On this episode of Impact Theory with Tom Bilyeu, we dive into the complex and rapidly shifting dynamics of Japan’s economy and why the entire world—especially investors—needs to pay close attention. Jeff Snider and guest Andre Jik unpack the unraveling of Japan’s legendary economic resilience, explaining how decades of low interest rates created a global liquidity engine now threatening to go into reverse. The conversation explores the cascading impact of Japan’s monetary moves, from the yen carry trade to the unprecedented pressures forcing Japanese wealth to return home. We break down the psychology driving economic decisions, the looming possibility of authoritarian interventions, and why changes in Japan’s bond and currency markets could send shockwaves through everything from US Treasuries to your own retirement account. Whether you’re a market watcher or just trying to understand how faraway headlines can hit your wallet, this episode builds a mental map for navigating one of the most important—and misunderstood—economic stories of our time.
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Japan is facing a critical economic dilemma: stabilizing the yen versus protecting its bond market. With a debt-to-GDP ratio over 200%, the nation is struggling to end decades of near-zero interest rates. This shift threatens the \"yen carry trade,\" potentially triggering global market volatility as capital repatriates from foreign assets back to Japan.
The situation in Japan is getting very weird.
Anybody that's invested is going to need to pay very close attention to what's happening.
It is a complex issue, but it is very understandable.
And so we're going to go through this.
We're going to take things piece by piece and really try to build a mental map for what's
going on.
If you guys don't already know Andre Jik, this is somebody that you're going to want
to get to know.
He is fantastic.
He puts out really good content on very complicated topics.
So Japan's economy is starting to break.
And why that's so important to us is because all of our stock markets and all of our portfolios
and 401ks are partially built on borrowed Japanese money.
And that money is being asked to come back home.
This is like the core thesis laid out really simply.
What ends up happening is you've got post-World War II, Japan absolutely hammered.
Their economy is terrible.
You can't imagine.
Research this phase of Japanese history is utterly fascinating.
But they finally end up getting the feedback under them.
They build up the strongest economy in the world, stronger than the US for a very brief
period of time.
And then they end up just everything's going into real estate.
It's so reminiscent of what's going on in China right now.
And in 1989, it all comes crashing down.
They remember the economy is a psychological game.
So Japan gets their hand burned on the stove.
People just get absolutely obliterated.
They go from like the good times are never going to end to everybody is in dire straits.
And it just absolutely traumatic.
So what ends up happening is Japan tries to re-stimulate their economy by lowering interest
rates.
Now, this is where I'll remind everybody of our boy Jeff Snyder over at Eurodollar who
talks about the fact that what the central banks do is a response.
They're never in the lead.
And nobody has proven that more than Japan.
So Japan tries and tries and tries to stimulate their economy.
And they can't ******* do it.
Almost no matter, literally, no matter what they try, not almost, no matter what they
try, they can't spark inflation.
And so they're just making money as cheap and accessible as humanly possible.
Now, the rest of the world wakes up and starts paying attention.
The rest of the world goes, aha, I'm going to get a spread.
I'm going to get this money at almost zero interest.
And I'm going to put it somewhere that yields, let's say, 4% to 5%.
And they make that split.
And so Japan trying to reignite their own economy for, by the way, this is held for
like almost 30 years, trying to reignite their own economy has created liquidity across the
entire ******* globe.
Now, there was a couple of very interesting tweets that went viral recently.
And here's what they said.
Quote, the measures being prepared by the Bank of Japan will affect the lives of billions
of people.
To the people of the Western countries, I offer my deepest apologies.
This is not a personal matter.
May God's blessings be upon you.
End quote.
That tweet got millions of views.
Now, no one really knows who this person is.
The account goes by the name Yuto.
It posts exclusively in Japanese.
And over the last few months, they've sort of developed a reputation as someone who's
somewhat of a market oracle and a Bank of Japan insider because the things they keep
posting kind of keep coming true.
Okay, this is going to be the most internet thing that he says.
I love Andre.
I think he's amazing.
You guys should all hit the subscribe button immediately.
However, on this point, I think that a little more research will reveal to people that Yuto,
while a very fascinating account, fun to follow, is very sort of internet denizen, getting
people hyped.
I can't remember if Andre addresses this, but I will certainly address this as we go.
There's something called Article 589, I believe.
I'll get you the exact number as we go.
But there's this article, and Yuto's posting about it, and he's like, yo, you guys don't
understand.
Japan's got this secret thing and Article 589, and it's going to come back to basically
force all the money to flow back into Japan.
Okay, very cool from an internet headline.
You guys are going to get content out of this.
But on that, I will say what's going to play out in Japan is mechanistic.
They almost certainly do not have, in their current laws, I'll explain later how they
could go in an authoritarian direction, but the Article 589, which is something that was
really pushed by this Yuto guy, ends up being, when you really look at it, like, meh, it's
almost like 99.99999% a nothing burger.
So I'm going to caveat that Yuto's probably not the guy to worry about.
It creates a nice narrative that gets people to pay attention, says how serious this is.
I don't think you need that.
What's actually going on with the Japanese yen carry trade unwinding just based on the
physics of how money works, which we're going to go through, we're going to show exactly
what the physics are here, but you don't need to overplay this one.
So not wanting to give into the hype, I'll say I'm going to wildly discount Yuto's inclusion
in all of this.
So 12 days after that first post, they posted again, quote, Japan's wealth is returning
to its homeland by any means necessary.
The Bank of Japan has so decided.
All right.
Real people don't talk like this, so let's start with that.
Again, I think this account probably is an insider.
I think they really do have deep insights, and boy, would I like to take Yuto out for
a drink.
But the way that they interface with the world is to be very, not clickbaity, but it's like
they know how to be engaging.
So take these as engagement tactics more than pointing at something truly, like, sort of
hidden and ominous in the background.
I think all of this is existing exactly on the surface.
That post also got millions and millions of views.
And then last week, they posted a third time, quote, Article 589 will be cited far more
frequently than you imagine.
Foreign borrowers should not assume that past approvals guarantee future funding.
A warning to all borrowers who think they can continue to refinance through Japan.
Article 589 is universal, end quote.
I'll explain Article 589 later in the video, because as these tweets were going viral.
All right.
So just speaking to Article 589 really fast, I'll address it more when he gets there.
But Article 589 is not universal.
That's the thing to hold on to right now.
I've looked at this.
There is a research paper that came out about it.
Partly, I'm sure because of this guy's tweets.
So anyway, we'll address it more.
But for now, just know it's not universal.
Japan's economy started to sort of break.
For example, the Japanese yen has gone down to the lowest level against the dollar in
about 40 years.
Japan's government bond yields, a.k.a.
their interest rates, went way up.
And that usually only happens to what are called emerging markets when they're in what's
called a debt crisis.
This should not be happening to the world's biggest creditor country.
Japan then spent 70.
By the way, it is almost self-evident that this is going to happen to the world's largest
creditor, given what has happened over the last six years.
It is just very much not the thing you want to happen because of how systemically important
they have become, Japan specifically, and the yen has become to the global liquidity
pool.
Three billion dollars defending its currency, and they increased their interest rates to
levels that we haven't seen since 1995.
All right, really fast, I'm going to speed run what it means to try to defend a currency.
So what's ending up happening is the yen compared to the dollar is going down.
So you get more yen per one dollar.
That makes anything that you're buying from the U.S. more expensive.
If you're Japan and you basically import everything, that's not ideal.
Okay, so one of the strategies that you have is supply and demand is what makes something
go up or down in value.
So if there's way more yen in the system that people want to hold, now the value of
the yen is going to go down.
So you try to hoover up the yen that's out there that nobody wants.
And so that's what they were trying to do to defend their currency.
Despite spending that 73 billion dollars and raising their interest rates, it did nothing
to help the yen, which is also why.
Okay, and by the way, why raise interest rates?
How does that help the yen?
If the interest rates are going up, people like, oh, damn, I actually want to own Japanese
debt.
And so I'm going to need to get yen to buy that debt.
So if you can make the debt attractive, then people will naturally need the yen to get
in.
So again, you're trying to hoover up the oversupply of yen.
They're now doing something they have never done before in the history of the modern world,
which is that Japan wants its money to return back home.
Why?
Because Japan is essentially being forced to choose whether it wants to save its bond
market or its currency, its money.
So in this video, I'm going to try to explain what all these cryptic messages mean, like
Article 589, what Japan's wealth returning home could mean, why they're passing their
own stablecoin acts, and ultimately what all this means for the United States and our own
investments.
So with that said, let's get into it.
Hi, my name is Andrei Jikh.
Hope you're doing well.
Come for the finance and stay for Japan's economy.
Now, in the nerdy world of economics, they say there's supposed to be two types of economies.
But in reality, there's actually four, the developed, undeveloped, Argentina and Japan.
And that's because Japan has broken every rule of economics and still somehow got away with it.
OK, this is one of the things that drives me crazy.
Not about Andrei.
This is like a lore of the economy that people say never extrapolate something from Japan.
I think it is absolutely critical to extrapolate something from Japan because you find out the
truth of what's really going on.
The thing to extrapolate from Japan is that everything in the economy is psychology.
So yes, it rides on physics of supply and demand.
But supply and demand is an element of human psychology.
What do people want to spend their money on?
Where are they willing to put it?
What do they trust?
It's all human psychology.
Are people spooked?
Are they comfortable?
All of that stuff is human psychology.
And so the culture of Japan is very different than the culture in many other countries.
And so they tend to behave in a slightly different fashion.
But if you just map it back to Japan is either afraid or this is Japan seeking a return and
you've got to have a place where there's real growth.
All of a sudden, even though Japan may move in ways that are slightly different than other people,
they are simply reflecting their psychology.
And when people hand wave Japan away, that's when I know they don't take human psychology
seriously because they're now just trying to look at plumbing or cash flows.
They're not asking themselves, why does the cash flow in that way?
So I think you guys hand wave Japan's difference away at your own peril.
You need to ask, what is the actual underlying thing that drives this?
Human psychology.
And what is it about Japan that's different that will help me map where they're likely to go?
Japan has more government debt relative to the size of its economy
than any developed country in the world, over 200% of GDP.
Basically, that means Japan has more debt than Greece when Greece collapsed.
They have more debt than any country that's ever hyperinflated.
So any textbook would tell you a country like that should have collapsed decades ago.
But Japan somehow did not.
Now, in the 1980s, Japan was what they called a miracle economy.
Because at one point, the land under the imperial palace in Tokyo
was worth more than all the real estate in California.
And then, in the early 90s, that bubble popped.
And Japan went into something that no modern economy had ever experienced,
which was three decades of deflation.
The price of stuff did not go up.
And their incomes didn't go up.
So to fight it, the Bank of Japan lowered interest rates to zero
and basically left them there for 30 years.
Money in Japan essentially became free to borrow.
And when money's free to borrow, a 200% of debt to GDP doesn't really matter.
Because the interest cost of having that debt is basically nothing.
Okay, there's something really important that we have to add to this.
So why is Japan able to have 200, 230 debt to GDP when I've said over and over and over
that 130% debt to GDP is where, if you cross that line, within 18 months,
you're going to be in open conflict, either from a revolution inside,
civil war, or with another country.
And I've always said the only thing that steps outside of that is Japan.
So this is where the psychology leads to something mechanistic.
So the psychology is they burn their hands on the stove when the bubble crashes in 89.
So now they're like, dude, any money that I get, I'm going to use to pay off my debt.
I don't want to take out big investments.
I'm not going to do anything risky.
However, I still need to get a return on my money.
And so Jeff Snyder did a great piece on this,
a little too free form for me to do a Reacts to it.
But he's talked about this.
And the thing that he was pointing out is that everybody talks about the hedge funds
being the real problem in the Japan carry trade,
that they're the ones that are taking out money and going out globally.
He said, yes, they do it.
But the reality is this is really driven in terms of a volume play
by the actual pensions and insurance funds in Japan itself.
They're all seeking a return.
Now, why does something become inflationary?
And how does that matter with Japanese pension funds and insurance funds seeking return?
The only time you get inflation is when you have more money
chasing the same goods or fewer goods.
And what ended up happening in Japan is you didn't have the money chasing the goods in Japan
because what ended up happening is the money that people were borrowing,
they weren't spending in Japan.
They were going out to where they could get a better return.
So as the cost of the debt went down,
more money left Japan to get that return because they couldn't get it off of Japanese debt.
So now all that money is leaving.
It's competing for foreign things outside of Japan.
So the cost of things in Japan didn't experience the inflation.
And that's why they can have so much debt to GDP
because that money isn't staying local, competing for local goods and services.
It's leaving and competing for things like U.S. debt.
But given how much U.S. debt was printed, you could stop that from being inflationary.
You could get that money, but you could just constantly keep printing new, new, new, new,
new, new debt, which means that basically you don't have more money chasing fewer goods.
You have more money chasing more goods.
And so that also ends up not being inflationary.
And so that's the big deal where the money is just leaving Japan, leaving Japan, leaving Japan.
And so until COVID hits, they don't have anything to stimulate the inflation.
That's so important to understand.
This is the part that people often gloss over is,
how on earth can Japan be the one exception to this 200% debt to GDP?
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He's daisy chaining these things in a way that risks being a little bit confusing.
So I'm going to draw a line.
What he's into now is of the debt that Japan has issued,
it's largely owned by Japanese people.
But of the money that was borrowed, that was sent out via the yen carry trade,
that has left Japan.
So the dollars that would have caused the inflation, that goes outward.
And then the debt owners of Japanese debt that would panic,
which is what he's addressing now, are Japanese people.
And so they're less likely to have that same skittishness.
While the rest of the world spent the last 20 years printing money,
Japan did not.
Since 2004, the U.S. money supply grew by about 280%.
Canada grew by 370%.
But Japan only grew by 90.
Japan was the only major economy in the world that kept its money relatively scarce
and its interest rates at zero.
That combination created something called the yen carry trade.
Now the yen carry trade meant if you were a hedge fund or a bank or an investor,
you could borrow yen at 0% interest, convert it in dollars,
you could buy basically anything in the world that paid you more than zero.
Meaning you could buy U.S. treasuries paying 4%, 5%.
You could buy tech stocks, Bitcoin, anything you wanted.
And you made free money.
That's estimated to be worth trillions of dollars of investments all around the world,
funded by borrowed Japanese money.
So Japan was like, we want to get in on this too.
So Japan took its savings overseas because for 30 years,
there was nothing worth buying in Japan.
Japanese pension funds, insurers, banks, households,
they all shipped their money overseas to get some of that interest.
And in the process, Japan became the world's biggest
foreign holder of U.S. government debt,
holding something like over a trillion dollars of U.S. treasuries.
Japan's pension fund, for example, the GPIF,
which is the biggest pension fund in the world,
holds hundreds of billions of dollars in U.S. bonds and stocks.
So think about it like this.
When the U.S. borrows money, when tech stocks go up, when Bitcoin goes up,
there is a strong chance that somewhere in that process,
it was partially funded by Japanese money.
But remember, this only works because interest rates were zero.
They are no longer zero.
Japan's interest rates are going up.
And because of that, the economy is starting to break.
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So here's how Japan's economy is starting to break.
Remember that 0% interest rates were only possible
because the circumstances that Japan was in,
a.k.a. the prices in Japan, never went up.
Which means when inflation is zero,
you can keep your interest rates at zero forever
because everyone's happy.
The government can carry infinite debt for free.
The world can continue borrowing cheap money.
Everyone's getting richer, and no one's complaining.
Okay, so then what changed?
Why did they have to raise their interest rates?
That's because of something that happened in 2020.
That was the pandemic, which led to trillions and trillions of dollars
flooding the market.
So I know I've said this before, and I will say this again.
People are underestimating how cataclysmic
our response to COVID was.
The fact that we shut down the global supply chains
is absolute insanity.
The fact that we money printed to high heaven
is absolute insanity.
And we are still experiencing the ramifications of this today.
And this is, man, just everybody needs to have their eyes wide open
about what we consider an appropriate response to something
and what we don't.
The COVID response was moronic in the extreme.
There were broken supply chains, right?
Energy prices went way up.
And the whole world got inflation.
By 2022, Japan got 2% inflation for the first time in decades.
So the Bank of Japan was like, okay, we've got some inflation.
What do we do?
All these other countries are raising their interest rates
to fight inflation.
Oh, look, the US raised interest rates to 5%.
That's a lot.
Europe's doing it.
Canada's doing it.
What do we do?
I know, let's not raise our interest rates.
We also have 200% of debt to GDP.
Let's do nothing.
Let's not rock the boat.
Japan held their interest rates at zero
and hoped that inflation would go away.
That decision started to break their money, the yen.
Because think about what happens
when the US pays 5% on cash and Japan pays zero.
What happens is money continues to flow out of the yen and into dollars.
There is no demand for yen.
So the strength of the yen collapses from around $1.10 per dollar to $1.50, then $1.60.
That might continue working if the country was self-sustaining, right?
But Japan almost has no natural resources of their own.
They make arguably the best culture in the world, right?
The best food and Pokemon cards.
I personally love Japan, but they don't make their own oil, right?
They import almost all of their energy and all of it is priced in dollars.
So a collapsing yen means everything that Japan buys from the world
gets more expensive for them, which means more inflation,
which means more pressure on their yen.
And all of that pressure eventually leads to the biggest change
that economists thought would never happen to Japan.
That change was a change to their psychology and culture.
What does that mean?
It means people now want a pay raise.
You see, for 30 years, Japanese workers never really asked for pay raises
because mostly that's a Western idea.
Because their prices never went up.
So why would you need a pay raise?
0% inflation froze Japan's need for pay raises.
But once inflation started to happen,
workers started demanding those pay raises and they started getting them.
In fact, they got the biggest pay raises in over three decades.
And once wages and prices start chasing each other higher,
it's really hard to sort of put that genie back in the bottle.
But then things started to get worse
because the world got this oil shock from the war in the Middle East,
pushing energy costs even higher.
And they got a new government in Tokyo that wanted to spend even more money,
meaning they wanted to issue more bonds, aka more debt,
at a time when they already have an insanely high debt to GDP.
This is one of those times where I think the war in the Middle East
is being used as a justification for,
yeah, I mean, listen, we've got to start raising rates
because, I mean, look what's going on there.
Japan certainly does import all of their oil.
So they are way more exposed to that than the U.S. is, no doubt.
But I've said many times my thesis on the fact that oil prices
have not gone up nearly as much as people were expecting.
So, yeah, that's going to be part of it.
But it's going to be a drop compared to COVID.
So now Japan is at a crossroads.
They have two options.
Option number one, keep rates at zero,
keep their high levels of debt manageable and watch the yen get destroyed.
Watch inflation eat their retirees' savings.
Basically watch a country of savers get poorer every single month.
That option could eventually lead to a revolution.
So you have option two, increase interest rates to save the yen.
Now, picking option two means that 200% of debt to GDP,
that starts accruing real interest.
The bond market that's been asleep for 30 years starts to wake up.
The Bank of Japan, remember, owns half of those bonds.
So they'll start bleeding losses on their own balance sheet.
They need to start paying interest on their very high levels of debt.
Now, there's no third option where everything stays the same way that it was before.
So the option is save the currency or save the bond market.
OK, choose one.
Now, what's interesting, though, is that Japan actually tried an option three
where they increased their interest rates just a little
and they intervened a lot and they got the worst of both worlds.
The yen started going down and bond yields started going way up.
So both markets, their money and their bond market broke at the same time.
Let me show you what that breakage sort of looks like.
First, I just want to say that this section is going to get pretty complicated.
So stick with me because the end of it, it'll make a lot more sense.
But let me start with their money breaking, the yen.
As I'm making this video, the yen is trading at about 160-ish yen per dollar,
which is also the lowest level that it's been against the dollar in about 40 years.
And the last time this was happening, Ronald Reagan was president and Nintendo had just come out.
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It's like JP Morgan are saying that 164 yen per dollar is kind of like the magic line in the sand
where Japan will supposedly not allow the yen to fall past.
As of today, we are very close to that line.
And depending on when you're watching this video, it could have already crossed it.
So that's how their money's breaking.
But now let's look at how their bond market's breaking.
In 2022, Japan's 10-year government bond paid just a quarter of 1%, very small amount.
Today, it pays about 2.7%, which is more than 10 times higher in just four years.
The 30-year bond is at about 4%.
And I know that those numbers seem small compared to U.S. interest rates.
But remember, this is a country with over 200% debt to GDP.
Every one of these percentage points applied to a debt of this size
is a huge amount of money in interest.
But Japan also has a weird paradox that's happening.
Last week, two things happened in Japan on the same day.
The first thing that happened was inflation came in at 1.6%, which is good.
It's below the Bank of Japan's 2% goal.
That happened for the fifth month in a row.
The second thing that happened was the Japanese stock market went down over 2%, which is bad.
That was about 30 trillion yen lost.
And bond interest rates went up too, which is also bad.
This is the opposite of what should be happening.
Normally, when inflation comes in low, bonds typically do well.
Because low inflation means the central banks can relax.
That's how it works in the U.S.
But in Japan right now, inflation...
I'm going to say that a little bit differently.
Low inflation means that if you lock in a rate with a government bond,
that you're not going to end up losing money.
Because what people are always protecting themselves against,
if rates are going to go up, then buying a bond at today's rate becomes less valuable.
Because as the rates go up, people are like,
I don't want to buy that one off you in the secondary market.
You're getting less of a return than I can get on one that's being issued today.
So I'm going to go get one of those.
And this actually ends up being a key part of understanding all of this.
Part of it is, why is money leaving Japan?
Why are the Japanese insurance companies, why are they sending money out?
If you don't understand that,
you won't understand why they're having such a hard time defending the yen.
And that's going to get into real opportunity.
But I'll talk about that in a second.
I want him to finish this.
Inflation looks like it's under control.
It's under target.
But interest rates are still going higher, which is not good.
Why?
It's because Japan's bond market is not trading on inflation anymore.
It's trading on a scarier question, which is, who's going to be buying all these bonds?
Correct.
Right?
The government wants to spend more, but the Bank of Japan,
which is the buyer of last resort that owns half the market,
they're trying to spend less.
Investors are looking at the supply and they're demanding to be paid more to hold it.
Right?
Because it's more risky for them.
They're like, I don't care what inflation does.
Pay me more interest.
This is why the world's investors are betting against Japan with huge amounts of leverage.
Check this out.
You're looking at 18 years of hedge fund bets on the Japanese yen.
This data comes from the CFTC, which is publishing actual disclosed positions by big hedge funds.
What this chart is showing us is that when this line is above zero,
hedge funds are betting on the yen.
They think the yen will go up.
When it's below zero, they're betting against it.
So the lower this line goes, the more money is shorting the yen.
Now look at where we are today.
We're all the way down here, right?
This is around negative 150,000 contracts.
In dollar terms, it's roughly 11, 12 billion dollars of bets against the yen.
But that's only what's visible.
Most currency trading happens in private deals between banks that never show up in this data.
So I can't show you that because we don't have it, but this might be just the tip of the iceberg.
So what they're all doing right now is they're borrowing yen.
They're shorting the yen because they're assuming Japan is helpless to stop this.
The Bank of Japan sees all this, and what are they doing about it?
Well, they tried to fight it.
In April and May, Japan's Ministry of Finance spent 73 billion dollars buying their own currency,
the yen, and it worked for about three weeks.
The yen went up, and then it went back down again.
Then in June, the Bank of Japan increased rates to 1%, and the yen went down anyway.
One economist said that doing this while your economy still runs on cheap money is like
tapping the brakes while keeping your other foot on the gas.
Here's an important part that people have to understand about this.
Okay, so if it's true that your big problem isn't the hedge funds betting against you,
your big problem is that the money is leaving Japan because they're all pursuing returns.
The problem that you run into is the way that the interest rates work in terms of spurring
people wanting to own Japanese debt is if they know that rates are likely to go up again in
the future, they're not going to buy today.
So you get this very counterintuitive, inverse reaction where you say,
hey, we're going to raise rates that you would expect then people to flood in and say,
oh, thank God, finally, this is moving in the right direction.
You guys are doing the thing that you need to be doing,
and so I'm going to come in and buy that debt.
But instead, what people do is go, oh, really, your rates are going to go up.
They're going to keep going up.
Fantastic.
Then I'm going to wait until I think that that phase is over so I can get the tippy top because
I don't want to buy somewhere on the way up, and then it keeps going up.
And now my midpoint valuation ends up going down in value because nobody wants to own that
because rates have gotten so much better.
And that's where the Bank of Japan, ironically, is like creating a problem for themselves
in this moment by raising rates because people are going to sit back and wait.
So when you're trying to defend the yen by making sure that you hoover up all excess
availability, one of the ways you're going to do that is by trying to get people in to buy your
debt.
And so they would need people to be confident that the debt isn't going to keep going up
so that they can come in, start buying that debt, and then stabilizing the yen.
But if you don't have that, you've got a problem.
And so then the bigger question becomes, why don't you have that?
Why are people not confident that putting your money in Japan is the place to be?
And that's where we get into the psychology around what's really going on.
What's really going on is that people are seeking a real return, a risk-adjusted real return.
And when you start looking at the risk that people have to take to put their money somewhere,
what they're saying is, putting my money in Japan on a risk-adjusted basis,
you guys are very up in the air right now.
I don't know which way you're going to go.
I don't know if you're going to be able to defend the currency.
I don't know if enough people are going to come in here.
Also, I don't know what the return is going to be.
The return has been terrible in Japan for the last 30 years.
So when I look at a risk-adjusted return, I'm basically anywhere other than Japan.
And so Japan is in this weird quagmire of,
you've got to get people bringing money back to Japan.
But the only real way to do it without force is to make sure that your economy is growing
in a way where there's real risk-adjusted returns.
Now, name me the hardest thing in the economic universe to do.
The answer is, get a real rate of return, a real risk-adjusted rate of return.
It is one of the most difficult things to do.
You've got to become the hot place.
You've got to be the country version of AI.
You've got to be the thing everybody's like, yo, I got to be in Japan,
in the way that people are like, I got to be in AI.
It's the thing that's growing.
People have to believe that Japan is the hot place to be.
And so the question becomes, what are they going to do to make it the hot place to be?
And right now, I don't know that Japan has an answer for that.
And as long as Japan doesn't have an answer for that,
they're going to be doing this like tic-tac-y bullshit of trying to like raise rates.
But again, if Jeff Snyder is right, and I think that he is,
that what the banks do, the central banks do, is a response to something.
They're not actually leading the charge and getting somewhere.
Now, they can drive inflation up in certain environments,
like with COVID, by printing at a time where the available things to buy is going down,
and injecting the cash in a way that is likely to be spent.
But barring that, like actually getting real risk-adjusted rate of return
is a totally different ballgame.
That's about growing your economy.
And so now the question looming over all of Japan is, can they grow their economy?
They're not using it because Japan has figured out
you cannot defend your own currency by buying it.
Every intervention is just going to feed the short sellers more fuel.
So if Japan wants the yen to actually go up and strengthen,
it does not need to buy the yen.
All it has to do is change where the money lives.
And that is why Japan's policy is for its wealth to return to its homeland.
So there's an official word in economics for money returning back home,
and it's actually called repatriation.
And here's how we know it's happening.
Because for the first time in a generation,
Japanese bonds are actually paying something.
The 30-year bond pays about 4% right now,
which means for the first time in 30 years,
a Japanese pension fund or insurance company can now
look at a Japanese government bond and say,
hey, maybe we should put our cash here instead,
where we get a guaranteed yield at home in my own currency with no exchange rate risk.
It's making sense for Japanese money to return back home for the first time since the 80s.
Now, on July 10th, the Japanese government made an announcement about this.
The finance minister of Japan said she wants the GPIF.
That's the Government Pension Investment Fund,
which is the biggest pension fund in the world worth $1.8 trillion
to start moving its investments away from foreign assets and into Japanese assets.
Now, that fund holds roughly $230 billion of U.S. Treasuries alone,
plus hundreds of billions of dollars in U.S. stocks.
The government was like, okay, guys, time to bring it all back.
And what happened then was the yen went up and their bond interest rates went down.
The biggest drop in a month.
That's what they want.
So now every Japanese insurance company and every bank and every institution,
they're watching what the government told the GPIF to do.
And now they know that this is a sign of what is coming.
We can already see them start to move their money.
Check this out.
This is data from Bloomberg showing Japanese life and casualty insurance companies' purchases
of long-term Japanese government bonds.
For most of the last two years, you can see that these bars were negative.
Insurers were what's called net sellers of Japanese bonds.
But look at the far right of the chart.
The last bar shows the biggest buying in three years.
The insurance companies just flipped from being sellers to being the biggest buyers in years.
Now, if you're looking at the chart, though,
you'll see that it wasn't that long ago that they bought even more than this.
And the real question, there's a dark question looming over all of this,
which is what is Japan going to do to compel them to buy it?
Because if the real thing that people are seeking is risk-adjusted returns,
real returns, real growth, and you are Japan and you're saying,
hey, we've tried some things, they haven't worked,
but now we're going to get the money back.
This is where we go back to that Yudo tweet from the beginning where he said,
the money's going to return to Japan by any means necessary.
And so now the question is, how dark is Japan willing to get?
Is there going to be simple stuff like, hey, it's a real shame you didn't buy more government debt
because now we have to audit you?
Or is the government going to actually penalize?
Or is the government going to go all the way to,
if you're a government pension fund, you must bring your money back home no matter what?
And we will legally pursue you if you don't.
That's essentially the guns strategy.
Are they going to go all the way to that?
Because remember, the thing that these guys are actually pursuing
is risk-adjusted rate of return.
And if Japan is going to force them to repatriate their money
and not give them a risk-adjusted rate of return,
the economy is going to have a different problem,
which is everybody putting their money into Japanese pensions and insurance funds
aren't getting a risk-adjusted rate of return.
And so now the economy is suffering from that.
All the people playing the long game trying to save
are being forced to save in something that is far worse than them.
These are the kinds of capital controls that you see from places like China
where you've got authoritarian top-down control of the economy.
So will Japan end up hurting itself trying to defend the yen?
That's where this is going to get very, very interesting, very fast.
But it's very high risk.
This is a very high-risk strategy if they're not able to get growth.
Now, hold on.
Where are they getting the money to buy their own treasuries then?
The answer is U.S. treasuries.
By selling U.S. treasuries, they get dollars, which they convert to yen.
Their yen gets a buyer and their bonds get a buyer.
And the U.S. assets, they get a seller.
And this is where it becomes a U.S. problem.
Here's how all of this is connected back to the U.S.
Remember, for decades, Japan was the most reliable customer at U.S. bond auctions.
They were the number one foreign holder of U.S. debt.
And now our biggest customer is not buying our debt.
In fact, they might start selling a lot of it.
Fewer buyers means—
By the way, remember that China's also selling your debt as fast as they can.
The U.S. has to do what to get new customers?
The U.S. has to offer higher interest rates to attract new buyers.
That is partially why interest rates are expected to go up here in the U.S.
Which creates a problem for us,
because we also have to turn over like $9 trillion in debt this year.
And if you look at the most important U.S. treasury bond, the 10-year bond,
which is what sets our borrowing costs as consumers to buy things like 30-year mortgages,
you'll see that right now it's paying about 4.7%, which is close to all-time highs.
That's not good.
Part of why that's happening is because a major foreign buyer of our debt is stepping back.
So even if you might not own any Japanese assets,
your mortgage rate is partially set thanks to Japan.
Now hold on.
Doesn't this sort of upset the U.S.?
I think it might.
That's maybe why Japan wants to build its own intelligence agency
for the first time since World War II.
Maybe that's nothing.
Maybe that's something.
Maybe this is why we're seeing all these cryptic tweets about apologizing to the West, right?
Okay, if you're in Japan, there's a problem with your plan.
Because Japan does not control what investors do with their money.
Yet.
So what if the money doesn't want to come home?
What if foreign buyers or borrowers just keep rolling their cheap yen loans forever?
Article 589 is how they'll make sure their wealth comes back home.
I'm not going to go too in-depth with Article 589 because there's no confirmed policy.
There was no official statement other than that anonymous account.
So we should be skeptical.
But Article 589 basically says a lender cannot charge interest on a loan
unless the interest was agreed to,
which essentially allows Japan to have a little more control over where their money's going.
So that's one way they're forcing the wealth back home.
The second way they're doing it is through incentives.
Okay, so really fast on 589.
Let me see if I can pull this up really fast.
So if you dig into this in terms of what 589 actually is,
it's related to transportation contracts and standard pre-contracts.
So if you look at the official Japanese law translations,
it confirms that Article 589 contains no special central bank recall powers
or carry trade reset mechanisms.
That's basically the narrative that a lot of people are pushing.
He's being wisely skeptical of that,
and obviously this is one of the things that makes Andre great.
But on that, the more closely I look at it,
and I won't rule anything out because Japan could get totally authoritarian,
but when I look at this,
it's so confined to a really specific obscure part of the economy.
I don't think it gives people the play that they're thinking it gives.
I have a feeling Yudo is just reaching for,
if he's like a super, super insider,
somebody may have floated it at one point.
I doubt that's going to come to fruition,
or it could just be him grasping at what are some mechanisms that they could use.
At the end of the day, if Japan wants to be authoritarian,
they'll be authoritarian.
They'll find a way to do it.
They literally control the guns in their country.
So there is always that option.
But I think whatever pressures they put on people,
589 is a nothing burger.
On July 20th,
Japan passed something that's being called their version of America's Clarity Act.
This is far more interesting.
Remember, he's talking about incentives here.
So how are you going to get people to want to bring money back?
Which means crypto in Japan is now legally recognized as a financial asset,
which also means Japanese banks can now hold those assets.
Now the crypto bros are like,
yeah, XRP and Bitcoin's going to the moon.
Why Japan is actually adopting crypto has nothing to do with trying to pump crypto.
It has everything to do with incentivizing capital to return back home.
And even more importantly, it's a system for them to buy back their own bonds.
With dollars in U.S. treasuries.
So if Japan were to run something similar and say,
hey, you guys can do things like stable coins,
but you're going to have to back them one to one with yen in the form of government debt.
For example, one of the ways they've incentivized crypto is proposing tax cuts from 55%
where Japanese crypto wealth stayed offshore,
down to 20% where it might come home onto their regulated exchanges.
Hey, look at that.
Lower taxes and you get more of something.
In yen, in their tax system, right?
They're giving those people an incentive to return the wealth back to Japan.
But even more importantly, they are using crypto as a means
to offload their debt onto the world and their own companies.
How we know this is because here in the U.S.,
stable coin companies have become some of the biggest buyers of U.S. government debt.
And Tether is an example of this, right?
It's a company that is the biggest corporate owner of U.S. treasuries
because every single digital dollar that they issue
has to be backed by something safe, one to one, like U.S. treasury bonds.
So Japan is looking at this U.S. model and they're like, we got to get in on this too, right?
So this will allow Japan's stable coins to be backed by their own government bonds,
which means now they'll have a buyer of their huge amount of debt.
I hope all that makes sense.
If it doesn't, press the J button on your keyboard and watch it again.
But OK, let's say that all of this is true and this works exactly like Japan wants it to.
The yen starts going up, right?
Proving all the short sellers wrong.
What happens to the U.S.?
All else being equal, here's what happened to the markets
when the yen got stronger throughout history.
Check this out.
You're looking at 30 years of the yen versus the dollar.
The gray bars are official U.S. recessions.
And every red part here is when the yen got stronger relative to the U.S. dollar.
Here's what happened.
In 1998, the yen went up 15% in just three days.
What was happening at the time was a collapse of long-term capital management,
which was a hedge fund blow-up so big the Federal Reserve had to organize a rescue.
And at the center of that problem was an earlier version of that carry trade that was unwinding.
Then in 2008, the yen goes higher all year long.
That's the global financial crisis.
Every borrowed yen bet in the world was starting to unwind.
Then 2011, record yen high, peak global fear.
2016, Brexit, same thing.
March 2020, COVID crash.
Yen goes up while everything else in the world was being sold.
Then August 2024, the Bank of Japan increased interest rates by just a little, a quarter of 1%.
The yen went up and a part of that carry trade started to unwind.
And in one day, Japan's stock market went down 12%.
By the way, the reason that the yen is going up when people panic is because
they borrowed so much money in yen, they've got to pay that debt off back in yen.
So they borrow in yen, but then they buy something else with U.S. dollars, let's say.
And so now they've got the currency exchange risk.
This is part of why when things get unstable, people start unwinding.
Because they're like, I don't know what's going to happen.
I could end up underwater.
So I don't want to be underwater.
So I'm going to unwind my yen carry trade.
But that means I have to buy yen.
So as people buy yen to pay off their debt,
there becomes competition for the available pool of yen, which makes it go up.
But this is also why the yen doesn't stay elevated for very long.
If you're actually looking at these bars, they're massive spikes.
So they go up and they come back down.
And so it's these very temporary things.
What Japan is looking for is a nice, stable, strong currency.
They want to get rid of all this jagged up and down.
And that's why I say this is all going to come back to,
can Japan create a risk-adjusted rate of return in Japan?
If they can, everything's going to be wonderful.
If they can't, they're going to have to accept that the yen is going to go down
or that they're going to have to force people to bring their money back.
Force.
Whether that's legally force, penalty force,
or hey, you're going to go to jail if you don't force.
It will come with force.
So that's where this could certainly get dicey.
The worst day since 1987.
And the U.S. stock market went down 3%.
Millions of people here in the U.S. watched their portfolios lose money that day
with no idea what was happening.
Nothing happened in the U.S., but something was happening in Japan.
So basically what we know is that every single time the yen got stronger really fast,
it meant that markets somewhere in the world were starting to break.
Now to be fair, the yen going up is not what causes these things to happen.
It's usually the other way around.
A crisis happens, the borrowed yen trade unwinds, everyone buys back yen,
and the yen goes up really fast as everything else goes down.
So the yen is kind of like a proxy or a measure for how much global leverage there is,
how much money borrowing is going on.
Now today, obviously the yen is not going up.
It's a very weak money.
It's having a hard time going up, partially thanks to the world betting against them.
But what makes this time so different is that in 1998, in 2008, in 2020, 2024,
the yen going up was not intentional.
But this time, a stronger yen is the plan.
So all the things we talked about in this video, like the repatriation, the rate increases,
article 589, all these rumors, all of that looks like that the goal of Japanese policy right now
is to make this line go up, to make the yen stronger.
What happens next is anybody's guess.
That's our boy, Andre Jik.
Man, if you guys haven't subscribed, again, do that.
He's fantastic.
You will love his stuff.
The big thing that is going to have to be answered is just can Japan grow?
If they can't grow their economy, nobody's going to make any money.
They're not the hot place to be.
Money is not going to return to Japan.
It's that simple.
And that's the part that a lot of people are overlooking.
And without that solve, the only thing left is force.
All right.
Until next time, my friends, be legendary.
Peace.
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