RONOH ON DEPRESSION, FAME & TOXIC FRIENDSHIP! HOW I ROSE AGAIN AFTER FALLING

Therefore, Sarah is not Ronald. Desirable and inkuo, I am sending you a message to let you know that I am ready for the meeting. Taliat 21-23, the month of the year. For the launch of the new product. That's what I was afraid of. Halimamzao Sule, Operator They are not yet ready. I depend. What's up? And by the way, AE always stands for amazing, and of course, it's another episode fully and proudly sponsored by Bed Palace KE. They have the best furniture Kitaji, Vitanda, VT, Meza's office. Make sure you reach out to them. Details are on your screen. Then he said, "Hey, you've been used" to the presenter Ali, thank you for your support. Anyways, today I'm going to I'm doing an interview that I've always wanted to do. Uh, I've actually shown her that I DM'ed her two years ago, August 1st, August 2021, and I'm Really excited to have a conversation with the one and only Rono Chebet. Hey, Thank you for having me, Ali. I'm so happy, by the way. Uh, yes. How are you? What about you? I'm doing okay. I'm happy, excited for today. Yeah. Well, that's Really great, and I'm excited as well, and I really like, you know, us to Start this conversation, you know, with where it all began. I remember. coming across your video back during the COVID times and was like, this is mad talent. This is crazy. This cracks me up. This makes my day. How did it All start? Uh, during high school in 2019, I started making videos. I think I was among the first people in Kenya to start making videos. Um, and then during COVID is when I became, you know, a bit consistent, and then Ronald started. Yeah, did you think this would blow up like this? No way. Even when people found me funny, I'd think, why? I'm just sharing stories, that's all. Then people find me interesting. I said, okay, so have you always been funny? growing up telling stories to people because it looks like that's what you're supposed to do were doing, you know, giving us different reactions to different things that were happening in life. Well, I used to charge people ten bob back then. Primary. No way. Yeah, for stories. I used to go cram movies. You tell me the A movie you want me to go watch is Kamani Romance. Mm hmm. And then I'll come with you. Yeah, that's how I was making money in elementary school, but then in high school I was a a really good storyteller, so during break time, I would just sit around people and tell them stories, and I realized, why don't I record this thing? And yeah. What's your reaction when you realize that, you know, the videos that I'm doing, they're going viral. Um, okay. At first I wasn't surprised. because of high school there was that impact of people telling me, like, wow, You're a good storyteller. But I was surprised that the whole other like outside the school area or people liked it, and I was like, okay, I can kind of cross borders. I can even make people who are 30, 24, and 25 laugh. So yeah, that was when I think I started taking it seriously, when it blew up outside of high school. Tell us about the things you were doing the time you realized that This is something. How are you uploading your videos? Was it daily? Was it weekly? How was your consistency? I've never changed my consistency. I I'm justITES, I'm very impulsive. It's just, I shoot it and I post. I shoot and post. Yeah. You don't, you weren't planning like I plan, which let's Say it's corporate or it's YouTube. Those ones I have to plan, but when it comes To content and reaction, I just write it down or think of something and write it. down and immediately if I have space, I'll do it. And one interesting thing I I'd really love to know, you know, just before we get into, you know, your The story is, how long did it take for you, you know, to make your first, you know, Check with content creation? Oh, that was in 20—I'll never forget 2020. I think the At the beginning of 2020 is when I think I had three, four corporates and I reached, That was my first million, and I was like, wow, I can actually make good money with this. this thing. And I was even surprised that they were offering so much money. I thought It was normally lower. Um, so I got a bit of exposure from, you know, agencies. Telling me like this, you can even get more. And I was like, wow. So yeah, that's it. was roughly. Yeah. So you did the content. Uh, I really love it when we go through the the journey you went through from content creation to being on the radio, and then stepping away You know, just take us through the journey. How was the, uh, the first call? that you have to get to know that you're going to get to the radio or how was it like You? So the numbers online were obviously good. And that naturally drew attention. This was like some producers who thought I would be good at data due to the the nature of storytelling and my reactions to people. And so, at that time, I was such a yes person, even without knowing my purpose, I was so young, I just wanted to do things and be everywhere. So when they gave me the opportunity to be on Radio, I said, why not? And I, I rushed in without even thinking if it's something I would enjoy. Um, and let's say a couple of months, years down the line line, I began to notice a change in my, in let's say my preferences, even my passions. I realized maybe I'm doing this for people. I feel like I'm doing it for them. a radio for people, or it could be a good idea. You know, when something just looks Good on paper, but doesn't feel right in the heart. That was all it was. I just thought I was good at it, but I wasn't truly happy in it. So, and also I I didn't even know what I wanted to do, man. I just knew I was good at talking. So I decided to quit radio. And then I found myself back in radio again, because Everyone made me feel like it was a mistake. So during my young age, I could There was a lot of chaos. It was up and down. I never really settled in. anything. I was moving from manager to manager, friend to friend, more because I would listen to others more than to myself. I felt they had the answers more than I did. And especially if that person was someone close to me, like someone in my family, I always thought they knew better, or because they've known me, They're right. But so I jumped around a lot between passions and things, and I started things and stopped and started. So I ended up being in a little bit of a depression in the sense that a lot of things were happening to me. And also, I I can't deny that I made some mistakes, because I was young and also human. But I spiraled, and I drank a lot. I did a lot of drugs to cope. Mainly because that's all I knew. I wouldn't say who specifically influenced me, but The person I looked up to at the time was really into it. And the people I looked up to were into it and they could function, but I couldn't function. I would just burn bridges and stuff. So it's only until recently that I reclaimed My life, and I feel like I'm on a better foundational journey. I kind of resonate with what you're saying—that, you know, sometimes you feel like you don't have answers to things. And for me, it happens because of self doubt. Like you're always saying, "Is it really going to work?" But I think if Someone told me it's going to work; they're giving me more confidence. I I don't know if it was the same for you. When you say people are telling you it's going to work, what do you mean? For example, you want to do something, but you have doubts, you know, But if someone tells you it's the right thing, you end up feeling like they must be right. Oh, for sure. For sure. I think I did, I looked for validation a lot, especially used to think that because they were older, they knew, and I didn't really have a support system. You know, when you have people who guide You and they know you and they know what's going on, and they've even gone to school. for what they can, like your managers have gone to school or something. I didn't have that. So I took it from the people I believed were older. And what what happened was I was just looking at how they could modify my potential rather than how I am seeing my potential. So the self-doubt came from I've messed up so many times. What's different this time? Or have I failed again? Do it this many times. What is different this time? And then of course, You know, like the self backed up, not the self backed up by peopleposal Talking badly online, you know, cyberbullying—it's just confirmed. to me, like, ah, I should just give up now. There's no need to try. Yeah. Do you Ever regret, you know, going into radio? Do you ever regret sitting on that mic? And just doing what you know, the things people made you believe you're good at? I I don't think so. It shaped me in many ways. I was exposed to so many things at a young age. At the time, I think I was the youngest on air. And I learned so much about professionalism, signing contracts, you know, just having a bank account, you know, I had to have one now that I was, you know, employed even though I knew so much at a young age, which was awesome. But again, on the drawback, I didn't consider it. I didn't think it through. And it wasn't a passion. So I was basically forcing myself to do it, which wasn't pleasant. And I guess people would say, you know, it's still a job, you should be grateful. But I didn't want to do it. And I think I just left it for the people who might have wanted to. Love being there and won that position. So yeah, so most of the time when things are going well for us, I mean, you're having gigs, you're landing deals, you're doing events, and you're making it. And people I really look up to you. And they're like, I want to be like him. I want to be like her. But then all of a sudden, they feel like, why are you telling us that you're depressed? You have it all. It looks like your life is perfect. It looks like you're happy. are doing crazy things that we would have wished to do at your age. Would you say It's the same thing you know, people, you know, the same kind of energy why are you telling us that you're depressed? We're looking at your life, and it looks so perfect. And I think that's exactly where I'll look at it from. You're just looking at What you can see. And we just talked off camera—we were talking about Avicii. And, like, sometimes people have everything you want. And you're Wondering why you're depressed? I mean, you're rich, you know, there's so much that happens to a human beyond what they have and acquire. And I think we should we all stop marginalizing it in the sense that if someone has money, they're fine? Yes, they could be financially stable, or they could have those opportunities. But Who are they mentally? Who are they emotionally? What are their experiences? the traumas they've been through? You know, so I think that's a bit ignorant to believe that because you acquire what most people want, you, you know, you You shouldn't complain, or you shouldn't be sad. Yeah, but I've learned to be. grateful, completely grateful for the opportunities I've had, mostly because I lost some, and just to be grateful, because you never know what, how others see it could be precious to them, and you're narrowing it down. So yeah, That's crazy. But also talking about depression, we really love to know, did ever know that you were depressed when you were depressed? Or was there a a moment, you know, of, you know, you realizing that I think I'm depressed and I need help. Oh, it was bad because it was silent. It started out silent. And I don't think I Addressed it when it was creeping in, before the alcoholism became a problem. And I mean, it was really bad. I had to go to rehab because I couldn't function. As a normal person, I was going cheaper and cheaper into the bottle. terms of like the quality of what I was drinking. At times, you know those sachets for like a sock? Yeah, I'd sit with guys at the Jamba base. And because I didn't, I still really don't like attention to this day. I don't like the hype of oh, you know, Ali, oh my God. No, I really like to experience people as they are. And I didn't really understand that at the time. It was yeah, yeah, Yeah. So I was going to places where I wouldn't be, you know, pressured or, you know, stressed. know, even more so when judged. Yeah, so when it got to the point where the alcoholism It was tricky. And I went to rehab. I remember my first time. The second time. I put it, I relapsed and put it back on again and realized it's bigger. It was something I've been ignoring for so long, you know, sweeping it under the rug, just being silent. Someone does something to me, I'm betrayed by friends. It's, People are saying this on the internet; I'm brushing it under the rug. By the When it came out, I didn't know who I was. So I'm grateful that I'm in a better positioned now to handle life itself right this moment. Yeah, let's talk about it. friendship. I mean, uh, there are many different ways that you can view it, you know, friendship. And I watched one of your interviews, and something that It came out like, you've had fake friends in your life. You've had People betray you in your life, and your perspective on friendship changes really. changed, you know, your perspective on the people you bring into your life Life has truly changed. Enlighten us about what it's like now. I was so naive. So naive. I can't explain naivety. I thought everyone loved you and wanted The best for you. And when you're rising, just as everyone's duty is to hold it up so that they and I trusted a lot of people. That's why I went wrong. I was, What's the word? Black-and-gray, black-and-white thinking instead of gray. thinking. Uh, when these possibilities arise of, you know, being mistrusted or someone lying, or, you know, I just ignored all of that because I thought people were nice. So from experiences with friendships, betrayal, and, you know, being too open. Also, I realized you have to be discreet. You have to be discreet. You know, you can't Just be open and real. Guys don't like that. Yeah, they want mysterious, you know. Know? So right now I'm enjoying my solitude. I used to have a problem with being alone. So I'm enjoying solitude. I'm also very selective. I have whom I trust, whom I allow in. Also who I am and what I say and how do I say this? The places I'm in, you know, you can also expose yourself to certain things there wrong places. So very just being cautious and intentional, and I think soberness in the sense that I'm not just anywhere at any time. Yeah. Yeah. That's it. Crazy. Uh, looking at that, do you still have friends you used to hang out with? with those times that right now you're close to, or did you like, you know, just Say, you know, people like that, I don't want them, I don't want them around me. Life and you cut it off. I got a lot of people off. I think even some family. members, not that because even they were wrong, just for clarity. I think for clarity, and um, I still do talk to some people from my past, but it's very much Acquaintances, and some of them don't even know that I know you did me wrong. As in a, I'm at least graceful with the distance. So right now you would say You don't have many friends, very few—just one or two, one or two. Family. Okay. Now one of the things that we really also want to talk about is when you, you sink into depression, how easy was it? How tough was it? You Know, coming out—what was the journey like? I was afraid to come out of it because of how deep I had gone. Um, I knew it. It was a lot of work. I had to confront many truths, but um, I remember Looking in the mirror the second time I was in rehab, I was crying. I promise you, I never want to be in this position again. Making a promise to myself. I never want to see you like this again. I'll never put you in this position again. And from that day on, just as I did, I kept That promise I made to myself, and I've never betrayed myself again. How I did. Um, I do my best to return to myself as much as I can. Um, yeah, that's what. I was saying. Yeah. You might be betrayed by people. You might go through tough situations in life. Do you believe the saying that says that it It doesn't matter what you're going through; it's entirely up to you to get out of it. Yes. Oh yes. Because that fear of dealing with it matched up to nothing at all. who I am today. Like I hit my gym goals. I hit my financial goals. I restored things to myself that I never thought I could. So yeah, it's scary to face. It's scary to face, but the outcome was far beyond what I expected. I'm in such a A better place than I ever thought I'd be. So yeah. One of the things that probably also drove you into depression was your body. shaming. And there's a time, there are a couple of instances when you used to address it on comments, perhaps replying to someone or perhaps addressing them through a video. Uh, uh, when, when, when you, when you are going through all that, did you ever feel like people don't understand you? Maybe people are judging you too harshly. Have you ever Feel like, why, why me? You know, like there are so many people in the industry. probably people who are overweight, probably people like me. Have you ever felt like all Was the negative energy being drawn? I feel like people constantly emit negative energy no matter who you are, but I feel like They couldn't come from my skill, and they couldn't come. They will, you know, you. could be like, you're not even all that, but I was kind of all that. But, um, in the sense of the gift, and they felt like that was the only way to reach me because it was an insecurity. I feel like they want to poke you so that you can be weak in a certain sense, but I am grateful that they did because I became healthy, and I actually did take care of my health, um, and, uh, made changes, but How they did it wasn't the best way, I'd say. Um, but I can't really blame them. People, you know, I don't know what to say. I can never control how people see me. me. And, you know, generally speaking, no matter what size you are, people will People will judge you for being skinny, people will judge you for being tall, short. People will judge you based on how they expect you to look. And it isn't my job. to understand them. I simply decided to take what was criticism, the positive one, like at the gym. And I took the positive one and I, you know, changed my life. So right now you look great. You're in great shape. And, uh, I want Knowing Jim is tough. I can tell you, I've tried, I've tried, I've tried a a couple of times. Uh, I've failed miserably. I've had months of consistency, like for three months, and I'm getting back into shape, and you know, I'm Happy. And when I'm happy, I eat fries, and you know, I'm back to feeling good. The journey for you? It's like that. I think for everyone, I swear I've started so many times, even I've stopped right now. I think it's such a hard thing to maneuver because it requires a lot of discipline. Um, so what I can saying it's being easy on yourself, like being easy on yourself, but knowing what You need to do, be easy on yourself, don't relax, be easy on yourself, but still Show up, I guess. Yeah. Did you go through a change in diet? Did you go through, did you have like a personal trainer and how long exactly would you How long did it take for Ronald to become the way she is now? Hey, so I wasn't, I I wasn't even trying to lose weight. I was on a mental break season. I wanted to Break myself mentally. I wanted to take myself to the places I was afraid of. of. And so that was my goal. It was not really to look good, but it came with I was running at around 4 a.m., commissioning kilometers. I was on crazy diets. I was fasting for several days, intermittent fasting. I was basically living on smoothies. dinner. I was doing pushups and pushing myself. I remember, like, I could never do a push-up ever since I was born. And I was like, why can't I do a push-up? I'm going to go to the gym and do upper body until I can do a pushup, until I can do 10. And I did that. I was just trying to crack myself, you know, and it's helped. me in so many ways to stop giving up so easily, you know, to commit and be disciplined to stuff. So yeah. So it comes with a whole mental discipline in different perspectives on life, in different aspects of life. Like once you overcome the gym, someone told me, you know, Ali, if you want to be in the best shape, you don't just have to have it as the main thing you want to do, but let it come as the foundation. So is it true that if you hit the gym and conquer, you Know it, conquer it, be fit—will you be fit in every aspect of your life? Exactly that. I can't put it any other way, because if you can convince yourself to start moving your body at 4 a.m., 5 a.m., what can't you do? What can't You do? You know, you've convinced just muscle to lift weights. What life problem will you have? And you'll be like, no, I can't, you know, like, nah, I can't bring it, you know? So it fixes every other aspect of your life in one go. sense or another. How supportive would you say your family probably was during this time you're referring to? trying to come, you know, to get out of depression and you're trying to get In the best shape? Would you say some friends and family played a role? Um, for sure. Yeah, I would. I really did feel alone though. I won't lie. But I designed it that way. I pushed people away to be alone and push. myself. But I had 1, 2, 3 people clapping for me, and even my followers and My supporters, bro, like my fans were just the people who genuinely love me. and would even send private messages, consistently saying, "I'm behind you, I support you." And that was really nice. Yeah. But mostly I was kind of alone. Yeah. Being alone is extremely dangerous because sometimes you can become your best self. of yourself. Sometimes you can be the worst version of yourself. I mean, you're alone. No one is judging you. No one is looking at you. You're just alone. Do Have you ever regretted being that side, uh, bringing out that side of you that, you know, I'm alone and I want to do this alone. Do you ever feel like if you have had a group of people, a community, you know, just supporting you Maybe it will. It would have been better, for sure. Um, in a way, I feel like I was protecting myself from becoming happy. It would have been good to have people I could rely on, people I could lean on, but I wanted to get to know myself away from the noise. I was so used to listening to other people and believing Them. So I was like, well, what do I think? Who am I when no one's looking? So yeah. You've also lost a couple of friends, as you said. And I mean, because they did. some things you didn't expect. Are there friends you wish Like, you know, I just wish we were bros just like before. I just wish you never betrayed me. I wish we could be friends the way we are. Are there people like You would say that, you know, this person, I loved them so much. I I just wish they were in my life. I think it was a month or three months ago. Yes. But now everything happened just as it should have. And our journey together came to an end, and I am grateful. For the memories and the joy. But now I must continue alone, or with whom? Join me now. Yeah. Off camera, we also discussed celebrities who rise and when they fall. In a way, because of depression, because of one, two, three things, it's really It's hard for them to come back, you know, to establish a foundation and rise again. How are you? to do it? Because I mean, there's a time I would really go online and say that I I can't see Ronald; I was saying, you know, like Ronald is somehow silent. Ronald isn't giving us what she used to give us. And right now I get to Instagram, I get to take talk on my FYP and I'm seeing Ronald, you know, how did You managed to do it? Like, that's insane. And I said it, I think it's the grace of God. And I feel like He gave me a second chance. chances, a second chance rather, because there's no amount of mistakes that can separate us from the love of God. And even I was thinking, I don't know if I'll ever recover, but he is gracious and the one who gives. So I still use the gift That he's given me to continue with. So yeah, yeah. That's crazy. There was a time when we saw a different side of Ronald, you know. When you came back and you're like, you know, all of you, I'm going to expose you for the things you've done to me. One, two, three people and the whole The internet went crazy, you know, and then for some reason you didn't do it. Reason. You just stayed silent. What was that reason? So, um, I think, uh, At that moment, I wanted to justify a lot of what I had been through. I feel like I let a lot Slid a lot, slid a lot because I stayed silent about my suffering. I was just making people laugh and stay silent about my pain. Um, and that day I was like, You had to know, you had to know I was going to do it. And it wasn't me. I don't think so. It's me. I didn't get satisfaction from it. It actually just made me feel worse. Uh, so I realized it's not worth my energy. It's just giving, it's just Releasing negative energy, which will come back. So I let it go. Yeah. There are moments when, while creating content, you just know—when people are always Saying that, you know, you're just copying Elsa, you're not better than her. You know, The comparison shot we discussed—did it ever reach you? Like, why are people telling me this? And one question I'd also really love to know, did you do it before her? Did she take it, would you, do you still feel like she took the light that you deserved? I honestly believe that in whatever field you are in, people will always compare you. So comparison is nothing new. But what in this specific The situation was that people would tell me she was copying me, and I should be mad. about it. Or, you know, like you should do something about it. Like this is your Light. I'm like, I'm Rono. I will never, ever stop being Rono. Like for me, and I'm Still, if I, okay. If that's how it is, then I'm still on top, you know what I mean? What I'm trying to say is that I don't think anyone can take anything from what is, like, no one can be another Ali. Ali has specific Ali traits and comparison is a waste of time because then you don't get to experience Elsa as she truly is She is. You're just experiencing her through a lens between us. You don't get to. experience Ali as he truly is. And I think it diminishes people. And for, at some I felt like it was just a way to kill my joy or to make me fearful of not climb because people would be afraid of my potential, as usual. And I'm here to Shake the ground as usual. But yeah, um, I'm here to stay. Wow. Yeah. The negative Comments back then, uh, plus other things and other factors really brought you down with depression. But right now, how are you coping with them? Because I'm sure They're still there. I'm not dealing with anyone I don't want to deal with. With me. I'm chilling with my cats. Actually, my cat, that one, died. But, uh, Yeah, I love cats. They're just amazing. But I'm just chilling. I'm not dealing with it. Anyone. I'm making my money and staying humble as much as I can with my one, two friends. Yeah. One thing that you wish, or what are some of the things that you wished that you had known back then when you were starting that you're like, if I I knew this one, two, three, I'm telling you, I'd be in a different place. Stop listening to people. That's one. And trust yourself. Oh my God. Trust. so much on the right path. Um, and finally you're good enough. You're good enough, and you're ready. That's what I'd say. Many celebrities are in a a situation where, you know, people recognize them. Uh, they have money, they have Fame. Um, they have what they want. They are far removed from their true purpose. Well, how would you say, uh, is the right way to find your purpose? And what did it? What did it take for you to realize what your purpose was? I think my purpose came with how things turned out, and I realized maybe I'm chasing the wrong one things, because when I finally acquired the things I was insecure about, I realized I don't need them, like, you know, friends and, um, success, you You know, and you know, I didn't need it. I just had to grow into it. I had to grow into my purpose, which was helping people, um, being a voice for the generation. You know, I'm very much into comedy, um, what's the word teaching, in a sense, is educational, and it's still humorous, and it's also Like, um, moral. I try to keep people moral a little. I'm like, don't do the Don't go there. You know, and that's what it is. I feel like I'm being a voice. of the generation and it's much more than that, and also helping people, you know Um, they think that because I'm depressed, I'll never be able to get back on my feet since I'm overweight. I can never lose weight or because I've been through cyberbullying, like I'm going to die. No, I'm here. I'm proof that you can rise up from anything. mistake you've made and still pursue the things you want in life. So yeah, I Guess what, what did you tell someone out there, and you know, they're I'm just making it up, and they really don't know what their purpose is. Like, is there a way to find your purpose? I don't think there's really a The correct way to find your purpose, either along the way or when you know, do not Second-guess it. That's exactly what another thing I felt like I knew but doubted. myself. Once you feel it and know it, even if you have to perform for your Parents, just so you can keep on your dream, do it. Um, and another thing It's like, it also takes time. People aren't really like that; they don't know it. the moment they are born. It takes time. So expose yourself to environments, You know, if it's media, take yourself to those positions and Expose yourself. If you find happiness there and find fulfillment, pursue it. Yeah, that's crazy. And that's great. But one thing I also love about personally purpose is the fact that you do not have to conform yourself to a specific purpose. Purposes do change. People do outgrow purposes. You can, you can do something knowing that this is your purpose. And then you reach a point that you feel like, I think I've already done a lot and I think I need something bigger purpose. I need a bigger challenge. So if you're watching these and you really without a purpose, you're really trying so hard to find one. You might be Leaving it without even realizing it. So just hold on. Everything will be alright. Rono, I think I love one huge thing—I love that which is actually outstanding. the talent, because the Rono we are seeing right now is the same Rono that We saw years ago, just that they've been through different things, you know, They've been transformed. What is one thing that just made you say, "You"? Know what, I'm not giving up. You're on the verge of giving up, but there's Just one thing that made you say, you know what, you told me that you looked look at yourself in the mirror and you told yourself, I'm going to do this. I'm I'm going to do this. I'm going to do this. Is there something, is there a In your circumstances, is there someone who just made you not give up on yourself? I think it was the thought of the death of potential. I never wanted to live with myself and say I never tried. I never wanted to say I had an opportunity and I threw it away. I was like, I'm not a quitter. I've never been a quitter. I'm Competitive as hell, man. I actually love competition. And so I was like, How can I, the one thing I love, be doing this to myself? Why? Like stand up. And try to see how far you can go, then we can give up afterward. So that was it. Yeah. And yeah, and I think the support from people was so immense. I think a lot of people are like, I'm not going to let your story die. I'm not I'm not going to let your story die. Just like you make me happy. So please, please, you Know, so there are the fans as well. Yeah. If you had fans, you know, coming to your DMs, just telling you, you know, your story You have transformed me. Your story has inspired me. Your story has changed me. I was on the verge of giving up. I don't know if you've ever been through such moments. So many, even alcohol-related problems. I've had men, men who have ever reached Come to me and said they have an alcohol problem and they just don't want to Face it. And that was such a shock to me because I'm used to women. But even women who struggle with weight always reach out, and they're like, how Did you do it? You know, so there's that. And I'm grateful positional. I am truly grateful to be a guide. Yes. Did you plan to do a mentorship thing, or are you doing it currently? I'm working on it. I'm working on it. But I did release a diet plan to help people, like. But I'm working toward something bigger. So stay tuned. Yeah, amazing. What is Rono currently doing? You know, we used to see you on the radio besides the content. Are you working on things? Are you doing things you'd love to share? I am laying the foundations for a couple of projects. And until then, I'm just creating content. And I have a purpose in science. Yeah, and I'm in a science field. So I don't know what I'm going to do there. Are you studying? Yeah, yeah, I am. Yeah, yeah. Where are you studying? Public health. Which university? Daystar. Yeah, that's crazy. Which year is it now? My fourth year, actually my third. Yeah. How is it? How is it going so far? I mean, going back to school is crazy. It's crazy. They never warn me. American guys don't say anything. They don't say anything. So, yeah, school is a bit tricky. But again, working on some projects and I'm hoping for the best. What would you say is the ultimate goal, you know, of getting into science? Damn, damn, damn, damn. Perhaps in the biomedical field. I kind of see, yeah, yeah, I kind of do. But I know it will take a lot of my time. Still thinking about it. Is this something you've always wanted to do? I've always loved science. I've always been a science person. So, yeah, this is a side of you we're getting to learn right now. Yeah, biology was like my first love. So there's that. And I hope I can make a difference in people's lives in that other way. Yeah, you've got a lot of depression in your life. Someone might think right now, you know, That's the biggest thing she's ever thought of. And it's perfect. Her life is perfect right now. What would you say to that person? Bado, I don't think your life will ever be perfect. What I believe is that whatever and wherever we are in life is beautiful and nice. And not that last year you should have been here or next year. Right where you are right now is beautiful. And it's still yet to become even more beautiful. What I'm experiencing right now is a foundation for something great. I really do see great things. And I'm currently underground, let's say, laying that foundation. Yes, many people tend not to appreciate life because basically they think that other people have better. But they tell us that once you go to prison, Once you go to rehab, my friend, you're going to appreciate life. At that moment, did you truly appreciate life? Were you like, I was okay? I respected freedom. I don't think people understand how amazing freedom is. You're in Nairobi. Yes, you are seeing the road. Yes, but you're locked up and there's not much you can do. What I can tell people is not to look at someone else's life and think it's better. Love your life, love your family, love your hands, the way you walk. I love you because no one else will. The way you can love yourself and not look left or right, and still be able to admire. I don't think there's anything wrong with envying and admiring. It's normal. It means you can get what you want. But don't fixate on someone else's life. Just as people have different upbringings stemming from diverse backgrounds, different even financial statuses. You're competing with someone who has a trust fund. What are you going to do about it? What? Yeah. Would you say there's a moment when you felt like, no matter what, I've got it all? and people are going through it worse than me, You know when you're in rehab? I don't think I've ever felt like I had it all. People are the ones who've always told me I had it all. That mindset came from people, and I blame you now because I think my head is full. But what can I say? I knew it was going to take time. I didn't put any pressure on myself at all. I didn't say, you know, now you're behind everyone else. Oh, no, I just meant give yourself time to be consistent in everything you do. genuinely and be intentional genuinely and Just wait it out—if it works out, that's great; if it doesn't, you did your best, and that's the mindset. I went with it, and before I knew it, corporate came back, and at least I was on par. And I'm still trying to be better than I could ever imagine So yeah, I've actually been a huge fan on YouTube. I loved your videos, you know. And at some point I felt like the drone of pause, the drone of break for YouTube, you know. How is it going so far with you now providing us with funding content on YouTube, as I mentioned projects are in the works Since I didn't want to publish mediocre content either, I guess I was just tired of shooting videos on my phone. And also posting the same content, so I wanted to go back and find out how I can Restructure the content to look better—start new projects with higher quality. That's precisely why I took a break. Otherwise, it's not that I'm inconsistent, guys. I'm just preparing something good. Yeah. Looking back now You would say the things you didn't know you knew right now. What would you tell The first Rono to take a phone to shoot What would you say to the Rono who was feeling down? What did you tell the Rono who was in rehab? What would you have told her right now if you had the chance to sit down with her? Thank you for changing my life Thank you for being courageous. Yeah Because the first girl who picked up a camera changed my life I'm really at a point where I'm struggling financially, and it's because of her—like, that time. You know I could have gone to school and toiled and labored, but she had the courage to do so, and now I never Struggle that much compared to if I hadn't done it Thank you for being courageous. Yeah That's crazy. I mean the way you're viewing life right now and the way We view life or the way others perceive life I think being grateful for the things you've gone through, being grateful for the hardships I mean, that's mind-blowing. What did you just say that you're actually so grateful for? That you wouldn't want to lose it Life Life is so precious, health. I think health is so underrated. I I am so grateful for the gift of life and breath. health Yeah People would want other things because I saw what alcohol did to me and I guess I was close to losing my life in a health-related way. God restored it to me in a way that I will never, ever forget. and it's precious because it can leave, and I've seen people my age leave, and even younger ones leave, and Promising lives go, and yet you're still here. So without life, I don't have Renault, you know what I mean? So I'd say life is everything—do you feel that way? The things you went through during that time somehow strengthened you. The relationship between you and God, and would you say that before then it was somewhat weaker? I Love God, I've only ever had I always have but I feel like those low moments really brought me closer to him and Because of him, he gave me life. So I'm here and He is the most A gracious person I've ever met, and it doesn't matter what you've done. It doesn't matter if he appears to use anyone and everyone. and I'm also grateful to him, though. Yeah, amazing. I mean, this is one crazy conversation, and if you've learned something from Ronald Isn't it just about being grateful for life, since you might never know—you could lose it today? Someone just lost it the second you started watching this video. But be grateful, for it is the only thing you are given once by God. Like it's just the only thing, it's crazy to think about it that way. Like it's the only thing that, when God takes it, you never get it back. So just be Wow, amazing, Sana. Thank you so much for coming. I really love having this conversation over and over again. I mean, it's crazy to see you back It's just amazing always seeing your videos By the way, I'm a huge fan, and many people love you so much. Talk to your fans or don't. Tell them what to expect from you. Uh-huh, the country folks. I love you all so much, and I feel like you're my virtual friends. Please don't give up and don't compare your life to people you see online. There's a lot of fake stuff out there. But I can tell you, man So avoid comparing yourself, know that you are loved, and keep pursuing your goals, guys—don't give up, go for it. Amazing to meet you. My name is Presenter Ali, your entertainment PA. I'd love to continue this conversation. But I think you all should follow her on her social media platforms. She has a lot planned, and you're going to be part of a transformational journey. If you follow her, I mean, I've been there. I've seen what she's doing. It's absolutely amazing. So the episode has actually been sponsored by Bed Palace. They have the best furniture, especially their office furniture. Furniture in Iota. Make sure you contact them for details. It's equal when your screen, you know, I'm a Metamora presenter Ali, the entertainment PA. The A is always for amazing behind the camera and its team, young at Google in Mongols on Frank the director. I'll see you all in the next video, signing out.