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AI GeneratedThis parliamentary session features heated exchanges between the Deputy Prime Minister and MPs regarding public safety, judicial reform, and social cohesion. Key debates center on the controversial early release of prisoners, institutional failures in child protection, the regulation of AI deepfakes, and a new government action plan to combat extremism and restore national pride.
Shrewsbury, closed. Portsmouth, closed. Holloway, closed. North Allerton, closed.
And what are they now? A block of flats. That's why we need an early release scheme.
That's why we passed the Sentencing Act. And we're empowering communities locally to make sure
that we protect the public.
Sir James Beverley.
Mr. Speaker, he makes a joke about the use of figures. Let me give him a figure.
50,000 prisoners released early in just two years under his leadership.
And I am genuinely shocked. I am genuinely shocked, Mr. Speaker.
that when given the opportunity to apologize to the victims, he publicly failed to do so.
And let me remind him what this is about. Let me quote Fiona Goddard, herself a victim of
grooming gangs, who has been brave and open about how his policy will impact her.
And she says,
Learning that they might be released early has completely thrown me off track.
I have barely left the house. I feel constantly anxious, frightened, and unsafe.
I can barely sleep.
This is the impact his policy is having on victims.
He refuses to apologize.
But why is he pursuing a policy that he must know is both wrong and dangerous?
This is a very serious matter. And the hon. Gentleman is experienced in this House.
He knows that while he was Home Secretary, they had an early release scheme that set out
10,000 offenders. They had six schemes within a year.
They had a plan that they announced on June 6, 2023.
Another scheme on October 17, 2023. Another scheme on March 8, 2020.
That is why we are notifying victims in consultation with all victims.
Last week, I sat in my surgery with a victim of grooming gangs.
We all want to see offenders behind bars. That's why we need the capacity to do so.
Sir James Blevely.
Mr. Speaker, he refers to 10,000 early releases over the 14 years of Conservative government.
They have released 50,000 in two years.
And he knows it's wrong. But his party knows it's wrong.
Four hundred Labour MPs voted, and not one supported the Government's policy in last night's vote.
They know it's wrong.
The country knows it's wrong, but he insists on pursuing it anyway.
So if he refuses to change course, will he at least make this promise?
That not one rapist or pedophile will be released early later on this year?
He hasn't proposed what they would do if they were in office.
They released 10,000—10,000 with four different schemes.
No impact assessment was conducted when they were released.
No victim contact when they released them. No warning.
They did it secretly.
And let us be clear. Yes, we have more probation officers.
They ruined the probation, completely destroyed it because of Chris Fraley.
We have invested £700 million in probation.
We are launching the largest tagging program in our history.
We are forcing offenders to remain confined to specific areas rather than where victims are.
We are imposing bans on alcohol, pubs, football, and driving.
We are implementing income reduction orders.
And we're expanding chemical castration for sex offenders.
None of it happened when they were in power.
Sir James Bradley
Mr. Speaker, he will look back on this exchange, and I think he will be shocked by how it is coming across.
No apology to the victims.
No guarantee that pedophiles and rapists will not be released early.
We all know that deliberately releasing dangerous criminals is the wrong thing to do.
We are not satisfied with doing that.
He is determined to accidentally release dangerous criminals.
Last year, last year, in response to the questions of my right honourable friend,
the Member for South Suffolk
He claimed that under Labour he had brought accidental releases under control.
Yet we now know there have been more accidental releases in the last two years.
rather than in the entire previous Parliament.
So I give him another chance.
Will he apologize to the nation for his abject failure?
at keeping prisoners in prison where they belong?
I must say, this coming from the honorable gentleman is rich.
They had 14 long years in power.
They destroyed neighborhood policing.
He was the Home Secretary.
Prisons were at full capacity.
That's why they held the general election.
And they secretly released offenders.
And that is why we have the Sentencing Act that passed through this House.
and the House of Lords.
What we're doing is getting thousands more police officers on the beat.
We're making probation stricter.
They've destroyed it.
And we have to have the space to incarcerate dangerous criminals.
That's why we passed the Sentencing Bill.
Sir James Claverley.
Mr. Speaker, it's the dangerous criminals that he is letting out early.
So he refuses to apologize to the victims.
It refuses to guarantee that sexual offenders and rapists will not be released early.
Another thing that the country and indeed this House instinctively knows is wrong
is his personal crusade to abolish trial by jury.
We know that it will not clear the backlog.
We know that it undermines fundamental British freedoms.
And we know the legal profession is united against it.
So will he now admit that it is wrong?
And will he commit to reversing his proposals to abolish trial by jury?
Well, let's be clear, Mr. Speaker.
There is no proposal before this House to abolish trial by jury.
The Honorable Member needs to do better and get into the details.
There is a threshold change.
Margaret Thatcher introduced changes to jury trials.
David Cameron introduced a change to jury trials.
The vast majority of criminal cases in this country are handled by magistrates.
Again, which they cut.
We're restoring the magistrate, and they will be able to do more.
We are investing in our courts.
They ran roughshod over our courts.
We are modernizing our courts.
We are introducing digital ID.
And we need reform.
He speaks in glowing terms about what he claims to be doing.
What we are actually seeing this Government doing
is siphoning money from where it's needed
and squandering it on the welfare bill
which has increased by £20 billion this year alone.
And he talks about moving past the details.
Here's a simple detail for him.
When I was Home Secretary, we had more police officers.
than at any point in British history.
Since taking over, that number has decreased by more than 2,000 officers.
Last week at the Dispatch Box,
my right honourable Friend the Leader of the Opposition
highlighted this government's failure to defend us internationally.
Today, I have outlined his failure to defend us domestically.
If the soon-to-be Prime Minister...
Is he anywhere in the room?
If the soon-to-be Prime Minister does not wish to be complicit in his failure,
He should come out and condemn this plan.
not just hint that he opposes it.
Because if the Labour party cannot protect the citizens of this country,
either domestically or internationally
Then what on earth is the point of them?
Mr. Speaker, he insists on proving that he can't count.
We lost 16,000 police officers while they were in power.
Mr. Speaker, the British people haven't forgotten.
what the opposing party did to our country.
After two years of a Labour Government,
I'll compare our records every day of the week.
Their record represents the greatest decline in living standards in recorded history.
Our record represents the greatest advancement in workers' rights in a generation.
Their record is destroying our criminal justice system.
Our record is reducing violent crime.
Their record is millions of people stuck on NHS waiting lists.
Our record shows we are reducing NHS waiting lists at the fastest rate in history.
Their record is outstanding in defense.
He was a reservist.
They shouted out the armed forces.
Our record represents the largest increase in defense spending since the early 1990s.
And their policies are plunging hundreds of thousands of children into poverty.
Our record includes lifting half a million children out of poverty.
I'll take our record over theirs any day of the week.
Thank you, Mr. Speaker.
Official report by Family C regarding the most depraved sexual abuse of children
identifies serious failures by Glasgow City Council and other bodies.
The report, Mr. Speaker, states that one child victim knocked on the windows.
shouting at a health visitor not to leave
This was regarded as street-smart behavior, not a desperate plea for help.
The staff described the same child with contempt.
saying the child's behavior was nasty and interfering.
The children desperately needed compassion, love, and safety, not contempt.
Does my right honourable friend agree with me?
that the council must accept rigorous, independent scrutiny of what has occurred
and independent oversight of the implementation of improvements?
Well, Mr. Speaker, this case involves horrific offenses against vulnerable children.
I know all members of this House will join me in paying tribute to the victims.
who have shown remarkable courage in coming forward.
It is evident that these children were terribly let down.
Glasgow City Council must urgently act on the recommendations of this review.
I know my honourable friend has written to the Scottish Government.
to request an independent investigation.
The SNP should consider this request with the seriousness it deserves.
Daisy Cooper, Deputy Leader of the Liberal Democrats.
Thank you, Mr. Speaker.
May I associate myself and my party with the Deputy Prime Minister's tribute to Sir George Howarth?
his remarks about the 7/7 bombings
and all those who live with the consequences of that terrible day,
and wish England good luck for Saturday evening.
And as the UK prepares for its seventh Prime Minister in a decade,
Can I also thank the Deputy Prime Minister for our exchanges?
and wish him well in whatever role he may have.
Mr. Speaker, the honourable member for Clacton used to say...
Mr. Speaker, the honourable member for Clacton used to say,
Leave means leave.
It seems his latest stunt is to leave this place.
just so that he can return as a fully-fledged member
after not just one referendum on his conduct, Mr. Speaker, but possibly two.
So will the Deputy Prime Minister join us in urging the Chancellor?
to delay the honorable member for Clacton's resignation until the investigation is complete,
So the good people of Clacton have all the facts before they cast their votes?
And if not, will he support our Clacton clause?
so that even once the honourable member ceases to be an MP,
Can the investigations continue?
Well, everyone can see that the reform leader is just trying to distract.
from the fact that he's up to his neck in sleeves.
He has serious questions to answer, and he can't run away from them.
Labour isn't going to be part of this circus.
I hear it's the people versus the establishment.
The city trader Putin admiring a professional politician
Who is friends with crypto billionaires versus Count Binface?
There have been unqualified joke candidates in the past.
Let's see what the people of Clacton decide.
Daisy Cooper.
Thank you, Mr. Speaker.
It's clear it's a two-horse race.
Mr. Speaker, on a more serious and very somber note.
On a sombre note, Mr. Speaker, on a sombre, sombre note.
MI5 has defended in court an agent whom they knew to be openly misogynistic.
obsessed with violence
and who used his position to coercively control his girlfriend Beth
and attack her with a machete.
To add insult to injury, MI5 also provided false evidence to the court.
So will the Deputy Prime Minister take this opportunity?
to offer Beth a full apology on behalf of the government?
And will he use his position to bring back a full Hillsborough Bill next week?
which covers the security services so that we can pass the law before the summer recess?
Well, she does raise a very serious issue, of course.
And I will arrange for Beth to meet with the Security Minister to discuss this in detail.
She also introduces the Hillsborough Bill.
And I am confident that this will be before the House in the coming days.
Emily Darling
Thank you, Mr. Speaker.
The Deputy Prime Minister and most of us across this House
have been victims of AI-generated fake news, also known as deepfakes.
They mislead the public and undermine our democracy.
BBC News coverage and coverage from other news channels
is also being manipulated by AI to spread falsehoods.
Will he, along with MPs from across this House,
support the amendments I have tabled to the Representation of Peoples Act
which would require anything created by AI to be labeled as such
and stop producing deepfakes of ourselves and our colleagues
and prevent the UK from these destructive tactics employed by foreign states and others
Who wishes to see our democracy made weaker?
Well, I am very grateful to my esteemed colleague.
She is right that our protections must keep pace with evolving threats, including deepfakes.
I know she has been in close discussions with ministers on this issue.
And we will examine her amendment closely.
We are absolutely focused on protecting our democracy against foreign interference.
Dr. Ellie Chapman
Thank you, Mr. Speaker.
Our politics needs fixing fast.
The broken, outdated first-past-the-post system
has clearly failed to deliver a stable government.
We urgently need to rebuild trust in our democracy.
and ensure that every vote counts equally.
Does the Deputy Prime Minister agree with the right honourable Member for Makefield?
that proportional representation is an idea whose time has come?
Does he agree with me and Members across this House?
That time is now, before the next general election?
Well, I'm very pleased that she brings up the issue of votes and democracies.
But I must say this to the Greens.
During the local elections, a Green councillor in Lewisham
called me and the shadow Foreign Secretary coconuts.
Her party turned a blind eye, kept her candidate in office
and have awarded that candidate a council position.
I'm not making this up.
The Cabinet Member for Healy.
The Greens could begin a healing process by ceasing such racist language.
Thank you, Mr. Speaker.
This week marks the second anniversary of our Labour government.
And two years on, my constituents in West Dunbartonshire now enjoy greater rights at work.
Thousands of workers are now better off thanks to increases in the national minimum wage.
Thousands of children lifted out of poverty.
Tens of millions of pounds in Pride in Place funding
to communities previously left behind.
Shipbuilding on the decline has been secured by the Norwegian naval deal.
Billions of pounds of investment in Fast Lane.
As well as a new youth hub set to open next month.
I think even the Deputy Prime Minister could answer that.
Well, can I commend my Honourable Friend for the difference he has made?
including his diligent efforts to secure Pride of Place funding for his constituency.
He boasts an amazing record over two years.
And we have three more left to go.
Understandably, over the past week, rules and regulations have come under sharp focus.
But even more important than the rules and regulations is the law.
And on that subject, I believe there are several matters on which everyone in the House can agree.
And everyone in the House can be proud.
Phrases such as without fear and favour.
And symbols such as Lady Justice wearing a blindfold.
Now I would like to ask the Deputy Prime Minister, however well-intentioned he may be
actions by the MPCC and the College of Policing
with their programs such as the Race Action Plan may be.
We have seen some very high-profile cases where
civil unrest has occurred where faith in the police has been shaken
as appears to be a two-tier decision-making process.
So may I ask, in good faith, what the Deputy Prime Minister can do?
to reassure people that impartiality and fairness will always be upheld?
Well, may I say to the Honorable Gentleman that everyone is equal before the law.
That is the foundation upon which the openness, tolerance, and generosity of this country are based.
And let's be clear, there is no two-tier justice in this country.
And may I say, the Honorable Member was elected as a reform-minded member of Parliament.
And he clearly aspires to become one once again.
Reports have emerged that concerns were raised with the National Crime Agency
about Nigel Farrar's five million gift,
He should be asking, where did the money really come from?
I am deeply grateful for what the Prime Minister has helped us achieve.
in Cornwall over the past few years.
Whether that's free breakfast clubs, urgent capital funding for GP surgeries
or the Kernow Industrial Growth Fund.
However, what has held us back at various points,
not beside the muttering from the other side,
I would argue completely unnecessarily,
is something to which the answer is blatantly obvious to everyone in Cornwall.
The question of who should be the masters of Cornwall's strategic destiny.
Does he agree with me that the answer to this question must always be Cornwall?
And will he make time for the Government to lay the statutory instrument required?
to make Cornwall, once and for all, a strategic authority
so that when the right honourable Member for Makefield comes in,
that we can ensure good growth in every postcode
and the re-industrialization of Cornwall?
Well, may I thank my Honorable friend?
He is right to champion the immense potential of Cornwall.
We are absolutely committed to devolution.
and placing power in the hands of local leaders.
Discussions with local authorities, including Cornwall, are ongoing.
We will confirm the next steps as soon as possible.
I know the ministers will be happy to update him.
Dr. Ros Savage
Thank you, Mr. Speaker.
My constituency of the South Cotswolds is the ninth most sewage-polluted constituency.
throughout the entire country
with thousands of hours of sewage pouring into the Thames, Avon, and Colne.
But that measure of hours hides the truth.
It does not convey the actual volume.
And clearly, a trickle is very different from a gush.
So will the Deputy Prime Minister arrange for me to meet with the relevant Minister?
to require water companies to report on the volume and concentration of sewage discharges,
as well as the number of hours?
Well, she's right.
We inherited record levels of pollution.
We are determined to tackle this and clean our waterways.
We have acted by banning unfair bonuses,
introducing prison sentences for law-breaking bosses,
unlocking £104 billion in private investment to rebuild vital infrastructure
to deliver cleaner waters,
And, of course, we have the Clean Water Bill.
Of course, I'll arrange for her to meet with the Minister.
Kat Ettles
Thank you, Mr. Speaker.
Stourbridge is famous for many things.
The glass industry, Jude Bellingham, Robert Plant
and, most importantly, the Stourbridge shuttle,
the UK's shortest railway line, at just 0.8 miles
or 1.3 kilometers if you prefer metric
and it connects Stourbridge Junction with Stourbridge Town.
Despite its small size, it achieves an impressive 99.6% reliability.
compared to the West Midlands, an average of 64.4%
One of my highlights as an MP was unveiling a shuttle car.
named after the local legend George, the Stourbridge Station Cat
whose global social media following made him a beloved figure at the crossroads,
and today marks the beginning of Shuttle Shorts,
A short film festival celebrating the journey.
The shuttle demonstrates how a community railway can enhance local mobility.
Does he agree?
that the pre-metro ambition to introduce the BLR service
Between Stourbridge and Briley Hill lies a valuable opportunity for GBR.
And should local businesses be supported to do this?
First, Mr. Speaker, I would like to make a statement about the future.
It's coming home.
And may I thank my hon. Friend.
I'm happy to echo her sentiments about Jude Bellingham.
He is not only making Stourbridge proud,
But he is a source of pride for the entire nation.
Great British Railways is undergoing the largest overhaul we've seen.
of our railways in a generation.
We will work with all partners, including local authorities and local businesses.
to drive investment, support economic growth,
and provide better service for her constituents.
Thank you very much, Mr. Speaker.
Constituents in the western part of North Shropshire
were delighted when RIS 3 was announced,
because as part of the National Safety Programme,
a roundabout at the desperately dangerous Flunkers Crossroad
Became a step closer.
But with the announcement that the defense investment program
will be funded by cuts to transport programs,
Can the Deputy Prime Minister reassure my constituents?
that the National Safety Programme won't be cut?
And can he consider adopting the Liberal Democrat proposal of defence bonds?
to finance the defense investment plan,
so that critical security projects such as transportation
are not put at risk through the programme?
We are increasing defense spending to keep this country safe.
in an increasingly volatile world.
That does require tough decisions.
and the Department of Transport will allocate £700 million
value of savings for road funding
But we will consult on the next road investment strategy.
and make our decisions in due time.
I can reassure the Honourable Lady that the safety of passengers
would always come first.
Pam Cox
Thank you, Mr. Speaker.
Ruth Ellis was the last woman to be executed in this country.
Her case serves as a haunting reminder
of a time when our justice system ignored
the realities of domestic abuse and coercive control
In the decades since, members of Ruth's family and supporters
have campaigned unwaveringly for her to receive a posthumous pardon.
Will the Deputy Prime Minister agree with me?
that their courageous campaign
and the terrible lessons of Ruth's case
must strengthen the Government's resolve
to free women from devastating cycles of abuse?
I am deeply grateful to my esteemed friend.
I have the honour to say that His Majesty the King
Has accepted our advice
to grant Ruth Ellis a conditional pardon,
the last woman to be hanged in the United Kingdom
While the pardon does not claim
She was innocent of killing David Blakely.
It replaces the death penalty.
with a sentence of life imprisonment
to recognize a profound injustice in this exceptional case.
I know her grandchildren, Laura Enston and Stephen Beard.
are in the gallery with us today.
We hope this brings a measure of peace to Ruth Ellis's family.
who have borne the burden of what happened to her
for over 70 years
Thank you, Mr. Speaker.
The government has said that higher taxes
are needed to finance increasing welfare expenditures.
In Northern Ireland,
My party's Minister for Communities is taking action.
to reduce welfare fraud and errors.
Previous discussions were held
between the Treasury and the Department
that would have enabled the Northern Ireland Departments
to retain a share of any savings
to invest directly in public services
but those proposals were blocked by Sinn Féin.
Would the Deputy Prime Minister ensure
that the incoming Prime Minister
I will reconsider that approach.
so that we can combat benefit fraud,
protect taxpayers' money
as well as providing tangible benefits
for communities across all of Northern Ireland?
Well, I know that my Honorable Friend,
the Minister for Northern Ireland,
is discussing the budget at this very moment,
but addressing fraud and error in the welfare system
is a priority for this Government.
That's why we passed the Fraud, Error, and Recovery Act,
granting the DWP greater powers to halt fraud in its tracks,
Recover lost money and prevent overpayments.
Thank you, Mr. Speaker.
Yesterday, I was proud to host
a number of members of Basingstoke's Nepalese community
here in Parliament,
including a number of Gurkha veterans.
One of the issues we discussed
was that of Gurkha pensions,
and I pay tribute to the work
of my Honorable Member,
a friend from Aldershot,
for all her work on this issue.
I have been proud to work alongside her.
Does the Deputy Prime Minister agree?
that it is time to resolve the long-standing issue
of Gurkha pensions
recognizing the service and sacrifice
of Gurkha veterans to our country?
Well, I am very grateful to my Honorable Friend.
We owe a profound debt of gratitude
to the Gurkhas
who have served this country bravely.
We are listening to the needs of the community,
and we are already improving access
to healthcare and community support.
Ministers have met with veterans.
in the Government of Nepal
for constructive discussions on pensions
Those will continue.
and I would be happy to ensure
that my Honorable Friend is kept informed.
Rebecca Paul
Thank you, Mr. Speaker.
Coughlin's Bakery,
which was founded in 1937
has announced the closure
of all its stores
Five of them are in my Ryegate constituency.
The reasons given by Sean Coughlin
include recent employer national insurance
and business rate increases.
This much-loved family business
that has survived a world war
and multiple recessions
has not been able to survive
this Labour Government
So I ask the Deputy Prime Minister,
How many businesses need to fail?
before this Government learns
that it cannot achieve growth through taxation?
We're supporting business
with the lowest corporate tax
in the G7
We have delivered the small business plan.
with the largest crackdown
on late payments over 25 years.
We're reducing costs for businesses.
through five major trade agreements.
We have secured £365 billion
in private investment
since the election
and unemployment down
Over 400,000.
400,000 more people in employment
than this time last year.
Final question.
Thank you, Mr. Speaker.
Last month I had the opportunity
to operate a staff bank center
in my constituency,
one of the many
that I am proud to have
across Waxhaw and Campbell Green
for their 75th anniversary.
The House may know
that the staff bank centre
was built as part of
the Festival of Britain 1951
which successfully saw
People come together
to share the identity
after the ruins of World War II
Seventy-five years on, Mr. Speaker,
Sadly, the world is a more divided place.
Recently we've seen
two far-right marches
including one going through
my constituency,
leaving many members feeling afraid.
But, Mr. Speaker,
There is hope.
as we see with the World Cup
bringing people together,
showing the power
of culture and sport.
So does the Deputy Prime Minister.
Agree with me
Now is the moment.
to continue investing
in the things that
Bring us together,
just as the government
What did you do in 1951?
Well, can I thank
my esteemed friend
for the tireless work
that she does in this area.
She is absolutely right.
We must stand united.
against those
who seek to divide us.
Our social cohesion action plan
sets out how we will
combat extremism,
Bring communities together
and restore national pride.
And we are providing
local communities
up to £1.7 million
to insulate them
against the threats
to social cohesion
