Ronny Hauser Jr. BKFC Reddit Interview

Hey, what's going on, everybody? Welcome back to another BKSU Reddit. Ask me anything. We're joined by a good buddy of mine, Mr. Ronnie Houser Jr. How you doing, bud? We're doing good. How about yourself? You know what? It's hot as hell up here, dude. It's fall. You're an upper northern Midwest guy. Why the hell is it so hot still? It rained. It's all humid out here right now for me. It's like a swamp right now. 88 and humid in it. Hey, I feel like I'm in Florida. Have you always been a fib? If people don't know, Wisconsin people hate Illinois people because Illinois people invade Wisconsin on the weekends. So we refer to you guys as fibs. Have you always been from Illinois? Well, I went to school in Whitewater, Wisconsin. We're always arguing about a bubbler, water fountain, all that stuff. The Bears, Packers, it never ends. Who's better at Wisconsin or Illinois? Because I went there for wrestling. That was the big thing. I've been called that a few times back in the day. What was your favorite part about going to school in Wisconsin? Was there something that you really liked? Listen, there's a lot of people that live in Illinois, but you guys have some insane rules in Illinois. It was only an hour and 45-minute drive. It was a suitcase college. So on the weekends, I could be like, you know what? I want to go home. I've had enough of Wisconsin. Go to Illinois for a day, and then I'm back in Wisconsin enjoying life. It was definitely different, but there's so many more rules. I think it changed now, but I remember you could be 16 with your parent going into a bar or whatever. I don't know if that's still a rule in Wisconsin or if they changed it, but it was 10 years ago when I was in college. No, absolutely. That was one thing. Moving up here from Colorado, the amount of people that drink, it just blows my mind. It's insane. Especially Wisconsin, Whitewater, they had all-you-can-drink Wednesday, Thursday, Friday, Saturday, and you're like, oh, how am I going to? I've got to get to class. I don't know if we ever see BKFC go to Illinois, but I really feel like it's time. You have Big Ben Rothwell. I really feel like it's time we either get a Minnesota card, and you can play off the Richmond over there, or again, you have Rothwell in Wisconsin, but I feel like one of these places needs a card. Wisconsin would be sweet. You got Indiana in there too. You've already done the Hammond show. You go to Wisconsin, those Indiana guys are going to go to Wisconsin. It just creates that triangle. You got the Illinois guys like me coming into Indiana or Wisconsin. That would be sweet, and I'm sure it's probably just as cheap as Indiana too. One of my favorite things about you, you're a very Dr. Jekyll, Mr. Hyde guy. Right now, you're fun and jovial, and you're a lot of fun. I was in the locker room for your first fight, or backstage. You are a bit of a psychopath when you're about ready to fight. A little bit. It's one of those things where even my corner, we're serious, I'm serious, but we'll pop a joke here and there. We'll make each other laugh. It's almost like a comedic show. My coach, Ricardo, he's a hoot. I was going to say, I can't hear you. I assume you just got a phone call. My money is on phone call, but he should be popping back on one. He's probably putting his phone on do not disturb as we talk so that way no one will bug him. You guys can sit here and stare at my face. All right, he's back. Let's go. What the heck was that? I assumed you were popular, and you got a phone call. I guess so. I was from Florida too, so I don't know. It was probably Felton calling to say, I need you to fight Zombo. Bear fell off, and I need a psychopath to fight Zombo. I probably would, just because. Back to your question, it's one of those things where I like to flip the switch on and off. There's some guys that just can't switch it off, and they're just a hard ass all the time. My day-to-day life, I can't be like that. It's a blessing to be in the BKFC because that's where I feel free. I can turn that switch off, go into my Jekyll and Hyde persona, and then leave, and have fun with my family, enjoy time with them, and get my hand raised. Now, you're very fortunate you didn't get pigeonholed into being that little regional thing like, oh, you only fight on hammock cards. I think it's great. Listen, we saw you have the knockout power. We saw you have a dog in you. That Justin Street fight was phenomenal. You were winning that fight until you weren't, but BKFC seeing, oh, this dude can knock somebody out, or he can go the distance and grind it out. Like I said, I feel like they're investing a lot in you, bringing you down to Florida, and putting you in front of a much bigger audience now. Yeah. This is a big opportunity to perform in a different crowd. I actually like being the underdog, going to a different crowd, being the enemy in territory. I've had two fights. I give a lot of credit to Justin Street. He's a savage. I hit him with some of the hardest shots I could possibly imagine, and he looked right back at me and smiled. I knew it was a fight, and I gained a lot of experience from that one that is definitely going to show in this next fight. Now, you got the Suarezes. When I say the Suarezes, anyway, there's the twins, and one of them has looked phenomenal, and the other one didn't look nearly as good. Did you know which one ahead of time? Because I honestly can't tell them apart. They're literally identical, and I was like, until they show the record, I don't know which one you have. I have the smaller one. He's a little bit smaller. You can tell a little bit. The other one wears a cap or a do-rag or whatever, and the other one doesn't. That's how they tell them apart. There's small differences that you can tell. That 10-pound difference, you can definitely tell which one's the smaller one and which one's the bigger one. At first, I was like, which one are they giving me? Am I going up a weight class or what? You can't see Dustin up like that, too. You never know. That's fine. I don't have to cut 10 more pounds. I'll go 45, too. As long as I'm getting a chance to fight. How do you feel BKFC got rid of the flyweight division? Now there's a whole bunch of 25ers moving up to 35. Are you excited? Because look, the depth is phenomenal now. It's going to be stacked. We should be seeing a lot more fights, or is it one of those now you're like, oh man, now I got to grind my way through more guys to get back up to that title shot? I see it as more opportunities. I definitely one day plan on fighting for a title myself, but I'm not even close. I see that as opportunities. You got guys like Bellart, who's got a big following in Florida. Dodson, who's fighting for a title now. I'm trying to think of some others. Cutman, Strode, all those. Those are just opportunities. I think that's how you got to see it. If you look at it that way, you're already screwed. If you're like, oh man, you might as well just retire and be done anyways. Now they just announced Dodson is fighting Jamel out there in Jersey. Do you have a prediction, or if you were going to fight one of those guys, would you rather fight the world-class champion MMA guy or the world-class champion boxer? Man, you're putting me on the spot for that one. If I were strategic, I'd have to go with Dodson. He's a lot faster, but he's also got that explosive pedigree. If I were to fight, I'd want to fight Dodson because we have the same styles. But again, he's going to have to deal with that reach too at 35. That's going to be a war. I think that's going to go five rounds. I see that one going five rounds for sure. Now, I think Dodson's a professional, but he's also been inactive for two years. He's been doing a little bit of other stuff, but that ring rust, if you haven't been in the bare knuckle thing and haven't been getting hit, it's definitely going to play a factor. It is a huge factor. I've had ring rust for maybe seven months, and you're like, oh man. It's definitely a factor. It's two years. Again, when you said how many fights he's had, he's gotten to have over 30 fights, 25 fights. Again, it's one of those things where he's had half the fights that I have, more than half. I don't know. You don't know who's going to show up then. Sure. Okay. Sorry, keep going. No, no, no, no, no, no, no. Okay. You are a fighter and you enjoy the fighting, but you've also been a promoter. Which is harder to prepare for, an upcoming fight where you're going to be main eventing or setting up a big show? Back in the day when we did it in Illinois, I was part of it, but I wasn't promoting it. You got to get the ring set up in there. You got to get a venue cleared. You got to get the commission on board. You got to do the matchmaking. It was like a smoker show. Some guys don't show up. Some guys come in five pounds overweight. Then you got to figure out who's going to fight who. It can turn into a real clusterfuck big time. I'm glad we don't do it anymore. I'd rather fight than do that. That's the last thing I want to do. Okay. Growing up, I did wrestle, but I never did it collegiately. At what point did you say, **** it, I'm just going to let the cauliflower ear take over? I had beautiful ears. I always wore my headgear. The first year I started fighting, right after I got out of college, it happened and my mom was pissed. She was like, what are you doing? I was like, sorry, I can't wear a headgear in fighting. Then my sister actually drained it for me because she was in nursing school. I did this one, which is pretty good. She did this one and I go, what's your problem? I go, you made this one look terrible. I give her ---- to this day. You made my left ear look terrible. I did this one. I go, I should have gone to nursing school instead of you. Does a cauliflower ear instantly give you street cred? When you walk in a room, somebody goes, that dude's got cauliflower ear. He'll ******* take me down and pound on me. For smart people that look at the ears, I do get it pointed out a lot. They go, don't mess with that guy. He's got cauliflower ear. I smile and laugh at them. They're like, all right, he's my friend now. We can mess around, but it definitely gives you a little bit of street cred. You work with the future adults of tomorrow. You work with kids. Do they know about you fighting and how do they feel about it? Yeah, I work at a gym that's owned by Ricardo Lamas. It's a UFC gym in Naperville. We got a great kids program that I run. I got 40 to 60 kids. I personally train about 10 to 15 of those. It's just one of those things where they all know I fight. Some of them watched my last fight and they're eight years old. I get videos of them crying after I lose. It hurt my heart seeing that, but it's also like, all right, if I got eight-year-olds and nine-year-olds and 10-year-olds, all different ages that are looking up to me, it's like I'm doing something right and I got to stay on that track. What will be the hardest part of this upcoming fight? Again, we all know the training camp, but you're going to Florida. You're going into hostile territory. You know the BKFC loves the Cubans and they try to give them favorable matchups. What will be the hardest part of this upcoming fight? Going in there, when you sign the contract and then you step in there, there's two things that I already expect to happen or I'm prepared for. It's one, getting put on your shield, two, hurting yourself, hurting your hand, your face, and then three, it's just like, all right, you just got to fight your ass off. If you do that, usually 99% of the time, good things are going to happen. Going into Florida, I don't want to leave it into the judge's hands, but if I do, I got to make it look very one-sided for sure. You've looked good with the BKFC, but is there any... Again, I know you're an MMA guy and you're the wrestler. I'm sure you still kind of miss that. You're still young enough. Do we see you ever go back to MMA at some point or BKFC for life now? BKFC for life. I've been wrestling since I was seven years old. MMA training camps are different than BKFC training camps. They're just as hard, but again, I'm not getting thrown on my back. I'm not getting bended in the jiu-jitsu practice. I got to do things a little bit differently, but I do miss MMA a little bit, but it's not to the extent where I'm just going to ditch the BKFC. I think this definitely fits my striking portfolio. It's a smaller circle. You can dirty box. You can hold on, grab on. It just fits my style a little bit better. You're a bit of a gym rat. You literally work at a gym and you train. What the hell do you do for fun? Oh, man. I do like to hang out with my family. I do got a dog that I spend my time with. It's a wiener dog, right? Yeah. I've had all those since I was a little baby. They're like me. They think they're short, small. They think they're badasses, but they're also little terrors too, but they also like to sleep and relax and chill. It's my dog for sure. I'm going to have those to the rest of my life, but that's what I do, is literally work, train, and just chill out. I live a pretty boring life, especially when I'm active in camp. After, I spend a couple of weeks with my family, go to some places, go on vacation, whatever it is, and then it's back to the grind. I own my own wrestling club, work at the gym. I don't have time and I'm putting on other business aspects on too, that I want to invest in and be a part of. It's just building my future. What's your favorite wrestling brand? I really like the Adidas shoes, but what's your brand for wrestling shoes? I do wear Nikes. I have some Asics that I like. I used to be a big Asics guy, but they're a little too grippy. I would definitely blow my ACL out on the BKFC ring if I wore those. The Nike ones, they're nice. I like the Nike ones. I've always been Nike apparel. This is a good question. Every time there's a big fight, we always see an influx on the Reddit. It's naturally dudes that are like, oh, I really want to become a BKFC fighter. What's the path to go? You work with kids. If one of your kids comes to you and says, I want to be a bare knuckle boxer when I get older, take boxing classes. You say, let's do some MMA. What route do you push? Wrestling first. It's like, hey, you graduate college and get your degree and you did it wrestling. You go do whatever you want. That's what I did. I graduated with my degree. Then I go, I don't want to go into the school district right away. Things unfolded into my hand and I got lucky. Again, I have that backup plan. Even though I don't think about it, but I have it. I do have some 11-year-olds that are killers. They want to be in the UFC. They want to do the amateur mini sparring bouts. We're like, no, not yet. We'll wait till you're 16, 18. We got kids that are chomping at the bit. It's hard to derail that because they want to do it so bad and you can see that they want to. Again, we like to be on the side of caution, especially with our kids. It's like, no, well, when you're with us, when you're 18, 16, we'll get you an amateur fight. You can do that, but do your wrestling first, get your schoolwork done, do all that stuff first. Then fighting will come on later on. Now, again, this is a huge fight coming up. Do you prepare different for this? Are you one of those guys that likes to bring in people? Do you watch a lot of tape or do you just put it all in your coach's hand and you just follow his game plan? You base it off your last fight too. I think my last fight, I fought phenomenal. I think I just got caught. Total credit to Street. Also, I was throwing for the kill every time. That's definitely something that we've been working on. It's like, yeah, we're going to keep doing that, but we're going to be a little bit more calculated. We got a little bit more wisdom now, a lot more experience, and it's going to show on the 11th. All right. As a fellow wrestler, what's your feelings on Kai? He's a wrestler. He's got the cardio. He grinds people down. He doesn't necessarily have that knockout power. He does have a knockout of one or two in the beginning of his career, but people can't crack that code. I see you as being very similar. Like I said, I honestly had you winning your last fight until that punch, but are you a Kai fan? He's put out a brilliant blueprint, I feel like, for you fellow wrestlers. He definitely has. I think you can see some of the similarities in my fight with Street to how he fights. He's got amazing cardio. I got a pretty good cardio, but I think his level of cardio is phenomenal. He blitzed at least five times, 10 times, 45 seconds. Every 30 seconds, he's blitzing, backing off, blitzing, backing off. That takes a lot of energy, but he's also got pretty good head movement. He's doing the duck under, getting behind his opponent and getting a punch in. Then he's just grinding the body and the clinch. I think he threw 20 punches, little rabbit punches. Those are no joke. Those hurt, especially when you don't have a glove on to absorb that power. It's like little knives going into your stomach. You have to slow him down to beat him, but how? I'm a fan of it. I was the second corner for Stride when he fought Kai over in Dubai. I interviewed Nico before he fought him. Both guys told me, I'm going to out-cardio this guy. I was like, I feel like you should probably have a different game plan than that. No. You're not going to out-cardio him. You almost got to play into his game a little bit, but you got to be able to slow him down too. You got to be in and out. When he blitzes, I'm not going to stay there. I got to get out of the way. He's also very fast. Let's say I were to fight Kai. We're both blitzers like that. If he's blitzing, I got to get out of there. I got to keep my distance. Giggliotti just let him blitz right into him and didn't move and just tried to stay still and hit that counter. You got to be just as bouncy and moving just like him, but avoid those blitzes and avoid that clinch. Avoid getting duck-undered and a guy's on your neck the whole time riding behind you. It's not a fun time. It showed in that Fenway Park, which was amazing. It looked lovely on TV. I don't think I would have enjoyed it. That net in the way and stuff like that and sitting in those seats didn't look appealing to myself. Overall, the card looked phenomenal. I thoroughly enjoyed watching that. I will say, the one thing that I really like about Kai is he tells you exactly what he's going to do before the fight. He does it and people get so pissed. He tells you. He doesn't lie. I read it today. He was like, I tell all these guys what I do. He's like, you can't stop me. He's the ultimate heel. It's one of those things where I envy it because I would never turn heel like that, but it works for him. He's the perfect heel for the BKFC. The thing that you notice now is Kai has a big push. Juggernaut was a nice guy, then he turned heel. When Juggernaut doesn't have a camera in his face, he is lovely to talk to. Those guys who are the heels are absolutely getting promoted. Oh, 100%. I'm definitely a heel in there, but outside I'm not. I think me and Justin saved that card. We wanted to fight each other in the break. We didn't want to break. We kept jawing at each other. Even though I lost, it was a fun fight just because of that aspect. It's one of those things where we were cool after. We shook hands like waffle hands because you couldn't grip each other's hand or bend our fingers because they're so swollen. It's one of those things where if me and him were to fight again, it'd be the same exact kind of fight where we're just in each other's face the whole time. That's just how I am. In there, I'm not your friend. Outside, I'll have a beer with you after, whatever. We can do it. In there, I'm not your friend. How did you come to BKFC? I did the tryout in Indiana, the first tryout. Literally, this is a good story. I had just lost my MMA bout. I'm winning, and then I get caught in a guillotine. Basic wrestler, went in for a takedown, went in the whole fight, get caught in a guillotine. In my MMA career, I would take two steps forward, one step back, two steps forward, one step back. I was dealing with some things back then that got cleared up. Mike Davis goes, Hey, we're in Indiana. You want to try out? I'm at Topgolf with my coaches having a beer or two before the tryout the night before. I didn't even know. I just go, Hey, I think I'm going to try out for the BKFC tomorrow. They're like, Yeah, right. You're three beers deep. You're going to a tryout. I go, I guess I'm going. I went hungover and did the tryout, beat everybody in the cardio, beat everybody in the pad work, beat everybody in the bag work, beat everybody in the sparring. Then they called me the next day and were like, Hey, do you want to fight in October? I was like, Yeah, I do. Of course. What a fight it was, dude. I was looking at you. I didn't know anything about you. I was like, that dude looks like he's ******* built to fight. Then you go out there and just starch him. I was like, clearly he's built to fight. Yeah, man. I'll never forget that night. That was a great start to my BKFC journey. It couldn't have been any more perfect. Just the way that it happened, the tryout, things happening in my life. It just all worked out. Now I'm here. Now I'm fighting in Florida in two weeks. Now it's just time to perform and get my hand raised. BKFC used to post their tryout videos. I really enjoyed it because you got to see somebody come from the bottom and work their way up. Ryan Reber and Juggernaut, they came from those tryouts and worked their way up. They haven't done it in ages. I would have loved to have been able to watch you do the tryouts and learn where the hell you came from. Yeah. There are some people videotaping, but they didn't do any of it. I saw in the past one they gave t-shirts and stuff. They didn't give any t-shirts. I was like, who's going to believe me that I tried out for the BKFC? I don't have a t-shirt now. I was messing with them. There was a good amount of people that did that tryout. I want to say there was 40 guys. The sparring part was probably the funnest. I'm a coachable guy. I listen to the coaches. We spar smart. Some of these guys wanted to be gym stars. I just made them look silly. They just kept missing. It was a good time. I definitely could have done some damage in those sparring rounds. I'm going to listen to Chris Lytle. He's in charge of my future right now in this moment for the BKFC. That's probably why they don't do it, because the gym stars that want to try and show out and knock people out in sparring. Now, I will say that we've watched the show, and there's been some guys, and they're really hyped up, and they're talking about they're the next big thing. Then you watch them in the BKFC, and it does not go their way. It's fun to watch That's why I keep my stuff to myself. I'm confident in myself. I don't need to put it on social media. It's one of those things where sometimes you're going to eat your words. I don't want to be eating my words ever. I'd rather let my fists do the talking and not my mouth. Now, one of the things I really like about you is you're a fan of BKFC. We talk about some fights and all that. Who are some of the fighters you thoroughly enjoy watching? Baboon. Luis Palomino, for sure. He's an OG. He taught me how to throw my first punch with Ricardo Lamas. That's how I met Luis. I literally learned how to throw a jab, and it was terrible. I was like, I'm going to be so good at this. I threw my first jab, and it was god awful. It was the worst. It was terrible. Baboon helped me out, and now we're good friends. I guess he's cornering the Suarez brothers, too. It's going to be even more on the line ego-wise and bragging now, which is fun. Definitely Baboon. I do like Vital. Vital is fun to watch. Cody's one of my best buddies. He's a lunatic. He'll call me as the knuckle maniac. I'm like, Cody, just use your regular voice. He's like, let me tell you something, brother. He's such a nice guy. Literally, he called me yesterday. He will call me, and I'll be like, Cody, it's been an hour. We need to get off the phone. I love the knuckle maniac. And then I got one more. He's your guy, Derrick. He is so slick. He doesn't take any damage. He's just got that incredible reach, reaction time. He made Justin Lane look really silly, and then Justin Lane looked even more silly trying to double-egg him. How much better of a fighter would you be if you had Bryce's reach? I'd be the best in the world. Dude, his arms are so long. I've hung out with Carlos in Dubai, and he's not a small guy, and he's a good boxer, but Bryce is just so phenomenal, and that reach just completely negates everybody he fights. I look like a powerful dude. He doesn't look that powerful, but when you have that reach, and he's got that fast touch, those guys don't see it coming, and then they get put to sleep. Then they just get so out of their element that they lose the fight. Oh, they're frustrated. Absolutely. Yeah, they have no answers. When he fought on the card that you were on and I was there, his opponent said, that pitter-patter bullshit isn't going to do anything. Bryce said he threw his hardest punch ever against Carlos when he knocked him out, and he said that was 60 percent, but he said he literally throws everything at about 40 percent, but it's so fast, and you just keep this ---- all night, and there's no solution for it, and you just get frustrated, and then he beats you. I believe it. I believe it. He's angling. He's doing all this stuff. He's fading back, and then he fades back, and you miss your punch, and you got a fist right in your face, and you're like, where did that come from? Then you have no answer. That's not a fight that a lot of guys want, and that's what it sounds like. I hope he gets his title shot soon. He's on his way there. You're going into enemy territory. Who's going with you? I got my family, obviously my corner. I do have some people that are from Illinois that have homes in Florida that are going, so I might have a little army there. Not a big one, but I'll have a little army there. That's all I need. Just my family and my coaches. This Suarez seems to have ... I've heard his fights, and he's got quite the cheering section. How great is it going to be to hear everybody's cheering, and then you get the win, and suddenly the place goes quiet? The last fight I had in Florida, I fought for combat night, and I was fighting the same thing. I win by TKO. It's pin drop. Pin drop. You just hear three of my family, my brothers in the crowd going, it's all you heard was the three of us, and there was like 500, 600 people there. It went silent, and you just hear my family, and then me screaming. That's what I envisioned. Just a pin drop, and then my little army just going ballistic. That's a good feeling. We're seeing more and more celebrities, and UFC guys, and professional boxers, and football players going, are you excited? Like I said, you get to go out there and be part of that, because listen, Hammond doesn't necessarily have that, but now you get to go rub shoulders with rappers, and TV people, and famous ... Like I said, you're just putting yourself out there more and more. Yeah. It's an opportunity that I can't pass up on. I fight my ass off like I did Justin Street. I definitely am getting better each time I train. My ceiling is so high that I haven't even reached that yet. No matter win or lose, I'm always going to be entertaining when I'm out there. Of course, my number one objective is to get my hand raised, but it's a dog fight when I'm in there. I'm going to get hurt, and you're going to get hurt. I've already signed up for that. All right. The last question I always ask people the first time they're on the show, I'm sure you know it. Do you remember the first time you were in a street fight, the first time you punched somebody out of anger who wasn't a relative? Do you remember your first fight? Yeah, I do. It was like seventh grade. It was a big seventh-versus-eighth-grader brawl, and it was like Lord of the Rings style, and it was just insane. I don't advise anyone doing that ever. Was it one-on-one, or was it literally like a bunch of sixth-graders? It was like a war. It was not one-on-one. It was like 15-versus-15s. It was insane. Were you just walking through, slocking people? Everybody looked at me because I was the wrestler, and it's like, dude, I got two guys that I'm on the ground with. I need help over here. Now, let me ask you this. We talked to Dustin Pegg, and we've talked to some of these other guys, and they said growing up, their friends knew they were the fighters, and sometimes they would get in heated arguments and fights with other people, and they would basically have to go fight those people's battles. Clearly, you were a bit of a wrestler and a fighter. I mean, was that the situation for yourself? I mean, wrestling really chilled me out. Yeah, definitely growing up, I hated losing. All that jazz was definitely the emotional one, but wrestling definitely evened me out, or else I would probably be fighting somebody tonight at the bar or whatever. It kind of gave me that fundamental path of be respectful, be coachable, do all that, to where I don't have to prove myself when I walk into a door somewhere. When I walk into somewhere, I already expect that. I'm not looking for trouble. That was me for a period of time, for sure, until wrestling kicked my ass. All right. Do you have any message here, anything you want to get off your chest before we call it a night? Nothing much, man. I'm just excited to fight in two weeks, and I hope the BKFC in Florida is ready for me. Are you going down? I will not be. You know what? It's really hard. I'm a manager of this big Lego place, and it's just a giant pain in the ass. Literally where I live, I'm three hours from Minnesota, and I have to take a flight there or drive there. It's not the easiest thing. Yeah. Well, no. We're going to see a different, more improved Hauser out there. It's going to be good. All right, Ronnie. Thank you so much. Listen, I'm glad you got your ADD under control and were able to sit down long enough to knock this out. Thank you. Thank you. Thanks for having me on, and thanks for understanding, man. We'll definitely do this again. People don't know that I've tried to have you on three times, and you're just brains all over the place. I was in camp, and I'm laser focused. Then I'm pretty social at the gym, too. Then I get home, and my social battery is just like, I got to go home and do this all over again. Now, I had some time, and we've definitely talked a few times before. We'll definitely do this again. This was fun. All right, man. Thanks so much. I appreciate it. Have a good night. All right, man. You have a good night, too. All right.