Aaron Boone Shares What's Most Impressive About George Lombard Jr. | 1397

Today is August 11th. Booney joins the show and some breaking news from the farm. Hello and welcome to talking Yanks. Thank you very much for joining us today. My name is Jimmy. His name is Jake BBD producing fanatics sports book, presenting Aaron Boone, joining on today's episode. We also had breaking news. Jake, you want to tell them the Columbus Clippers changed their name to the Scranton Wilkes-Barre rail riders, and now they're going to change their name again. We don't know to what Yankees Triple A team changing their name. They were the Scranton Red Barons when they were Phillies, and they became the Yankees when they were the Yankees. Then they redid the whole stadium. And I believe that was judge was on the team then. Well, maybe it's earlier than that, but they won the championship and they never played a home game. So they were just always on the rails. And they made the name the rail riders. It was a fan vote. Then the finalists were the rail riders. The porcupines blast black diamond bears, black diamond bears, fireflies and trolley frogs. Trolley frogs and and rail riders one porcupines came in second. So that's why their logo is a porcupine riding the rail, which is also a nod to Scranton being named the electric city. Watch the office because they were the first city to have a functioning electric trolley streetcar system. And now they will be named the Scranton Berries. We don't know. That was a guess. I guess you should say that the Scranton Wilkes Berries. I never I've seen that logo a bajillion times. Never once knew or paid attention. If you said, what's the rail riders logo? I had no idea what is a porcupine. I had no I think the color scheme is awful. And they botched that. Yeah, I think maybe that's why. I think after this, the revolution of minor league teams came with the bright colors and the fun stuff. And they're like, man, we're excuse to bright. Yeah, brighten this thing up. Yeah. Maybe they got turned down by the Yanks and couldn't go too bright. So this is like the best we could get you. Yeah. Color scheme wise. Had no didn't know that was an animal. Yeah, I never. Wow. I didn't know. It was like talk about that. Stated. And it's like a train tracks that he's like running on, which I never noticed either. Just found out there's train tracks. Yeah, it's a porcupine riding the rails. Maybe Boone. Let's go to Boone. It's the first thing we ask him. Now, it's a lie, but here he is. Former ex Yankee joins the boys for the latest warehouse challenge video where Joe's McFly made me laugh a couple of times. Here's the preview. These six people are all claiming to be MLB players. What I feel like I know you. Number four, most recent time you've ever played pro ball. Look at everybody else's glove. They're all pitcher gloves. Number six, are you the big leaguer? Smart, smart, really good. You don't want to eliminate two. We can't eliminate two. We might have let this go a little too far. That's out now on Warehouse Games YouTube channel. It's a Yankee in one of those masks. Welcome to Bantering with Boone presented by T-Mobile. Doo doo doo doo doo. What's going on, Booney? Good morning, guys. Oh, how are you? How was your off day? Uh, good. Good. Laid low, mostly. I had something I had to do last night. Wappingers Falls. Oh, where's that? Upstate New York? Uh, kind of close to Poughkeepsie. Oh, I might have said that name wrong, too. I think you did good. No, you did great. You did great. Nailed Poughkeepsie. I don't know if I nailed. Oh, Wappingers Falls. Yeah, I'm unsure. Yeah, we got a thumbs up in the room. So you did good. Did you watch any baseball last night? You like that play, the bizarre play? Have you checked in on that with Toronto and Boston? So funny. I was on my way home and Matt Blake, uh, texted awesomeness. And I, you guys watching this Red Sox game? I'm like, no, I'm on my way home. And, uh, but I was following the score and he goes, yeah, the Red Sox just left from first and third, this is before the appeal and you know, they are whatever doubled off. And then, and then he goes, oh, and now they're appealing. And I'm like, oh, before I even, I was like, oh, I bet he scored. And they, yeah. So crazy. That's what we talked about. Um, I know we talked about a couple of years ago in spring training, the fourth out thing. So we run through some different rules, scenarios and stuff. And that's, that's a crazy one. Yeah. I've been, cause I'm making a video on it. So I've been deep diving through like history of baseball. How often it's happened. Yeah. And the fourth out comes into play a lot now with challenges because in case the challenge overturned before that, this happened a good amount. There's one in 1989, same exact play. There's one in 2009 between the Dodgers and the Diamondbacks. But I feel like teams weren't getting that fourth out before challenging. The scoreboard one is interesting as a player and as a manager. Now, did you have like a trusted scoreboard or not? I know that they say, don't trust the scoreboard, but it's human. But, but, but there is a level that you do, um, you know, like, I mean, I think almost all the time, you know, the outs and obviously the base coaches are there to, you know, kind of roll through that just kind of as a matter of fact, all right, two outs, dah, dah, dah, dah, dah. Um, so I guess it's possible that everyone could have got confused. We've had a couple of situations this year on the mound with the, with the counts, you know, like not being correct, you know, one, two, two, one. And I know it's, it's messed with some guys and that's why we're over there constantly going to one or, you know, so more, it happens with the count every now and then, if you see the wrong outs up there, usually you'll somebody's yelling to can, you know, with the umpire, like, Hey, two outs, right? Cause you are looking at the scoreboard too. So I think if I can see how it happened, but you know, if a run scores on the last play, there's, there's some way. Cause what happens is if all the not, if all fielders get the foul territory, you cannot appeal. So I wonder if there's a way you have the first base coach or the third or no, not those you have, you have two guys that like, aren't leading off, you know, whoever made the last out, I stay on the field until we tell you, you can leave on our run scoring play. Cause if one or two players stayed on the field in fair territory, they could have still appealed, but once they all go to foul territory, they can't, you got to designate a guy like you're between the lines until we tell you. We need to designate. Yeah. Get ready, Brad. Awesomest. Um, let's wrap up some umps before we get into Yanks. Uh, Saturday turned into one of the bigger ump shows of the year a little bit, uh, when, when you see that start happening, does that change anything in your guys dugout? Do you say anything to the coaches, the guys, do you have a moment where you're staring at Walt Weiss? Like, Hey, do we, are we all good? Like, I don't know that Michael K was laying it on pretty thick between the Bach and Caballero getting the first and everything else that was happening. Well, what are you asking me? Um, if you see a, an umpire and umpire crew that seems like things are getting off the wheels a little bit, do you, do you start operating differently? I don't, I don't think so. I mean, look, every game and human interactions like its own new thing. Like, so it's hard to, hard to say. I didn't necessarily feel that way. Uh, Saturday, you know, obviously, you know, the Bach happens, you know, they get ejected, um, and then we had some issues, so, but I don't know if it really changed much, you, you have those moments in the game that you maybe grab your ire or get you ticked off or whatever, but one thing I did say, I said, you know, when they started arguing with the Bach and it was a long time before they got a run and sale never got ran, I said, I said, no way I would have that leash right there, you can't argue a Bach, you know? And so I was trying to have some fun with that passive aggressively. Well, people forget. He called a phantom hit by pitch on Spencer Jones Jones. He didn't even say it hit him. So he umpire Dan was, he was doing a lot on his own, just kind of on the lookout for the second call the in-between play calls because the Bach as well, sales, like he declared that he was going to the windup and then a new batter happened and he, he, he just didn't declare again, but sales says I've never like if the, if the runners don't change, I've never had to re-declare what was then when nobody was on right after the run, sales said, I'm going from the wind up. Yeah. I'm like, we're now he's passive. Yeah, it was a lot. And then obviously Caballero getting a pitch clock violation at 11 seconds. I saw your post game press conference where you really didn't want to get fired up about that. I don't know if you're in a better state of mind to chat about it now, but it's that's crazy. The only one I have stands back on is the copier running the first 26 seconds. That's a bit, that's long. I feel like when you're, when you're engaged in an argument, I don't know. I know, I know. It's just funny. That one is like cabby being like, which I think maybe was deserved. Yeah. You got a new shortstop skip. Yeah. Uh, give us some stuff on the kid. Lombard's been awesome. Yeah. I mean, I think what you've seen is it's, you know, uh, you know, tremendous defense he's played so far. Uh, I feel like really competitive at bats. Um, just, just a great kid, great makeup. Um, great love of the game. Like that's always stood out about him, like how much he, um, loves and appreciates just, you know, the, the, all the stuff that goes with, you know, being a good player that is not always sexy. Like, you know, I, I feel like it's very hard to not like love it and to be great, to be great and not love it. And loving it means a lot of the non sexy, non big league things that go into being really good. He's he, he checks all those boxes. Sometimes kids get called up and you can tell the game speeds up on them. Obviously it's only been a handful of games. Um, but he seems to have a poise. Like the game is still at his speed, even on, you know, he fielded a hot shot ground ball, a worm burner could have had a bad bounds. It didn't. And he just did it as calm as you can be. O'Neal was like, Hey, that's it. That's a routine play, but he made it look easy. And Cole said, it looked like he feels it in his sleep. And then even the at bats, you know, some big walks, uh, presence of mind to challenge both those pitches. Like the game doesn't feel like he's come to the majors and the game speed is different for him, which has been cool. And I mean, that's what we've always known about George's, you know, the, the makeup side of things has been always been excellent to glove. We've been watching that from my standpoint, the last two spring trainings. It's like, man, what's been impressive to me the last couple of spring trainings as he's obviously developing as a player and like year to year getting more physical, you notice him becoming just more of a man and like, man, he's not only a great athlete, but he's very physical and you've seen that development over the last two springs, but watching him in spring training play defense. And then like I could throw him at any position and it looks like played it his whole life. Um, and now, you know, I think he's gotten a lot better as a hitter this year too, where he's always kind of had that control, the zone you could tell is going to have pop. Um, but, but I think the hit tool has continued to develop for him this year. And, um, you know, that's been very encouraging. Do you have any kinship, like any relationship, um, kind of like unsaid bond to kids that grew up in clubhouses, obviously you come from a baseball family. Is his dad a big leaguer and coach, you know, around baseball, not only like your dad played, but your dad was in the game post career. Is there any kind of like, I don't know, something that goes into personality trait or just the way I still think everyone's different, you know, everyone's different. Um, you know, I think there's no question that that's been something that's, I think that have been very beneficial to George. It was, I think, very beneficial to me growing up the way, the way he did, the way I did, but, but again, everyone's different. And, and, and at the end of the day, like it's, it's about between the lines and, and that guy's 60 feet, six inches could care less. So, but, but there's no doubt. Um, you know, George senior, you know, has, has had a profound impact on, on his boys and, and help him prepare them for this life. One more quick one. If you had to choose which play of his you, uh, like the most, are you going to double play in the hole or you go in the diving stop up the middle, or is there another one that you like? Probably the double play. His first defensive play as a big leaguer. Yeah. You know, cause he didn't really, you had to go, so you had to range a little bit. So it wasn't a perfect hop to get. And then, you know, to turn that over was, I think that was my favorite one so far. All right. We've seen Wells, uh, turn it on for a month or so. Uh, OPS and the nines, the strikeout rate is down. The facial hair's changing. Uh, what, what have you seen from Wellsy? That, you know, even going back to, you know, I feel like I've been saying it for a while. Since he came off the IL, I felt like right away it was a little better. It wasn't, wasn't getting much results. It wasn't great, but I felt like I was seeing something different in, in, in just his gather, his load is getting ready to hit that I thought was better. That I was like, okay, let's, let's keep building on this. And I think slowly from that he's, he has, and he's gotten back to being more of that threat that he should be. Um, so, you know, it's, we got to keep that going, you know, cause, uh, you know, obviously we need all hands on deck to, to, you know, continue to move this offense in a better place. So, and he can be a very important part of that. His, um, you know, trying to dive into all the numbers that we have available to us now, which is overkill, but just, I always like to see if there's any mechanical difference, like swing speed or, or, uh, length of swing. And that stayed the same for him, but what's been like jarringly different. And I don't know how to, um, figure this out is the attack angle of his swing. So I've never spent a lot of time on like attack angle, but obviously we know up down flat. Um, it's just been going up. So it started 11% and going up to 18%. I don't know. Like, do you, do you look at that? Do you want, do you have any? I don't get into, I don't get into the weeds like that with it, but I think that's a result of, um, I think of his pre-pitch, um, of his load of his start getting to a better place so he can fire more properly. Um, so it's probably, that's a result of that, in my opinion. Yeah. I'm interested to see some swings at the different angles and kind of the results. Cause I've never really dove deep into that one, but. What about the facial hair? I think he's in a conundrum right now where he's got to figure out, is he having success because he's constantly changing his facial hair or is the mustache and the clean shave underneath it? Like, is that the reason for the success? And I'm interested to see how he, how he plays it out. Yeah. I mean, you know, we're working through that every single day, you know? Um, no, I think when you're Wellesley and if you were to shave your entire face, you know, his grows back in like nine minutes. So he can, uh, he can play with a lot of different things on a daily basis. This episode is sponsored by Shopify. Starting a business used to mean figuring out everything from scratch, infrastructure, fulfillment, analytics, all of it on top of actually building the thing. That's changed. Shopify is the whole platform. And now with Sidekick, Shopify's built-in AI co-founder, you've got a business expert running in the background, analyzing sales trends, generating reports, setting up discounts, keeping the catalog organized. The things they used to require hiring extra people. Sidekick handles automatically. So whoever's running things can stay focused on the work they actually care about. It's been with JM Jamboy Media from the start, 10 years now, uh, from having one shirt in the store to now thousands of shirts in the store. We've got new collections dropping all the time. Our new glitch collection is sick. A couple of new player shirts on the Yanks you need to check out. Maybe you like that new guy at shortstop. Um, it's all on Shopify. Uh, and if you are someone who wants to build something that's truly yours, start your free trial at shopify.com slash Yanks. Let's go, uh, beat reporter mode for a minute. Uh, Belly, Rodan, Judge, what, what other injury updates do you have? Uh, Belly's getting close. Um, Rodan is we'll throw again, uh, I believe Thursday or Friday. Another rehab outing. And then we'll see from there. Um, and then judge, uh, judges, you know, continuing to, to start that ramp up process. Does Rodan throw you a little elbow and he's like, Hey, you know, actually, you know, freed was going to do one more. And then you guys just said you can do it up here. I'm I'm here. Let's, let's let it go. Apples and oranges. Oh, okay. That thing sounds fruity. That was a, in Max's case, it worked out because it was like, Oh, we have a double header, so we need the starter. We get the 27th man so we can protect the innings. So it, it kind of lined up just perfectly. Um, you know, so Carlos's situation a little bit different. Okay. We expecting rain. Yeah. A little road on rain dance. I don't know. We'll see. On Stan, you quoted as saying that you, you guys started the introduction to some basis. Now, does that mean like he's standing at first base and you're depressing pickoffs and then he's going back to first base, but he's not running the second. No, I think just some light base running. Oh, I was hoping for it to be cooler code. Oh yeah. But Bellinger has not started base running yet. Uh, but belly belly feels closer though. Um, okay. That's good to know. Yeah. Cause he's sweat belly swinging on the field. We saw him catching balls in the outfield. Yeah. He's doing agility. So he should probably get, you know, he's, I would, I would expect that intensity to be pretty good this week. And then I would think we'll probably get them into a game or two before, uh, bringing them with the upcoming stretch. You're facing all righties. I mean, obviously there's, there can be scratches and there can be changes, but if everything stays how it's supposed to, you're facing like, I don't know. It was like more than 10 righties in a row. I think it's even weird stretches, man, where it's, you know, like, yeah. Isn't it crazy how, how it's like, you know, facing nine of 12 lefties. And then we're now in this stretch. It's been interesting. Is there any of the righties you think you prioritize still getting reps like Rosario and Goldie, you can fire them off the bench and that's kind of there, you know, that's a great, that's a great thing to have off the bench for bullpens. Um, but I was looking at, you know, Ramos Caballero, you're kind of strapped in the outfield, like the Ramos or Caballero right now is playing every day. Yes. Um, so, uh, but I'll probably mix in Caballero, you know, somewhere, you know, with the day game after night game or, um, you know, Rosie could get in there. You never know. I mean, just, I don't have anything planned right now. You know, it kind of, kind of worked day to day. With Wellesley, he just tied the record by Gary Sanchez for most consecutive starts in a row, uh, as a catcher. Um, it was seven or seven, I mean, since Gary, so not that, maybe nine, but you had a day after night, you had a tough lefty in sale, so you're riding the hot hand here in a way, and at a position that isn't even really ever like fans aren't going to demand it because it's catching position, that's a tough position, but what goes into that? I mean, are you talking with the coaches? Are you checking in with Wellesley and you're just saying, you know, with the day game after night game, we had had the off day on Thursday. So it was really just a back to back and that's, and it was a three o'clock game, but it was Garrett and I like having, I like having Wells with Garrett. Okay. Um, not that I won't put Ali with them, um, here alone out of need. We're going to have to, but I do like doing that. Um, so that was, that was that it was three o'clock game. We had the off day Thursday with an off day coming on Monday. Um, so yeah, I wanted them in there with Garrett. How are you guys seeing Trenton center? Cause some of the defensive metrics don't, don't love them. We've seen them deal with some lower body injuries, I guess. How are, how are you seeing it? Or how's the team seeing it? Yeah, I mean, mostly good, mostly really reliable. Um, you know, I think not at the gold glove level from a few years ago. Um, but I think some of that is because, and like even going back to last year, like there were, you know, a couple of plays in Sacramento, which is kind of the wonky minor league park where the wind's blowing and there was a stretch where he's kind of playing through that hammy where he's, you know, had the governor on a little bit and had to. So you get dinged with some gappers that fall that are really, really moved the needle. So I think that's hurt him a little bit. And then there's been a couple of those gappers that he hasn't hit, but I trust him exclusively out there. I mean, he is, he's really good at it. Um, he's made some great plays out there. Um, but he's, you know, to, to get to that, you know, in that gold glove conversation, you gotta, you gotta consistently kind of make those separator plays that, you know, those gappers up against the wall that you got a long way to cover. So I think overall he's been good. Um, and, and, you know, like have a lot of like confidence as we move forward of, of him and center field, like he's, he's just really kind of pro at it. Something interesting that I was looking at is he hasn't played left or right as a Yankee. Is that correct? Is that something you feel like you don't want to do or you just, he's the better center fielder. So he's in center. Like, have you thought about, uh, flipping like him and Jones at all? Jones is fastest on the team. And Trent right now grades out as the slowest center fielder in the league. Not, not that, that you can be slow and play center field. Most people are fast, but that's not a thought at all. No. Is he center field only? Like, would it need like an adjustment period and testing? There were times in, uh, let's see where I had him working out there a little bit in 24, um, just, just to have it. Um, but no, I feel like he's, he's our best center fielder. Okay. So when he's on the field, he's going to be in center. Okay. Uh, another guy that I was interested, what your thoughts are on what's happening, if you think something's happening or just circumstance, but Tim Hill, ground ball specialist, they've been getting the ball in the air on him a lot this last month. I think it's six home runs in the last month. Some lefties have hit home runs. It's just much different than we've seen of Tim Hill. Uh, anything you're seeing there, as far as approach in the handedness pitch mix, or I think there were a couple outings there, maybe a few weeks back where, you know, I didn't feel like the stuff was quite as sharp. You know, I feel like he was kind of working through some things delivery wise, um, that I feel like he kind of is corrected. Um, but right now, the couple of times I feel like he's, he's given some up is, is he hasn't gotten the pitch to the right spot, you know? So I do feel like, um, delivery wise and mechanically he's in a better place. Now, now it's about that last layer of execution of getting, getting the sinker, especially to, to the spots he needs to get it, you know, especially against the lefties to make sure he's getting them on the ground. And I think, look, I think, you know, kind of the evolution of the hitter too, and how they train and how they, you know, understand movement qualities and things and, you know, certain guys trying to clearly get underneath the ball and, and stuff like that. You know, those we've evolved a little bit there. I think hitting wise against, against unique quality pitchers, you know, whether it's a guy with ride or, you know, or in Timmy's case, the, the different angle and the sinker. So some guys are training probably better for it, but, but ultimately it comes down to him just, um, if he's getting the ball where he needs to get it, he's, he's going to put people on the ground, especially the lefties. Staying in the bullpen. Chevy looked really great, uh, besides his last outing. And then I know, you know, he was pretty taxed and bullpens been taxed, but are we looking to get him back up when, when the timing allows it? Yeah. I mean, he's, he's, he's definitely in the mix and, and do feel like we got a good one down there and in him, um, if something happens or if, you know, we want to recall him at that time. So, um, you know, I think that one outing obviously was rough, but it was probably partly a product of, of how much he had worked recently. So, um, you know, he's got a little bit of a reset down there. I think he's only pitched twice since he's been down there, which is probably good to kind of, you know, help with that workload. Um, but I feel like he's gotten a lot better this year and, uh, he's certainly in the mix moving forward. How do you pronounce his, how do you pronounce his name? Chevy? She VG. Yeah. That's what we say. CBZ. Wow. CBG. There was twice. I heard you. And then I heard Meredith say it on the broadcast. And I, I thought I'd hit the SAP button or something. We had, uh, the do guys. Um, I'd love to get some color on them, but, uh, two plays that I wanted to ask about, we saw a ball go over Ramos's head in one game, and then the next day he makes a play on a ball, more hang time, but further, I looked at the positioning and he was positioned a little deeper. So I didn't know if that was like a coaching thing that you guys tapped into. And then, uh, the other one with Garcia, when Max and him went to do the pickoff move, but he didn't break towards the base. Is that, that just, is that just like a new team, new signs, new play calling that he's aware of? A little bit new team. Like usually with a lefty, you wouldn't like in a three, two situation, you wouldn't think that sometimes to communicate that I'm behind them with the pitcher, which he didn't do. And, and the way Max is, Max is obviously very unique. And there's very few guys like him that are, that read the runner. So he saw the hopping and, um, wasn't aware that, that he was off. So a little bit of a lesson, like, like we make sure we have all our first baseman all the time, communicating on three, two, or anytime we're, we're behind a guy. Um, so it was just that, yeah. And what about Ramos? Was there any adjustment to positioning there? I don't know on the specific one. Um, I mean, you know, we're kind of adjusting every play, so to speak. So I don't know if there was a specific effort to, to move him back necessarily. You had mentioned last time we talked about starting him in left field, but eventually maybe moving him to right or trying out right. Is that on the belly timeline or is that? Yeah. Probably with the belly timeline. Um, yeah, right now that, you know, having the consistency of it right now. Um, so I might at any point pop them in right field, because it's one of the first things I talked to him about when he got here, it was like, you know, how are you with right or left? And he, he, he had no, he was like, oh, I'm good either way. So that was at least good to hear because you know, you want to get these guys kind of settled and comfortable. So, um, yeah, especially when belly is back, I would, I would not hesitate to move him to right. Has there been a lot of guys that you asked that question too? And they said, don't put me in this spot. Don't put me in that spot. No, very rarely. Like don't, but you can judge by their reaction. Sometimes I got check. Yeah. Like, oh yeah. Whatever you like, you know, like there's a, you want to see how they answer and like in Ramos's case, he was, you could tell it was like, oh yeah, I'm good either way. There's a difference. If some guys like, yeah, in a pinch, a pinch over there. Okay. Whatever you need, any, uh, any behind the scenes with the newcomers, either Lombard Ramos Garcia, like in the clubhouse, um, are they wallflowers? Are they taking charge? You know, who's the, the greeting committee when they come in? Like, I don't know any color on the personality. Someone starts getting too loud with Fernando Cruz and you're like, all right, we got it. We got now we had to do it in the past. In 2017, Todd Frazier came over and changed the clubhouse last year. Rosario came over and he instantly became the bench guy and brought a lot of energy. I don't know. Just, just looking for any insider into the off the field. I got nothing big for you other than, you know, in Ramos and Garcia's case, they've been great. Like they're just, you know, they're happy people. They're good to be around. Um, I feel like their personality starting to come out, you know, just talking to the hitting coaches down in the cages. They're, you know, they're getting comfortable, which is good. Um, George is very, you know, he's, he's bald. He's about ball, you know, he's very, you know, he's a serious and it doesn't seem excitable. He seems in a very much like I'm supposed to be here and I'm supposed to be doing this. This isn't special. No question. He's yeah. Who, who's the pitcher that you most likely would join the hitters meeting and the hitter that most likely would join the pitchers meeting? Jake and I were doing this exercise on a different episode recently. Like if they told you blank, just joined the hitters meeting as a pitcher, would you say, Oh, that makes sense? Like he did maybe cruise. That's what you said. Jay still fancies himself a position player. You were all, Oh no, it's just got a click. I said, he said, cruise. I said, Cole would go there just to learn. Cole Cole could just to chime in and see what's going on and see if he needs to add anything to the yeah. Now the max max popped in there the other day. Okay. The way I know Trevor Ploof talking about pitchers, it would be like no hitter would ever join the pitchers. They're above that. That's, that's just the, but that's just from Trevor Ploof and how much he hates pitchers. Yeah, it's fair. I, uh, no trivia. I'll, I'll hit you with a baseball bar talk presented by T-Mobile, uh, unsolicited by them first episode ever. Um, the baseball bar talk conversation, uh, over the weekend, Jacob Wilson, he, he breaks the shortstop consecutive games without an error streak. Um, Mike Bordick held it your guy. Um, I guess there was some baseball fodder because Jacob Wilson defensively. Uh, Oh, a, a, he grades out pretty solidly DRS. He doesn't that I, it's just kind of the baseball bar talk right now. Like what, what do we do with this? Like we obviously you don't want errors, but we've talked sometimes errors aren't the worst thing in the world. I guess. How do you process this? Yeah. I mean, you know, I think, I think for an infielder, for a short stop, third baseman, um, to a lesser degree, the second baseman, the air thing, it's a, that's a pretty good, it's a pretty good thing. Although you go to some of these parks and you see some of the hits they give and then you come to Yankee stadium and go, and it's an air all the time. It's like, yeah, we're the only ballpark that's happening in. I mean, the home cooking around the big leagues and other places is different. So all errors aren't created equal. Um, so, so it's short and third, especially like, you know, that's something that's, that's pretty impressive, but definitely just a small part of the, whether a guy's good or not. Okay. And a big, it's always a big discussion. Defensive metrics. It's like bizarre. Do you wish, what defensive metrics did you look at when you played before we had DRS out to a beverage? Obviously you had the eye test. Obviously it errors, but like was fielding percentage kind of out by the time you were playing? Like, cause I think that went out the window fast. I don't, we didn't have much. I feel like when I was playing other than your errors, is there a metric that you relied on that is like poo-pooed now that you kind of like, I still kind of like it. I mean, um, I mean, offensively speaking, like I wanted to drive in runs. Like that's all I cared about. So your brother who just talked about that, I did see him talking about that with saying that the counting stats should still be more memorable because some guys could go on the IL. Like guys used to play through injuries more because they needed to get their 100 RBIs. They needed to get there, you know, 100 hits. I don't know about that necessarily, but, but yeah, I like, I, I was like, went into the season. I was like, I just got to drive in a lot of runs. If I do that, the rest will take care of itself. So would you be interested in like an RBI percentage stat? If someone figured that out? I don't know. You can commission me to figure it out. I'll do it. Yeah. All right. What if I go build one and it shows you were great at it, then are you interested? Yes. Okay. All right. I'll let you know if you don't hear anything from me, bad news. All right. No trivia. How about, I just was watching a highlight from 1989 Yankees game. Because it was the same exact play that happened in Toronto. And, um, the shortstop made a hell of a play and he was number two. And the, the team in the office was like, who, who was the shortstop making good plays on the Yankees in 1989? That was war. Number two. Now, do you know? 1986, 87, 88, 89, 1990. Who's that Alvaro Espinoza? No, not sorry. And I don't know. It looks like he never wore number two. What? For the Yankees. Oh, Alvaro. Right, right, right. Um, I'm going to be mad when you tell me this. So it's a great trivia then. Great trivia. I mean, they've got their name, the Yankee now. So let's see, he also played for the Rangers, uh, and half a year on the white socks ended his career with the Yankees. I've never heard his name before, but I was, I was born in 89. So he didn't get into the legends or the lore of the history books at all. It looks like he was a utility infielder. He played a lot of positions. Not great back. Not, um, Oh, uh, short guy, five, nine. Uh, I think he did wear glasses in the videos we saw. Yeah. Oh man. I can see him here. I'll give you a, I'll let you look, give me his initials. No, I think that would be too easy. What about that? Yeah, that's who I'm picturing. Okay. First name starts with W. Last name starts with T. Yeah. Wayne Tolleson. Yes. And have credit to Alvaro Espinosa did play 146 games that year and is listed as the shortstop in 89. So you get an assist there. Just didn't wear number two. No. Okay. Congrats. Name that Yankee. Okay. That'll be on there next time. Okay. Anything else for us? We need to know that you're not going to walk away from here and there's going to be breaking news, right? I hope so. You hope there is breaking news. Yeah. I don't like giving it to you guys. Ah, it's not true. No, it's true. Who would you rather give it to? Yes. Complain about our team and you don't get breaking news. I only complain about the bad things and I glorify the good things. That's fandom. I mean, if we didn't have opinions, we wouldn't have a career. Well, I know, but it's a little, I like you guys. All right. It's time to make our same game parlay picks for tonight's game presented by fanatic sports book. You can make your own single game parlay by picking multiple legs from tonight's game and combine them into one bet, or you can tell our picks right in the fanatic sports book app today. We've seen what's happening. I mean, it's going to be the under cause that's, those are the games we play. Um, good picture for them. Good picture for us. How about that? Um, Yankees win. Yeah. Sporn on a Tuesday, not last Tuesday, four to one final couple Tuesdays ago. Um, no five to two and Luis Garcia jr. Homers. Cause he hits right. He's pretty much better than anyone. Yeah, just your Don has got him beat. So that's a big one. That's a big one. And Hey, you can, you can ride with us. You could do your own, whatever you want. As long as you're doing it at fanatic sports book from the first. Pitch to the final outcome. See why winning hits different at fanatics. That was Booney. He likes us. And we ended it on him saying, I like you guys. That's nice of him where there was a second. It looked like that wasn't going to be the next sentence out of his mouth. Uh, we got to send him some clips of us being nice to the team. Yeah. Complimentary clips. Cause we do both. A lot of the, both, a lot of the clips on social do better if they're not. So I get it. Um, what did we learn? We learned that Trent's not playing the corners. I think that's like the biggest learning because when belly comes back, if Jones and Trent toss up now Jones has had a rough stretch and Trent had a good stretch. So who knows? Yeah. And I think it's not a decision at this point. Cause he's already saying Ramos is going to learn, right. When belly comes back. So it seems like they've already made up their mind when belly comes back, belly and left Trenton center Ramos and right. And in a way that's fine. Jones and Ramos platoon and right. Because well, we'll judge when you get all those guys back. And what we've talked about is like, okay. Verse lefty. If Trent doesn't show, he can hit lefties. Belly has a track record of being one of the better hitters verse lefties that then you have Ramos and theory you have judged that. Um, and Trent, the way he does hit verse righties when he's right. It's worthwhile to have him out there that, yeah, there's, there's a little weird, you know, Yankee ism as, as you watch belly be one of the most athletic players we've seen where pinstripes and you see Trent, you know, again, speaking Boone here mentioning Trent's not a gold Glover anymore, mentioning he's dealt with a lot of energy. He's like, yeah, it's, um, sometimes it can be mental warfare and it's also, it's a lot tougher when Trent just went through one of his worst slumps as a Yankee. Yeah. I mean, it was really hot right before the injury. So they're hoping he gets back to that. I guess the other thing we learned, I'd say if you're a big Rodan fan root for rain Thursday or Friday, um, very interesting injury timelines because they're like Bellinger is doing everything but running the bases. That's like next on the list. He has a checkoff and then Stan has been introduced to base running, which means he's lightly running the bases. But then Boone said, but Bellinger is ahead of Stan said that they're on their own timelines. And I guess every injury return is, is unique and stands are the most always. Yeah. I mean, he said that belly's going to need games, so don't expect a Stanton like, Whoa, belly's just in the lineup one day that probably sometime mid, mid next week, you'd like to hear something about belly rehab. Um, and then, yeah, I, it's starting, you know, for us sitting here, I think there was a trade deadline realization of like, okay, yeah. Rodan, you know what the offense really could use judge Stanton and belly, but it was kind of like, okay. You know, Stan was starting to do some sneaky, I mean, Boone popped on, what was it a month ago? And was like, Oh, that Giancarlo report that he's not close. That's just a relative term. Everyone's got different versions of close. Yeah. I don't know. I think, I think in an honest moment, he might take that one back. Cause I think he was, I think he was saying it's reported as like, he's not returning and, and he's like, he's going to return. Well, yeah. Yeah. Like it's going South, but he was like, no, it's just slow going. I don't know. It's bizarre. Hopefully belly's back soon. The outfield is just set. Ramos is everyday player. Jones is going to be every day. I'm interested if they platoon Jones and copy arrow at all. Cause he said he wants to get copy error in there against some righties. They probably give Lombard a day off a day after a night. He said, tell us that before we got called up, daddy, we might do that, but I, I don't see why he said like, I'll find a day. We got, I guess there might be one. We got minor league schedule coming up. We got the, this Monday and next Monday off. Um, that they can do that. I would expect copy arrow probably to get two to three starts. You can sit jazz for a day and you can sit McMahon for a day. And that's a good way to keep him active. Um, and also, I mean, the, the part they also probably don't want to say is, but Caballero off the bench, what he provides, um, whether they want to shoot Goldie or Rosario and then, uh, as a pinch runner that yeah, copy arrow. We've seen a couple of guys that have, you know, a very different example, but we've there's times when it's like, Hey, maybe try as well though a little bit more, but as well, those bench ability ended up putting him there. I have a crazy thing to say that say too soon. If that's the role, give me shoe. Whoa. Like if you're, if the role is, this guy's not going to start, but you're going to use his abilities later in games. Like we've seen KB try to get a bunt down. Can't do it. We've seen. Shoot. You can. What if I told you as a pinch runner? Cause you got the guy that let's be better than that. I was thinking in my head of like, like the way they used to use IKF for contact. Right. Or like an at bat. Yeah. We don't talk about that. Wow. You know, will you pinch hit IKF for a week round? I would pinch your kicks for a walk. That was pretty wild. Wild time. Uh, anything else? We learned Garcia and Ramos. Happy people. That's good. Lombard series guy that changes the dynamic ball, ball, all like that. And, um, I don't know, Tim Hill, any answer there? Not really. I just mean, guys have, are trying to lift them all. Yeah, it is interesting. You need to see that change. I felt like there was a little, there was a little alluding to like Tim Hill's arm slot is on the traject machine. So that's literally the thought I have now. If you're a lefty coming into a series, you see, you see Tim Hill. Yeah. The track jacked machine. Not used to not have arm slots. Maybe. I don't know if they've updated or not. Yeah. Savage was like too tall to be on the track. Remember? Yeah. I haven't heard anyone too low. Me neither. Too low. It's ski. Wow. Former Yankee. Yeah. Rogers. Was he too low? Really? Something, probably something there. All right. Well, there you go. That's the episode. Appreciate you guys. We will be back to recap the series against the Mariners. A hundred percent. They've been getting into some juicy baseball recently. Just to let you know. Lots been going on. Push and pay. Go Yanks. Tell them grams. Go Yankees.