Marin County protestors calling for 'No ICE' resolution

In Marin County, there are calls for supervisors to pass an ordinance against ICE. No ICE in Marin! The demonstrators in San Rafael protested inside the Marin County building, calling for supervisors to pass a measure that blocks the use of county resources for immigration enforcement. Some of the speakers at the hearing said they fear the ICE operations in the North Bay. I'm still afraid for the older Latinos they can come to because they are afraid to speak or they work in here. Out of the nine Bay Area counties, Marin is one of two that has passed neither an ice-free Marin ordinance nor a sanctuary county. We want to send a message that we are standing in solidarity with our immigrants. We need to protect our entire community. We have been speaking for over one year. We should be getting your salary because none of you are doing anything. Now, by tomorrow, the county plans to post the proposed no ice policy resolution online. Then the supervisors are expected to debate it and possibly take a vote on it next Tuesday. Now, that leads us right to our political science professor, David McKeown from Sonoma State. David, good morning. Good to see you. Good morning, Dave. Nice to see you. It's a hot issue. So do you think Marin County will block the use of county resources for immigration enforcement? Well, look, I mean, counties are at the pointy end of the spear here. Counties provide health care. They obviously provide law enforcement. And when it comes to immigration and you think about what's happening, not just in California, but up and down the West Coast, this pushback against ICE places a lot of pressure for counties to do one of two things. Are you going to have an ordinance, which is a permanent law, or are you going to have a resolution? The California attorney general recommends resolutions. Resolutions are faster. They can be removed. They can be altered. They can be edited. And so when you look at that, it would be likely that Marin would come out with the resolution avenue as the ordinance avenue. We saw those protesters in Yannick Katsuyama's story as well yesterday, which looked at, look, this is a debate where the protesters and the anti-ICE folks want something much stronger. They want to see ordinances. And tied to that, Dave, are what are called judicial warrants. Rather than having ICE roaming around the streets looking for people, a judicial warrant would be about specific individuals. So providing greater protections for individuals, another element of the anti-ICE protesters that we saw in Marin County and then Marin County juggling this ordinance versus resolution approach. And David, before you go, what do you make of the level of frustration and the demonstration of anger against this type of thing? What do you make of that and whether this could make something happen? Look, there's always this broad stroke, broad brush against Marin County, right? Kind of out of touch, elite, Chardonnay sipping, liberal kind of thing. When you look at Bay Area counties and two out of nine counties in the Bay Area that don't have any type of ordinance resolution, Marin County being one of them, you would think that with a year of protests, the Board of Supervisors would do something. And therefore, this has really kind of reached a tipping point. And with California's strong laws backing an anti-ICE kind of agenda, it's a hot issue, not just for the election, but also moving forward. So you should see some response by Marin. we've reached that tipping point where something should happen. It looks more like a resolution than an ordinance. Let's see if it has components, again, of things like a judicial warrant. And as always, we will all be watching. David McEwen, our political science professor at Sonoma State, always good to see you. Thank you for being with us on Mornings on 2. Great being with you, Dave. Thank you.