Part 1 ft. Kim Kardashian | Khloé In Wonder Land

Hi, I am so excited from the second we decided we were gonna do this. You said it has to be juicy Like no one better see these texts or we're all canceled. I know Was there ever a moment that you didn't want something filmed when I said that whole thing? She's like you have to take this out. You look insane. I go perfect Was there ever a time you thought your reputation might not survive something? I just thought like our careers were over. I brought us up. I'm taking this right down Do you ever remember celebrities that were rude to you? Let's talk about some of the ai dating rumors Is this not insane? Does it bother you the scrutiny that you get for the way that you allow north to depress herself? She knew what she wanted since the moment she came out. You're really the first celebrity to openly stage paparazzi shots You knew where they were right so you would just go it was cool to be desperate back then I lived for it let's talk about some of the crazy conspiracies the kardashian curse I love a conspiracy I am so excited to be on your podcast. Oh, i'm so excited. I'm really excited from the second we decided we were going to do this We both but specifically you said and it has to be juicy Well, yeah, because I feel like it's obviously weird coming from you because you know all these stories, you know my whole life You know everything that you're gonna ask me, but let's just like juice it up and have a cute combo And that's what it is. It's a conversation I'm, not just going to be spitting questions at you, but like feel free to talk back with me And back to you. Oh good. I love when you talk back and i'm gonna ease you into it Okay, you know we'll do foreplay. Okay a little bit. I know how you like to get down. What's the last text you sent? Ooh Oh to to north just about Her engineer is on his way. Oh Okay, I text that right before I sat down you love the notes section in your phone I do you do you're a nose girly. You want me to open them up? Well, I just want to know what was the last note you wrote in your phone a birthday party list Oh, yes Back and forth with that today name of the most used group chat in your phone Oh the bat chat bat chat bat chat. It's you lala tracy and me and steph I think it's been going for what at least five years strong. Yeah, I think so It's been a while and it's like we will be canceled because call me on the bat phone Yep, like because like no one better see these texts or we're all canceled. I know we're all It's like a place to really let it out. Just talk about anything and everything Judgment free. Yeah. Yeah, it really is like a safe zone it's really crazy because like I know we're beyond the days of like going through people's phones and people going through our phones I feel like that just isn't a thing when you're in your 40s. Okay, right like going through a boyfriend's phone. Yeah Okay, so like but if they were smart, they wouldn't be like looking for guys in the phone They'd go straight to the the group chat Well, that's where all the girls chat but take note for people in their 20s wanting to go through someone's phone Yeah, go for their group chats go for the guys group chats go for the girl go just go for the group chat Yeah, no one is really talking in a solo session. Yeah, or like you're not really gonna find anything you want to know everything That's where you go. I learned about this. Um One of our friends last night told me about you know in Mean girls they have the burn book there's this website that's for People anonymously. It's like a do moi type of thing But it's about dating and you anonymously will be like your boyfriend sent me a dick pic And like they put it up and they expose different people, but it's all in the gay community It is the most salacious website. I was told you this. Oh my god. I wasn't gonna out him I was look I was like that is fascinating. It's just like There's a different world. It's a different world. It was fascinating. I loved What were you guys doing at the end of the table? You didn't hear that conversation. No Oh, that was amazing. I learned a lot last night the first photo in your camera roll and the last photo If you remember, oh, well the I mean the first one has to be from years and years and 15 years ago However, my first one I think is of me and bernard the dog the boxer My old dog as you know, bernard No, I had a boxer named bernard with lamar did The most recent photo in my phone for sure is a picture of beyonce with her beautiful like golden locks like this hairdo that's like so gorgeous that I Want to do my hair? Like a golden color. I didn't want it's like a honey. She's I love that honey color. Yeah Speaking of hair. What does your natural hair look like? Oh I like this question. Okay. My hair is like your length Exactly. If I blew out my hair, that's exactly what it would look like. It would be cute I wear it every time it's in a bun. That's like My hair I love extensions and all the things I think people were like really confused when like chris appleton did my hair once and it was like platinum blonde and we Slicked it back in a bun and then glued tracks over because I just didn't want my real hair that blonde getting like exposed but people were like What's happening confused but I have had some like serious hair health journeys and so I do like all the things to Make sure that it's as healthy As possible and we go through our ups and downs the red light hat. Yes every serum you could possibly imagine Oh, if you hear like the rice, what was it? The rice water you're like i'll be cooking I did this and i'm like cam you do it and then you're onions clothes everything in a shampoo But like it works, you know I'll do like the stem cell injections in my scalp like everything to make sure that It's as healthy as possible. Yeah, but you just love a beauty treatment. I do experiment do If you could only pick one beauty treatment for the rest of your life Do you have a favorite I mean botox Probably a good one or just like a really good facial by sure Yeah, I love a oh, I love a red light situation. It's a tough one that pod You have to get the longevity. I saw that I know you really really do I do want to talk about kardashian closet a little bit because I feel like we get a lot of hate for kardashian closet Too but I think you should explain the backstory and the foundation of it and why it's so important because of cc yeah, and so our cousin cc is Fashion obsessed. I know you know this but like she her dream of life was to go to a fashion show And when she finished some chemo, you know, she's been battling cancer for like 30 years And sometimes it gets really really bad. And so she can't Um, it's in her lymph nodes, so she can't Probably work as regular and she loves fashion. She would want a job in fashion So she would always ask us like what do you guys do with your stuff when you're finished wearing it? Like can I start a site and we'll start? I don't know if you remember but courtney and I and maybe you were going to open up a store before dash Called poor little rich girl We trademarked it It was going to be Consignment clothes like designer clothes before the real real before all of those like stores This was like before dash. So we've always had closets and closets full of like stuff that we wanted to purge and get rid of you know, Nice stuff that you wear once and spend a lot of money on it. So cc put together this site She now employs a team of people and has an office and they photograph everything and they ship it out And it's like a site like the real real in a small way of just our things but it's funny because people we know and our friends shop on it all the time and love it and the stuff is Great and like vintage sites have bought off of it and told me when they buy things So well, it's really a beautiful story because cc You know, I think that we all are really hard working women And I think we know that when you have something To get up and to work for you feel so much better about yourself and cc Being in chemo and radiation and all the things there were days that she couldn't work as consistently And other days she really wanted to get out and do something. And so by her having this Job, she said it really gave her a will to fight. It makes her feel good about things She gets a commission off of every sale. And so Of course we can easily give to the real real we can easily sell on a third-party site, but we do so on our own because we Want to give to cc and make cc feel good and like that She has something to do every day and it gives her something purpose And so I love that we do that and me too that talk. They just talk But they don't understand that there's so much story and history behind it Listen, like I used to take my stuff back in the day I didn't have the money. So like if I wanted to buy new things, I would have to sell things you did ebay yeah, and I used to sell everything on ebay and that's kind of how I feel like You know, we're still on budgets. We still like have things that we try to be responsible with and so like if I Sell some things and make a certain amount and I can you know buy with that. I still budget my life out and Love living like that. Let's talk about our parenting styles. Yeah Where do you think you and I are alike and where do you think we're different? I think you're really strict And I love that and you're very structured. I don't think you're strict. Actually, that's the wrong word I think you're just very scheduled and micromanaged Thank you to the moment. I agree with so I actually think you're lenient I think your kids are a little too young For you to feel what it's like when one of them wants to be extremely expressive in a different way than you would I agree with that. I don't know what teenagers are like, but don't you think north i'm trying to remember at like seven or eight? I felt like she still was very Like she knew what she wanted at that age, too She knew what she wanted since the moment she was born. She was born getting born to The song bohemian rhapsody courtney and I talk about this all the time. Kanye was djing So he put on bohemian rhapsody for the moment. She came out and isn't it? So her courtney and I like cry laughing thinking of this moment. Oh my gosh of just like I was in the room I don't remember that. Yeah, and how it's just so like Her north, you know That's such a weird random song. Yeah. Yeah. I love that song. Yeah me too. Yeah, like when I listen to it, I just like Get emosh I didn't remember that. Yeah, courtney remembers every detail her memory I didn't remember it and it's something that I would have written in the book So I asked courtney years ago like hey What was the song in all the rooms that I I like to write all the memories and just have random facts? And she's like you don't remember it was bohemian rhapsody. She's nuts. She does remember everything. Yeah And I was like, of course it was being a mom of older older kids like teenagers do you Wish you did something different when they were younger. I treat my two older kids a little bit Um, I have like stricter rules for my two little kids And so my two older kids have devices my two little kids don't it's interesting your first kid Your first two kids they're like growing up with you We're figuring it all out together and then you learn and you realize you want to maybe do things differently And and luckily I have you know Cheyenne psalm that like I could try that with and like that's really worked for us But like maybe at this age the other kids had a phone so it's like a little bit unfair But it's the rules and they don't know the difference. I'm stricter now But I don't know that saint and north had a phone at that exactly. Well They tell them well, but that they know that's their word versus no totally prove it But it's it's I wouldn't like change anything. I think like I have such a great relationship with my kids They love me. They respect me. 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I'm just not a judgmental person like that So I try not to pay attention to it But I think that no one knows unless they're in my shoes of what i'm dealing with and how we have to manage certain Things from the outside world or even close in our life that we have to go through together So I think like the one Misconception that people might have is like oh She's trying to be her bestie and lets her get away with a lot like no northy actually has a lot of rules The one area is I do let her express herself and I do let her do that I love her for that and she would do it, you know regardless she's been it's funny like people are like Oh this blue hair all of this all of a sudden or like her fake piercings that she puts up or her, you know I have pictures of her when we're in first grade pre-k where she'd come with like a fake septum ring and she has her green braids and she has pink braids and But she's always loved the colored braids in her hair Since she was little like she really is who she is and always has been that girl Unapologetically and so like I nurture her She is is homeschooled and a lot of it is Me helping her do a lot of the teachings and the things that we do, but we do a lot of realistic courses Things that she's really into math we'll give budgets and we'll go around and we'll get stuff and we'll add it all up and subtract it all and we'll She has a brand building class, you know, it's like an actual course and a curriculum Learning than fully interactive learning and so she wanted she had an idea of making hats and making jewelry and all the things She wanted to make so we made it a course and she has to do the web design and she has to do the budgeting and she has to go to the to the stores and get materials and sewing and we do like full fashion courses and she goes to in the summers like to fit in new york and goes to fashion camp, you know and loves these More interactive experiences and so I nurture her but it's a full-time job even for me and her teacher and I think people don't realize like I'm with her and the kids 24 7 and I it's like I've now added like a teacher to my role because she wants me involved in all the things And you know I took like the last six months off to be able to really do that and do her courses and get the curriculum from her teachers and be there in The room with her and it's been a lot and it's been so fun to see her Blossom and and even like her music course at school. She'd do a regular like music course and learn certain things But at home she'll do an eight hour music studio session where she's producing and writing and a part of you know I'll add her writing out all of her lyrics as a part of her You know spelling tests and we do all of the things at home that she really enjoys and are challenging and I think they would be like proud to see like how Smart she really is and how creative she really is and I can only dream That my children all find a passion and a purpose As young as she has well, I think it's really inspiring and beautiful the way that you do nurture her passions and that you are So accepting of them like she's 12 and I know she loves Producing and she's doing that now and you encourage that and I think I know on alex cooper. You talked a little bit about you and yay's Relationship and where you guys stand now and I think it's important to say you and yay have really bonded over north's Producing you guys are now in a much better place Yeah, because I think that you know I'm a really empathetic person. I mean at the end of the day, we're always family I always look at it that way no matter what's going on There are times when I have to be super protective and there are times when you know at any moment I would love That relationship and i've always talked about that the music side and the producing isn't my thing and that's her bonding thing with her dad but even just like coming up with stuff we have to communicate about how north like moves through that world and all these like Opportunities that come her way and having to filter that and like respecting his opinion on The things that go on with his kids is really important. So Yeah, I think you're so good at doing that. I think it's important for the kids You just kind of have to put all the other stuff aside. Do your kids still sleep in your room? They do I don't think there's anything wrong with that. I know you always want to like apologize for that But lala's in town and she loves to sleep in my room I have this like massive bed and everyone's like why doesn't she sleep in the guest room and saint was just like at my door Like this is not fair or i'm gonna sleep in between you guys or i'm gonna sleep on the floor Right next to him and like literally I remember kim was like I have to go he heard me saying like oh i'm going to pairs with your mom and he's like How many days I need to approve this? He needs to know my whole schedule like how many days am I gonna be gone He always like cries when I leave like calls me every time we have a life 360 or whatever That he hears your voice. Oh when I leave I make my kids this like little you know, the like recording device That's in a build-a-bear I got like the heart that like just the recorder and I leave the messages like I love you so much I'm gonna be back soon And I leave them like i'll say a prayer because he likes we say our prayers together every night So one is just like a prayer that they can play on repeat if our timing is off or something They love them and they he plays he keeps it in his pocket when he is like out And it's so cute. He's obsessed with you. It's so cute. Yeah, talk about you're obsessed with them life 360 Oh, yeah, that's what we have a life 360 app Obviously the only kids with a device like north and saint and myself saint will be checking it and he'll just be like Mom, you know you're here. When are you gonna head home? I see you're here mom Did you land I see on the app like you're just landing or are you on the plane yet? He makes me text him when I take off when I land. It's so cute. It's so cute Let's talk about the show a little bit when you look back. Do you ever watch old episodes? I don't really No, but i'm not like opposed to it Like I love that the first 20 seasons are coming back on hulu When you see old clips I love it. You love it. I love it. I was gonna say do you cringe are you like no sometimes i'm like Sometimes there's cringy moments, but like other than that It's like the best home movies like so well shot like we have so much documented. It's really So much of it over it's been like 20 years Yeah, and so much of it. I forget that we even did we were all in idaho and it was just on tv the old keeping up And random stuff was just on tv and I was like when did we ever do this? There's no recollection. I think we just filmed so much but think about Having literally every single day of your life filmed for like 15 years Yeah, and it's just there don't even want to know what's on the editing floor Who knows was there ever a moment? That you didn't want something filmed, but they filmed it and it turned out for the better I think I know a few really like the bentley fight. I don't think at the time it's funny like mom and courtney like want us like pull back a lot and i'm just like Why let it go courtney when I said? I got married in italy You she got married in italy when I said that whole thing. She's like you look like a lunatic You have to take this out. We just you look insane. I go perfect Put it on it's it's making it and I was she's like, no, no I'm telling you like sister to sister you look crazy and I was like good I love like I can really step back and look like From a producer's eye. Oh like the fight the slapping fight. Oh, yeah Mom was like this can never see the light of day She was freaking out and I was like you're not in it. So it is making the cut sisters don't hit each other I'm like, yeah, they do. Yeah, they do. Let's talk about some of the ai dating rumors. Is this not insane? It's insane. No, no, no insane. You want to know the most and craziest one that people I think thought was real Which one there is a basketball player that I think got traded to the lakers luca. There was like an fake Tweet or comment on instagram. I don't know where it came from, but it was like hi you're coming to la I want to learn from you slovakian or whatever language Who knows and then there was either I don't know if he really thought it was me and then he replied no Or if it was like a fake reply, I don't know at this point, but mine was so fake Okay, and it looks like i'm hitting on this guy. I haven't gone to a laker game since rob sent stop because of that Rob sent me not really because of that but victor wemby rob was like you're dating I think he's like 19 or 20 some 19 or 20 year old basketball player. I was like not that I know of Of him and I yeah Ai is insane. There was a photo an ai photo of me and kevin durant. Yeah And was like if there is ever A basketball player that I would date he's the one and it said all this stuff like a real quote from me with a picture and i'm like I That's absolutely just not true. And I never said that it's insane. Ai is getting out of control It's scary this quote that said I would have been a billionaire sooner if jay-z was my husband or something like I don't remember and I was like Who comes up with these fake quotes? How do you stop them? Because once you send like a cease and desist it's like all these other people have posted it But even like you said you sometimes second guess like the tweets like some you're like wait I have to oh, yeah Right, I didn't think mine was real. No, I don't think that but then you're like what is real versus What's fake like even? The ai photos or there was I think a video I sent you It was either of you or of north talking and I sent it to you and you were like that is so ai like they're so Real some of them and it's really fucked up. No, it's insane. I don't like it the dancing ones. We like though Yeah, kim will send The stupidest dancing videos and she laughs until like I am crying no streaming down your face and it's very cute But we're like, okay But last night you and kylie were dying over some of those kylie and I were laughing i'm like, please recreate Please try and she's like, I don't know if I could even do this move so funny Do you think people would be surprised that you listen to taylor swift? I think i've said it. I think people would be surprised Surprised yeah, I mean it's just I have her like some of her older songs in my Playlist i've always thought she's like a super talented great artist And do you like country music love country music? Who's your favorite country? I mean i'll always be a shania twain girly. Do you love shania? I really do and then like I love carrie underwood. I love always you did right? She just came on my playlist like wasn't it leanne rhymes lovely. Yeah, that was my song I remember being in the car on the way to arizona driving to courtney to college And I was like cds at the time. Yes cd singles So I only had the single of leanne rimes the cd book that we had to keep popping. I still have it I still have this cd book. You're really the first celebrity to openly stage paparazzi shots Talk about how When and why you started doing that? Okay, it's not like We would know where they were And so yeah, yeah, like vote for kim Yeah vote for kim was like the first that was the taste. So kim did dancing with the stars 2006 or seven something like that something like that and We would walk down robertson boulevard definitely not season seven no of Of dancing with the stars. I was like, please no, we knew like we wanted people to vote for me So I we made vote for kim t-shirts and we were going to walk down robertson So people see us like you knew where they were, right? So you would just go Like that and be desperate Totally being desperate was like a it was cool to be desperate back then it is all I wanted I lived for it like there was times I mean I said this story once where jonathan and I went We were at a restaurant and we heard these people Jonathan just like sees everything like online and was like, oh britney spears is staying at this hotel in new york So this person at dinner had this like crazy phantom rolls royce jonathan and I could hardly even get a cab, you know So we're like, oh, can we get a ride to our hotel? And the guy's like, yeah jonathan and i'm like we'll sit in the back you sit in the front So it looks like we got out with a driver. Oh my god at this hotel And we got out paparazzi everywhere waiting for britney, you know at her hotel They weren't following us at this point or who knows maybe they were but they come out and they're like kim kim kim Are you here to visit britney? Are you here and jonathan's like keep your head down and just like shut up So we go inside we go in a phone booth because we're like, we don't know anyone at this hotel We don't even know if there's like a hotel bar for us to walk in We go and like hang in the phone in the phone booth in this hotel for like 20 minutes And then we're like, all right, let's go out and then we come out and they're like kim. How was britney? How was britney and jonathan and I are like? You know, we just like walked in the took a cab I think from that point because this rolls royce person dropped us off but they weren't going to take pictures of us like getting in so we totally Scammed the system scammed the system and it was like on every cover and we thought we were killing it Oh, you guys were back. There was a time and one time jonathan was like You have got to stop smiling like victoria beckham never smiles So we'd like walk out of like intermix on robertson and he would be like victoria Victoria and i'd be like, oh get it together. Okay, and i'd like stop smiling because i'd be like hi guys You know to the to the paps and he'd be like victoria and he'd be like, oh get it together. Yeah Well, you segued this perfectly. I have a guest that's coming. Who? Welcome jonathan. No way. I'm just kidding. Oh, I was like no way I loved we should have called him. We should have he would have loved to have been here That was a big mistake on my part. That was crazy I I love jonathan. We should call him. We should call john. I think people think we don't Talk, you know Hello Hey, what are you doing? Thank you Dinner in miami. We were just talking about you We're on the pot we're doing chloe's podcast, how's jonathan and i'm like, I love john, hold on i'm calling him Do you need proof of life? I'm in miami. Actually, it's like 80 degrees out here Oh my god, just chill. I'm at like a nice dinner. It's like a brand new restaurant here in coral cables. Nice How's the podcast going? It's good. We just wanted to give you a little shout out. I said you were at my mom's 70th And yeah That was a fun night, wasn't it? That was a fun. That was probably One of the best parties in like 15 years. They don't do parties like that anymore, right? They don't know Yeah, we used to do you know when I did pr We used to do big events like that and they were like these kind of parties where like one After the next would come in And it was like the crazy mix It's like everything's so corporate Yeah sponsors. Yeah, nobody could ever pull that off unless you're like paying for your own party Nobody really does anymore. Yeah. Yeah. Well, we're not doing it again for a long time. It was really expensive Okay, we love you See you in lm call me when you're back. Bye guys. Bye. Love you. Bye. Love you. Bye Okay, jonathan and I are good. Here's the thing I had kids. Yeah, and it's really hard to maintain friendships when you have kids and you're like in it and like Jonathan's not gonna come and sit around calabasas all day. He's like always on the move Well, especially when someone else doesn't have kids so it's not like you can do playdates with your kids. Exactly Yeah, exactly. I get that and we love jonathan. 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Jennifer lopez was gonna marry ben affleck the first time And she wanted to know who was leaking stuff to the press and she gave different stories and she found out who did it No way it was like the thing to know like if you have a leap let's give either I don't know different groups a different story and then you can sort of pinpoint I will say The leak is when we were filming keeping up with the kardashians. There was leaks every single week Of all the stuff that we were filming. We were on the cover of every magazine with these crazy salacious stories Yeah, I think that it was kind of genius even though we didn't even realize that we thought that was life But that was feeding the beast and then getting us to film more things to shut it down or to this or to that And then we got to the point where we were like, okay If i'm gonna tell courtney that i'm pregnant when we were in miami, I would call our main producer and be like Can you just bring no cameras, but can you bring a like little camcorder? And film it and then we'll keep the footage the tape until we're ready to edit or until it's out there Because it took so long to edit and get you know The show up anyway, so then we started doing these like oh our delivery room Yeah, we'll film it but we'll film it on this like camera and then keep the tape until we're ready, you know So like then those things didn't leak so that I told the word name was someone just in production Wanting to I don't think it was like malicious. I think it was like Knowing that they're feeding this beast that will get us more popular that will be more popular for the show Now that I look back at it, that's a good perspective. I haven't looked at it like that, you know But it's so interesting because when we film kardashians, we'll film Everything and there's not a leak. We haven't had leaks in years. You're right, but also the group has dwindled down. Yeah, remember when north was born and you To different groups, I think this was a little bit of a miss. Oh, I sent the photo of north. Yes, but you wanted to Got it, but from what I remember and maybe i'm wrong you Sent different photos of north to different groups of people and you wanted to see which one would get Yes, yes, and one did one day tmz called me with one photo going we have a photo of north But didn't you forget i've then I forgot what group I said what pictures right so I was exactly but I did say I forgot how I handled that. I think I said that wasn't north and was like, oh, it's a generic baby picture on the internet Because it was in the hospital bed like right when she was so shady, isn't that crazy? Was there ever a time you thought your reputation might not survive something? hundreds of times there's zillions of times when I got a Divorce, but I thought my life was over life was over the dramatics or No one's gonna talk to me again. And oh, I yeah, I always get that way. I think no not about a breakup No, but just like you just it's crazy that you really have thought numerous times that the world Is over and I just thought like our careers were over. You've said it you're like I Ruined all of our careers. I was like I brought us up. Yeah taking us, right? Yeah I'm sorry guys, but better me than anyone, you know, like I've literally been so dramatic after my 72-day wedding and I find that like so interesting that like The media kind of like built it up like they were so kind to me they were so great and then that happened and it was like You know a fraud and this is fake and they love to build you up and tear you down And I was just like wait, I wouldn't do that or like that's the name of the game really thought and you know That's the name of the game. Do you ever remember celebrities that were rude to you at the beginning? and now they like kiss your ass and do you Treat them differently. Are you just like? I remember honestly, I don't even think we were like invited to anything with any major celebrities for a long time So I don't think we were ever put in that position I just remember so many people being so kind Oh, I love and so welcoming and even if it was like a different genre of something that like we were in I think everyone was like really kind and gracious. I love that like maybe it was like a time that like Someone didn't want us at a party You know or something or maybe we weren't invited. I don't know. I love that. I love that. Those are your memories. Yeah so I know one Story that really bothered you and gratefully. So Was the elephant birkin drama? Yeah, and even ellen degeneres reached out to you text me Well, you know what? She always has like no matter what it is if there's like a an issue She's always been you know She is the reason why I went to like full faux fur and like I have my vintage furs And I like completely toned down a lot of things And it was her approach and the way that she communicated with me about it And so she wrote me and was like, hey, I see this story with this elephant birkin Like what is this? That was a bag that is fake that we bought for extra props you know, I brought a lot of my bags in to film all's fair as accessories, but then We just got a bunch of other ones that we would have and leave like On set that we can like leave there and grab if we ever needed one for a specific outfit And I was wearing gray and it was a gray one if you look at it I actually have pictures of it. The hardware is upside down So it's like an actual like full fake one even like everything about the texture is like not whatever But what I was so annoyed with myself about is just that like that message that the elephant birkin was okay Because like people didn't know if it was real or fake so even just like putting that out there like I wish I was a little bit smarter on that and did made a Better choice on that so I could see that and I appreciate that. Yeah, and i'm sure ellen does too Yeah, do you did you tell ellen it was fake? Of course I was like the bag is fake But like it's just also like the stories and the headlines and all of that that like follow it With them not knowing what it is so You know, I don't blame that story or for the outrage of that story. I really don't I just I get that Certain organizations approach to things. It's so yeah Just oh, it's fully it's the approach. That's why like ellen's approach was so great, right? She's You know It just struck me like how she really took the time Yeah to communicate certain things to me all about approach in my book. Yeah being that it bothered you so badly why don't you go out and Respond and set the record straight. I think That came at a time when there was a lot of other all's fair criticism and I was like overwhelmed I'm a firm believer of like addressing something head-on and quickly you know whether it's like naming kimono and then changing it to skims and acting quickly and like I hear you and like Sometimes I wish I did act more quickly, but like my thought process Also is like same thing why didn't I shut down all those like ai rumors about You know the laker player and you know katie and like all these things Fake tweets and pictures. It's like sometimes i'm like, oh i'm not going to give it attention because I can't just Sit there all day and shut everything down, you know, and then well sometimes I get annoyed enough and i'm like guys Like why aren't we like sometimes you just have to give a statement if something's totally It just but some are so I get that and some are You can shut down a few and then if you don't shut down one people be like, oh she didn't shut that down So it must be real. Yeah, but it's not yeah, and I think you're right You can't shut down every last rumor and but we do talk about it, you know We do have a chat about it and it's like what are we going to do about this? How are we going to get you know around this and what are we going to you know? We are cautious of everything that's going on We really are and sometimes we're like we're not giving it energy or we're gonna have to give this this this and this energy Right, and then sometimes you're get annoyed like why didn't I give that energy? Oh, I think it's cooler that you don't yeah But then sometimes I get pushed to the limit and i'm like you better shut that we i'll tweet this myself Yeah, you know and there's just some random things that like take me to the edge that I It could be the most random thing where i'm just like I have to speak up What is the craziest rumor you think you've ever heard about yourself? Hmm. I don't know I really don't like there's just been so many. I can't keep up that it's like I know there's so many random video of you and Yay on jet skis That is fake Well, that's not us. Duh. We're gonna show the clip obviously when we leave people think that's us It doesn't look like us. I don't think it's no if we had a major That's not jet ski accident. It doesn't look like you in this latest That's why i'm like, I don't even understand how some rumors get started or go viral. It's really strange to me. It's so strange. I mean Speaking of ai I think there was even like a fake Tweet of kanye's saying that like oh kim is like in the bathroom like having diarrhea And i'm like what do people think this stuff is real like that never crazy Okay, let's get to the tea What tea I wanted you to spill there's a few iconic stories that I think the world needs to hear about Oh my god