. And all we're doing is trying to increase our lean. So we'll this nice little three inch wide base. I will probably do both because that was a pretty good size tear. I ain't get done with this. I'll go jump in that skid steer and try to finish burying that trench. And then if there's a little time left, I'll film a couple of videos. So those are the middle. So that's the two and the one that sit in the middle. And we had a pretty good size tear. So I'm going to do the mid-sized ones. This one, this one. Do you remember for sure? Was it point right? One thousand percent. The knock tear was to the right. The point, it was like, okay, we're moving the cam in. But you don't have the width. So now I have the width. Yeah, that's what that box is. This is the width. Where is that on your website? You don't actually have it's on. It's in the tools. That's just a three inch base. So this platform is a half inch wider. And it replaces this whole assembly. Half inch. That's all. So you can move them wide enough because how wide this limb base is, you can't do it. Which it, it works nicer on most of them anyway. Most of them were already pretty tight to begin with. Because they've just, limb bases have just been getting wider and wider. Come on, get out. Once I found it, it fell right in. Just took me a little while to find it. It'd be better if we had a camera on your face right now. How much you're laughing. Still a little. You got a straight alignment here. You got a little hizzy for your nizzy right here. Got some longer bars with some weight on it. It's a good looking weight right there. A little knurling on there. So you just grab it and tighten it. It's got a little traction. Podium stiff bars right here on the website. Lots of different weights. Lots of different options. Buying bigger chunks of weight saves you money if you're going to buy a bunch of weight. Come in lots of different lengths. Half inch diameter, stiffest stuff on the market. Oh yeah, and I can sell and ship this to you too. How many more shots will it take for this thing?