Patrick Christys DEMANDS election as Labour THREATEN democracy - 'We have a RIGHT to vote!'

Okay, well, welcome along. So, is Britain actually a democracy? Andy Burnham won in Makefield. I do hereby declare that Andy Burnham is duly elected. And then Keir Starmer resigned. Every decision I've taken has been about putting the country I love first. That is why I will resign as leader of the Labour Party. And now it looks like Andy Burnham is about to become Labour leader and Prime Minister unopposed. I swear by almighty God that I will be faithful and bear true allegiance to His Majesty King Charles. And the Labour MPs seem to be a pretty united front. Look at that picture there. It's a sensational image, isn't it? Grinning like Cheshire cats as the bloke that they parachuted in from a completely manufactured by-election without the wider British public having a say on it. How can a man who won just 0.03% of the public vote, who was voted for by, I believe, somewhere in the region of about 24,000 people, have a mandate as Prime Minister? And if he's unopposed, he won't really have to tell us what his policies are before he strides into Downing Street. So yesterday, Nigel Farage called for a general election. I demand, we at Reform demand, a general election. Well, Kemi Baden-Ox was a little bit more measured. She said this. All leaders of the opposition want an election. I'd love an election. But we keep throwing elections at the public without getting anything done. By the way, I've just seen in the last few moments that apparently the breaking news is that Rachel Reeves is set to be demoted. So she's taken a demotion, which is interesting because it's like a CV in reverse, isn't it, this now? But yeah, she's set to actually, apparently she's going to take it. She's not going to refuse to work with Andy Burnham. It just shows you how desperate these people are to have any kind of semblance of a job title, doesn't it? That she's willing to be ousted as Chancellor and be given a much, much lesser role and to still take it. But I'll give you more information on that shortly. But for decades, the British public has voted for several things in big numbers. Lower immigration, a stop to illegal immigration and lower taxes. And every single time we've been ignored. In fact, our governments have done the opposite. It's 10 years to the day that the great British public voted for Brexit and our politicians spent years trying to overturn it or making an absolute mess of it. We've had seven prime ministers in 10 years, even by third world standards, having a leader that only 24,000 people voted for is a bit ridiculous. This was what Keir Starmer's Labour manifesto looked like. I think we've got a picture. It's just a giant picture of him and only him with the word change written on it. So people voted for him, didn't they? Didn't really vote for the Labour party. They voted for Keir Starmer and for change. And now he's gone. And this guy who didn't even put Labour logo. Look at those logos there. Vote Andy. Vote hope. Now, again, can anyone see any? If you if you didn't know, you wouldn't really know he was Labour, would you? You know, they don't have Labour logos on parts of his campaign literature. And he's about to wander into Downing Street to rule over us. And he's all over the place on immigration policy, on the EU, on taxes, on everything. In fact, another bit of breaking news today is that he's apparently thinking of watering down Shabana Mahmood's immigration plans. You know, if I was the Tories or reform, though, it's just a little bit of a word of warning here. I would be a bit cautious about calling for a snap general election, because they might find that Andy Burnham is surprisingly popular in the short term, mainly because he has actually got something that resembles a personality. He is actually a relatively normal bloke, OK? And it's such a low bar because we've been treated to Keir Starmer for such a long time. Andy Burnham, yeah, he looks like the second coming compared to that guy, doesn't he? But as far as the British public are concerned, a Burnham premiership is not really a democracy, is it? It's not. Based on the numbers that voted for him and the fact that he might rule over us and opposed. And I do think we have a right to demand a vote as the British public. You've worked hard for your money. So why does it feel like your pounds are constantly losing value? Your savings should grow and be safe. It's common sense, isn't it? But here's the truth. Policy impacts inflation, which silently erodes your purchasing power. Don't let inflation decide what your money is worth. And when your money is with your bank, the bank uses it for their purposes. They lend it. They profit from it. Your money works hard for your bank when it should be working hard for you. 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Esther, do we need to have a general election ASAP for just the sake of British democracy? Well, no, you don't. If you follow the manifesto that the Labour Party won on in 2024, then that would be your guiding principles and that was what the public voted for. We don't have a presidential type of democracy. We have a parliamentary one. So that is that. So he needs to follow that manifesto. And we've seen this before, haven't we? We saw a major takeover from Mrs Thatcher. We saw a Brown takeover from Blair. Rishi Sunak from Boris Johnson. So yes, so long as you're following those guiding principles. But I think we could look at it a different way. If you are saying, which I do, which was hugely entitled, I thought they took the public for granted was the way Andy Burnham just sort of said, as did everybody else, oh yes, just give up on all the people who voted you in as mayor. Let's find you a seat and let's get you in there. And then once you're in there, we'll shuffle you straight into being the prime minister, although you haven't been in parliament since 2017. And it also says, despite there being 403 Labour MPs in parliament, they said none of them are any good. That's the cabinet is no good. Nobody else could do it. But what we're going to do is bring this person in. And I think they're projecting all their hopes and desires on this one person. And trust me, he isn't the Messiah. He is a very naughty boy. He wasn't that great when he was actually in government, when he was in sort of cabinet before. And remember, this is a man when people knew him as an MP, they didn't want him as prime minister. Not once when he lost to Ed Miliband, not twice when he lost to Corbyn. So that's when they knew him as an MP, they decided he was not prime ministerial material. Yeah, Esther, to your first point, if he's going to follow the Labour Manifesto, then really, what was the point of this exercise? There's really only two options. It's very simple. Either he will follow the Labour Manifesto, but deliver it with a smile and a less robotic tone and in a T-shirt, in which case, great, but nothing's going to change in the country. Or he won't follow the Labour Manifesto, in which case he doesn't have a mandate and he needs to go to a general election. And he needs to be open and honest with which one of those two options it is. Now, unfortunately, it probably will be option A, in which case he's going to get a temporary bump in the polls, because to your point, he's a more likeable person than Keir Starmer. But you're going to see the same thing that happened with Kamala Harris happened here, in that you can only float on with vibes alone for so long before the public figure you out. And remember, Theresa May, when she got in, decided she was going to change what she was doing. And she did go for a snap election in 2017. So that's the sort of difference. And you're right, Andy Burnham's got to say, what does he stand for? What has he not agreed with, so far, with what Starmer's done? He's coming in as the great messiah. Well, what wasn't it? And if he didn't, then he would need to have his own manifesto. There are some similarities here. Starmer's kind of said and done what he's needed to do over the years to tread water and get to a certain position. Andy Burnham has said and done what he's needed to do. Of course, it's the old joke, isn't it, that he's a Corbynista, a Blairite, and a brown-eyed walking to a bar, and the barman says, hello, Andy. And he didn't quit when loads of people, including Keir Starmer, quit over Jeremy Corbyn. He's flip-flopped on all sorts of things. He's flip-flopped during the by-election campaign, when it comes to immigration as well. I can see both sides of this. If I was a reformer of the Tories, I would be a little bit careful what I wished for if there was a snap election in the next few months, because I think there is just naturally going to be a Burnham bounce, and you never know, that might massively backfire on them. Also, if I was Andy Burnham, am I realistically going to go to this amount of effort, to take this amount of risk, to get into Downing Street, to risk losing that position within the first couple of months? And we saw the approval ratings of Andy Burnham nationally during the by-election campaign, and he dropped about 10 to 15 points there. So the more the wider public saw of him, the less they liked him. So really, it's a gamble for both of them, isn't it? Burnham might be better served going early. Does he want to blow it? The Tories in reform, do they really want a snap election? How do you see it playing out? Yeah, look, I think Andy Burnham both showed a way to unite the left and beat reform in that by-election. And what's critical there is to unite the left bit, I think, because if there's a big anti-reform, stop-reform vote, that could turn out to be a very different-looking parliament than reform are expecting right now. So I would be cautious about calling for a general election. But as we've sort of talked about a little bit, the time to demand a general election if prime ministers change midterm would have been years ago. Like it or lump it, we've had changes of prime ministers midterm a number of times in the last decade. There were at least cabinet ministers, though, is the thing. But what's different here, I think, is that, you know, yes, you joke about the number of people who voted in Makefield, but we were talking about it as if it was a referendum on the prime minister. That's what he won with 55% of the vote. So he has a degree of a mandate. And also those people who elected their Labour MPs in 2024 also clearly, by an astounding majority, also support him. The point I was trying to make in the monologue, and you forgive me, I wrote that on my phone inside a disabled loo at the trickery house. That sounds glamorous. About 5pm. Oh, yeah, about 5pm. But the point I was trying to make there was that, really, the Labour manifesto was a big picture of Starmer with the word change on it. That was that. And then Andy Burnham has just won here in Makefield without telling anyone, really, that he's Labour. And so I don't see how they can say that they still have a mandate. You know, either people voted for Starmer and for change, or they voted for Burnham, who's not really Labour. I think what's going to happen is we're going to live through that, and you're going to see what he does stand for, he doesn't stand for. So at the moment, if he follows the manifesto, that's sort of the rules of the game. If you follow that, then you're fine. I think there's two things. You are right. I do believe there will be a Burnham bounce, while nobody knows him. And you always find that while nobody knows you, your popularity is high. Once they start to know him, investigate, well, actually, does he believe in renationalisation? Or actually, is the man who pushed through privatisation of the health service, what does he believe in? He was supportive of Waspie winning, then he wasn't. So if he did it immediately, and he'd have to do it pretty soon, rumour is there's one camp for him saying go for it in October. So there is. There is one saying go for a general election there because you could win five years. There's another part of his team, which is much more cautious, why give up three years straight away? So I can see that either way. But I think really, and he's disappeared because I believe his team are in panic because they don't actually know what they want to do. Supposedly, he's always wanted to be prime minister, but he doesn't actually know what he wants to do. He just wants to be leader. This is the key point. And you said we will eventually learn what he believes in. I think that's right. But I don't see any evidence that he has a set of coherent beliefs. No, he doesn't. We hear about Manchesterism, which is this really vague term, which I can't really work out. Exactly. A set of coherent policies that sit behind buses, basically. We're all going to get a yellow bus. Yeah, which is basically it. And if you had to say, what is the fundamental problem of the Starmer premiership? It was the man did not have a vision. He did not have a set of beliefs. And so when times got tough, he didn't have that foundation stone to fall back on. And I don't think it will be any different. No, but I think it'll be worse because remember, he's been a mayor. And what mayors do, they have the money from central government and then they just spend it. There's really no accountability and he doesn't have to choose between benefits and actually what he's going to do with defence. When he's got to choose, this is when he's going to fall out with his back. I feel like a Burnham premiership is like the kind of crowning moment of the death of British democracy in a way. We've had for so many years now, the British public vote a certain set of ways for a certain set of things. And then just the polar opposite being served up time and time again. We're going to hear a couple of clips from Boris Johnson in a second. He sat down with Christopher Hope. Look, on a personal level, I like Boris. He's got the kind of twinkle in his eye that makes you instinctively want to go on a three-day bender with him. He does. He's got this kind of magnetic quality about that. It cannot be denied. But the Brexit vote, which was 10 years to the day, what people did not vote for was the mass importation of people from non-EU countries and the subcontinent and all. That was not a single person who voted to leave, voted for more immigration on the scale that we saw from India and all of those countries. I'm not having a go at the Indian community. I'm just saying people didn't vote for that. And he delivered that. But yeah, and that's the epitome there. I feel like Burnham now, bloke who could be prime minister because 24,000 people have voted for him. It's like the final crowning moment of the death of British democracy. But let's hear from Boris Johnson because he got stuck into Keir Starmer a little bit earlier on today. Here he is. It just wasn't his skills. It turns out that he simply had no idea what to do. And when he did have the right idea, his party wouldn't let him do it. So that was him on that. Let's hear what he had to say on Andy Burnham here. He's a pig in a poke. He's a mascaraed Mancunian mystery. It's anti-democratic. We don't think he's a mascaraed Mancunian mystery. We don't know. We do not know what he stands for. It's a complete pig in a poke. And I think the public are going to demand some pretty early answers from him. Now, I think that personally, I think you'll find it very difficult to continue for long without going for a general election. I can just see Boris in the mirror before that interview saying to himself, mascara Mancunian mystery, and then just having a chuckle going, that'll play, that'll play. That's the dynamite there. It's true, isn't it? I mean, he has got his mascara. Everybody talks about his wonderful eyelashes. But the notion of mystery, what does the man stand for, is true. And I think we will realise, actually, he'll be far worse than Starmer. He doesn't really know what he believes in other than himself, which he wants to be the leader, but doesn't know what it is he wants to be the leader for. I think we're in for a rough ride. Have you seen the... There's a comedian called Russell Cain who does these fantastic sketches where he basically tries to impersonate Andy Burnham. I got a bit of stick from some Northern viewers last night who thought I was taking the mick out of Northerners. I'm not, by the way. I am very much from the North. It's about what I believe is Andy Burnham's performative Northerners. That's what I don't particularly like. There's this thing about, apparently, he was once asked what his favourite biscuit was, and he said, I don't really eat biscuits. I just like chips and gravy. And it's like, come on. But Russell Cain does this great bit where he does this thing like, I'm Andy Burnham. I'm just waking up today. I've just gone to the toilet like a normal man. I'm making some toast, white bread. I don't even know how to spell sourdough. I'm Andy Burnham, and I've got an insatiable thirst for power. I just think it's brilliant. But yeah, I mean, the Burnham stuff for me is fascinating. Just about who he is. The thing I want to put to you guys is that apparently Rachel Reeves is set to be removed as Chancellor and demoted to a lesser cabinet position. And an ally of Rachel Reeves, Rachel Reeves, has said that while she would prefer to remain as Chancellor, she ultimately intends to continue serving in a Labour government. So she's willing to take the demotion for the sake of being around the cabinet table, isn't she? Well, as you would, right? If you'd been elected only less than two years ago to change the country, you'd want to keep serving this government. Sure, she's had a rough ride as Chancellor. There's been a big effort to try and keep her in post from her team, of course. But, you know, to take that experience, the difficult experience of trying to govern and making the difficult choices that— I'd imagine as Chancellor, around that cabinet table, there were no more people taking more difficult choices than her. Then, of course, you wouldn't have that experience in a Burnham government. But the truth was Wes, to not stand against Burnham, said he wanted the position of Chancellor. That's what it was. Any position other than Chancellor is a demotion, in a way, because the top two jobs are Prime Ministers. So anything is. So I don't know where she is going to do. But more telling than that, she wasn't there on the front steps, was she, of Number 10, when Starmer was going and waving goodbye, yet she was there cheering Burnham on. I mean, what a slippery, slimy sort of creature that was to be straight away with the new God. We've seen David Lammy's reverse ferret already. Yeah. David Lammy last night, straight out of the troughs. I've known Andy for numerous years. I think I voted for him to be Labour leader once. Just a couple of other breaking lines for you, quickly. Andy Burnham is considering watering down Shabana Mahmood's immigration reforms. This includes ditching the retrospective reform for Boris Wave migrants to wait 10, not five years, for permanent residents. And he's also set to appoint a bloke called James Purnell as his Chief of Staff. He's the former Cabinet Minister in Tony Blair's government. He's a long-time political ally of Burnham. So give that what you will, I suppose. I think he's a busted flush. He's bringing in old people from when he was there a long time ago. It's very different times. It requires different things. And as you rightly said, immigration is a key issue. In fact, Shabana Mahmood, she was probably trying to do some of the right things there. He's already watering it down because his backbenchers are telling him to do so. He is going to be one weak leader. And because those people that you are going to be taking indefinite leave to remain from are going to vote Labour. I think Shabana Mahmood will stay in post. I wouldn't believe everything you get in unsourced, unnamed briefings in the press, especially in this period when, as you say, he hasn't set out his agenda. We know that, you know, I certainly would say, having been with Home Office people literally today, they are dead committed to continuing the work they started. Shabana Mahmood wants to stay in post, and I bet she will. I could be for the EU. I want to go back in. No, I don't want to go back in. It's like when Keir Starmer was set up to do an interview before the last general election, which was supposed to be like a get-to-know-me interview. And during it, he said he didn't have a favourite book. He doesn't dream. And something else, he didn't have a favourite drink. It was like the least like, it was just that you were none the wiser. Who is my wife? Have I any children? What's my neighbour called? I hadn't a clue. Well, anyway, yes, gosh.