Benedict Cumberbatch, James Corden and Kerry Katona Unfiltered!

Shadow Chancellor Alan Johnson resigned and Ed Balls took his place. Alan Johnson's wife has allegedly been sleeping with her bodyguard. It's like that with the Houston film, innit? The Katie and Alex divorce show rolls on. Who's side are you on? Anyone on Katie's? Katie has accused Alex of being obsessed by life in the public eye. I thought I heard the sound of a pot having the **** kicked out of it by a kettle. She reckons Alex had got distracted by the bright lights of showbiz, and all she'd ever wanted was a simple marriage. Trust me, I've interviewed them. That was a simple marriage. Did you see the pictures of Elton John's baby in OK? When I first heard he'd had a baby, I thought, so that explains the weight gain, the mood swings, the big swollen... Oh, that cute cover shot. Do you see it in those little denim dungarees? Oh, they've had a lesbian. I'm joking, I'm joking. He's a little boy called Zachary. Elton wanted to give him a more rock and roll name to reflect his own fiery personality, but unfortunately, tiny temper was already taken. And finally, we've got the National Television TV Awards to look forward to on Wednesday. Dermot O'Leary's presenting. We like Dermot, don't we? Oh, he has got plans for a spectacular opening to the show. He's going to emerge from Gillian McKee's knickers. And it could be a good night for Simon Cowell. Both Britain's Got Talent and The X Factor up for Best Talent Show. It's Sunita I feel sorry for. Chained to that desk, pressing speed dial. Dancing on ice. Don't hit me! What a line-up we have for you tonight. His first baby was hit sitcom Gavin and Stacey. His second baby's due very soon. James Corden will be here. From skating on thin ice to dancing on it. I'll be chatting to Kerry Katona later. But first, he's being called the greatest TV detective of all time. Yeah? No, Sherlock. It's the brilliant Benedict Cumberbatch. Now, I've got to talk about your name. Yes. Benedict Cumberbatch. It's the kind of thing the police ask you to say when they think you're drunk. Yeah. It sounds a bit like a fart in the bath. It's a tricky one. It's a tricky one to say first thing on a Monday morning. Yeah. It really is. It must have been a bully's dream at school. Can you imagine? Yeah. Shall I tell you the best one? Yeah, go on, then. It's got to be... Bendy's... on my back. Mum, if you're watching, I'm very sorry. Teachers can be so cruel. You know Nick Luck, don't you? It was, though. Actually, it was Nick Luck, the racing presenter. It's very inventive. I think that's probably the best. I mean, you get Cucumberpatch when you're about four. Yay. And then it graduates from there. Yeah. And you went to school. Did you go Heaton? No, the other place. Harrow. Hogwarts, that's right, yes. Oh. What was that like? Because you were here like... It was like Hogwarts. There were floating candles and wizards and that. It's very weird. It is a weird school. It was a very privileged, very amazing place to go, but not quite Tom Brand school days. Not loads of whipping and all that sort of nonsense. You have to wear the boater hat and then slip in. Yeah, the Harrow hat. It's a very odd thing. And get muck thrown at you by people who are coming past in cars. Really? Yeah, well, you know, because you just look like a walking... I mean, you're kind of an easy target, aren't you? You kind of stick out like a sore thumb. We used to beg to be allowed to put on something like this, jeans and jacket, something. Basically, we would go down. In my day, it's probably all changed now. We'd go downtown, which, again, that incites some snobbery, I can tell you. But it is up on the hill, so you go down into town. Anyway, in town, you'd be at the cash machine, getting your thing out, getting your money out, and literally people would just chalk your blazer so that they'd know that you were somebody who was carrying cash. You're a little schoolboy with your uniform on. It was ridiculous. And a friend of mine did it and he got mugged and he went, oh, I'll see what I've got. He said, give me £20. I want £20. He went, I'm sorry, I've only got 50. Is that all right? These fans are obsessed with you. Do you know what they're called? The Cumber... Which is worrying on a number of levels. I think it's set feminism back quite a few years. They're a very loyal, very, unlike the name, sort of unspooky bunch of very nice girls who have written to me and said, look, we don't mean to scare you, we just like your work. But have you seen the stuff that these Cumber... have put on Twitter? The nation has been told. Yeah. I mean, and there's other things as well. It is bamboozling. Consider Cumbering my batch. That's actually like a post you get on the tube and in bus stops, isn't it? Someone's like, yes, I want my batch Cumbering. Well, there you go. Yeah, that's an adverb, isn't it? Do you enjoy getting this kind of attention or is it a little bit weird? It's very weird, but it's very flattering and it's come about because of a good reason. You know, I really, really enjoyed my show at Combs and I can't wait to do it again. I will be shortly. So it was just, you know, it was a sort of... It was part and parcel. If you play an icon like that, you're going to come under the spotlight. But, yeah, you do get some weird things. I had a riding crop sent to me in the post, an Ann Summers riding crop. I mean, that appears... Well, yeah, but it appears in the beginning of the first episode to see what bruises form. So that was a sort of witty way of doing it. How did the Sherlock Holmes purists feel about you? You know, because you used GPS, you texted and everything. Did they get angry? Well, no, I mean, there was... I think all of the reactions have been, well, even though I wanted to hate it, I liked it because you were very loyal to the original books. There's loads to enjoy for fans of the books. And at the same time, it makes utter sense to update. And he was always a modern man. He was always into the cutting edge of forensic science and inventions and figuring out gunpowder and footprints and fingerprints and cigarette ash. And so I think to bring him back up to date made sense. He was a modern man in the books, so why not bring him into our modern world? Yeah, because when you first start watching, it's a bit weird to see this, like, this iconic detective, you know, doing these modern things. It's a bit like watching, like, Miss Marple in an internet cafe. Do you know what I mean? I'd pay to see that, though, wouldn't you? Oh, I would, yeah. I've noticed in Sherlock Holmes that you film in Soho. Yeah. Trafalgar Square. I mean, that must be murder. You must get people coming up to you. Actually, you get everybody just going, what the hell is this, what's going on? And you turn up, you do your scene, you do a rehearsal, and then you sort of look up and there are as many people as in this audience practically looking at you with their phones going... It's very weird. Sometimes you just have to let it go because it might be the best take, it might be the best camera movement or whatever else that's been considered. If there's one guy in the background going... You know, you just have to let it go. Really? Yeah, you do. But there were about three or four girls who then decided to be part of it, so every time the camera was on a very long track, they could see us coming, they were nudging each other, and then they'd literally kind of get up and follow me like this. Oh, no! Around the fountain, and it was like, oh, no, that's not going to work. That's not going to be cut together. Cut. Cut, cut, cut. The one thing I noticed about your Sherlock, he's very catty, isn't he? Yeah, he doesn't suffer fools gladly, he's very sharp, really sharp. No, but he's a bit... I mean, leave her alone, she's dead, the poor cow. I was always thinking, like, Sherlock would be a really crap friend to have, wouldn't he? Because he'd just expel you. Destroy your self-confidence. Well, I think, you know, John Watson, that's one of the reasons he's such a hero, is he stays steadfast to him despite this very sort of sociopathic behaviour. He's not an easy guy. So when are we going to see Holmes on our screen again? This autumn, this autumn. Have you filmed them all yet? No, God, no, no, I'm at the National Theatre at the moment, doing Frankenstein with Danny Boyle, and then I start filming when that finishes in May. Well, you're playing it with Johnny Lee Miller. Yeah, we're playing both roles. We're both playing Dr Victor Frankenstein, and the creature is creation. So we're alternating either day. One of us is playing the other part. So it's Danny Boyle as well, so it'll be a visual and aural feast. Underworld are doing the music, which is really exciting, the soundscaping of it. How are you going to play Frankenstein? Are you going to have, like, the bolt in the neck, and be painted green? The creature, the creature. I'm going to play Frankenstein much as I look at the moment. You mean the creature? Yes, he's called the creature Frankenstein. This is a modern... Yeah, but I keep doing it as well. Everyone makes that mistake. But to answer you, no, none of that. It'd be great to do it like that. Yeah. Danny Boyle would be, like, rubbing his hands, if you come on like that. Then pick up a kitten and go... Do that, don't they? Danny, if you're watching, we're going to have to cut that bit now. He's giving it away. Danny Boyle's great and everything. He's fantastic. He's such a force. He's a life force, Danny. He's just like a... That was my little impression of him. Sorry, that was really bad. He's just a very... Is that the creature? No, it's Danny Boyle. Hello! He's one of the most articulate men you could meet. And I'm going... Frankenstein sounds amazing. Thank you. And I look forward to Sherlock coming back in the autumn. In the autumn. Benedict Cumberbatch, everybody. First, though, he's the host of this year's Brit Awards, so put your hands together for my best British male. It's James Corden. Drink, James. Sure. Well, I'm not drinking at the moment, so... You're off. No, it's killing me, but I'm trying to, like... I'm trying to lose, like, a bit of weight before the Brits, which I know I'm leaving in late. Oh, you're playing around. I'm actually really interested, but I'm on this thing and I'm going to the gym. I can barely walk, it's agony, so I'm really just off. I would drink it all gladly, but it's a killer. I'd just give you a straw and poke it out of the glass. Exactly, normally, yeah. That whole 2020, everything, gone. I look at people eating a sandwich, I just go... The worst is the gym, like, going to the gym. Do you go? Do you go to the gym? Yeah, I go. It's just... It's just absolute... Like, where I grew up, like, you don't run unless you're being chased. Do you know what I mean? Or there's an ice-cream van. Yeah, exactly. The ice-cream van came round, suddenly, everyone was like Usain Bolt. Especially me, the little, like, the chubby kid. The bully would be like... What the hell?! And then you couldn't find your shoes, and I was just running in your socks. Oh, I haven't told you about them, I found my mum's leather boots. Zipped them up like that. Ice-cream ran out after. There was an ice-cream van running off, me and my mum's high-heeled boots. Stop, I want a 99! Got everyone in the street going, there's Graham's son. I told you. And you get to the window and you go... And the guy is so used to hearing kids out of breath, he goes, yeah, what's that, 299? Our ice-cream van used to sell cigarettes. You could buy one B&H and a redhead match for a pound. For a pound. So you get a cigarette and you have to strike the match on a wall. That is awful. Where did you live? That's rough. Imagine kids having a rocket and then... Yeah. It's awful. Congratulations, you've got engaged. Yeah. Julia, on Christmas Day. Yeah, yeah, did it, yeah. Oh! Oh, there, yeah, look. I know, I'm doing so well, aren't I? Oh, really? That is the power of television. No, it's great, it's lovely, yeah. I mean, it was oddly, cos it was always my intention, I've thought about it for a long time, proposed on Christmas Day and I'd worked it out and I'd designed this ring and things, and then we found out we were having a baby, so... I know. Double congratulations. How did you propose? Where did you put the ring? Was that at the turkey or something? It was wrapped in bacon. You've got a blanket. I love it. So, we went for a walk on Christmas morning to this place where we often sort of go for a walk and it's lovely and there's, like, a view of London and stuff and we just went up there and it was, like, it was about half seven in the morning and Jules was looking one way and looking at the view and then she turned around and I was just on one knee. Was there tears? Yeah, yeah, no, she, well... Yeah, yeah, there was, there was tears. I was, like, you know, it was nice. It was really nice, it's weird, cos... I mean, it was all right, cos people kept going, were you really nervous? And I thought, well, no, cos she's pregnant. It would be really weird if she said no. Yeah, yeah. It would be really weird. Where do you want this to go, woman? Yeah, yeah, yeah. If she said no, it would have been odd, but no, so... The weirdest thing was that that whole morning, us getting up and stuff, all I could think was, I know what's about to happen and you just think this is a regular Christmas day, like, I know something so huge that you don't. Do you know what I mean? And that was the strangest thing, but it was lovely. It was so nice. Then we went to our family's, it was great. It was really, really nice. Do you know if the baby's going to be a boy or a girl yet? We don't know. We don't know, we're not finding out ourselves. Oh, that's nice. Although... Yeah, we went for the scan thing the other day, like, the most recent scan, and apparently, the doctor, apparently, the baby's already got a really big head and a big waist, right? And as he said this, as he said this, he looked straight at me. Like... Wow, it's got quite a big head and a big waist. And he's eating an ice cream. He's wearing a track suit. So, yeah, no, that's... Yeah, I mean, it's a... Yeah, it's a scary time. I feel quite apprehensive about it. Amazing time as well. No, it's great, it's really great, yeah. Have you told me of any names yet or anything? Well, I had a name which I can tell you about because it's been vetoed. It got completely vetoed, but I quite liked it. You'll understand immediately why it got vetoed. I'll tell you now. I wanted to call it, if it was a boy, Mr. I'm not joking. M-I-S-T-E-R. Mr. Mr Cordon. So then when he's older, he'll be called Mr Mr Cordon, so good they named him twice. Literally, Jules just looked at me and just went... Oh. And immediately, like, you could see in her eyes regret at the choices she'd made in choosing me. That's how they were like Gordon Cordon, isn't it? Or, you know, like Police Cordon. Police Cordon, yeah. Now, I did my maths, yeah? The baby's due at the start of April. Now, I worked back nine months, and to the day, it was when you were last here on Chatty Man. Well... That is true. No, yeah, well, it's... Did I do something? You know what you did, OK? Whenever I see you, it's electric. Yeah. Jules is fine with it. She said... I said, I'm going on Chatty Man. She went, you know what will happen? I said, yeah, and I want it to. She said, even if you're not drinking, I said it would be nice to feel it sober. No, we actually... The baby was actually conceived in Los Angeles. We were staying in... You know Peter Jones from The Dragon's Den? We were staying in his house in Los Angeles, right? So our child was conceived in Peter Jones's bed. It's true, it's true. You've got to call him Peter now, Peter Jones Corden. Well, he already calls it How's Baby Peter. No, How's Little Peter. Someone overheard him saying it to me the other day. He went to a football match and he went, How's Little Peter? And I went, oh, it's all right. Here's Little Peter. Yeah, that's absolutely true. And you've got such a busy year, you're hosting The Brits. Now I've read in the paper it's having a revamp. What's going on? It's a new venue, which I think will really help the sound. The sound's always sort of quite odd. I was caught for some reason. And the thing that really attracted me to it was that they... I think last year's show, it was a two-hour show, and last year's show there was about 22 minutes of music on it. But already, with the line-up as it stands now, there's, I think, 45 minutes of music, which is great. Because I think the important thing is it shouldn't be about the host, really. It should be about the people winning the awards and showcasing these great bands. And it's a great line-up. Take that, I'm performing, and I think Rihanna's performing, and Mumford & Sons, and XX, and Adele, who I saw on your show. I'm literally obsessed with her. Now, do you know who's won it already? How far in front do you know? I only know of one winner at the minute. Because they've changed the whole voting system as well. For the first time ever, the majority of people that are voting on the winners are the people that have won it before, people that are part of British music. So artists and things have never really voted before. So I do know one winner. Is there any truth in that story that you're replacing Dermot on The X Factor? No, of course not, none whatsoever. There's nothing at all. I couldn't even begin to... I would be the worst person to host that show. And Dermot's so good. He's so good because he makes it seamless. He makes it... And it's a tough gig. He's got two hours a night on a weekend. It's crazy. So, no, I couldn't tell you where those rumours came from. And there's only one person who should do that job, and I think it's him. I mean, I haven't been asked to do it, but I've giggled you're in deadlock. Don't get nervous. Oh, no! And my poker face is cracking. As soon as I open it, I'd look to the person who was getting kicked out. I would just laugh every time you went, we're in deadlock. It's gone red. Or not be able to cope if the person that you really like has got a visa. Like, you know, when Wagner stays in another week... Oh, for... You know. You turn to the audience and it's like, are you ******* stupid? It's a joke! Yeah, so I would be... No, I would be awful. Good luck at the Brits. Thanks very much. And I think you'll make a wonderful dad, don't you? James Corden, everyone! She's the queen of the jungle who fell from grace, but now she's clean. She's lean. And back on our screens, it's Kerry Cutter! Amazing! Oh, thank you! Scrubbed up lovely! I did, don't I? Yeah! I'm only laughing at you. There you go. Cheers. How have you lost all the weight? Exercise. I went to a boot camp a year ago and I was the laziest person in the world. Yeah. And I've got the bike for exercise and it made me... I exercise because it makes me think straight. You know, the bonus is you look all right at the end of it. Yeah. So, just pure exercise. I've worked me... off to get like this. You've got a DVD out. I have. And you're Kerry Cutter Real Fitness. Look at the difference. Oh, God. I mean, listen, that pose on the left, that never looks good anyway. What was you looking for? Like a pasty? I think you might have underweighted. I was going to do a DVD, but, you know... I've got to get that first. I've got to get the before picture. Now, listen, you once tried to lose weight. Is it liposuction or liposuction? I ain't got a clue. Really? I don't know how you say it. Liposuction. Where did you get it? I've heard about it. Well, I got offered to... It was for a TV show I was doing. And it was all for free, like. And at first I was like, no, I'm not having it done. But I thought, at the end of the day, what mother of four would get offered something like that all for free? So, I done it in the end. Eight hours. Don't know how much fat was in there, like, but... Oh, my God. Did they tell you anything that came out? Was it like a bit of an Iceland platter popping out? A prawn ring and a chicken wing. So, I watched you on Dancing on Ice. Yeah. Do you know what? You're really good. Oh, I am. I was watching it, and, you know, it was so graceful. Now, I'm not being funny, but you know what? We were thinking, well, you know, or something like that, you know? Not in the audience. I've done that a few times all over, but we had a rehearsal on a Friday with an audience, and I was shaking so much. If you've had a microphone here, we need you to bend and knock it. Cos it's so nerve-wracking, and the fact that my children were in the audience, I've embarrassed them enough, you know what I mean? What do you make of the judges? Well, Karen Barber, I absolutely... Cos she defends us. I've really got close with Karen. I only met Jason for the first time just before the live show. I thought, I'd better shake him down, cos I know he's not a big fan of mine. And I just went, have a great show. Happy New Year. They're all team really nice. I don't know them well enough. Well, Jason, he was a bit nasty, wasn't he? He said, we've had some very annoying people on the show, but Kerry sinks us to an all-time low. We should be aiming for Victoria Beckham, not Kerry. That's a bit mean-spirited, isn't it? I'm used to that kind of press. Erm, you know, I don't really know him well enough to comment on him, but, er... What a f***! It could have been worse. It could have been Sharon Davies. He said she was a turd that wouldn't blush. An outfit. No, that was... You know, he's... I don't know him, but, er... I can give them a banter. Of course you can, love. You've had a tough couple of years. Just a couple. Do you feel it's time now people gave you a second chance? You know what? It's not the fact that you should give me a second chance. It's... My children are getting older now. And I want them to go, rather than go, Kierkegaard, that's my mum. You know? I want them to go, yeah, Kierkegaard, she's my mum. Yeah. And what? What's your problem? She's my mum. You've been clean for over a year now. Yeah. How did you celebrate a year and a bit? I'm going to say something really bad. Got f***ed. Absolutely smashed. No, I've been so busy, I've not been able to do anything. Just, you know, I feel rewarded every time I go home and see my kids. You know, I missed out so much with my children, from just getting off my head, basically, and being in a really destructive marriage, and... I'm just happy that I'm sorted, and, you know... Because I watch your reality show and they make you do a wee, obviously not on camera, which I'm fascinated by, because you go in your toilet, and you come out, and they test it live on air, and it's clean. But it's like... How did you feel about that? Well, they just spring it on me, so, erm... Yeah. It's like... And you know what? I'm always so nervous to do one. Yeah. A wee, that is. Erm... Because then you watch the show, but she has to do a wee. She doesn't do it on camera, but she goes in and comes out. I might as well do everything else on camera. Yeah. She's got everything. No. With either X. I can't sit here and go, I'm so proud that I'm clean. At the end of the day, I messed up. I'm not going to hold anyone else responsible. You know, I've f***ed a few times, and I'm human. I've got no-one else to blame but myself, but I'm trying to make amends. I'm trying to move on from that now, and I want people to try and let me in. You know, I got lost. But before you do move on, let's talk about it a little bit more. I mean, you say that it was like a three-year binge. Four. Four? Yeah. Let's round it up to an even number. Yeah, why not? Can you remember what got you started? It was just... It was just a thing to do. It was all I knew, and then when I met Brian, I moved to Ireland, and, you know, got away from all this s***, and then when he left me, I had to move back to England. And you lie down with dogs, you're going to get fleas. So I went back to my comfort zone, and that was all I knew. Yeah. And, like, I was brought up with the thieves, the backstabbers, the druggers, the dealers. And then when I met my second husband, it was raw. And it was just, like, bipolar medication. And then getting off all that, it was like coming out of a coma and going, where the hell's all my money gone? Yeah. How much money do you reckon you spent? Oh, I ain't got to pop s*** in anymore. Unless it's for a drug test. Millions. I mean, the amount of cars that was bought. You know, I was, like, getting up in the morning on my bipolar medication, blurring, and, like, yeah, you take care of that, you handle the purse strings, and then after this morning, it was like, oh, my God, what the f*** is going on? So would you say when you were on this morning, that was when you felt rock bottom? That's when you thought, f***, this is bottom stock. because even to that point, I still didn't see it. I was, like, I was being told, no, they've got it all wrong, you're absolutely fine. And I was believing it. I was, like, they're all a threat. Yeah, because you were getting really f***ing with Philip, weren't you? I was, yeah, but it wasn't so much Philip. It was never Philip. What annoy me was, Philip said to me, you know, well, Philip said, your speech is a bit slurry. I said, it's because I'm a bipolar medication, and I have an illness, and she went, are you an alcoholic? I've never been a big drinker, ever. I've never been an alcoholic, ever in my life. No. So I got asked, well, Philip kind of got the brunt, but I've mended my ways. Yeah, went back on again. It's so scary. To go on national TV, even today, and hold my hands up, and go, yes, I'm a that I've made mistakes, and you're all right, I was wrong. Did your kids see you on this morning? No, I don't think they did. Oh, Yeah, I've done now, because, like I say, after I've done this morning, the second time around, it was like, Molly and Lily have never seen any MTV shows, or any of the reality stuff, but all the kids in school were looking forward to watching Kerry Katona coming clear. You know, and I came to the decision of, I need to be honest with my children, that they can be honest with me, so I sat them down, they watched it, and I, went, when's all this happened then, Mum? You know, and I was so proud of the fact that she didn't have a clue about the bankruptcy, about why Brian left, or Mark, or, he had no idea, and then I, went, basically, Molly, Mum has been living a double life, like some secret spy, so when we're in Ireland, having a break time, Mum's got to cope with all this, why don't you just tell us, Mum? And I just, laughed so loud, but with tears in my eyes, thinking, you know what, as much as the public used to go, those kids don't deserve, I was really, kept it all from them. You protected them, even though. Even though I was messing up myself, I kept it all from them, so, but the fact now I've been open and honest with them, they're starting to open up with me now, which is, good. You know, I've followed your career, and I've, What career? No, I have, all your reality shows, and you know, I'll be honest with you, like, the first one was, it was Crazy In Love, I love, I'm sure it was really crazy. I don't know about you, but I loved it, I was watching it, and I was really, and I mean, there is something about watching, you know, I'm not saying, can't see it, I didn't want to say it, but then, when you did the MTV show, and you were crying, and then I said, I don't want to watch this, because this isn't fun, and this is like watching someone who seriously needs, help. You know what I mean? I just think you deserve a happy ending, to be honest. Yeah, I think everyone deserves a happy ending, but we all make our own endings, and it's time I start making mine, and that's what we've been doing for the last year. Yeah, yeah, that's good to hear. What top tips would you give them, for getting clean? Oh, you know what, I think, I personally couldn't advise anybody, I think you've got to experience it yourself, I think you've got to hit that all-time low, so you can't go back up again, and it's a hard bloody climb, it really is, and I'm still climbing, I've still got a long way to go, but if I can do it, Kerry Chavtastic Katona, honest God, if I can do it, you've seen my life, it's been demented, anyone can do it, and I really mean that. Do you ever think you're near to going back down, are there ever times in a million years, I haven't worked this out, I haven't got that connection back and I can't call this up again. That is her husband, Mac. There he is, look. So I thought he was the wrong one from the start, I'm right, isn't you? Yeah. He's had like a new Lamborghini every bloody week. I guess that's what you do when you try to buy love, and the thing is, I'm skint now, I've never been happier, so buying people's affection doesn't work, it really doesn't. Where did you meet him, and what made you fall in love with him? I think I was so heartbroken over my first husband leaving me. You know, it was a fairy tale, you know, the family, that is all I ever wanted, and I was in such a rush, I felt a failure as a wife, I felt a failure as a mother, the fact that I couldn't keep their daddy with us, and I felt a failure as a woman, and it's like my dream had been completely destroyed, so I was so eager to get that back and wanting to feel wanted again, that I just, I think I just fell for the, you know, the complete rebel, the bad boy, and you know, and then you get into a certain point where you start to believe what he tells you, you know, it was like your damaged guts, and you know, no one loves you like I love you, get your jams on, get back into bed, and that for me was that I felt like he was looking after me, but it was like, when I got from boot camp, I was like getting up at five o'clock, offering medication, herbal tea, and he'd be like, this isn't you, and it's like, no, this is a good me, you know, I'm doing good, and it's a conflict of interest, and then it's like, whoa, what's going on? Not happening. Why do you keep going back to him? Because I felt it's so hard to be in a relationship that's completely mind controlled, and you start to believe in yourself and go, to find that, I had no one else, no one could help me until I helped myself, and find that strength to get out that bed and go for a jog, and go, right, this bit is one of the hardest, because I had no one else to turn to, and you just got to get that strength. I don't know where I got it from, because if I knew where I got the strength from, I'd put it in a bottle, sell it, and I wouldn't be bankrupt. Let's move on to the future now. since splitting up, are you back on the market? Have you started dating? Are you on the internet? Are you putting your profile out there? Are you going speed dating? What are you doing? Erm, I've not had any offers. Oh, give over. I'm available. Please ring this phone number. Yeah, ring the Chatty Man Studios. They'll put you in touch. I can't borrow a ring up and say, if you fancy going and getting a leg over, yeah, not a problem. But, you know, it's just about me and the kids at the minute. I'm not saying no to a relationship. No, no. How old are you? You're only 30, aren't you? 30, yeah. Married twice, you see. Maybe relationships aren't for me. Don't seem to work. No. But what's next for you? Where do you go from here? What do you want to do? You know what, erm, I don't look too far ahead. I don't get my hopes up too high because every time you do, you get pulled down and let down, so I'm just really honoured that I'm back on TV and it's not for Crime Watch. Good luck with Dancing On Ice. Thank you for having me. Great to have you on the show. Thank you. Kerry Katona, everyone. That's it for tonight's show. A massive thank you to Benedict Cumberbatch, James Corden and, of course, Kerry Katona.