Thrand had many comment asking about the myth perpetuated by the program Deadliest Warrior and how the extremely heavy Spartan Aspis or shield could kill a man with one blow or a shield punch! The program Vikings on History channel regularly shows the large Viking round delivering extreme blows and it is half the weight of the Spartan or Greek Aspis. Which is more effective? Can they kill with one punch? Sit back grab and ale or mead an watch this compilation of nostalgic test to find out in Thrand's exciting viewer reply to how deadly was a shield punch and who's shield was Deadlier Viking or Spartan?
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The video features a series of practical tests comparing the effectiveness of different shields—specifically a heavy 16-24 lb shield and a lighter 9 lb Viking shield—against cinder blocks and a person wearing armor. The goal is to determine if increased weight improves striking power or if speed and mobility are more critical for combat effectiveness.
Hey, I'm Thrond here.
Hey, this is Eldgrim.
And this is the Thang Thrond channel.
Yo!
How do I actually get behind this thing?
And as you know, we tested our weights today.
So our gobbler with different weights actually destroyed the brick.
It knocked pieces out of it.
It shattered it.
So the destroyed gobbler is putting way more damage out than the shield.
Stop.
Okay, we're going to try that crazy shot they did,
which would leave you wide open if you're looking here.
I mean, I'm freaking crazy if I try this on somebody.
But let's say I was lucky enough to get in and try to do that.
We'll see how this works.
This actually weighs 16 pounds.
It weighs about as much as the Vatican shield or a little more.
It's actually on exhibit.
So let's see what happens here with the same blow and see if I can get any kind of power.
I can barely raise it up.
Well, other than nicking the edge of the shield slightly,
which they bent theirs in the show doing it,
I'm not seeing all this tremendous power.
It's more of a push.
That's what I'm getting out of this.
Let's try one more time with the punch.
See if we can get anything done with that.
Try the punch.
See if we can actually do some damage.
I'll try a little lower.
I'm just not seeing it, guys.
I'm not seeing a brick of cinder block from punching it.
We're going to have to find some other way to test this.
This is the same shield we've been using over and over again.
It's taken all kinds of damage.
But this is the Viking design.
It's not strapped on the arm.
As you can see, it's held by a cinder block.
So you have a lot more reach.
When you punch somebody, it's way out there.
I'm going to try it out on the brick,
see if we can get a little more speed,
because this weighs about half the weight.
Well, I should say exactly half,
but it weighs about eight or nine pounds
when that thing weighs about 16.
And we know that they said 24 on the show.
If it weighed 24, I couldn't even accelerate that punch with it.
All I could do is push people with it.
So let's see.
That's probably what they did.
They probably pressed people with it.
Let's see what this does to the cinder block.
I'm going to give it everything I got.
You see how fast this moves compared to the other one.
Whoa.
I didn't see a break.
But did you see the difference in what it did to the brick?
I mean, did you see how the brick actually moved?
I'm sorry.
That was totally different than from the other one.
Barely knocked it off.
All right.
What I'm going to do here is we've got a jug of water.
Now, I had a friend of mine who actually brought this up.
And I'm telling you, by the way,
it feels I can add weight to that shield.
It's not going to increase how fast it moves.
I mean, it's going to have more momentum,
but due to the short range of motion of the arm,
you're not going to get more out of it adding weight.
We're going to see how much this weighs here.
And with the 16 pounds,
if I use this with it in my hand,
this should add weight to the blow.
And a bottle of water should weigh about 8 pounds.
8.5.
That's a gallon of water.
So between that and the shield, it should be right at 24.
Okay, what we got here is I'm holding the jug on my hand.
And I'm going to try to punch with this,
which I can already tell you,
this blow, 24 pounds is impossible.
No one would do this.
Of course, the weight would be more evenly distributed
and back over my arm.
We're not arguing that.
We're just trying to add weight to this blow
to see how much more damaging it will be
to the center block on the edge of the shield.
So let's see what happens.
We'll see how fast I can accelerate it.
It does more damage.
Besides losing the cap,
and it seems to have a little more tip off
than before, not too impressive slow.
Let me try this one more time.
Let's see what happens here.
I'm not seeing it.
No, it's useless.
It would hurt you.
No one's arguing that.
You can break a rib,
but I wouldn't want the extra weight.
If I could make a lighter shield that would last,
I would rather have that than this.
I'd rather have a 14.5 shield,
15, 16 pound shield like this
to actually fight with when I could move it
and do what I need to do with it.
You know what I'm saying?
Then have the extra weight.
I don't see it.
It wouldn't be worth it.
It's not going to help you do more damage,
punching somebody from what I tell them.
We'll try out some more tests here today.
Here, he's wearing a Visby coat of plates.
A lot of the later century samurai armor
was the same kind of thing.
They were iron plates.
They were on the outside of the laces together,
not on the inside.
A lot of people were arguing that.
We tested in the other video,
we tested them in a scale type armor,
which was earlier century.
They also had mail.
We'll try to test everything we can in this video
as accurately as possible.
This is born to test the seat belt.
So let's see what we got.
What I'm saying is,
this is punching with the edge of the shield.
I'm hitting plate.
Samurai would have armor and padding.
I can see it not even knocking me back
if I'm cutting your head off.
So I'm not seeing all these plates.
Did you hit him?
Anything.
Oh, yeah.
Dead.
No.
This is the one that they're trying to say
was a big killer in 45 Gs.
They're coming across this way.
This is going to hurt a bit.
I'm good.
His eyes look good.
I can see pushing it back.
I don't see killing a man in armor.
I'm sorry.
So all those kills they gave the samurai,
you know, the 200 something kills
and the 400 something on the ninja.
This is a problem I have with this overhead shot.
If you were to grab it while I'm trying to do it.
Do it again.
I can't even hit him.
You're telling me a ninja ain't going to see this.
And to stop it with his bare hand.
And if I try to punch it, what if he moves?
This is my problem.
The samurai is going to be used to this kind of stuff.
I'm in here trying to get in.
I throw a punch.
This whole shield weighs 24 pounds.
I'm not going to be able to balance it.
I don't think this was a tactic unless it was opportune.
I'm right here.
We're fighting.
I do this.
Yeah.
And that's about it.
It'd be a softening up blow to do something else.
Okay.
This is my SDA Viking shield.
And what we're going to do with this
is we're going to test it too
to see what kind of impact he got.
Because we noticed on the bricks,
it seemed to put out a little bit more speed.
I got more range of motion.
It's got a longer reach.
And I'm going to try to hit him with this
and see what this does.
I'll hit you with a medium blow here.
Oh, man.
That was as bad as a big blow from the basket.
That was medium.
Can you take a harder one?
Let's try it.
Oh, that's worse than the apple.
I don't want another one.
Are you sure?
Yeah.
No.
You want to try a light one with this?
Let's try it.
This moves too fast.
This is like hitting him with a medieval weapon.
I got a little whiplash from that.
Are you all right?
Yeah, I'm good.
I'm good.
That's what they tested on the show.
I know we're still on camera here,
but they tested a light shield.
Something that's more modern made of aluminum.
So it moves fast.
You can wear it all day
from eight o'clock in the morning
to five in the afternoon.
You don't have to be a warrior
for hundreds of years to be able to do it.
That's what they tested.
They tested something that moved really fast.
And then tried to add weight.
That hurt.
Tried to add weight.
Are you all right?
Yeah, I'm good, bro.
He's got to go to work.
So if he has a concussion, it's my fault.
Sorry, but we figured the human is the only way to go.
I'm sorry.
And I knew it wouldn't kill him.
I know it's illegal in the SCA to punch with a shield
because there's no way to make one totally legal
because of the weight of it.
This is why.
If I nailed him with this,
this Viking shield weighing nine pounds
would have laid him out,
probably knocked him out.
I don't think it would have killed him.
It would have been a knockout.
But you get my point.
See you later.
This is Thrand.
We're looking at the wounds that El Gramir sustained
from the shield bashing.
Which one did this to you right over here?
That was the Viking shield.
That was on the second impact.
And what was this over here?
You don't know, sure.
That's probably just some plates that cut into you.
We didn't use any padding this time.
That's plates cutting into me.
And that was from you shoving me with the asbestos.
So the asbestos did hurt.
But I don't think the shoving could do any broken bones.
No, no.
That's the only wounds you got right now.
This is Thrand again talking about Viking versus samurai
and the sword and shield technique.
What they didn't also account for is you have a pommel.
And they did account for the shield.
But I think he used it incorrectly.
But a Japanese faceplate is what?
It's just metal over the face with some padding.
This will shatter a skull.
This would kill a man in a helmet.
This represents the ribs and the body and the bone.
This is that faceplate.
Here we go.
Oh, man.
Oh, yeah.
You split that skull.