Billie Eilish and James Cameron 'Hit Me Hard And Soft' Interview

I have to ask you guys what something each of you learned from each other while making this. Mm-hmm. All right. I'll go. Get in there. I can't wait to see this. You want to have some fun? I learned how Billie perceives her art and her relationship with her fans and what it means to them. You know, I could be a neutral witness to the show and realize how beautiful and spectacular it is and what an amazing performer you are, and obviously songwriter and creator of the music and all that, but also a physical performer in real time. I can see all that for myself. What I learned was what the emotional connection is and how these kids have grown up with you. They started with you when you were 13. They've grown up with you for over a decade. You got in their minds, you've got them through the hard teenage years, the angsty years, the anxiety, because they went through it with you and they saw you go through it and that gave them agency. It gave them hope. You know, there's a whole layer to it that I didn't understand when I started. I want to feel like it's me and them. You love that. I love that. I learned so much. I feel like I learned kind of in the same realm, like almost we both learned that same thing opposite, you know, somehow, which is that having been on tour doing that show for over a year, I was very much like, you know, super, super deep in how the show looked from the audience and from my point of view and from the people in the bleachers and the people in the front and more just like the live experience. I think I learned so much about how portraying it on camera, you do actually need to do it a little bit differently than you do it live. And I think that showed me so much where like a shot that I might be like, no, that's not right for the, you know, in person thing. That's actually a beautiful shot in the movie and makes it come to life in this different way that I hadn't thought of before. And also like, I think it was pretty amazing to be able to be people with such different backgrounds and such different skill sets and not skill sets, but different things that we're hyper fixated on. And like hearing the way you saw certain shots where I was like, oh, I didn't even think of that. And then me say some stuff about the music that you were like, oh, I didn't think of that. And those two things combined really just made a wonderful, amazing collaborative experience. It's your show. It's your creative vision. This is going to blow people's mind. I got airdropped into the middle of, you know, a moving thing that had been moving for a year. Yes. And I was really reliant on you. And we the best part of the day was soundcheck, which was a few hours before the show. And we'd go around and we'd choreograph what we were going to try to do that night because we shot it over four different nights. And to get the cameras where we needed them, we had to keep moving them around to get all the coverage. How hard would it be to get a camera on the inside of this box screen? We want to do it. Okay, good. That was the first part of the collaboration. But I think the deepest part of the collaboration was in post when we were editing and we'd sit in the, you know, I'd take a pass at a song or a group of songs and then Billy come in and we'd spend five, six, seven hours, whatever it took going through shot by shot by shot. And this is where I really started to get Billy's perception of her relationship with the audience and how meaningful that was. And, you know, so that was the I think that was the true collaboration. And then later it started all over again with the mix because we had to get the mix right because there was the music and then there was the fans singing and their presence. And we had to get that kind of ebb and flow between the fan energy and Billy's incredible performance. I got to see this live. So and my favorite my favorite part was your acapella part. So I can't wait to find something new out of it. And party's over. Yeah. That's great. Thank you so much. That's so cool. Which show did you come to? Forum. One of the. Oh, hell yeah. Yeah. So much fun. I love those shows, too.