The Truth About Tyler Robinson LAUGHING During the Preliminary Hearing, with Jack Posobiec

Jack, I know you've been sitting there all week. What's that been like? And how do you think it's going? Well, hey, Megan, thanks so much for having me on. And of course, for your extensive coverage of this case and hearing as we're into it now. I struggle to find the words to put it together. It's surreal. The whole thing is completely surreal when you get to that courthouse and you walk through. I mean, the security situation is absolutely, is absolutely tremendous. There's security from counter snipers up on the roof to drones to when Don Jr. was there, we had secret service. We have men with long guns. We've got SWAT team inside and outside. So you're walking through all of that, then the media. And then when you get into the room itself, the courtroom is actually quite small. There's only about four rows with wooden sort of like church pews where you sit in. It's not particularly comfortable. And that's the whole gallery. So I'm in the front row. Don Jr.'s over here. And then right on the other side, it's Erica, Charlie's parents. And then just in the next row is Tyler Robinson's family. And again, you've just got these SWAT officers all over the place, even inside the courtroom and then sheriffs and the bailiffs up front. And there's media in the jury box right now. And I don't know how much of this you can see on the live stream, because I think they put some restrictions on exactly what can be shown. And then there's only a few feet between us and right there is Tyler Robinson. And he's right there and he's been right there the whole time. He hasn't turned back. He hasn't acknowledged either Charlie's family or even his own family. You know, from their part, I would say that just seeing Charlie's family go through this, they're showing incredible strength. And you see Erica and Charlie's mother just been sitting next to each other, being there for one another, and being willing to face down that hell itself and be there going through this. And then also, I would even say that, you know, my heart goes out to Tyler Robinson's family as well, because their family was also destroyed by this act. And they seem to be good people. They did the honorable thing, I think, in watching the news, seeing what happened, and then picking up that phone. I haven't heard them say one word the entire time. Very quiet. There's, you know, obvious reasons for that. But it can't be easy for them. But they seem like good people. They seem like honorable people. They seem like good American citizens. And I think they probably never expected to be in a situation where they find themselves now. And so I've just, you know, we're praying for everyone involved in this. I've had my rosary out the entire time. I've actually been saying the rosary during court. I will say I'm not the only one with my rosary out. I'm not going to say who else did. That's for them to come out and say. But there's been a lot of prayer. And we're doing everything we can to make sure that the Holy Spirit is in that room with us. Thank God. Thank God. That makes me feel better to know that you have that beautiful rosary. You gave me one too, which I use all the time in there with you. It just feels like a measure of protection somehow. Who is there for Tyler Robinson? Is it just his parents? I don't know all of his family members. It's clearly his mother and father that I do recognize. And then they do have a number of people with them. I think more than likely extended family. Again, there's not much communication because when you're in court, you're not talking. They do ask that we maintain decorum. They ask that we be quiet. And then when we break, you know, there's sort of an area where they go and there's an area where we go. There's an area where the media and the public go. And so it's not really conducive to any sort of a back and forth or interaction. And the same, you know, no cell phones. Actually, someone had a cell phone at one point and they were asked to take it out. And so we do have notepads, a number of us, and so we're doing what we can to take notes. But yeah, no phones or anything like that. But yes, Tyler Robinson's family is there in the courtroom as well. And again, it's a very, very small space. And that just adds to how surreal it is because you think about how this had so much impact, not on just the lives of the families, but on our country and the world. And yet here we all are. And it's just a room. It's just a very small room. Can you describe the moment? Because this is the first moment you, Erica, Charlie's parents, his sister, have come face to face with his accused killer. And there was a moment where for the first time you saw this man walk in or you saw his face in person as opposed to what we've all seen on the air. Describe that for us. So the way it was set up was that he was there prior to us coming in and sitting in a light suit there at the defendant's table. And he seems small next to his legal team. And we were standing and a few other people were standing. And I think for a moment, we actually didn't even realize that he was there. And then once we got situated, again, there's so much security or you're being asked to sit down, et cetera. And so we sit down and look over and realize that it's him. And I would say just a very cold feeling came over me. It just felt very cold. And like that sense of cold running up and down your spine and the hairs on the back of your neck go up. And I was glad I had my rosary in that moment. And I look over and I see Erica and I see the parents. And they were there. They were strong. They had grace. They did not flinch. And they sat down and had very stern looks on their faces. And it was very obvious that they wanted to see justice done for what happened to their son and husband. The reports were that he was seen laughing with counsel, that Erica burst out into tears before the proceeding began, but that he, Tyler Robinson, was seen at various points laughing at counsel table with his lawyers prior to things getting underway. Did you see any of that, Jack? I did, as a matter of fact. And it's something that I noted when it happened. Like I said, there's no discussion in the courtroom. So I didn't even know if anyone else had noticed it. And I didn't realize that it had kind of taken on a life of its own. I later found out that obviously it was being reported and had gone quite viral. But in that moment, it was just something that I noted looking over saying, Charlie's wife and his mother are here and they're in tears and you're just going to act like that? Even if your presumption of innocence, okay, sure, but you know that these people lost somebody and you know that there's a human element to this and a human toll. And don't you think just maybe have a little bit of respect and basic human decency towards someone else? And I got pretty angry when I saw that. I'll just say that. It didn't sit well with me. Yes, it makes me feel that he's a true sociopath. You read those text messages, you know, which the police say are his, where he says, oh, it turns out grandpa's rifle really got it done. You know, it works great after he knows he's nearly blown our friend's head off. He knows that he has two little children. He knows he has a wife who loves him. And then when confronted with a family member, members whom he's devastated, he has the gall to yuck it up in front of them with his lawyers. There's something completely inhuman about this behavior. I couldn't agree more. It's inhuman behavior. It's unhuman behavior. And, you know, I was surprised too that no, you know, recognition of his own family that's been there in the room, his mother and father. And, you know, what we know that's come out is that it seemed like they did not have a particularly close relationship. I think he'd essentially been kind of thrown out of the house because of the lifestyle. And that's been in some of the reporting. And I'm sure we'll get more of that when Twigg's testimony comes up, which we expect to come up either today or tomorrow. And but that being said, they're still, they are there. They have been there every single day. And you'd think that on some level, if your own mother was in a courtroom there for you, right, regardless of what you did, you know that your mother's there for you because that's a mother's love and you don't even turn around to your own mother. I just, I can't, I can't square that. That's just, it's something that's so beyond my experience because, you know, even at any time in my life where I've, you know, faltered or made a mistake or anything, my mother's always been there for me. And I'll tell you what, there's the, you know, say what, you know, the media is going to say what they say, but the one person that I never, ever want to disappoint is my mother. It's surprising when you think of even Brian Kohlberger, who murdered four University of Idaho students in cold blood, I mean, hacked them to death with a knife, was communicating with his family in the courtroom, was sort of doing loving gestures back and forth to them, was in regular contact with his mom and dad via phone, you know, right after the murders, he called and had a very lengthy call with his mom, like, managed to maintain a relationship, in other words, with the people who raised him and who actually did show up in court for him. And this guy, yeah, and this guy, nothing. 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