BREAKING: Andy Burnham REFUSES call for ELECTION as Keir Starmer steps aside as PM

Is this one of Keir Starmer's biggest successes in government? I don't think there's any parliament that is gayer than this one. Yeah, it has been a little bit of a gay government, hasn't it? And how's the outgoing Chancellor coping with all of this? I'm not sure if anyone wants my advice. I mean, it's a bit difficult to watch, isn't it? And I think that's the first time I might have agreed with the Chancellor. It's just that muffled mumbling. At least there's no policies coming out of there. Of course, she's still got chess to go to once this is all over for her, because she did once say she was the under-14s U.K. girls champion, which is heavily disputed, of course. I played pretty well. I played pretty well. We thought you were going to win that set. She lost. She lost. Not that great. Maybe not. Maybe not a career in chess then. But perhaps there is one final shot for Rachel Reeves, because here she is working at McDonald's. What do you think? Yeah. Yeah. Future career. Future career. It is real. It was part of a policy announcement, although I wouldn't be surprised if she's already had to tinker with her CV to claim she was the CEO of McDonald's. But what's next once they're both out of office? Well, let's also see what Nicola Sturgeon has been up to. Now her ex-husband's been jailed. Do you have a quick look? Have we got a picture of Nicola? Oh, that's it. Right in the bottom right-hand corner there. She's having a great time boozing it up in the country she loves. England. That's right. She's been spotted in London, no less. The one place she constantly told Scots that were holding her country back. But looking forward, our future Prime Minister, Andy Burnham, is getting ready for power by outlining, well, pretty much nothing. I know we saw that speech the other day, the landmark economy speech. But this evening he's been chatting to teenagers on social media and Reddit, the website's called, and Andy Burnham has claimed there's not going to be a general election. Surprise, surprise. He also wants to reform the electoral system and introduce proportional representation. Oh, and he's also going to keep the triple lock. What do you think about that? Is that a good thing? Keep the triple lock? Yeah? Yeah, I think people like that one. How much does he know about the fiscal rules he's pledged to stick to, though? Can you remind us what the fiscal rules are? I'm not going to go through a discussion like an exam on the fiscal rules. Why not? I know what the fiscal rules are. Remind us what they are. I've been very clear about it. We will set out a plan that is within those rules. What about you? But that doesn't really fill me with confidence that he knows what the fiscal rules are. But most worryingly, Burnham has opened the door to more of this. There is some room for movement on tax, for movement on tax, movement on tax, tax, tax, tax, tax. Right. Well, I think on that note, it's a timely place to put a reminder of this. Mark my words. Labour will raise your taxes. It's in their DNA. Your work, your car, your pension. Thank you. OK. Sorry. Labour will tax it. I said it before. I'll say it again. He is going to put up your taxes. Thank you. Put up your bills. Thank you very much. As clear as night follows day. There you have it. As clear as night follows day. I'm joined now by the founder and CEO of Tally Money, Cameron Parry. So what is Tally Money and what does it do? So you get an everyday account in your individual name. You get an account number and sort code. But instead of having an account denominated in pound sterling with your bank, you have milligrams of gold, which we brand as Tally. The reason why we chose gold, everybody understands gold. It's universally understood and accepted. 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I was going to say, so you're not, you don't necessarily, people are watching this going, oh, it sounds a bit scary. You can open a Tally Money account, transfer. Is there a minimum amount you have to transfer? No. So you might think, I'm just going to play with this. I'm going to put 100 quid in it that I've got this month. And I'm either going to spend it and see if I feel like I'm getting more value for money from the things I'm buying. Or I'm going to save it and watch how that compares to maybe 100 quid in your current account. To find out more and to get an exclusive GB News offer, simply scan the QR code or click the link in the description. Joining me tonight is Associate Comment Editor of the Telegraph, Poppy Coburn. Yes, lovely to see you, Poppy. Broadcasting Royalty, I think you're known as, aren't you, Christo? Fufast. Reform UK County Councillor for Epping Forest, Jamie McIvor. And get ready, it's Labour MP for Brent West, Barry Gardner. Much better, much better. Yeah, they stepped that up, they stepped that booing up. All right, look, I'll start with you, Christo. Because Andy Burnham, we don't really know what he's going to do, do we? He's laid out this weird list of little things like devolution. Doesn't want a general election. He wants to reform the electoral system for proportional representation. But other than that, don't really know anything. And the issue I have with Andy Burnham, I have many issues with Andy Burnham. But the problem is that he is not elected. And nothing that he is going to be doing is going to be fair or democratic. Because unless he just does exactly the same as Keir Starmer, there needs to be a general election. And, of course, he's not going to do that because he is a coward. That's the word I'm looking for. Now, he has outlined one thing that he wants to do. Now, of all the problems that we face in the United Kingdom at the moment, and you can tell me, we have an audience here, so you can tell me whether I'm right or wrong on this, but we've got a cost of living crisis. The world is the least stable that it's ever been. We can't afford fuel. We can't afford food. All of these issues. We've got an immigration problem that is coming across the channel. And, of course, in the numbers when it comes to our infrastructure. So who here, out of all of those problems, thought, I know what we need. We need another number 10 Downing Street in the north of England. Did anyone think of that? Did anyone in the whole of the UK think that that was going to be the answer to our problems and spend half a billion pounds on it? Absolutely not. Another layer of government. Who needs more government? Who needs more devolution? We don't need more government. We need less government. So, oh, and, of course, the land tax, which he'll bring in as well. How can he do any of this stuff without having a general election? It's completely undemocratic. I'm sorry, a 12-minute interview on LBC and a couple of questions from 13-year-olds does not a prime minister make. All right, Poppy. I'll tell you what. That interview on the BBC where he was asked about the fiscal rules was quite shocking, actually, because this man is going to be walking to Downing Street in a matter of weeks. He obviously doesn't know what the fiscal rules are, otherwise he would have answered the question, wouldn't he? What do you think of Andy Burnham? Do you think PR is a good idea, for example? No, I don't think PR is going to be the solution to Britain's problems. I mean, I quite agree. The problem with Andy Burnham is that he's a man utterly without substance. He's been every single political flavour under the sun. When it was fashionable to be a Blairite, he was a paid-up Blairite. When it was fashionable then to go to Gordon Brown, he was a Brownite. When he's thrown out of Parliament, he's suddenly king of the North, and now he's coming south, and he's the great progressive hero. The point is that Andy Burnham believes in nothing beyond being liked. He's someone who desperately craves the attention and the affection of the people around him. That means he will be incapable of making any difficult decisions that his Labour backbenchers won't like. And what actually destroyed Keir Starmer's government, really, when it comes down to it? I know Keir Starmer is a particularly bad politician amongst not exactly a particularly good crop of politicians we have at the moment, but it was fundamentally the problem that he had was he couldn't go against his own MPs. He couldn't govern. He couldn't lead. He couldn't say, no, we have to make a difficult decision here. That's for the good of the country. That's in the national interest. That is what Andy Burnham will do. It is what he has always done. So the moment there's some kind of international crisis, which we're not exactly lacking in at the moment, he will crumble. And it will be exactly as Cammy Badenock says, and I rarely agree with her, but she was spot-on in PMQs last week. He is a pair of eyelashes and a fashionable T-shirt. That is all the man is. There is no substance to him, and he will be a terrible Prime Minister. But Poppy, buses. Buses. We're all excited for the buses, aren't we? Jamie, is Andy Burnham a problem for Reform UK? Do you know he's not? So, first of all, spent a lot of time in Makefield. Andy Burnham is not king of the north. I can assure you of that. What Andy Burnham was, was a ticket to get rid of Starmer. And let's thank the people of Makefield for getting rid of Starmer with their huge vote share either way. Secondly, Andy Burnham is not a problem for reform because unlike the leader of Reform UK, Nigel Farage, Nigel Farage believes in stuff Andy Burnham doesn't. Nigel Farage has been consistently calling out illegal immigration, the problems of the European Union, and has been right and proven right on so many things. And just this week, a small boat arrived in Nigel Farage's own constituency of Clacton. So the British people trust Nigel Farage. They do not trust Andy Burnham. But let me tell you, if you live in Manchester and you're on a six figure salary and you want to work for a PR agency and live in a posh, swanky skyscraper in Manchester City, then yeah, Burnham's been a great mayor for you. Go to Wigan. Go to Bolton. Go to the outskirts of Manchester. Andy Burnham has failed people and he will fail the country as prime minister. All right. Look, so, yeah, there you go. Barry, I just want to have a quick one sentence answer from you and then get the thoughts of the audience. One sentence? You give this lot, you give this lot, as long as they're blinking well nicely. One sentence. Make it a short one, Barry. We've got to go to the break. Obviously, we'll give you a chance to respond to all of them. I wanted to ask you one question first, then I'll let you weigh in. Listen, just start the booing now, OK? Do you think the British public want a general election, Barry? Yes or no? One word. No. Right. Now, let me ask the audience and then I'll come back to you. Do you want a general election in the audience? Raise your hands if you do. Right. That is one, two, three. That is 90 per cent of the audience. Barry, what do you make of that? Yes, you have an audience that is self-selected to come on this programme. Look, let's just get this right, OK? First of all, a few facts, OK, to counter what was said. Christo said this is the least stable the world has ever been. Well, look, I would put forward the period between 1939 and 1945 as perhaps a little less stable than it is today. He wasn't actually thrown out of Parliament, Poppy. He stepped down to become mayor of Manchester, OK? Just a few facts. Coward? OK, cowards would not have taken on a by-election in an area where 16 seats had just been up for grabs and 15 had been won by your party. Yet he did and he won. And I was on the doorstep a lot in Makerfield as well. And what I found was that actually he was very popular on the doorstep. But isn't it a general election? Have a general election. But let's just get this right, because you use the word coward. That's what Cammy Babnock was saying. Mr Farage was filmed saying that she was a coward, right, in the middle of a field, as far away from any journalists as he could possibly get, right, because he didn't want any of them to ask him about his five million quid, or his promise to have reform councils lower council tax, or his house in Clacton, or his Financial Conduct Authority referral. If Farage is keen on having elections, right, then he could have asked Robert Jenrick, Danny Kruger, Suella Braverman, when they changed party, to have stepped down and done what he thinks is the decent thing, to have held a local by-election. But he didn't. OK, but he probably will have an election soon, because if the Standards Committee goes ahead, he may well actually have to have a local by-election in Clacton. Right, on that, Barry Gardner, the 27th of May 2019, Barry Gardner says, Yeah, I did. So you think Andy Burnham should face a general election? Listen, I would not be surprised if Andy Burnham gives it a couple of months and then calls a general election. And actually, if you remember, the big mistake that Gordon Brown made, he'd had a good three months, and he was just, well, he actually told us he was going to call a general election. And then he got cold feet because David Cameron walked up and down the stage, talking to the audience at his party conference without any autocues and anything like that. Right. Big mistake, because then he went down in the polls. He could have won a general election, I think, probably in 2010. He was winning in the polls by about ten points. He was winning in the polls and he bottled it. And that was wrong. But actually, I think Andy Burnham, if he's smart, he'll come in. He'll say, look, of course, I'm not going to do that immediately. People have got to see how I'm going to govern. But actually, maybe in six months or a year's time, he says, you know what? Now we go for an early general election. But what he's got to do is he's got to carry out those bits of the Labour manifesto that have not been implemented yet. I mean, I want to see leasehold reform. I want to see. Number 10 in the North was not in the Labour Party manifesto. No, but it's hardly the biggest policy. Half a billion pounds is quite a big policy. And I'm sorry, people voted for Keir Starmer. And if they checked, and I know what you're going to say to me. You're going to say, no, no, no, no. They didn't. They don't. They vote for parliamentary. They vote for their MP. They vote for the whole party. Would you like to see the front page of the Labour Party manifesto? Can you see that on camera? That is a picture of Keir Starmer, front page of the Labour Party manifesto. Hands up, whoever actually went out, bought and read the Labour Party manifesto. Yeah, I thought I'd be the only one. You and I, well done. But look, as if that proves anything. I need to ask a very serious question. If as a respected Labour MP as you are, surely you and your colleagues will get together and write to the new prime minister and call out the urgency to have a general election for that very reason? Look, look, I will no doubt be chatting with Andy next week. Good. Tell him to come on the show, please, Barry. I'm quite sure that Andy will make up his own mind without any need for advice from me. Barry, just to interrupt, the gentleman at the back there wants to ask a question. Fire away. Barry, you mentioned 1939 to 1945 was turmoil and a risky time for the world. But we had a leader. We had a leader who took us out of it. Do you really believe Andy Burnham is going to take us out of this? Well, look, Andy Burnham, I believe, is a good leader. I believe he will be a good leader. But when you say take us out of this, he's not going to be able to single-handedly take us out of what's going on in Ukraine. Because we're not in that war, thank God. We're not in the war in the Middle East, thank God. But although reform and the Tories actually wanted us to go sailing in after the Americans. The Americans, by the way… Barry, I'm going to have to rush you. I thought you probably would. Very, very quickly. The Americans, by the way, have just offered Iran $100 billion to open the Straits of Hormuz without charging fees for… Well, the big question is going to be… That's a serious question we all have to face and our economies do.