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AI GeneratedThis podcast episode analyzes the New York Yankees' current struggles, focusing on poor base-running metrics and offensive inefficiencies in specific counts. It features an in-depth interview with manager Aaron Boone regarding bullpen strategy and lineup decisions, while also touching upon a new documentary about legendary player Yogi Berra.
Today is May 9th. We are doing Sharp Stats. We're talking to Aaron Boone. We're chatting
about the Yankees. So let's do it. Let's talk some Yanks.
Hello and welcome to Talking Yanks presented to you by Seat Geek. Code Yanks helps you
out there. It's the midweek episode. Yankees have played one game against the Oakland Athletics.
Everyone is suddenly good. Oakland does that to a lot of teams. We're gonna talk to Boone.
We're gonna talk to Katie Sharp and Jake's wearing his Bader shirt for the hero of the Yankees.
John Boy Media shirt. Go get one at the store. You got a John Boy Media shirt on too, Jim.
James Davis. What's going on? Yeah, a little, hopefully a little A's medicine is what the
need. You know, I was reliving a lot of the one run losses today going through. Yankees are
currently five and six in one run games this year that, you know, you tweak a couple of those and
if we take care of the A's, you'd be feeling a lot better, but it's, let's take care of the A's.
I know we got one booty question kind of around that because it leads into, you know, eight games
that'll dictate the vibes of the next two months between the Rays and Toronto, right? Like if the
Yankees take care of some business at home and hold serve against Toronto with Judge back and
Bader back and Seve on the way, like it can feel different. And that's what we've kind of looked
for all April. And hopefully we get to look back in four weeks and do our, well, that's right.
The Yankees don't care about April and we just need to remind ourselves and not get sucked in
every year. Or if we get punched in the mouth, it's like, my goodness, call up Dominguez. So
excited to get there, Jimmy. Yeah, I'll get through Oakland first. Hopefully everyone stays
hot. You know, my, my sunset award Hicks said, no, I I'm going to Homer. So maybe now perfect
time for a sunset award. Maybe that's what we're about to find out, but no chance in hell.
It was, it was cool to see how happy the bench and dugout were for him. Always makes me feel
like a jerk when you see that and you're like, ah ----, he must be going through hell behind
the scenes and the players and they're like his friends. And obviously he's going through hell.
That reaction was awesome. Yeah. Non-negotiable. It almost gave me like,
Jim, you have a famous non-famous story between us. Hardo young freshman Jake
Storielli was in a slump in baseball. I had just learned what polls were.
And I saw a guy on the varsity team running polls. You run foul poll to foul poll.
He ran polls till he puked. So I told myself if I don't get a hit today,
I'm going to run polls till I puke. I got the worst hit ever, but took it. That's fine.
Didn't run polls. Um, it felt like Hicks said something before the game,
like almost going deep, like almost a genuine, like if I don't go deep, maybe they should
******* come. Yeah. If I don't go deep, that was the reaction everyone had. Right.
Well, DJ with a fist pump. Yeah. He was excited for him. What was that about?
Like normally DJ's excitement is that like, let's go physical. DJ was filled with like joy. Yeah.
Yeah. Do you see the swing Hicks? Uh, he was like, his leg was up early. Like he was
fully ready for that pitch and then smashed it. And I gotta be honest with the wrist injury
and everything we've seen, I didn't know if he had it in him to like turn on a ball like that.
Yeah. Like sit on a pitch, turn on it and ******* whack it. You haven't seen it. I
hadn't seen it in a while. So good for Hicks. Happy. Yeah. Yeah. Uh, we got some sharp stats.
Who's bringing us sharp stats or sharp stats, Jim. Uh, we've got a couple of things that I
can speak very well on today. Okay. Okay. Sony pictures. It ain't over the new Yogi
bear, a documentary, some of the untold stories of the great Yogi. Yes. Uh, one of the greatest
players in baseball history, Jim, not a lie, not a lie. Uh, a lot of people get distracted by the
fact that Yogi was a lot of other things. He was a fantastic personality. He was a delicious human
being. Uh, don't get it twisted. He was one of the best baseball players ever. I watched this gym.
I went to a premier showing, uh, last week. I think it was been busy lately. Uh, it was
incredible. Uh, the emotions were going, you forget some of the big stuff and some of the
little stuff, man. Um, you know, I, I won't give too much of it away, but his return to Yankee
stadium is a very famous day. Um, for a lot of reasons, uh, he's a D day veteran, first generation
Italian American gym. How about that? Loving husband, father and everything else you do. And
you don't know about Yogi. So go check it out. It's in theaters, May 12th in the New York tri-state
area and LA. That's what Yogi's got. Okay. New York tri-state area in LA. Um, so go check it out
in theater near you. Relax, have a snack. I had some, what'd you have? What did I have? I think
I had a chocolatey snack. I've messed it up. I just ran hot the whole time. Okay. Um, so click
out a link in the description, go check it out. It's it's Yogi. He's Yogi. Was he a good bass
dealer when he was younger? Uh, I don't think so. Um, you know, I, okay. Again, not giving too way
too much out of the movie. They, they start off talking about how like, you know,
Yogi wasn't the best looking and he was short and he was kind of silly and you know, it felt like
everyone's head in the movie theater turned and looked at me. Ooh, that's what it felt like.
Looks like his 1951 MVP campaign. He stole five bases. So. And they were ******* meaningful. I
no doubt about that. He did it when it counted. Or they were so not meaningful. Rizzo. They were so
not meaningful. He just walked a second and the other team didn't care. They didn't have
defensive indifference back then. Marked every, I would have loved someone do like,
can someone do a two minute documentary on the birth of defensive indifference?
Like give me like the Ken Rosenthal and uh, you know, pass in or the baseball writers of America
round table was getting boring. He shouldn't get credit for this. Like one guy that all the writers
hated. Some player took advantage of that and just racked up steals and the writers came down
hard on him. You might've quit baseball. Well, if I don't have those deals anymore,
why am I even doing it? It very well might be Yogi. Wow. They liked him. He was a darling. Yeah,
find out in the movie. That's the end montage is that documentary. Let's go right into sharpsets.
Hey guys, it's the queen of stats here and uh, we know that the Yankees offense has been
struggling a lot this entire season and there's one aspect of it that I don't think is being
talked about enough and it's actually probably making it even worse and that's their base
running. Um, this is possibly, you know, maybe it's an effect of the terrible actual hitting,
um, or it's a cause or whatnot, but just want to give you some numbers around their base running.
So fangrass has this all encompassing base running statistic. It's basically turned stolen
bases, cut dealings, other base running plays, you know, such as taking the extra bases being
thrown out and puts that into context, puts it into a number that is either runs below or above
average. And right now the Yankees rank for the season, they rank 23rd in this base running
statistics. So that's all types of base running. Um, and there in that number is about two runs
below average. And for context, the best team is about five runs above average right now.
And the worst team is about five runs below average. The Yankees are clearly struggling
in this area. And it's worth noting that they are below average in all three components and
stealing bases of the other base running plays and then a double grounded into double plays,
which is one of the components. Um, so it's not like they're, it's not like they're doing really
well at one thing or really bad at one thing or that they're just, they're, they're bad across,
across all three components of this base running metric. And in the last two weeks, when judges
been out, you know, and then often has really, really been struggling to score runs. It's been
even worse. They rank 29th out of 30 teams in this fangrass base running statistic. And that's
three runs below average, uh, for the, for the actual number there. Um, and then just a couple
other things I want to know. Baseball referenced, tracked a few base running metrics. Uh, one of
them is extra base taken percentage. So that's taking the extra base. Yankees ranked last in MLB
in this. They had a 35% extra base taken percentage where league average is about 43%.
Um, in terms of outs on bases, we know that's a popular one. Um, they actually are just slightly
worse than league average. They have 10 where the league average is about nine for teams right now,
outs on the basis, but they have the third most outs at home made at home plate. So it just
magnifies it even more. Um, and they actually have the ninth worst stolen base success rate.
Uh, so they're at 74% and the league average is 79. They're not even helping themselves, um,
in that component of base running. Uh, so I don't know, just another thing to take off for the
Yankees offense and how bad it's been this season. Um, thanks Katie, I guess. I mean,
I appreciate the data. Jake, I didn't, I didn't know they were bad at this part of the game.
I wouldn't have said they were amazing. I say Volpe is helping out and maybe he takes like
they're slightly below average, the rest of the team and jumps it up to above average,
but that's not even the case. I didn't know this. I knew that IKF and Rizzo seemed to be out on the
base paths a lot in my head. I, I, but I don't, I don't even know if that's true, but that's what
seems to be. But, uh, I didn't know as a team that they're doing so poorly.
Yeah. Thanks Katie. Um, the queen, uh, okay. Stats, Jimmy, what do they mean? My Bruce Bochy,
my favorite book. Um, there's a couple of things here. Cause I want to go to stolen bases. Cause
right. We've all been enamored with Volpe. Uh, he's 11 and oh, he's, you know, he's kind of been
wherever you stand on Volpe, who he's been on the bases is who we thought, right? Like he's,
he's that good. Um, so stolen base percentage, which is probably the easiest for everyone to
get their rap head wrapped around. You've known this staff for years and it makes sense. Right.
Um, I think you can, you can point to two culprits significantly and it's Glaber and Rizzo. Uh,
Glaber has his five steals. Remember when Glaber got out hot and he was stealing a lot. I think he
was five stolen bases and one caught stealing and he was only stealing when they were up.
We did a little of that. He's now five stolen bases and four costs, which is bad. That's bad.
Rizzo's O for two. So, you know, to butter knife it for pure stolen bases, I think the Yankees are
fine. You just have to understand where Glaber is at. Like, you know, you kinda, you have to
throw a yellow light. Like it's gotta be a good stolen base situation against a team that struggles
with that. Like, remember when we played Cleveland and they like, they forgot that stolen bases were
part of the game and Rizzo. I mean, we've harped on enough, a fantastic baseball player, seventh
percent sprint speed. So the stolen base number doesn't freak me out as much because you can
literally say like, here's your two culprits. Yeah. Um, going from there, uh, the extra base
taken, uh, you know, Katie pre-records me. We did jump the brewers last night. So we're now 29th.
Nice. Uh, it's an upward climb. Uh, that's interesting, right? Cause I guess extra base
taken. Uh, I remember when we used to be enamored with pinch runner Tyler Wade, cause he had some
of the Fugazi stats, but we don't. Is it percentage? Yes. Oh, okay. Cause I was going to
say, I mean, maybe they're just so not used to it. Um, and Hey, you know what might've jumped us
last night? How about having Harrison Bader back? Yeah. Like turn, turn in what, turning what we,
basically any Yankee player we've seen hit that ball last night into the gap as a standup double
Harrison Bader was churning for three. It's his second triple since he's been there.
Like we, we just haven't seen any of that. So, and you know, maybe Volpe gets on a hot streak
and Hey, judge has been out. He's normally, he's a very good base runner and we know he doesn't
push it, but he gets very good reads on balls that, um, yeah, I don't know. It's clearly not
what the Yankees are built on, but you still, you'd like to think we could be better. Like get
second to last. Yeah. And again, I guess, I guess that part doesn't excite me too much
because for that number to truly climb, it would be Volpe starts getting on base a lot
and taking extra bases. Um, you know, Bader goes and you know, maybe we've already seen
a little influx of that judge is a solid base runner, but otherwise it's not how this team
is built. So yeah, but I, what about the outs at home? That seems like something we can ask
because that's, they just love the contact play. And I thought all of baseball was loving the
contact play, but maybe it's not all baseball. It's just them now. Maybe. I don't know. That's
what I'd love to look in to compare the, just like running on contact when you have a runner
at third, no matter what, because that, that came up like Bader got out, right?
Hicks and IKF recently have gotten out on the contact play. Yeah. I think those are the two.
So I don't like that. Yeah. I mean, I'm trying to, uh, do you know on baseball reference where
you can find individual outs on the bases? Yeah. Team stat there. Click the team name.
If you're on the league splits. Okay. Well, I've got the team stats.
Well, if you click the team name, it should give you by player by player.
Yeah. It just takes me back to the normal roster reference page.
Oh, there's a way to find it. I look at those a lot. I'll find them.
Um, what were some of the other Katie Sharp stats there at the outs on the base?
They've been worse with judge out. So they may have been pressing.
Yeah. And that's, uh, that's what ran through my mind, right? Like the whole offense is struggling.
Um, and again, I've, I've started to get a little more hint of hope because
Harrison Bader, we just chalked as league average baseball player. Like he's a guy that could have
a good year. He's a guy that could be hot and cold, which again, we would take that after what
we saw in April from the lineup, uh, plus judge back. But you have to be realistic. This offense
is 26 and batting average 27th and on base percentage. So like, I think they definitely
have been trying to force runs and, uh, you know, Trent going back to the, the Ray's series,
they had two opportunities that were borderline sends, uh, one, they held in the rays, botched
the relay throw one, they sent in the rays, botched the relay throw. Um, so I don't know.
I remember sitting there and being like, Hey, the offense is struggling. And I think, I think
Hicksy was coming up on that first send and they didn't send them. And I was like, Hey, you gotta.
Which I have the player. You go to like, if you're on the 20, 23 New York Yankees,
you just go batting and then click detailed stats. And now it'll be one of those.
So who's got the most outs on the basis. The most outs on the basis is IKF with two. So I
don't know how they're counting that because how many does Rizzo have? They only have Rizzo has
one. So no, that's not caught stealing. Then some sands caught stealing. Um, I wonder if they
combine them. It doesn't seem like they combine them. So not caught stealing, just outs on the
base paths. IKF has two. He also has one caught stealing. DJ has two. He also has one caught
stealing. Um, and then if you go like caught stealing leaders, Glaber's got four and he's
got one. So that's a total of five. Uh, IKF's got a total of six. I think he's going to have
the highest combined, uh, no, no, hold on. IKF's got a total of three. So Glaber seems to have the
most if you want to combine them. Right. The four caught stealings are, oh, and they also don't
include pickoffs, which then IKF got picked off. So he's now two outs on the base paths, one
pickoff, one caught stealing. So he's at four and Glaber's at four caught stealings, no pickoffs,
one out on the base. He's at five. He's at five. So Glaber's five is the most. I'm trying to think
what, um, but what's Rizzo? Cause Rizzo's gotta be rivaling him. Besides contact plays, which has
been a hot topic and yeah, I'm, I'm interested. Um, they've got five outs at home. Outs at home,
not contact infield in plays. What, what jumps out in your guy's head? Have there been any?
I don't know. Like I'm actually interested to see what IKF's out on the base path is,
if it's not a caught stealing and not a pickoff and he's got one. I think it's contact play
one out at home. He's got one of those. So there's one other that he got thrown out at second or
third on like a fielder's choice. Doesn't count towards this. I would guess. Yeah, no. So maybe
he tried to go first to third and didn't make it. The base running could be better. Runners out
while making a base running play out, advancing on a fly ball out, attempting to reach another
base on a hit doubled off on a line drive. That's tough. Or out attempting to advance on a wild
pitcher pass ball. So it could be, that's not like a caught stealing. Yeah. I wonder if it's
the line drive. Cause some of those are bad. Some of those does not include pickoffs caught
stealing or forced plays. They also have the bases taken. Volpe's had the most bases taken
and he has the, uh, but a Franchi Cordero had the highest extra base taken percentage and then
Volpe next and then Cabrera after that, but it's not that high. Yeah. I guess the hope would be,
and I don't know, it's tiered. It's hopefully Vader continues to be good. Um, Volpe get on more.
That's going to cook the book space running wise. Um, and Hey, Oswaldo kind of deserves
a little bit of love. Cause yes, he had a horrible April. The OPS plus is still bad.
He's had two good games and hopefully he can build on that. Yeah. Um, how about him?
Five stolen bases and no caught stealings. Like I don't, I know, I know we talked about that last
time. I didn't, I don't have as well though, as that guy in my head. That's what you said last
time. Yeah. I have them as can be, but it's not his main game. It's kind of, I think maybe he's
more under the radar or I guess that's what I'm saying. He's the second best stolen base guy on
the team. Maybe he's lucky right now. And it's, you know, the league's going to catch up labor
effect will happen where you're like, Oh wow. Labor's running a lot. And then you're like,
okay, let's as Waldo sprint speed. Don't get overzealous. What do you think it is?
I don't know. I don't love sprint speed. How they calculate it. It's pretty dumb.
It's not an average speed. So it gives you a number. Wow. 78%.
Is that, I guess that's pretty good. Yeah. What's like half kind of falafel. Uh, he is
sprint speed. 59th last year in a bigger sample. He was 79 coming into last year. I want to say
he was, yeah. 75th I think was the number when doing PPPs for him. Nice long legs.
Um, get better at base running. I don't know if there's a solution to that besides personnel.
I'd say get on more and then run the bases better. Okay. I'm not going to disagree.
Added to my analytics binder. It's a nice binder. Leather bound. Plastic. It's ripping
clearly. Well, that is the sharp stat of the day. We do have a, our, the Boone banter coming up,
which I'm excited for. Aaron Boone. Aaron Boone brought to you by Vizio. Vizio, Jim. Yeah. I was
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Ooh, wow. It's Boone. All right, Booney. Oh, did you say, I think I didn't hear you unless you mouth
something for me to read your lips as a test. Do you have, I don't know. I was at a test.
Is that what you do? Wow. Wow. Okay. Now we're at it. Shit. Damn. We're on it. Uh,
how you doing? Good to see you. What's up guys. I'm good. How is the turf?
The turf and the drop. That's what I, we're, we're now referring to it as the turf. Yeah. Um,
the turf's the turf at the drop. It's uh, you know, seemed short this year. Tight.
Oh, okay. Yeah. We can look into that. We can, we can get the internet on it or speed.
I mean, it's always kind of fast. It's probably the same exact.
It's a good theory. Uh, I get first hard hitting question. What's the move for judge today?
What's the, what's the move for judge today? I got nothing for you yet. Okay. Yeah. Ramirez down.
Is it, is, is, are you going to go extra batter or will be there be two moves?
We'll have to do two moves, but we got to do the other one and just make sure we're,
we're in line. We got to talk that out a little bit still. So sorry guys. Got nothing. Let's talk
the pitching or the, the, uh, the offense one position position player. You need to talk out.
Sorry. Yeah, we got to talk it out. All right. Who's we here? Yeah. Who's we talking out?
We had a good thing going here. Um, all right. Well, Raza first segment over.
I want to, uh, we, we got a few, we can't have it all. We, we got a few games and segments
lined up for you. Jimmy's got a couple he's really excited for. Uh, I w I want to check
something off quick that, uh, we, we have some theories around it, but I think you,
you can give us the final answer. Uh, as Waldo and IKF, we saw them flip flop third base and right
field, uh, from the turf. Uh, look at you're smiling. You, you already thought we were going
to ask this. So I, no, I was, I was actually no one asked and I was, you know, in Alaska,
I was like, yeah, we were watching the post games cause we're not trying to repeat questions.
And we were a little surprised. No one asked too. And then we went through like a, uh,
like a true detective red tape on a wall theory of our thoughts on it. And, but we,
but we could be going crazy. So, uh, what's going on with the first one and the next, the flip.
Nothing. I just liked it that way in no way you have literally like, um, because IKF had finished
the previous game in right field when Bader came into the game and I just liked it. And then with,
you know, Garrett going, I just liked the same alignment with rolling IKF right back out there.
Cause he hasn't played a lot of, uh, right field, but I just liked that he ended the game,
keep them out there. And then, you know, as we came home, you know, kind of talking on the plane
with Mindy and Louie, it was like, yeah, I knew we were going to go same lineup probably. And I'm
like, should we, should we flip Cabrera and IKF back though? And, uh, and we just literally
settled on yes. And, uh, lo and behold, um, a couple of really nice plays over there, but,
but IKF do you want to hear our theory? But literally it was nothing other than that,
other than I wanted to switch it, uh, yesterday. Okay. Do you want to hear our theory just, uh,
because maybe, uh, you'll, you'll cause maybe you'll get this and you didn't even know. Yeah.
Or you'll get into the mind of the craziness that is, uh, this podcast and trying to figure out
what you guys are doing. Okay. Jake came up with an, I fully agreed with Jake. I was like, yeah,
that's it. Is that you thought you might pinch hit Bauer for IKF because he's not a switch hitter
and it's righty lefty. And at that point, that means as well, Bauer can only play the outfield,
not third base. So instead of making Cabrera move from outfield to infield, middle of the game,
you start IKF in the outfield and that is less moving parts. That's a really sound,
good thought out thing, but no, because I would have, I don't, I don't ever have an issue like
definitely knowing where I was hitting IKF, but that could have been a play last night.
If you get the right, right handed guy in there on the sheet, I could shoot Bauer's
and, and just move, move Cabrera. That's what we thought. I said, if there's a pinch hit today,
we're on debt. Yeah, that, that actually did not. Okay. But someone comes to you on the staff,
Mandy, or someone says, Hey, what about this? And they present what we said. That's not crazy.
You'd be like, Oh, that's a good, Oh no, no, no. That's the kind of things we talk about it. Like,
you know, if there's ever something nuanced about the lineup or whatever,
you know, when we're kind of scrambling over a little bit, like, ah, should we hit this guy
here or here today? Sometimes those thinking out like, Oh, what could we see from a matchup
standpoint? How, what protects us the best, all those things go into that. So yeah, it's,
it's actually a great talk. Good job. I asked him to quote, quote that. And I'll just say,
that's a great thought. All right, next up, we have a segment. Cause you liked our game
at the end of the last show. So I built another game for this episode and it's about, uh, the
bullpen, a bunch of bullpen decisions from the, since we talked to you last. Okay. So the game
is called defend regret debate. We're going to give you three moves. You get to choose one that
you say I defend that to the death. We're not even talking about it. Then you have to put the one you
regret the most, and then you have to choose one to debate and we'll, we'll chat about it. Okay.
All right. The three options are taking her mon out in the ninth at 88 pitches,
uh, with, uh, one, two outs left to go. Second one is bringing clay in for just one out in the
ninth and the tie game when Maranatio was at 23 pitches and cruising. Okay. And the third one is,
um, uh, Cordero stealing outs with Cordero in the seventh when, when King was available. Okay.
Um, all right. I'll defend the her mom one. Um, oh, okay. Um, Rosario is coming up.
Um, if we get him out, I feel like we win the game. Um, I wasn't going to let Rosario stick
one in the gap or get another hit. And then we're all of a sudden in a bad situation. Um,
I love the homes Rosario matchup. Like that was like, and I was like, given Domingo a hitter
at that point to get on. And if, if, uh, if homes gets Rosario out now, we've got,
uh, we're up to nothing runner on. If it's not a double play, it's two outs with, with the three
lefties coming up that I'm confident that he'll at least keep in the ballpark. And essentially
he's got to get one of them out. Um, and I just love that matchup. And in the end of the day,
it's a little soft comeback or to him that, you know, we, we don't make the play on and that ends
up costing us. Um, so, um, and at that point I absolutely, uh, I feel like that was the right
move without question. Okay. Throw it out for now gone. Rosario had to, had a hit on the day
and he had, uh, I think two hard hit like a hundred mile per hour. Uh, to me, to me, that
was one that I was not going to get to with a runner on. Like that was the matchup. I absolutely
want clay makes the play fine. Gone. We'll put that in our rear view. Next up. What do you want
to go debate or regret? All right. Which one was it again? You got clay for one out in the ninth
tie game. Uh, Marinaccio was at 23 pitches and kind of cruising or Cordero instead of King tie
game in the seventh against the Rays. Um, all right. The Cordero one Cordero one week to do
is debate or regret debate. Okay. You have the floor. Yeah. So, so there are a lot of,
so that was going into the seventh. We're at Siri Diaz Franco. We're a little short. I didn't have
Ron that day. We're just a little short at the back end where I didn't want to get Cordero and
Holmes with all their lefties and lefties on the bench still in a bad matchup. If I ran out of
Alex at the end. So yeah, King was perfect. He was on two days rest. Three innings would have been
probably in play, but I also felt like I would have potentially run out of outs and left myself
in a bad spot at the behind behind, um, King. So I, I wanted, um, the, the given of a spot
that I knew I could go through with Cordero knowing I'm going to have King up with them to
clean up that inning and go the two plus, or better yet, if Cordero gets through that seventh
inning with the two righties and the lefty and a Rosarena there, I'm in a good spot. So, um,
that was the calculus there. There was some thought to go into King right away,
but I just felt like I had the lane that I preferred for Cordero and I was going to take it.
The, the counter argument from our side or my side, I guess would be it's a tie game in the
seventh and you got to hold them to win and you got to score to win. So the, the thought process,
I guess just working backwards, you're, you're, you're, you're saving King for potentially the
end. I'm not saying I'm just, I guess the spot that ends up working out for both sides. Cause
if you're going to use them, he comes in when the Yanks are down and now I'll, you know,
fans are saying like, damn, now we're using King on a potential losing day instead of having King
hold it. And then tell the offense, go out there and score a bunch. Maybe you run into a bunch of
with or whoever's coming out or he's running through a bad part of he's running through
worst match-ups and I'm probably not going to get to the end there with King.
And at the end of the day, Cordero gets a fly ball to left and we didn't make the play. Like,
I mean, yeah, no, that's true. I hear you a little bit, but, and, and trust me, there was
us talking about, should we go right to King now? You know, so that's why I debated this one. It's
this one to me, it's debatable. Yeah. Because you talk about how, you know, attacking the best part
of the order with the best pitcher and after Siri, it's the top and King's available. And that's,
you know, you've, you've talked about using play that way when, when he was maybe still using that
way. So then not in our heads, like, well, this is that scenario. It's a tie game. King's the
best available of all the options left and they're got nine and then top coming up. Yeah.
Fair point. Which would leave no regrets. Regerts. Clay for one. Clay for one. And I'll,
I'll tee this one up a little bit. This was after the previous one we talked about Hermann,
he comes in and he gets dinked and dunked from our end. And it feels like you guys have done
this in previous years. And again, you can defend it a little bit, but you will have to regret it.
That's the game. Yeah. You left it in that bucket. Unfortunately, if you don't want to
verbalize it, what was that a little bit with, I mean, was that just kind of trying to get clay
a win? Like if he comes in for that one out, he's feeling good. And instead it ends up looping a
bloop and now it's not the result. A little bit of that. So Ron, that day we went in as,
as kind of an inning. And he ends up going two ups and that would have been his fifth out. He
was pretty efficient. So I was comfortable leaving him in there, but it was also past what we had,
had kind of decided we were going to get from, we're like, let's, let's keep, let's keep Ron
in an inning today. So I already went over with them. I got to straw there with two outs at the
bottom. And, and I felt like just exactly with clay, I'm like, let's get them in now in a matchup.
That's really good. Even, even back to back matchups there or no way. Who hit the blue?
Yeah. I think it was eight, nine in there. And Oscar pinch hits for Gallagher.
Yeah, correct. So I'm like, you know, we're in a pretty good spot here that
especially coming off and just, even though I feel like plays throwing the ball, well,
just the noise around, like, come in, let's get this righty out to end this inning. And then I
know I got them and I preserved Ron where I was a little further than I wanted to go with them
already. So come in, you know, ball gets in the lights and then the blue and, you know, and it's
obviously not a good ending. So, so that one, yeah, probably, probably would have just played
it more straight and said, you know, have Ron finished the inning and let's roll with, with
clay here to start the next inning. And with clay, did, did anything change after that? I mean,
next time we see him is in the seventh inning. And I don't know if that was the, you know,
let's have him get the hardest lane I'm blanking right now. But part of, part of our thought
process a little bit, like with that move is it sometimes feels like clay's first half last year
catapulted him into getting almost like locked down closer treatment, like the same way a
Roldis Chapman deserved to get. And, you know, obviously Mariana or like closers that are like,
this is the closer he's the ninth inning guy. And it was like, well, only half a season where
clay really was performing like that. And in our brains, like we kind of can get away from that.
It seems like in Tampa you did. And is that any, that thought process? I mean,
are you there with us or disagree or. Yeah, I disagree. First off, I'd go back to the season
before too. Well, we got them the final two months and, and, and I'd go to then to last year,
then to hit kind of a hiccup in the season that was a little bit back, you know, shoulder related
to, to fully, I feel like recovering in the postseason. The other thing I would say is I
don't think he has gotten that, that incumbent established long time closer, you know, from
spring training kind of saying, I'm going to put them in situations that I think is the best.
Do I think that's going to be closing out a lot of games? Yeah, of course there was a game early
in the year already where, you know, he was doing well where I brought him in, in the eighth and
people were like, Oh, why, you know, why bring your closer in the eighth? It's like, because I've
said, this is how it's going to be. Like, I feel like we can get, you know, big ninth inning outs
or close out game outs from literally four or five, six guys on our staff. Like I feel comfortable
with it. I am maybe even more inclined with, with clay just to keep him part of that. And,
and whether it's the ninth inning or whether it's, it's the seventh or the eighth,
like putting him in the best position where he set up to, to be successful. And
I think I've gotten more and more to that point, but to a degree, I was there at the start of the
season as well. Is there any thought to this goes with clay and the rest of the bullpen and, and
Caneley's out. So that is a part of this that hurts, but going so to seem heavy with relievers,
right? Like we're picking up relievers and we're getting that to seam or that sinker going
that a lot of them don't have a pitch to get lefties out right now. If you look at the numbers,
you know, clay's numbers against lefties are gaudy. Same the wise ago when he was around in
last year, it's Marin Accio. Cause he's got the change up. Caneley will probably be a great left
guy. Cause he's got the change up. Wandi is a lefty and he's got it. But is there anything to
that? Like it, it almost seems by pitch design, we're almost cornering some of these guys into
splits. You just, you just kind of ran through just a perfectly balanced head. But right now
by clay versus lefties, is that, does that worry you if he's getting like, he's the closer he's
getting the best lane? Like what have that best lane? That's why I want to put them in,
in great lanes. Okay. I mean, so it is, it is, but, but I think the way you talk through that
is like, yeah, we got low who, who has the change up to that makes them really good,
especially when he's rolling against lefties. But then you got Tommy Marin Accio, uh, uh,
obviously one knee. Um, I'm, I'm liking kind of Ian Hamilton against both with that, with,
with his pitch, his numbers are great all over. Yeah. That's effective verse left. So, um, I do
feel like, you know, especially as we get more and more hole down there, I feel like that that's
why I'm not, you know, whenever you guys have asked her, people have asked about like, how do
you wish you had more lefties or yeah, in a perfect world, you have that nice balance of two or three
lefties or five righties. But I'm like, you know, as you just ran off accurately there, I do feel
like we have a very complimentary bullpen of arms that, um, you know, are capable of different
matchups, but it's why I do am even more and more married to just trying to put guys, you know,
in spots where I feel like they're, they can be most successful. And the reality is when clay
gets really dominant, he can, he'll, he'll get both handed out. Yeah. Um, and when Kaylee's
back, it helps a lot. Cause right now there's not enough to lefty attackers. Yeah. But the
bullpen has been pretty good. Yeah. It's been pretty good. The bullpen has been pretty good.
Although I could, if I wanted to, I could say with the Cordero one, which we debated and we
said, it's a friendly debate. If you believe in six or seven guys in the back end, then you could
have gone King it's over. Uh, that was defend regret debate. Boonie, you love games and we
love that about you. Um, we're, we're, we're going to go to some offensive stuff. I think I
want to hit this one quick. Cause Jimmy, uh, Jimmy's our company's analytics department and
he got into some real numbers, but a topic that's been big around our office. We have a lot of Yankee
fans and is kind of going around, especially with judgy back. Is there going to be any
consideration to slide and Volpe down the lineup a little bit? If you know, cause he's there's been
some up and down games at the top of the lineup and with judge and like DJ has been hitting well,
that, um, yeah, there's, there's that conversation seems pretty natural.
So I want to see where we'll see as we get, as we get more and more guys back. Um, um,
that's, that's definitely a possibility, but I think it's also important to see both the last
few days did in some tough luck, you know, it's all the fence to start the game yesterday. Um,
smoke's another ball that third baseman makes a really good play on them. Um, same in Tampa,
I think back-to-back days, he hits bullets to start the game for outs. Like, so it's been a
little bit of that. And then all of a sudden, when you, when you haven't gotten some results
and you smoke two balls and then you punch out, it's like, Oh, it's really struggling,
which I don't really see it that way. Yeah. You just seem like you have enough guys
longer as, as we get more guys back in the mix. Yeah, that could, that could be in play, but I,
I like the, you know, the consistency of his approach and, um, you know, really the consistency
of his at bats. He's taken his lumps here and there. Um, but I also feel like it's going to
serve him well and he'll process it well and learn from all this stuff. Well, um, I've been really
pleased with what he's doing. So it won't be the night, uh, DJs. I'm giving DJ a day today. So,
okay. Um, there's your breaking news for you. Wow. Nice. Uh, all right now,
Boney, I was, I was deep in the numbers and I was at your career baseball reference splits.
Do you know, uh, ask me on pitches in three, one counts. Uh, do you know, uh, any of your
slash line three, one, one, you, a big attack, the three, one pitch. Yeah, I was, I think so.
I would say it's probably pretty good career four Oh two batting average, uh, seven 29 slug
and one dot three seven six OPS. When you, uh, when you put that three, one pitch in play.
Oh, is that good? That's very good. It's very good. Uh, here's the bad news. The Yankees
are horrible in three, one counts the 30th and batting average 30th and slugging 30th and OPS
30th in, um, swinging at fastballs in the zone and 30th at taking strike two looking,
is this an organizational thing where we're not attacking the three, one pitch in the zone?
People make careers off that. Apparently. Yeah. Uh, I was jarred cause I felt like
the philosophy when I was attacker early, I don't hate that. It clearly seems to be,
you know, people are swinging early, but not swinging late at all. And I went and looked at
it and I was like, Oh my God. Um, but then, but then their 10th and swinging at pitches out of
Well, that's going to improve. It's going to improve. And look, I mean, we haven't,
you know, as an offense overall, we were, we're probably in the lower half of the league of, of,
of scoring right now. Um, that's going to change. Um, and with that, you know, you're going to be
able to cherry pick, or you're going to be able to, when you're not scoring a lot of runs, you're
So Bader, Bader got his triple yesterday and that was the third hit on the three,
one count all season. And the first extra basic. So it's, it's, I know you can cherry pick numbers,
but that was a bit jarring. We'll get there. I mean, it's Oakland. You just put the swing sign on,
you know, just like, I can go attack this ball. I'm going to stay at three, one count today. Um,
Yeah. Okay. I like that. All right. The last thing I have is later in the year at that one.
All right. So here's, here's trivia for you to end, to end the show. Unless Jake, you got any
quick ones. Um, what did I have? Uh, nothing too crazy. I just want to double check. It was
Weissert up Peraza down judge off the IL or did we not cover that? Yes. Those are the facts so far.
Okay. Wow. Okay. Uh, all right. So I, this is where that, uh, info stemmed from the trivia of
what count do the Yankees have the most hits on? Do you have a guess? There's no backdoor trick
to this at all. It's just what counts. Um, and this is in the league. No, this is as a team,
as a team, as a team. Oh, no. Oh, I was going to give you options. Sorry. Two, two, two,
um, I'll go one, one, one, one's in second place. 32 hits the two, two count. Interesting. The
Yankees have 34 hits, uh, on two, two counts. Which batter do you think has the most hits in
that account? Two, two Rizzo. Yeah. He's tied. Tied first with, I gave you such an easy trivia
there was three possible answers here. So, you know, they'll get tougher. It was Rizzo,
judge, Glaber all have six hits. DJ's got four, but two homers. We've really put an emphasis on
two, two. Yeah. Yes. That's been, that's when you, that's when you're throwing the swing sign out.
That's right. Uh, yeah. So two, two count. If you see that someone's, someone's getting a big hit
three, one, two, three, one, three, three, one stuff was jarring. And then I looked at the two
Oh stuff. And it was another fastball count. And it was the same thing. It was like all there.
So there's something going on. I let's swing fastballs in the zone on hitter counts.
I hear you. I can send a package of your highlights. If that's what you need to show the
I hear you. Okay. What do all these hits have in common? Hey, we're going to do some damage on
three one this year. Okay. All right. This will be the big turnaround. I'm on the world series
DVD now. And then the podcaster let them know. That's right. Yeah. All right. Thanks,
booty. Appreciate it. All right. Have a good week guys. See you. You skip you too.
And that was bantering with Boone brought to you by Vizio Jake. That was nice. He admitted a regret
silently didn't say the words but said yeah, okay, I was trying to get clay some positive
feelings. It's a dumb sport. Like imagine, like we were saying dumb people will be happy that the
tone was chummy throughout that interview. But you know, getting Yanks manager to somewhat regret
something and admit why like and then have conversations about like even the Cordera like,
it's a debate. And I because I said, you know, but you've said use your best reliever against
the best lanes. And he was like, yeah, that's a fair counter. That's, that's like his answer.
And I think the other thing that's funny is like, just imagine how different it would
have been if they lost to Oakland last night, which was a two to game in the sixth. Yeah,
like, again, like none of that happens. It's baseball. So we did have a lot of our segments
the same way. A better way to go into conversations. I felt that was more
enjoyable. And he's more open when it's like a bantering conversation to actually give you like,
I don't know if we were recording, but before we started told Boone like, Oh, you know,
you liked last week's games. We got more games and he got giddy. Yeah. He got giddy like a school
boy. We got stats. We got games. We're turning into a damn carnival for you. Cause you said
you liked the last game. I liked the what? The, uh, the last game. Oh, nice.
And they will get better in a three, one count. That's awesome news.
That's huge. There's no way he knew they were last in the league at every offensive. No,
but I do think it's funny because you know, Boone has the baseball player side, which we talked
about that. He's like, you, you guys think we're really not going to hit in three, one counts this
year. And it's like, well, you haven't so far. I believe you can. Yeah. You're just like the very
worst, but you ain't, but it's not even that you're not hitting, not even swinging.
Bader's got the only extra base hit. That's pretty crazy. Three, one. Yeah. The other was
Oswaldo Cabrera hit a comeback or that hit the pitcher single and Volpe hit one right past the
shortstop single three hits. It was, and we're cool with the same. I did appreciate that.
You know, his counter there was good that, you know, the offense hasn't been good. So you're
going to be able to find stats that are bad. Yeah. Not that, but maybe let's get those.
Let's start checking identify one that you can maybe let's get the base running a little better.
Katie Sharp talked about that. Let's get the three, one going. Jimmy Sharp talked about that
auto swing. Boom. All right. I think that's the episode. Thank you guys very much for tuning in.
And also thank you to everyone who has tuned into blitz ball battle three. It is our most watched
warehouse series game. The tick tocks going insane. The actually the Facebook views are
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doing burns of the games and then they're doing reviews and thoughts. And then, uh,
you know, Feldman, shout out to him. He's doing post-game recaps, uh, how we do, uh,
Yankees, uh, post-game recaps for blitz ball battle. So you have to pick it up a lot of steam.
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