EXPLOSIVE: What Did CANDACE OWENS Know?!

Folks, today is a highly important show. Today, we are going to uncover the real murderer of Charlie Kirk. It's time. We've been working for months on a deep and detailed investigation. It's not who you think. Today, we are going to discuss who was really behind Charlie Kirk's assassination. Candace Owens. This is The Ben Shapiro Show. So we didn't want to talk about this. We didn't. But we've been digging. We have been investigating. We've been tugging on every thread. We've been tracing every single line of investigation to get to the bottom of what really happened. What really, really, really happened. What super really happened with Charlie Kirk's assassination on September 10th, 2025. The story actually begins before that. In the spring of 2025, when Candace Owens, the podcaster, her brand, was having some trouble. She was sued by the First Lady of France. She was hemorrhaging mainstream sponsors. She was losing her stand. She was feuding with pretty much everybody. And then something, something changed. Charlie Kirk was murdered. You remember September 10th, 2025. Her Charlie Kirk coverage rebuilt her audience and drove record merch sales. That's what she said. Not me, it's what she said. And turned her into the main character in the biggest story in America. I mean, here she was in May of this year. We are on track for this to be the biggest day in our merch sale history on the website. I love you guys for actually buying merch just to spite the people that were calling for a merch boycott. And you got to follow how the money is structured. You got to follow it. You got to follow all of it. Just follow it, OK? The revenue from this coverage doesn't flow to a human. It flows through a lattice of corporate entities like Candace Owens LLC and George Tom Incorporated. The kind of architecture you build when you want distance between yourself and the product. And the product by Candace Owens' own on-air admission had its single biggest sales day in company history because of the Charlie Kirk assassination. Charlie Kirk dies and Candace gets richer, a lot richer. But at whose direction? That is the big question. I mean, Candace has a lot of foreign connections, a lot. See, here's the thing. Charlie Kirk, at the end of his life, was going after radical Islam. That was his biggest cause just before he was murdered. You'll remember Charlie saying this. Islam is not compatible with Western civilization. Islam is at odds with all the freedoms that we enjoy. They do not believe in any separation between mosque and state. They do not believe in freedom of speech or freedom of expression. They do not believe in the freedom to criticize the government, the practices that we enjoy so great here in the United States of America. And here's the one thing that's the kicker. You have this axis, again, the red-green axis, this Marxism-Muhammadism axis. What do they have in common? Even though a lot of the Marxists are lesbians or gays or transgenders, they get along with the Muslims. They get along because they hate us. This was Charlie Kirk's cause, right? But Candace had lots of new relationships, lots of new relationships with people in the Islamic world, maybe directing traffic. We don't know. We're just asking questions. But we're not stupid. We're not stupid. Something changed. She suddenly started talking about the magic of Islam. Here she was in March. These terror groups, these Muslim terrorists, for whatever reason, these Muslim terrorists only want to terrorize to benefit Israel. It's so strange. I cannot work it out. If you're a Muslim terrorist, we want to hear from you. Why are you doing that? Right? Why are you stealing and robbing and doing things down in Congo to the benefit of Israel? We want to hear from you. It's very strange. More tips. Can't someone's gone. Hey, I'm a Muslim terrorist and I work for Israel. Why do you do that? You know, weird, isn't it? Right? I mean, like, right? I mean, Charlie starts warning about radical Islam, and suddenly Candace discovers that maybe we've just been misunderstanding Islam this whole time. She literally apologized to Muslims on behalf of America because she says Americans were brainwashed after 9-11 by propaganda, and she didn't even know what a Muslim was. That's what she said. We're not stupid. We're not. She invited Muslim terrorists to reach out to her because, you see, the jihadis are the victims. And if a Muslim terrorist says he's doing it for Allah, well, that's because somebody else wrote the script. You know, probably the Zionists, the Zionists. Hamas says Hamas did it doesn't count. And ISIS claims responsibility. Suspicious. And Iran chants death to America. That's what they want you to think. That's what Candace says. And it's not just about Islam and her newfound magical relationship with Islam. See, Candace developed a really close relationship with Russia. Like, super duper close. Like, go to St. Petersburg and hang out with members of the Putin apparatus. Close. Here she was having a good old time in Russia. She also, by the way, speaking of foreign relationships, developed some weird relationships with alleged sex traffickers in Romania. I mean, right there. You can see it with the alleged sex trafficker in Romania. You know who hated sex trafficking? Charlie Kirk. Hated sex trafficking. Coincidence? Is any of this a coincidence? Not stupid. So this is weird. Really weird. She's in Romania hanging with sex traffickers. Charlie's condemning sex traffickers. And then Charlie dies. The single most important person fighting radical Islam just gets killed. Convenient. Like, very, very convenient. A person who knew Candace really well. Who texted with her regularly. Who would have known what she was up to. Maybe suspected what was happening. And then he just so happens to be murdered. And she starts making money. It's just, that's all I'm saying. Some interesting motivation. You know, that's all we're saying. Interesting. But what about, like, means? I mean, murder requires motive and means and opportunity, right? So what about means? Here's the thing. Candace knew everything. She was Charlie's best friend. Like, his best friend. They were so close. Like, closer than any humans who have ever lived. She was his best friend. Here she was. The day after Charlie was killed. But I don't want today to be about anything other than you guys knowing that Charlie really was an amazing person. You know, he was, like, we were really close. And he was, he was my best friend and my brother. I mean, how close was their relationship? I mean, it may have been for her even more than, like, a brotherly relationship. I mean, let's be real. You don't talk about suspicious. She got married in what is easily the weirdest love story of, like, all time. I mean, she met her husband, George, and she barely knew him. And then they just got married. That's an op, OK? We're not stupid. OK, we're not stupid. That's an op. Candace supposedly attends a crowded dinner party consisting of, like, 30 people. You want to guess who else was seated at that exact same table? Charlie Kirk. Is that a coincidence? He was there when she met her husband. It was at that exact event that she met George Farmer, who was the wealthy son of prominent British Tory peer Lord Michael Farmer. Here was Candace describing this with her husband, George. I sat next to you, and you basically said nothing to me. Correct. I did what I've done for the past six years. I just said nothing. And it worked. It absolutely worked. And then you married me, so I have no idea why. 18 days later, we get engaged. And I called her and I just said, listen, I know this is completely crazy and we've just met, but how do you feel about getting married to me? Just real quick. I missed the bit where there was any sort of... There was literally nothing. Nothing romantic had been said up to this point. OK. I mean, literally nothing. OK, so I missed nothing. We hadn't gone on a date. We had not talked about marriage or the future or anything like that. All right. And I just, and she said yes. Weird. Because, you know, there it is. I mean, does that sound natural to you? That's not like people who just met, started dating, fell in love. I mean, you're telling me that the night they laid eyes on each other and the day he proposed, between those two times, zero romantic overtures, none, no dating, no courting. 17 days later, formally engaged. You're telling me that I'm supposed to believe 17 days from total strangers to securing a multi-million dollar marriage alliance into the British House of Lords into the British House of Lords? I mean, come on. That doesn't just look suspicious. That looks like a strategic corporate acquisition, like big, big corporate acquisition. Like big capitalism at work. What about Charlie? Well, she was acting as his wing woman, you know, like manipulating him in his life. I mean, she openly boasted on air about acting as Charlie's personal psychological gatekeeper and his wing woman. Here she was. I'm going to miss Charlie going on dates and the girl that he liked and me always being the wing woman and him asking. This text message is one of my favorite text messages between me and Charlie when he was getting ready to go on a date. And, you know, he didn't date many people and he was just kind of in love with this girl. And he was asking me, should I wear this? And this is the text message. It's so sweet. He said, do I have to change this shirt? And I wrote back, yes, and throw it away if you can, Charlie. I mean, think about what she's doing there, publicly transmitting to the grieving widow, Erica, that she was the one who controlled Charlie's appearance. She was the one dictating his choices long before Erica ever entered the frame. We're talking classic behavioral markers here, folks. Project a phantom homewrecker narrative onto the outside world to mask your own historical boundary crossing infatuation with Charlie Kirk. We'll unspool more of this in just one second because we need to get to the actual root truth. The actual root truth. But here's an actual, real truth. If you have phone coverage, you need the best phone coverage. And this is why I use PeerTalk. Some people ask me why I've stayed with PeerTalk for so long. And the answer is pretty simple. And something works. I don't spend a lot of time looking for something else. I've had a good experience. 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But Candace also claims she literally set up Erica with Charlie. Here she was saying that the day after Charlie was killed. And of course, Charlie fell in love with Erica. That entire journey to me when I was reading through a text is so funny because it was exceptional. I was always leaning into Charlie's analytical mind and making fun of him. Like, oh, all we need to do is get a plan. You love Erica? Okay, what's the plan? What are we going to do? What's step one? What's step two? And the plan that I came up with instantly was all we have to do is convince her that her last name is terrible. Her last name, oh, she's got to marry you because it's practical. Mrs. Erica Kirk sounds so much better than Mrs. Erica Francie. What is that last name? I mean, this is suspicious, right? I mean, so suspicious. I mean, look at those mannerisms, by the way, like so suspicious. So suspicious. What are we, dumb? Are we stupid? Use some common sense. Candace says that Erica is now some sort of agent of evil, but Candace helped Erica marry him. So if she was so evil, why would you do something like that? It doesn't sound suspicious like at all, like setting somebody up or anything like that. See, here's the thing. Candace knew Charlie's world from the inside. She knew the personnel, the protocols, the security company. She has said on the record that her security team worked with the very men she now accuses. And she can't think of anyone in private security she doesn't get along with. Think about that. Just think about it. Just use your brain. She knew exactly which seams of the story to pull out because she knew all the people involved. I mean, here she was admitting it, just admitting it right out, like it's no big deal. I confirmed this with security inside of Turning Point. There somehow happened to be a leak. And so they can't dispute this. I mean, she's involved with all of this information and with all the people involved, and she knows all of them. And where was Candace when all this was going down? We have no idea. None. Where was Candace in the days before September 10th? She admits on air to memory gaps. She says she genuinely forgot an entire trip to Maine. Just blacked out. Can we believe that? That she just forgets things like that? I mean, here she was explaining just a couple of weeks ago that she just blacked out. She blacked out. What else has she blacked out? What else has she forgotten? I had a baby and I think I blacked out after Charlie's assassination and didn't remember that I went up to Maine too. I went up to Maine with my husband in July, okay? My son was born on May 1st. We were off air. And then the first thing I did was I went with my newborn Roman and my husband up to Maine to do Tucker's show. And I did an interview and I genuinely forgot about this. I genuinely forgot about this. So, I mean, just gaps in the memory? Weird. So, where was Candace in this time? I mean, Candace had two pre-recorded episodes about Brigitte Macron's alleged testicles, September 8th and 9th, but nothing on her feed. September 10th, the day in question. So, we just have like a mysterious missing period. Where was she? Was she wearing maroon that day? We don't know. We don't have any pictures of her on those days. None. Now, as we know, because Candace investigated it, there were a lot of decoys, fed decoys or Israeli decoys or some decoys wearing maroon at Utah Valley University the day Charlie was shot. I mean, here was Candace explaining. When I looked at the footage of Charlie and what happened on September 10th, it struck me as highly unusual that there were so many men wearing maroon shirts. Like it's not exactly a color that men wear all the time. And there were a lot of men, all of whom were alone, I might add, who went to just hear Charlie Kirk speak alone and they were wearing maroon shirts. And I just said to myself, this feels like organization to me. I mean, but what was she wearing that day? Do we know? Was she wearing maroon? Like, you know, a student from Texas A&M? Hell, would she even have been admitted to Texas A&M? And also maroon, Candace? Really? You expect us to just believe they had nothing to do with maroon? I mean, Kanye West collaborated. Kanye West, who she's really close friends with, super close, collaborated with Maroon 5 on a single called Heard Him Say in 2005. And we know, we know that Candace Owens and Kanye West are super close, like super duper close. I mean, like really close. I mean, look, there's Charlie in the background in this photo. I mean, it blows your mind. Like, look at this. Look at this. Kanye West with Adam Levine from Maroon 5, Kanye West with Candace Owens and Charlie Kirk just standing there like a third man, forgotten man in the background. There are no coincidences. How stupid do they think we are? So you got to follow the dots. Kanye West has a song with Adam Levine of Maroon 5. Adam Levine, by the way, is a Frankist. I'll bet you didn't know that. Adam Levine comes from a long line of Frankists and Kanye West just doing songs with them and Candace being all close with Kanye. And then a bunch of fed decoys show up at UVU wearing maroon like a Frankist Satanist would. They'll take moves like Jagger to avoid the obvious here. It gets even worse. For example, look at the wardrobe. Look at the visual staging here during the height of the summer 2025 broadcast cycle. Candace systematically reconfigured her entire on-air presence to feature deep maroon color blocks. That's the exact aesthetic marker she anchored to her theoretical lookalike phantoms. I mean, look at this. What color is she wearing there? That's right, that's maroon. That's maroon. I mean, look at coincidence. Maroon, coincidence. Maroon, maroon. I mean, maybe a little edging on crimson there, but mostly maroon. Criminologists refer to this as rhetorical mesting. That's where the guilty party literally dresses themselves in the fabric of their own conspiracy to normalize that imagery in the minds of the masses. And guys, it gets even worse. I mean, this is nuts. How stupid do they think we are? Do they think we're stupid? They think we're stupid. How dumb do they think we are? See, here's the thing. We know that Candace is technically proficient with microphones, and we suspect that Charlie Kirk wasn't somehow killed by some sort of bullet that magically disappeared. You know, like the coroner's report of the autopsy says. So maybe it was the exploding microphone, but you know who might know how microphones could be rigged that way? Maybe, just maybe, a longtime podcast host who runs her own show. Has Candace ever answered a single question about this? Any? These are questions that require answers. And about her travel. Like, let's look at September 8th, two days before the assassination. Private aircraft depart Nashville that morning. That's the city that she is from. Was she on any of those? We don't have any idea. Any one of those flights could have made a brief stop in Tucson that's 50 miles from Fort Huachuca. We would never know. Tucson is a tactical staging ground. It's the exact location where the corporate aircraft sit before they transition into that black box that is Fort Huachuca. Could that have been a discreet pickup window to bring some sort of unidentified passenger along for some sort of meeting? There are 14 private unscheduled departures leaving Candace's immediate residential perimeter. The mathematical probability matrix dictates a staggering 14.2% chance that her corporate architecture had a body on board. And then what about a cover? But this would require a coverup, like a big coverup, right? I mean, like that's what everyone says when you theorize this. Who would cover it up? Like who would help cover it up? Here's the thing. We know that Candace is skilled in the art of the coverup. For example, public accusations and document trails have emerged directly naming her husband, George Farmer in a high stakes hit and run coverup in August of 2023 involving a victim named Tracy Robinson. Wait, Robinson. Does that name sound familiar? George Farmer hit somebody in his car, maybe named Robinson. How many Robinsons even are there in the world? How many Robinsons like Tyler Robinson have Candace and her husband had contact with? Statistically, something like one in every 600 Americans is named Robinson. But you're telling me, you're telling me, you're trying to tell me that Candace and George are involved in two separate scandals with people named Robinson? That's like the odds of a lightning strike twice while you're standing on top of a volcano. Let's use some common sense here, people. You can't make this stuff up. You can't make it up. The documented profile in that case alleges that George Farmer wrecked his truck while operating at a staggering three times legal limit, meaning roughly 13 drinks over four hours hit that number, all while unlawfully brandishing a firearm. But what happened to that alleged DUI? You didn't hear about that, right? What happened to it? It went missing. And then she just lied about it for years. And we also know because she constantly talks about it that she has tons of high level insider government connections. You want to talk about cover up? Cover up? She's got the connections. Here that is, which came in November, my old tweet saying that I had a source inside of the French government because I did. A high government source actually reached out and made me aware. And this is stunning, actually, that we missed this common sense. I should have figured this out all by myself. So she had the sources. She had the cover up capacity. You're talking motive, money, fame, foreign connections, antipathy to things that Charlie was fighting for and the means, closeness to Charlie's team and friends in the highest places and the opportunity. I mean, where was she that week? Who was she talking to? And let's be real. I've never seen anything more suspicious than Candace's behavior after Charlie was killed. Manic and panicked and weird, bizarre, bizarre. Criminologists will tell you it's been proven. Everyone knows this. The guilty party inserts themselves into the investigation. And Candace appointed herself lead investigator on this murder. Who attacks every single witness who could clarify the record? Who, when asked what evidence would change her mind, has never once answered the question. Now she keeps telling her audience, setting clinical criteria, that you can see deception on camera. You know, like harsh widening of the eyes or a fixed blank stare, a personality that reconfigures for every room. Man, if you watch her show with the sound off, by the very diagnostic rubric she uses to indict Erica Crook's grief, man, she fails. I mean, the lady laughs while describing a murder investigation. She sells mugs in the same breath as wound packing details. What kind of human does that? What kind of human? I mean, look at this. Look at this face. You don't get to ask those questions. What's wrong with you, mom? Why are you so scared? I mean, look at those eyes. Look, the dead eyes, the doll's eyes. Does it look like a grieving best friend? Does she look like a grief-stricken young mother? I mean, look at the kind of earrings she wears. Does a grieving friend wear those kinds of earrings? Those big bangles? Would you wear those kinds of earrings if you were grieving your best friend? In a second, we will get to Candace Owens. Why was she so obsessed with Charlie Kirk? What was up with that obsession? But speaking of obsession, I'm obsessed with Balance of Nature. Balance of Nature products, excellent. I mean, look at this. Here you have the whole produce fruits. Here you have the whole produce veggies. And over here, you have the Balance of Nature fiber and spice packet. Okay, this sort of stuff is what gets me through every single day. Because if you think that I'm downing like dozens of fruits and veggies and the fiber and spice naturally, like without any of this every day, like in its whole form, not going to happen. But I do get it naturally via Balance of Nature because they have a whole health system. 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She's become so hyper fixated on Charlie. She's now attempting to absorb his corporate network to completely replace him. She's spent the last nine, 10 months teaching millions of people that nothing, nothing is a coincidence. And you know what? She's right. Because this isn't a coincidence. None of it, none of it. I'm just asking questions, okay? These are just questions. Now, I'm not saying I know everything. I'm not saying that. I'm just asking. These are questions, okay? Why can't I ask questions? Why shouldn't I ask questions? Am I just supposed to believe what I see? Am I just supposed to look at the evidence? I'm just asking, okay? And questions, we should all be skeptical. What, what? Are you like somebody who just believes what you hear? I mean, like, why won't she release her own travel records? What is she hiding? Listen, guys, you can feel it. You don't need to know what happened to know what happened. Somehow. Why else is she so obsessed? Why, why the granular? Like 100 episodes on this. And there's something else too. You know, like, I don't like to get personal about this sort of stuff. I don't. But this disturbed me a lot. And so I really feel that I have to talk about it. So last night, last night, the angel Michael visited me in a dream. He's carrying a fiery sword. And on one shoulder, he was carrying a boombox. And then the angel turned on the boombox. And the sound of a Charlie Kirk speech came out. And then this was the part that really got me. Beyonce showed up randomly. But was it even random? Because then she started singing the 1998 Destiny's Child hit. No, no, no. I woke up with a cold sweat. Just terrified by the power of my vision. Because here's the thing. I don't know, no. But I know, no, no. Just as Beyonce sang to me. No, no, no. That song was no coincidence. Just as Beyonce sang to me from the dream world. But it's not just dream girl Beyonce. It's sources. Really important sources. I have tons of sources. So many sources. Endless numbers of sources. Sources so important, I can't name them. Because, you know, I'm afraid what might happen to them if I name those sources. I mean, look what happened to Charlie. Like, I don't know what would happen if I name those sources. And Candice is still out there. What would happen to the sources? I don't know. Listen, I'm told by these really important sources that I can't name. And you can't make me name them. This is a free country. You can't make me name those sources. I'm told by those sources that people in her own circle have lots of questions. Like lots of people in her circles. Like so many people. Like maybe all of those people. Like all of them. So, yeah, sure. I guess what I'm saying is maybe I can't prove that Candice Owens orchestrated Charlie's murder or was behind it or covered it up or anything. But if you think I'm stupid enough to believe the story that Candice Owens, a powerful person with deep insider government connections and ability to cover things up, I'm supposed to believe Candice Owens. Well, you think I'm stupid? What are we, dumb? I mean, we're just noticing too many things, you guys. We're not allowed to notice the things. We'll be remembering how she randomly went missing for a few days and how much money she's made and her sudden weird sympathy for Islam and Russia and sex trafficker allegedly in Romania and her deep state sources and her weird marriage story. How dumb do they think we are? They think we're dumb? Is that what they think? That we're stupid? And speaking of stupidly cute, how cute are these bears? How cute are these bears? I mean, these are cute bears, right? They're adorable and they're available for $89.99. And if you want to support our search for truth, we need your help. Buy this bear for America. I'll tell you what, though. I'll tell you what I'm not going to buy. I'm not going to buy the theory. A theory that has no evidence, by the way, that Candace Owens is pushing. The one that Candace Owens with friends in high places and connections throughout the Middle East and Russia and with embedded agents at TPUSA close to Charlie wants you to believe. The story about Tyler Robinson and the Egyptian government and Charlie Kirk and the Zionists and Tyler Bowen and Erica Kirk. I demand a full investigation. Kash Patel, where are you? Where are you, Kash Patel? Where are you? Attorney General Blanche, where are you? I want a full investigation right now. But let's be real. We know. No one's going to do it. No one's going to do that investigation. You can't trust anyone. You can't trust anyone on this stuff except me. You can trust me, but no one else. And sometimes not even me, but really, but really just me. Seriously, no one except me. And guys, I'm just saying, just saying, just saying. If something happens to me, I did not kill myself. I'm just telling you. If something happens, I have compiled all the evidence. I've compiled it all. I put it all together. I package it right up and I've sent it to Lionel Messi and it's in his inbox right now. And I also promise you, I promise, guys, if you stick with me, there will be more bombshells to come. We're not going to stop, not for a single day, not for a single hour, not for a moment, not for a millisecond, not for a zepto second. We're not going to sleep. We're not going to eat. We're not going to breathe until the true perpetrator is tracked down and this crime is solved. I'm not going to sleep. I'm not going to eat. I'm not going to breathe. I'm holding my breath right now. And now still holding my breath right now because we want justice. And we also want you to keep listening tomorrow because, again, I'm telling you, just telling you, if you listen tomorrow, I will have revelations. They will astonish you. I mean, like incredible stuff I'm getting from my sources every single day. These are the kinds of revelations that will stop you in your tracks. Literally, you'll just be walking and then you'll stop walking when you hear them. You'll just be standing there in the middle of traffic, paralyzed to oncoming trucks because of these revelations. And listen, listen, listen, listen, listen, listen. The only person who could possibly get me to stop is Candace Owens herself, because, listen, Candace Owens, she was BFFs forevs with Charlie. She was his bestie, bestie McBestie. And so I have to honor her request. So if Candace asks me to stop, I will. If she asks me to stop, I will unless she asks me to stop. That's what I know. She did it. I mean, no, no, but I no, no, no, no, no. In just a second, I'm going to explain to you what we just did here, like why that stuff all sounded the way that it did, what Candace does every day. In other words, we're going to break it down. 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Why won't you release her travel records? OK, that question presupposes there's something in the travel records. As you can tell, it flips the burden of proof. In an actual court, in actual journalism, in a freshman high school logic class, the person making the claim carries the burden of proof. Just asking questions lets you make an accusation while pretending that you're actually, you know, being an honest truth seeker. And this is the load bearing wall of nine, 10 months of her Charlie Kirk coverage. Why didn't anyone call 9-1-1? Who are all the guys in maroon shirts? Why is there no footage? And lots of just asking questions, each one smuggling in the premise. There's a cover up. The footage exists and it's being hidden. Grief is choreography. She ran on me the other day. What does Ben Shapiro know? That was her actual episode title. So here's the things that I know precisely what the evidence says. That's all the things that I know, because, again, I am not a con artist. Now, one of the best things about just asking questions is that you get to focus on motives. You get to suggest that motive itself is theoretically evidence. So what you do is you say things like who benefit Candace's merch sales. And it sounds damning because it's actually true. She made a lot of money off this stuff. But is Candace Owens somehow implicated because of the fact she made a lot of money? Of course not. By that logic, funeral homes are serial killers and firefighters commit arson. Motive tells you maybe where to look for evidence, but it's not evidence itself. So when Candace points at raises given to Charlie's security team or Erica running turning point or anyone whose life continued after September 10th in any way, that is the same empty nonsense. Life went on for you. Therefore, you wanted him dead. OK, onto E fake evidence in QED fake evidence. So Candace has literally, literally tried to present dreams as a data point on her show, not just her dreams, viewers dreams read aloud as corroboration. I want you to sit with the fact for a second that I did not have to invent the dumbest piece of evidence. It was always in the record. It was already in the record. She did it. Then there's the the secret source. Right. She does this all the time. My version was, I'm told by people in her circle, unverifiable sources, conveniently unfalsifiable. Now, she has a version with a name Mitchell Snow and a lawsuit attached because Snow claimed he witnessed Charlie's security chief Brian Harpole coming out of a classified meeting at Fort Huachuca the day before the assassination. And Candace called him credible, told her audience she verified it and predicted a full confession from the government. Harpole's complaint says his travel records put him in Dallas that day. He's never set foot at Fort Huachuca and that she had access to records contradicting the story and kept broadcasting that anyway. That allegation, knowing falsity, is a is now for a federal court in Tennessee to decide. That's what happens when I'm told by secret sources meet something called Discovery, a daily wire security overlap, the memory gaps. Now, each of these things is like a real boring fact ripped from context and then arranged into a constellation like Charlie Day. It's always sunny style. And that's Candace's entire stick freeze frames of a car interior, crowdsourcing the comments section to identify a bag. Someone will recognize the brand, a widow's face graded frame by frame for insufficiently authentic grief. See, we human beings were pattern seeking machines. Point that machine at 50 hours of footage on the worst day of someone's life. You will find anomalies because reality is filled with weird things and anomalies. OK, finally, fake defenses. D here's where it gets airtight. And I mean, this is an insult. If you ask Candace what evidence would change her mind, she will never answer the question because that's non falsify ability. That's the signature of nonsense. When the accused security chief did not respond to her text, that became evidence of guilt. The so-called Kafka trap, that's where both denial and silence convict you. And then when Brian Harpole did respond publicly on a podcast, that became evidence he's not a private citizen and now he's fair game. Heads, she wins. Tails, you're in on it. And then when one claim collapses, the goalposts magically sprout legs. Charlie was killed by an exploding microphone. No, no. It turns out that he was shot, but he was shot from below. No, it turns out he might not have been shot from below, but he might have been shot from above, but not in the way you think. It was the security team knows Pentagon official. Now it was a meeting at an army base. Now it's foreign intelligence. Every debunking is absorbed as proof of a deeper conspiracy. The deep play. Why has been so defensive? Why is Harpole suing? They must be scared. Now, listen, I predicted that she would do this stuff in writing months ago, not because I'm psychic, but because her playbook has only one page, the escape hatch every single time when it comes down to it. Well, that's just my opinion. It's not a fact. And where there's smoke, there's probably fire, but I have not personally confirmed the fire. So this is called the Mott and Bailey tactic. You spend an hour in the Bailey accusing named living humans of conspiring to murder their friend or their husband, and then you retreat to the Mott. And listen, I'm just a truth seeking, honest mother. Can't I just ask questions? Why can't I just ask questions? I mean, like, is it legal to ask questions or is it now illegal? So, again, QED, fake questions to plant the premise, fake evidence to dress it up and fake defenses to make it unkillable. I built a ridiculous conspiratorial murder case against Candace Owens in two minutes using her own toolbox. And the only reason it was funny instead of like evil is, you know that I was joking. She is not joking. And there is a cost to that. Now, enormous swaths of the country has spent this entire week as a country focusing on its illusional podcaster who is mostly interested in cash and clicks. You know what we haven't spent the week doing, focusing on the matrix of violence created by radical left wing ideology, you know, the thing that actually killed Charlie, an actual human with an actual family. We should have been spending the week fighting the radical trans ideology that left Charlie's dead body. We should have been doing that for like the last 10 months. Instead, we've been spending it debating whether Candace Owens understands how time zones and physics work. That's not just a problem for us or for Candace Owens. It's an existential problem for our society, because when an entire society redirects its attention from true evil in favor of distracting idiocy, true evil continues to grow in the shadows. But here's the thing. There's a real evil that was growing right out there in the open right there, because what Candace is doing is her own kind of evil. The evil of conspiratorial garbage masquerading as fact finding, destroying both brain cells and lives. Because here's the thing. It's not just that Candace's nonsense makes people dumb, although it does. Candace's evil grift has real life costs, real costs. Brian Harpole is a real human who, according to his lawsuit, spent the day his client and friend was murdered, covered in his blood, trying to save his life and has spent every day since being called an accomplice by thousands of strangers. Erica Kirk is a real widow raising two real kids while former friends grade her tears for authenticity. And reports are written about the number of death threats she receives. Tyler Robinson, you know, the person who actually shot Charlie and the person actually charged with the murder, whom prosecutors say acted alone, becomes an afterthought. I mean, hell, Candace has even said she's willing to aid the defense in this case. Skepticism is healthy. Skepticism means you follow the actual facts and evidence wherever they lead. But what Candace is doing is precisely the opposite, deciding where she's going and then calling the drive research. Now, all this is destructive, and that's actually the point to tear down institutions that have stood firm through the worst moments of Western society, to wreak havoc, to sow doubt, to build a following, to gain clicks, to make money. That's the game. The audience is the pawn. See, when you start with a premise as ludicrous and evil as Candace's, that a grieving widow collaborated with foreign influencers and foreign influences and shadowy cabals and members of TPUSA to murder her husband or cover up that murder, or that a foreign leader ordered the hit of a popular conservative commentator to drag us into a war, or that an organization plotted the assassination of the person at the head of the organization to line their own pockets, you're forcing the audience to make a choice. Are you going to reject these insane scenarios or are you going to follow Candace into battle? Once the latter is chosen, you have now opened yourself up to going down the deepest, darkest rabbit holes imaginable. You have let the conspiratorial demons in. You have joined a cult. But can I believe is the evidence being presented before my eyes even real? No way. What is real? Who shot Charlie? Who shot JFK? Are the pyramids real? Are the birds real? Do the Jews control a space laser? Who is out to get me? How is the game rigged against me? And by the way, the last couple of questions, that's the ultimate goal. Demoralization. To teach everybody that everything is broken and nothing is real. You can't trust anything. You can't trust institutions. You can't trust values. You can't trust morality. You can't trust the scientific process. You can't trust anything. There's only one person you can trust. The conspiracy grifter behind the microphone. Okay, that brings us to what actually happened yesterday in the preliminary hearing for Tyler Robinson, the alleged murderer of Charlie Kerr. So it turns out that Erica and Charlie's parents have asked all evidence in court to be shown publicly. So clearly, if they're engaging in a cover-up, it's the world's weirdest cover-up because they want everything to actually be shown publicly, which is typically not what happens when you're looking for a cover-up. According to Andrea Burkhardt reporting, for 10 months, the victim's family has waited for this preliminary hearing. Erica Kirk, the widow of Charlie Kirk, and his grieving parents traveled to this courtroom for one reason. This is their court filing to be present at these proceedings and to bear witness to the evidence concerning the death of their husband and son. At certain points throughout the preliminary hearing, the Kirk family sat in the room while evidence was admitted but not presented for their viewing. They were present in body that denied the very thing their presence was meant to secure, their ability to meaningfully observe the preliminary hearing. And again, they say that they just want everybody to be able to see the evidence. Their filing says, in the absence of transparency, speculation and conspiracy theories related to the tragic assassination of Mr. Kirk will continue to proliferate in the public domain, breeding doubt and distrust in the judicial system, which of course is a reference to Candace and her cronies. Okay, well, Tyler Robinson's defense, they thought that it would be a good time to dig at Erica Kirk and Charlie's parents. And I want to point out to the court, Ms. Kirk has been very adept at holding press conferences at which she has revealed evidence. She has represented that the state is her attorney. She has access to all the evidence that the state has publicized and that the media and her own lawyer argues is already in the public domain. So they're perfectly free to go outside this courtroom under the court's protective order. They're free to go out and hold press conferences and announce to the world outside the courtroom what they think the evidence is. They have the availability of that evidence. But the court's role, I think, at some point is to exercise some control, move the case forward, and especially when we have witness availability problems. And so again, what the attorneys are trying to do on the defense side are basically attack Charlie's family and suggest that something untoward has happened because they're talking about the case publicly. Well, the evidence has been public for quite a while in this particular case. So Tyler Robinson's defense, one of the things you'll notice is that they're not using any of the ridiculous material that Candace Owens has tried to present to exonerate Tyler Robinson because it's just ridiculous and specious. Instead, what they're trying to do is suggest that the Kirk family should not be talking about this case outside of court. But the actual presentation of evidence yesterday in court, and remember, it's a preliminary hearing, this is not the trial, this is just to show that there is a colorable case sufficient to overcome the possibility of reasonable doubt. Okay, so some of the evidence that was presented was Lance Twiggs, who is the trans boyfriend of Tyler Robinson, left a note under his keyboard. Twiggs confirms that Robinson left a note under his keyboard that admits to everything. Do you recognize that on the screen there? Yeah. What do you recognize it as? That was the note under his keyboard that he was referring to in the first text of that chain. So where did you find this? On his desk, underneath his computer keyboard. The note, by the way, read, quote, I had the opportunity to take out Charlie Kirk, and I'm going to take it. And then again, the way this worked was it wasn't a full scale interview of Lance Twiggs, Lance Twiggs instead. It was about a 20 minute tape that was played of Lance Twiggs in court. Well, in the tape, Twiggs says that he talked with Robinson the day after, and Robinson started crying and saying that he wishes he hadn't done it. So he acted erratically. Was he pacing, just sitting down, relaxing? No, he was walking around a lot. And that's within the home. And did he talk about what he had done? Didn't go into detail. He just I just asked him in person if what he said was true the night before, and he said it was. He started crying a little bit and said he wishes he hadn't done it. And then Twiggs said in the tape as well that Robinson said he was going to turn himself in. Of course, you saw the tape yesterday. We showed it on the show of him moving toward the police station to turn himself in and then eventually said that he would talk to his parents or turn himself over. And when you left, was that how you left? Understanding he's going to turn himself in or go to his parents house? Yeah. Twiggs also testified that Tyler Robinson had asked him for a tool to engrave bullets. This is about a month before the shooting. The dremel that you talked about, you said he had asked for that. Is that right? And he told you it was to inscribe bullets. Yeah. And so did you have a dremel gun? Yeah. OK, it was in our like we had a our apartment. We had a section where we kept all our like random tools for household stuff in our like lower basement level pantry. So, yeah. OK. And did you give that to him or tell him where it was? I just told him where it was. Yeah. OK. So Jen was a sergeant with the State Bureau of Investigation explained the photos of Robinson's engraved bullets and what was on them. This is the cartridge case that was recovered from the gun. And what position was this in in the gun? This was the or this is what was in the chamber. OK. And the chamber meaning that's where that's where a cartridge is before it's or when it is fired, correct? Yes. Do you notice an inscription or an etching on this cartridge case? Yes, I do. Will you read what that says? Yes. Notice is bulge. And if we can go down to page two of the exhibit, will you read what this says? O.W.O. What's? And page three. This. OK. And the police also explained the bullets themselves. It turns out that the bullets themselves are soft point bullets. They are designed soft point bullets to expand or mushroom on entry. They're not known for producing an exit wound. So, again, all the conspiracy theorists have been doing this routine. Like what happened to the exit wound? Why is there an exit wound? The bullet is literally designed not to create exit wounds. That is what it is designed to do. The police also revealed photos of Tyler Robinson's text directly on his phone. Remember, we were told those texts were fake. Here they are directly on the phone. According to Fox's Matt Finn, Tyler Robinson, the alleged murderer, was squirming when the rifle and his text were displayed. When they got to the point discussing the rifle that was used, Tyler Robinson was squirming, apparently uncomfortable, swinging in his chair, scratching his nose. He looked uncomfortable with the texts that were being discussed. Now, it turns out that pretty much all of these facts were in evidence within the very first days. And we have not found tremendously new material here. All of this was clear from the very outset, from the very outset. So you wonder how the kind of conspiratorial trash that Candace Owens has been pushing received this much play. One reason, of course, is a big audience. But there's another reason, which is, quote unquote, mainstream figures humoring and echoing all this stuff, whether it's Tucker Carlson claiming that actually Charlie was killed over Israel, or whether it was Megyn Kelly continuously saying for the last 10 months that she is not going to condemn anything that Candace was doing here. So now, now, at long last, Megyn Kelly has said, hey, guys, hey, guys, hey, guys, hey, guys, guys, guys, it's time to follow the evidence, says Megyn Kelly. Oh, is it? Is it now? That's that's fascinating because you spent 10 months saying that you would you would rather die than condemn Candace Owens for doing what Candace Owens was doing. So Megyn Kelly, here she is now following the evidence. Wow. We have to deal in evidence. This is not an OK time for who who might have been on Charlie's bad side, who might have been threatened by Charlie, who might have been mad at Charlie. We have to talk about evidence at this stage. It is time to put up or shut up. And what we see is no evidence, no evidence. That will lead us to believe anyone other right now than Tyler Robinson was responsible for this cause. You know, it would be a good time for her to say that. I don't know. Maybe back in September of 2025. What changed now? And then, by the way, now it's time to listen to the evidence. Now it's time for people to put up or shut up. Weird. By the way, earlier this week, you had Megyn Kelly saying people should leave Erica alone just for this week. Which people? I got to say, it's been it's been kind of crazy to watch Erica have to sit through this and have to deal with all of this. And I really, really wish that the people who have doubts about Erica Kirk would just keep them quiet this week. I mean, you like her or you don't like her. Hopefully the human inside of you can see how difficult this is for her and the family to sit in there and have to listen to this and have to be feet away from Tyler Robinson. And then soon the videotape of the lover and they're removing themselves for the most graphic pieces of the testimony. But they're hearing enough. This is going to be intensely upsetting. And this is going to wow. Has anything else been intensely upsetting over the last 10 months or so? I don't know. But now would be like an amazing time for Megyn Kelly. To, you know, maybe talk about the people who are attacking Erica Kirk. You know, and else would have been an amazing time anytime over the past 10 months. But in that very same broadcast, here was Megyn Kelly when asked directly about Candace Owens is perverse attacks on Erica Kirk and TPUSA and everybody else. She was confronted, unfortunately for her, by one of her own guests on this. And here she was. I mean, I don't agree with Candace's theory of this case. But I have to say, I genuinely believe she was traumatized by watching her. Oh, I can relate to it. And I think and I think she she distrusts authority. I don't agree with her again, Matt. But I just like and I know people have very strong feelings about her. I just do. They think she's in her own search for what she believes happened here. And she has zero trust in official words on anything. Oh, that's what it is. She's on her own journey. Guys, we got we got back. She's on her journey. She's searching for her truth. She was traumatized, which is why it's totally fine for her. I mean, she's a young mother is what Megan originally. She's a young mother and she's not going to say anything about a young mother who is busily attacking a young widow mother. She's not she's not. She's traumatized. Here's the thing. Wicked grifters like Candace Owens can't do all of this alone. They can't do it without a little help from the friends. Megan Kelly, Tucker Carlson, Sean Ryan and the rest of the conspiratorial clown car. But don't worry, the fearless search for truth in podcast to stand continues. What an amazing video you just watched. 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