The Final Episode: Recapping Our Lessons Learned From 2024

Welcome back time and download, you know, it's crazy chase every single time that countdown timer is going on Riverside I always hear the song bump bump bump, but put it up up. Yes our song. Yeah. Yeah, that's funny I sometimes I think I hear it too. That's funny. It plays in my head Welcome back everybody. Welcome back chase man. What's going on? Dude, I'm very bittersweet. This is our last one at least for the time being I'm I'm excited to get a little bit of time back, but I'm sad because I'm gonna miss you and our listeners Mm-hmm. Yeah, I you know, it doesn't sound like a lot of time like 40 minutes a week is like or 40 minutes Uh, it's really a month. I think it's really do like two episodes But no, I I think here's okay. So for everybody we talked about this for a while Um, we went back and forth trying to figure out like what's what's best for the boys chase got his podcast and i'm trying to go Hard on my own content and we have a bank of How many episodes have been like in the 60s or 70s Probably. Yeah, it's probably been a couple years worth of doing a couple a month Yeah Yeah, I think 60 or 70 episodes together There's a lot of content hours and hours and hours that you guys can go through I would say if you get if you get sad and you miss us just walk them all again. Okay today I want to do uh, I mean considering it's the last one of the year and then the last one I guess ever I wanted to do like the top three things we've learned in 2024. So I mean I don't know about you chase. This year flew by how do you feel about 2024 in general? Yeah, it's crazy. I think for me now that I have kids I relate everything to like my kids ages and my youngest daughter is almost two for me. That's just like oh my god I feel like she was just born and I feel like she was just one so it's it's flown by crazy Crazy crazy. Yeah, I what would how about this before we go into like what we've learned? What would you rate the year? Out of 10 If you could give it a ranking 10 For you Yeah, I mean I made the most amount of money i've ever made and worked the least amount and had probably the most fun So i'd say it was a 10. What about for yourself? That's interesting. I would say like a 7 or an 8. Um, I think 2023 Would be like a 9 or a 10. I try to not rank things 10 ever like food people Years, I try to not rank things 10 I would say honestly 2024 was like a 7.6 had a lot of high highs a lot of low lows a lot of things that you know, just Whatever like I learned a lot. I think this is a very formative year for me. I'm 25 now, dude. I'm getting old Actually look younger today than you did the last episode Yeah, I shaved and showered. I don't know. I'm getting younger. You're getting older. I'm getting younger Yeah, how is this happening dude anyway, maybe I need a daughter or two to like to bring me back to like 21 um But yeah, no, okay. I yeah a lot of growth this year a lot of things that maybe I would have done different Whatever it is what it is. Um, you want to jump right into it? You care if I go first? Yeah, why don't you go you go first, right? Yeah, sure So we each have three things that we've learned in the year 2024 that we want to share with our beloved diamond downloaders Okay, first one that I got Is to invest way more time into building and mastering your ideal environment both physical and social so um I Have really leveled up This sort of like aesthetic and social game in 2024 Um, I think I I think I look better. I think I dress better. I think the people i'm around are better I think i'm, you know actively trying to do more kind of in my community there are a couple things so like the first side of that is like the aesthetic thing where it's like I know it's rich coming from me where I have literally two pieces of furniture in my in my apartment here um but I think aesthetically like Making like okay. So I bought a ferrari this year. I started to get into fashion and looking good Um, I have lost a considerable amount of weight Um again, I i've done it twice now Um, and I I feel like everything around me like I love the city i'm in I love the view that I have I just feel like the things around me are beautiful and I like actively try and make that Happen, you know what I mean? It's not by accident I like really tried to go above and beyond with like what my eyes get to see every day No ugly people on the team. No ugly sales guys Um, I try and make everybody on the team is beautiful um, and it's just it makes life really nice, you know, I mean like it's I I really don't ever get that like Disgust feeling of like oh, like where am I? Like even when I spend time in toronto like I I go pretty high end on the hotels Um, i'm not like splashing crazy money, but I I really try to like make sure that i'm in a place that looks nice I'm booking a trip right now Um to go to mexico soon for like probably 10 days Um, like i'm sparing no expense on the villa that I want to get because I want to shoot content in it I want to just wake up and feel wow. This is amazing. So that's the one thing the second thing the sort of like social environment I have made a lot of connections this year met a lot of people Done a lot of cool things and i'm i'm sort of like taking all of this like I guess potential that I have this year and in 2025 I kind of want to make like a real name for myself like in the city like there's a lot of stuff that I want to do to sort of become like that's That you know the guy that does this thing or throws these parties or hosts these events or like, you know, whatever I really do want to like start to build up mason in miami and um like I said Between all the connections that I've made this year and like the things i've learned about like what is doable Um and how people like to go to events and stuff like that like I really want to sort of start to build that up and I think like That's something that most people kind of are in the passenger seat of Where people you know are in the environment they're in because like they're in apartment they can afford and they drive a car that they can afford and they kind of they go to work and then they Go to the gym that is just like closest to their house. It's like they don't really think about like how to sort of like build their Entire space that they take up. Yeah, uh both, you know social and physical and that's one thing i've been very conscious of this year dude, I love the part about just being known for something right like I don't know if you just get a cardinal at your at your crib and you throw something once a month where people come play Cards or something and I don't know right the whole new molly's game. You see that you see that movie all these games I know what you're talking about yeah, like I don't know I think doing something right that like whether it's a restaurant that you partner with and you throw some kind of Really cool event that maybe it's a fundraiser for something that you're really passionate about and you know Once a month once a quarter a couple times a year You get like the coolest people together to just raise money for something that you're really passionate about right And then your identity and the identity of whatever you're passionate about kind of form this life I don't know. I think that's really cool I don't know what that is for you But I don't know if it's cars and coffee that you host in miami or whatever it might be I think there's something cool you could do for sure Yeah, I think it's also kind of inspired by the conversation. We had last week where we were talking about basil and um cool stuff that people are doing and like I'm assuming it'll probably be like we find an event space and just kind of throw parties just like private little you know cool high-end parties um, because we want females there too chase i'm not playing poker with a bunch of the boys, you know, I mean like I would love to have some some women there um But yeah, no, I mean i'm thinking about it. I'm talking to some of my buddies like promoters i'm talking to ben I think ben wants to get involved same with jimmy. But yeah, I think that that's been huge for me this year sick, I love that one the one that I was thinking about for me was The cost of the inconvenience is really expensive um, and what I mean by that is like i'm just trying to make my life more convenient because by doing things that Are not convenient doing things that I don't want to do Um, i'm not happy about doing them or you're basically paying a price for something that isn't fulfilling so everything from like dude every Time I get my blood drawn someone comes to my house now to do it versus me driving And leaving my house because I don't like to leave my house and going and waiting 30 or 45 minutes to get my blood drawn Um, you know, I didn't realize i was going to the dentist every three months I didn't realize they had me on a quarterly plan. I've now switched that to uh, you know One time every four months right and even just something simple like that I go to the dentist now one less time per year, but my teeth still stay really healthy and clean So i'm just thinking about like all the little things and even the big things. I don't like to do I don't like to cook right. I don't really like to do dishes I don't like to do a lot of these things So it's like I just told my wife like let's just we're just doordash people or we're just uber eats people That's just who we are like every day every night Whatever it is Like I just want to wake up and whatever we're feeling like we're gonna do we talked about the private chef thing We realized that that's probably more inconvenient because they're in your space You're having to figure out, you know groceries and tell them what to do and whatnot I just want to look at a menu and order things So for me i'm really leaning into the fact that I don't want to be inconvenient. I really want to be convenient I really want to have that time that energy that mental capacity that i'm spending on silly things being stressed Just really focus on Work fitness family, etc. So for me, that was kind of the first one that came to mind for me dude 1000% agree with that you're preaching the choir here man. Like I know I know I knew you'd like that one I'm pissed because I gotta fly commercial back to canada when I go back on sunday i'm not excited for it man, like i'm gonna have to like Look at myself in the mirror and really question like who I am before I go Like all kinds of stuff one of my favorite things to spend money on is convenience I like things that happen fast. I like things that are easy and frictionless. Like I love that. I love that always like prioritize like Getting things done faster and easier Yeah, they don't have to cost. Yeah, they don't have to cost a lot of money, right? Obviously the the private jet that's the one that costs a lot of money. That's not one that i'm doing That's one that obviously you you really enjoy but a lot of these things i'm just like I just want to save time like even For example, I was going once a month to get a prescription Like I was driving. I don't know 10 minutes each way to get a prescription once a month. I called the doctor I was like, hey, can you just give me this on a quarterly or semi-annual basis? And they're like, oh, yeah for sure And now i'm driving one less time to the pharmacy right like each month i'm driving once a quarter It was just silly small things like that. They don't sound That big but when you save one trip each month and you save one less doctor visit each time you say one less census visit Like in the aggregate you're saving a lot of time. So it's really interesting 100 and it's just like the mental effort of like yes I want to do this. It kind of feels like a flex like it feels good to have stuff brought to you like doordash Who reads like snog don't get me started. Do you have like your spots where it's like? You have I order from like the same like maybe three to five places For all of my like I guess 10 plus meals per week. Like I don't really change it up too much Do you have like your same spots where you eat the same thing kind of every day Yeah, more or less like what kind of like what kind of more like be like, all right on tuesday We do taco tuesdays. We order mexican. We'll kind of rotate between a few different mexican spots. So we have like categories we like Taco tuesday tonight. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, exactly Exactly. Uh shay is obsessed with chipotle. I'm so sick of chipotle at this point Like she loves it so much that we get it for her all the time Um, but we have like certain days where like we'll do mediterranean and we pick from a couple spots So we have a lot of different I think we probably order from 15 or 20 spots depending on the day depending on What menu we've selected whether it's american or italian or you know, mexican whatever etc Man, you guys are the best parents ever. Do you know what I had to do? Back in 2005 to 2008 to get my dad to order us a pizza What would you have to do I have to beg like on my knees like dad Like I would have to cry to get a pizza now. Oh my god Your kids are spoiled. They don't even know what we had to go through because i'm sure like when you were a kid And you're a 90s kid parents were not like Chipotle's at the door like it was like you had to you had to pay with blood sweat and tears for pizza You had to earn it Oh, yeah, I mean for us I think we got to have pizza once a week when we went to uh blockbuster on fridays like our thing was like after school on fridays, we go to blockbuster get a movie and order pizza, right but like Outside of that, you know, and we had to go pick it up, right? Like it wasn't being delivered to us the click of a button on an app like it's it's yeah The kids nowadays are definitely Spoiled or blessed if they want to look at it. What's yeah, what's your what's your second tip? I was gonna say that was a lesson that we learned in 1999 Or something like that. That's a whole different My second one Is um, I have the bullwhip effect is very real. So this is pretty simple We talked about the bullwhip effect before I kind of got the term from jeremy haynes But it's kind of like a universal thing that you deal with in business and just kind of in life The stuff that you're doing now Does it doesn't really show the fruit of its labor until months later? so like for you could do three months straight worth of work that you have no idea if it's like Working or not or like what the plan is and then it's like three to six months after that. You're like, oh That's what that was. Like I noticed that with um with tiktok and this is sort of like the inverse effect too where it's like We were so I basically kind of paused tiktoks. I I grinded all year in 2023 Made like an average of like a video and a half a day. Yeah, uh for from like from january to december and then for most of like the first half of 2024 I lived off basically royalties of those tiktoks like those customers that we made in 2023 like We were able to eat off that For you know months after and I think it's important to remember that like that build up Like you can't let it slip and also like it will feed you for a long time So like that's kind of like the motivation everywhere. It's like if you want to work hard now It's the same thing when I started freelancing, bro like I I a lot of like networking and outreach and pitching and grinding and stuff like for the first like probably six to Eight months and then after that All of it was inbound because I'd done so much work to build up my reputation in the industry You were throwing me deals other guys were structuring me deals like people found me on twitter And it was just like a spiderweb effect where it's like I didn't really have to do that much hard work anymore Because I had a full pipeline because of the work I did at the beginning and so Um same thing with with social life. Um, i'm talking about that a lot these days because it's like super important to me I don't know if people like really care. I do my email list and on instagram and whatever but that it's like a big thing I think people should care more about um, like Yeah, the work you do now the friends you start to make now the connection starts to make um will blossom and at 10 x's over time the bullet effects kind of Yeah, essentially. I didn't I didn't know that was the term for it but i've been talking about that same thing for a long time where like I would tell Nick and jake and other partners and other team members that like the reason that we're doing well today Isn't because the stuff we're doing today. It's because the stuff that we did over the last 3 6 12 months, right? A lot of things they don't they're not short, right? They're not like immediate gratification There's like this long tail to it, right? If you think about marketing, you know kind of the I guess the bullwhip is more like the seo, right? the fruits your labor's kind of planted today and you're going to see whether that tree or that kind of flower blossoms in 3 6 9 or 12 months and if it does Like it's going to pay dividends for a long time, right? Like you're going to have this fruit tree that produces avocados or oranges or whatever it might be for Years and years to come because you planted the seed today and you did the work on upkeeping it, right? So yeah, just having like the conviction to see things through having the conviction that although you know It might be a gamble that it could really pay off and it's going to need some consistence and persistence and You'll kind of know when you know and until then you just need to have faith yeah, and like even the stuff like you were saying like the marketing stuff that you do net like Yeah, like a blog or okay. Let's let's use email for example, because that's pretty immediate, right? Yeah, let's say you're doing an email a day for like Four months and like every time people are buying stuff like that You could probably stop doing emails and you would be remembered For the fact that you were like you had banger emails every single day for four months though. Like that is then your brand like in that whole cohort even if they didn't buy then off those emails they're gonna be like Chase's brand like that brand that did all those emails like they're so dude. We're not really strangers I haven't gotten anything from them in a long time But the the lasting effect that their marketing had on me from way back in the day because they were consistent and good Lasker, you know, I'm in it like it really does sort of like brain itself in your mind so Yeah, good stuff. What about uh, what about you? What's your second one? Uh, i'd say my second one is more kind of general kind of more about life and enjoyment and whatnot is that you need outlets you need channels to kind of Get away from the screen get away from the noise get away from the chaos, right? Um, there's a lot of I feel like lately there's been a lot of toxicity on social media in particular twitter People just calling each other out people starting to beef whether it's um I don't know whether it's called for or not. Not really my place to say I don't really know what happens beneath the surface, but there's certain things i've seen them just like why is this happening? Like it's just so unnecessary. So I think for people to have outlets is super important whether that be You know daily walks or daily meditation or um, you know for me lately it's been golf like i've been you know for a long time I thought i'm gonna golf a bunch when i'm retired and was like You don't know what health is gonna look like when you're 50 60 70 80, right? You might as well do the things that you enjoy today and find ways to kind of wean them in with other things you like so For me with christmas coming up and hanukkah coming up and whatever other things people celebrate My brothers and I are like hey, we're not doing gifts. We're going golfing, right? We went golfing on thanksgiving Um, you know, we take each other golfing for one on their birthday That's been a really cool thing for us to be able to spend four five six hours just messing around and making fun of each other and being competitive and just removing ourselves from like the Phones and the device and it sounds crazy But like they have more control and power over us than we think like just having that separation so important. I went golfing Um, I think on sunday. Yeah a couple days ago And I hadn't touched my phone from 8 a.m When I got to the driving range sold 3 p.m when I got home and I felt great man It felt so nice to just disconnect and be out there with some buddies and hang out so I think having like channels and outlets where Whether you're stressed or not stressed just making it a part of your routine Like i'm gonna start adding golf hopefully to my weekly calendar soon whether it's 9 or 18 holes just trying to find someone new or someone that I like to go golf with and Just get out get some fresh air and we're lucky here in california where we don't have seasons like dude It's the middle of winter some places. We're out golfing. It's like 67 degrees. It was fantastic Awesome, dude. Yeah, I I love how much you love golf because I think it's so important to have something like that like Yeah, you're right people do need people are tense man That's one thing I've realized Like Okay, you're you're still young enough to kind of probably remember like what you thought of adults when you were like, maybe 17 18 19 I didn't feel like an adult yet when I was that age I looked up to older people and I was just like that's just the way adults are they're adults They're a different species than me And then I got here and now they're kind of my peers Where it's like I have a lot in common with like a 30 year old or a 35 year old Even if there's like a huge generational gap there Yeah, and I think like oh we're the same like why are you so grumpy all the time? Like what's what's wrong with your life that you like Could do like when I had like teachers and stuff like that Like, um, there's this math teacher who was what a pill he was Mr. S i'm not gonna say his full name um out of respect for him because I think he's deep down a nice guy, but oh what a terrible like He was so grumpy all the time and just tormented like students that were even a little bit bad And I was like this guy is miserable and it's like it used to be like Oh, well, he's just an adult but it's like if I knew Knew someone like that now i'd be like, how do you live? Like how do you exist like that? I think like so few people Really have that like balance and like a life that they enjoy because they have Work that they enjoy people around that they're like whether it's family or friends And like a hobby like you have which is golf to like really kind of keep them just like Normal in their brains, you know, like a lot of people just like it's crazy How people just lose it at a certain age because they don't have that yeah, yeah, it's it's so it's so important right like i've noticed like yeah, you know you have to be aware of when you're happy and what gives you energy and what doesn't and You know if you're fortunate enough to understand and realize those things and you can make it a priority just shift around the schedule the priorities and Things that you know take energy from you and kind of bring you down Just try to do less of that and try to do more of the other things easier said than done. I know but what's Yeah, what's your third one i'm i've got my third one coming up right after this has been fun Yeah, are you enjoying this? Yeah, I want to hear your third one add to yours. I think that's such a Um I think Did I think I tweeted this? For you to create a life that you really love which we are both so fortunate to have It takes so much work and this is kind of like tying in what you just said and then the bullwhip effect where it's like A lot of people think that it's like it's just you know Getting a little bit in shape like dropping 10 pounds And um, maybe you know spending a little bit more time outside and like, you know Maybe change your career like dude. It's a lot It's a lot of work for people to really really change from like being deeply unhappy to like being deeply fulfilled like Like it's it's taken us so long to like To build the businesses that we have that fund the stuff we love to do it's taken us so long to like build um Like hobbies and stuff that we're good at in social circles like you have your like we both have brothers So we're we're kind of good kind of got that built in but like Making friends and like having those like deep friendships takes a long time like ---- takes a long time Yeah, and like I think people Underestimate how easy it is. They think about it. They're like I can do it and then they kind of just never do anything But no man like if someone's like really unhappy right now, I think it's it's a It's gonna take like two three years for you to fix everything, but i'm telling you Especially if you're like under 40 like that's the majority of your life that will be better if you are able to go through and just like Change small things and like go and build yourself up so you can not be unhappy like that sucks I can't imagine living like that I like it. Yeah, I agree four percent Okay solid, um, okay last one for me Is a short one. My dad used to say this to me all the time And um, it was never really relevant because I was a child My dad had all these fired little tidbits when I was a kid that I like never really Like cheated, but this one is he used to say trust but verify And it was always like when people like kids my age would tell me stuff where it's like Did you know that the moon actually has like arms and legs or something? I'd tell my dad that I'd be like dad, you know moon has arms and legs and he's like And then he would tell me like trust but verify and i've so I mean dude like we've grown You know in terms of the business like a lot like we started the year with like I think six people and now we have 20 Wow, like new coaches and sales guys and stuff like that. Um a lot of friendships and like little relationships and stuff that i've kind of been through where i've just realized that like most people In general Are liars not because they're inherently bad but because they're ashamed and they they always feel the need to like save their own ass um like I've had a lot of like I guess employees or contractors or whatever like Just like not hold up their end of the bargain And like make me look bad and make everyone else look bad like everyone else on the team and the customers too and like And it's just like I I used to just be like a very like trusting person like and I I used to like that about Myself where it's like anytime someone said something I was usually gone on their team and be like, all right This person's being honest. I've usually taken a face value I've learned now that that it's like actually rare For people to like be a hundred percent truthful about like what is and what isn't and like maybe this is kind of a sad one but I don't think it's sad I think it's good because like I think it's part of maturity to sort of like really be able to discern like what is real and what's not and um it's also made me more honest because i've Been confronted with the fact that if other people are doing that like I probably am too and I realize that without even Thinking about it. I tell little white lies and I just like leave stuff out and just like, you know, I mean and so like 2024 is where I feel like i've Become sort of like radically honest Whereas like when people ask me my opinion i'm gonna be straight up like I don't mince words anymore Really? I'm gonna try and tell you in a nice way, but i'm gonna tell you what I really think Because like you asked me so i'm gonna tell you and like, you know If there's something uncomfortable that I have to talk to somebody about I'm, just gonna be real about it I'm not gonna like, you know Try and it's too it's a lot of mental energy to like be shifty and sneaky and stuff like that and I hate it I hate it. But um It's also taught me like the flip side which is like most people are doing that too and so anytime i'm dealing with an employee or a girl in my life or a Friend of a friend like my boys i'm lucky are super super solid like I know they're good but like mutual friends or whatever just people I have to deal with on a day-to-day basis like I always Try not to be too trusting of like what they say and um I think it's it's a good sort of like self-defense mechanism that uh Has actually made my life better. You think that like, oh you have trust issues like that can't be fun. It's like no I actually like I I operate better in this mindset because i'm operating in reality. And so i've taken that with me So like yeah, I always heard growing up, you know, take everything with a grain of salt, right? There's a lot of truth to what people are saying and there's probably some underlying things that aren't as factual and I don't think people do it. Like you said intentionally. I think a lot of it happens Just because it happens and someone's kind of compensating for something so Yeah, it's hard to know though on the surface like who and what is or isn't accurate So I think for me it's like I try not to make decisions when i'm having conversations with people I've just met on the fly Because I want to be able to take time to reflect on well, how did that conversation make me feel? Um, what kind of research can I do on the person? um, you know, was there anything that when I said it my mind was like I've never heard that before that doesn't really sound true So I kind of when I meet people for the first time I always assume that they're good and great unless they prove otherwise, but I always try to If there's any asks that are happening from that side, it's like hey, cool. Sounds good. I've heard you Let me get back to you, right? Just so that way like you have more information you can kind of see how you feel before you commit to something 100 Cool, it's hard growing up, man. Yeah for sure. I'd say my last one. Uh Is when you find things that are working when you find things that you're passionate about like Just doubling down and being all in um, and I think earlier this year I think it's been almost a full year and we were talking about like the linkedin business for example And you're like dude, why don't you just go harder? I'm like, I don't know. I'm lazy I'm, whatever um, and a I wish I'd gone harder sooner and b i'm glad I went harder when I did right like And I think like I own a lot of businesses. I do a lot of things you own a lot of business do a lot of things Um when you're all in on certain things, it's pretty obvious what things you shouldn't be doing, right? um, so a couple of my business like two of my businesses are pretty much getting all my love and everything else is kind of like Falling by the wayside not that they're failing or doing poorly But just kind of allocated other leadership there and kind of have been really transparent about This is what I can and can't do like if you want me a part of it still great If you don't i'll walk away like no no harm no foul um, just really being all in because when you're all in on a few things like A you're giving it your best and it has the best opportunity of succeeding and b It makes everything else that you're not all in on You know pretty apparent and obvious no's or not right now's right and everyone says right if it's not a heck Yes, or a hell. Yes, or you know an fps whatever it might be. It's a no um that I think when you're all in really shows you the things that you should be saying no to because it's so easy just to feel suckered or feel um Kind of like you have to say yes to someone or say yes to something And really, you know kind of do yourself and do that person a disservice so for me i'm just trying to focus on these two or three things that i'm all in on right now and Everything else is just like if I get around to it sure maybe but realistically probably not I agree, man. Yeah. No you killed this year. I think like Everything kind of like came together. I love how your personal brand is evolving too Because like and this is one thing this is probably the the thing that I think has made you That one of the best in the game is that like I remember all the personal brands that lived and died in 2020 to like 2022 People that started on twitter or wherever else they had newsletters. They had linkedin whatever And then they were like 2019 2020 and then just fell off and you know, I don't know what they're doing for money now But you have found a way To evolve everything you're doing Like so many different times Like you're in the middle of doing it again, like you're you're branching into like a new form of media that you were like previously not familiar with um, and I think that's dope because you're like rare that you're This much bigger now than you were in 2020. A lot of people have like the nostalgia factor a lot of people that started back then that are just That like are still even trying to go but there's like no one cares to listen to them anymore You're still relevant. You're still doing your thing and you're growing which is unreal, dude Much love. I appreciate that big time man. This was I don't I guess hell of a season This obviously was a great episode. What a what a run what a season um Let us know if you guys are listening to us if you're gonna miss us or not. Hopefully hopefully you do Um, I had told you the other day shout out to um, chris lang He was the one that posted on linkedin his top listen to podcast and I believe we were number two I don't remember what his number one was I think it might have been maybe it was alex ramosi But we are his number two most listened to podcast for all of 2024 And a couple other people, uh shared that with me as well So that was kind of cool that our podcast just two dudes with A lot of random opinions and thoughts on things. Um happened to be people's most listened to so that was really cool Yeah, yeah for real shout out everybody who like has tuned into this like chase and I I mean i'll speak for you on this one. Like we've had a great time doing this um, like these these podcasts are super chill and like I don't want to say low effort because that makes it sound like we don't trial But I mean like no we get to hop on and just talk some ---- Like it's not like a whole production. Like this is us just being us This is what we talk about if the cameras were off So if you do enjoy it, obviously we got chase on twitter linkedin his you know his email I'm sure you're gonna start going hard on youtube econ chase diamond Uh, no a and diamond and then we got cardinal mason on twitter tiktok and youtube And if you want to follow me on instagram, it's at cardinal mace m a s e And we will continue to provide value in ways. Um that you may or may not be able to imagine All right Much love brother and thank you everyone again Cheers, dude