Meta Is In Serious Trouble (And Wall Street Is Freaking Out)

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Fears about what Meta just reported have spread into bonds, both selling and buying, producing a huge UST rally...and more. Facebook's parent unleashed chaos with more capex and negative cash flow. Meta shares dropped more than 6%. Its bonds weakened relative to Treasuries. The price of credit protection on the company jumped to a record.
And that was just the beginning of a big day in bond-land.
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Fears about what Meta just reported have spread into bonds,
both selling and buying.
Facebook's parent reported another enormous increase
in future spending commitments tied
largely to computing power and AI infrastructure.
You know the story by now.
Those commitments just for Meta have climbed to roughly $825 billion,
up from nearly $700
billion in July, a huge increase in a short amount of time.
At the same time, Meta's quarterly free cash flow turned negative,
negative $2.12 billion
compared with a positive $10.6 billion during
the same quarter last year.
Meta's shares dropped more than 6%.
Its bonds weakened relative to Treasuries,
and the price of credit protection
on the company jumped to a record high.
And it wasn't just Meta.
Credit default swaps for Oracle, Microsoft,
and Broadcom have also moved higher.
SoftBank has lost half its market value since June
as investors focus on its leverage and borrowing costs.
CoreWeave's debt has already fallen to levels associated with distress,
while credit markets have priced
a greater than 60% probability of default within five years.
Yesterday, we went through why the AI math doesn't work.
Today, markets started trading the consequences.
Investors sold AI-related stocks
and corporate credit and bought treasuries.
Treasury yields are down again as the yield curve continues to flatten,
with September's technical effects fading
and the underlying economic
and financial fundamentals regaining their control.
There is also an extreme, historically unusual divergence developing
between bill rates and term SOFR rates that I'll get to here.
One side of the market is looking for another Federal Reserve hike.
The other is aggressively hedging against the possibility
that deteriorating credit, weaker consumers,
and an AI correction will stop the Fed from ever getting to it.
This isn't the bond market celebrating AI,
it's the market preparing for what happens
when a debt-fueled investment boom runs into cash flow reality.
A reality where the bond market math just doesn't add up.
Start with bond market reaction
because there are two very different kinds of bond trading
taking place today.
Investors are selling or demanding greater compensation
to hold corporate bonds connected
with the AI build-out.
At the same time, they're buying safe
and liquid government bonds again now that TGIF is here.
Thank God it's October.
Meta's five-year credit default swap rose
as high as roughly 119 basis points,
which is the highest level since
those swaps began actively trading about a year ago.
Its 5.25% bonds due in 2036 weakened with their spread over
Treasuries widening approximately six basis points to around 120.
Now, six basis points by itself doesn't sound catastrophic.
Meta remains enormously profitable with substantial resources,
but the direction matters,
as does how that fits into the wider context.
This is a company that had been treated as one
of the safest participants in the AI investment
cycle, yet its credit risk gauge surged
to a record immediately after investors learned
future commitments had grown by another $125 billion
to a ridiculous $825 billion.
That's the market asking an extremely important question.
Where does all this money come from?
And the treasury market's answer is equally revealing.
The two-year yield fell to 4.69%, while the 10-year was below 5%.
This is what risk migration looks like, at least in the short run.
Investors aren't merely changing their opinions about whether
meta shares deserve a higher or lower earnings multiple.
They're reconsidering the financing structure,
supporting the entire AI boom.
Corporate risk premiums go up, treasury yields go down.
Debt markets are taking control of the narrative.
The fundamental problem
is that the AI investment cycle always starts out like any other cycle,
assuming the adoption process is going to go smoothly,
when it never, ever does.
In fact, it follows the same pattern as we went over yesterday.
The optimistic model says companies spend hundreds
of billions of dollars building data
centers, customers rapidly adopt AI services,
productivity immediately surges, and new revenue
arrives just in time to pay off everything
but the costs as we know are immediate the revenue
on the other hand is hypothetical
and in the future data centers have to be built now chips
have to be purchased today there's always
a collection energy contracts leases network
capacity they all have to be secured right away engineers have got
to be paid meanwhile customers
have to determine whether these products even work whether they can
be integrated into existing
systems and whether they generate savings large enough
to justify their huge costs.
Adoption is going to happen,
but it will not proceed in a straight line because nothing
ever goes in a straight line.
There will be implementation failures, budget constraints,
disappointing productivity, other kinds of delays,
and customers willing or unable to pay what AI
providers need to charge. That's what Ken Griffin was talking about.
It's especially dangerous
because so much of the cycle depends
on debt markets remaining cooperative.
So CoreWeave represents the more vulnerable end of that structure.
Its data center expansion has been financed by issuing debt.
Its bonds have fallen to distressed levels,
its credit protection has surged, and its shares have been hammered.
SoftBank is exposed through a highly leveraged network of investments
spanning AI infrastructure, energy, robotics, and technology companies.
Its stock has fallen 50% since June, while the cost of insuring
its debt has reached the highest level in nearly four years.
And yes, there's always a correction.
There's always a correction.
Meta is far stronger than either company,
but when even Meta produces negative free cash flow,
while reporting $825 billion in future commitments,
investors naturally begin to question the entire chain.
The technology can be real while the financial model still fails.
history is filled with transformative
technologies that were accompanied by
terrible investments excessive leverage
and companies that just don't survive
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but now let's get back to the rest of our video and this brings us
maybe unexpectedly to an unusual
and historically significant divergence between treasury bills
and termed SOFR. This is something
that started developing earlier in the energy shock a couple
months ago, but the proportions it's gotten to now,
never seen anything like this before.
At the very front of the market,
bill rates continue to reflect the possibility that the
Federal Reserve will react to recent reflation reports
with another rate hike, another tighten,
either next week or perhaps the December meeting.
Term SOFR rates and the hedging taking place
around them are sending a very different message.
That side of the market is heavily protecting
against the possibility that it won't be able to hike
because financial and economic conditions
are deteriorating too rapidly.
The divergence, as I said, has reached an extreme level by
historical standards. This isn't a schizophrenic market.
It's one market pricing two stages of the
same policy mistake. Stage one is the Fed looking backward at the CPI,
the PPI, and elevated energy
prices, then concluding it needs more tighten.
Stage two is credit markets looking forward to
consumers, leveraged borrowers, and debt-dependent AI companies,
then concluding the economy won't
be able to withstand all of that. Too many headwinds.
Bills are closely connected to immediate
policy expectations, cash requirements,
and near-term financing conditions. It's a real
cash market. The term SOFR reflects expectations
and hedging from somewhat different investor
classes. They don't have to send identical signals,
but typically they trade very close together. So
when the gap becomes this large,
it tells us that the range of expected outcomes is widening
dramatically and that the market expects the Fed
to behave irrationally, but any justification for
them to do so is rapidly disappearing.
That same distinction is visible in the treasury curve.
The Fed may still control the overnight rate,
but it does not control the markets or the credit cycle.
Which brings us right back to Meta.
Meta's purported negative free cash flow
is something that's impossible to ignore here,
especially given these circumstances and especially given the math,
the bond market math, the financing math,
the credit cycle math that we're all trying to face up to.
A year ago, third quarter free cash flow was positive $10.625 billion.
this quarter negative 2.12 billion its future leases
and non-cancellable contracts increased
to approximately 825 billion those commitments aren't
the same thing as 825 billion of debt due
tomorrow they stretch across time
and include obligations to support meta's broader business but
again the direction the context
are both unmistakable cash generation is falling just
as future spending obligations
are rising dramatically mark zuckerberg remains confident
the investment will produce enormous returns
and he may eventually be right but credit markets
don't have the luxury of relying entirely
on eventually debt has interest payments refinancing
dates and contractual obligations it has
to be serviced regardless of whether the monetization
schedule slips by six months two years or five years
and meta is only one participant we keep
seeing this over and over again the ai ecosystem
and it includes hyperscalers we've got chip
manufacturers, data center operators, plus utilities,
private credit funds, other leveraged
investment vehicles, and on and on and on.
Each depends on spending by all the others. One company
borrows to construct a data center
because another has committed to renting capacity based on demand
projections from a third business.
That structure works beautifully while funding remains cheap,
asset values keep rising,
and projected demand is treated as guaranteed. It becomes dangerous
When bond investors demand higher yields,
collateral values fall, or a major customer
reduces its capital spending plans,
and the debt market itself becomes more and more inelastic.
Stocks can ignore the arithmetic for a while.
Credit markets, they just can't.
That's why today's reaction is so important.
The pessimism isn't confined to equity traders
arguing about future valuation multiples.
It's entered the market responsible for funding the
boom itself. And the Treasury rally that's going along
with it gives us even more evidence and
more confidence in our interpretation of what happened,
especially in the second half of
September. And I'm talking about the September effects,
all three of them. TGIO, thank God it's
October, and the Treasury market as fundamentals
and curve dynamics reassert themselves without
the interference of the mechanical processes
that took place in September. The same technical
factors nobody ever talks about or have even noticed
and there were three september effects
the first was the recurring tendency
for global government bonds not just treasuries to drift
higher beginning at some point in august continuing through september
and sometimes into early october
the second of those was the quarter end balance
sheet bottleneck dealer capacity repo market
elasticity and collateral movement become more
constrained around quarter end two weeks before
the quarter end to be specific
and september's bottleneck tends to be particularly pronounced
the third of those involved leveraged treasury trades
and self-reinforcing positioning when repo
becomes inelastic or more expensive basis traders
for one may have to reduce their positions that
can require treasury selling
or just remove the marginal buyer from the marketplace which
accelerates the rise in long-term yields
those forces push long-term rates upward particularly
during the second half of September
and steepen the yield curve artificially in the short run.
Now, the mainstream interpretation
was that the bond market had suddenly discovered uncontrollable
inflation or excessive government debt.
Here comes treasury rejection or dramatically stronger
growth. But now September is fading and so is the sell off.
Rates are declining again with the yield
curve itself, right back to flattening to the point
of threatening inversion. Even supposedly
hot cpi and ppi reports last week were unable
to sustain higher treasury yields today ai and credit
anxiety adding even more to the safe haven buying that's why it's
so important to stay on top of
these market signals and interpret them properly
to be able to interpret them properly because the
yield going up doesn't automatically mean growth
or inflation on its own a yield going down doesn't
automatically mean the fed has become dovish you have
to understand the curve the funding markets
collateral mechanics swaps credit
and the economic fundamentals beneath all of them and this is again
why we're doing the webinar next Thursday October 29th
at 6 p.m. Eastern Time we're going to connect
these signals and go through how
to distinguish temporary market mechanics from genuine changes
in the economic and credit cycles that you really need
to to pay close attention to how do you sort
signal from noise in September perfect example
of how badly markets can be misinterpreted when
the fundamentals are ignored
so join me next Thursday October 29th 6 p.m. Eastern Time there's
a link in the description to sign up it is free
to attend it will be well worth your time to do so
and part of that is recognizing how
this AI anxiety isn't developing in a benign environment
the context matters we're talking about
and have been talking about the credit cycle downturn along
with macroeconomic hardship basically everywhere you look outside
the mainstream media and central
bank discussions. Triple C rated junk bond spreads blew through
the first real critical threshold of
1300 basis points, meaning investors
are now demanding roughly 1300 percentage points of
additional yield over government debt to hold some
of the weakest corporate borrowers. That is
getting to be an enormous risk premium,
one that you need to pay attention to because the triple
hooks, the triple C borrowers,
they tend to have the highest leverage, the weakest cash flow,
poor interest coverage, and limited refinancing options.
They're often smaller businesses exposed
directly to consumer demand
and financing conditions there's always a correction and
elevated energy costs make their situation worse
from both directions consumers have to spend more
on gasoline and utilities and transportation
which leaves them less for discretionary purchases like
at the convenience store small companies
then face higher operating costs at the same time their
customers are becoming let's use the term more uncertain
the company's expenses go up its revenue
becomes less reliable, its existing floating
rate debt remains expensive, refinancing becomes
more difficult, and that increases the default risk
and liquidity risk across the entire credit
system. And it also threatens the AI adoption assumption.
Businesses struggling with higher
energy bills, weak sales,
and expensive debt aren't going to adopt every new AI service simply
because a technology company built that capacity.
They're going to delay projects, they're going to
demand lower prices, and cut their experimental budgets.
The infrastructure may exist without enough profitable demand
to use it across the entire AI spectrum.
And that is how macroeconomic weakness feeds back into the AI cycle.
Slower adoption weakens cash flow.
Weaker cash flow raises credit risk.
Higher credit risk increases financing costs,
higher financing costs, forced spending cuts,
which slows the adoption even further.
Not only that, but making it more expensive
for that adoption to take place.
In the first place, the weakest borrowers showed the problem first,
which is why we pay attention to the triple hooks first.
Private credit exposed the first stage.
Junk bonds and leveraged loans made it public.
Now the concerns are reaching the supposedly safest companies
at the center of the AI boom.
And then you've got the rest of the treasury markets,
something like tips as well as swaps,
which just reinforce all the signals
that we're getting from the treasury curve itself.
The compelling message isn't just
that the 10-year treasury is below 5% today.
The compelling message
is the flattening yield curve set alongside negative swap spreads that are
becoming more negative again,
as well as tips break-evens that don't signal the hint of
accelerating inflation anywhere.
If markets believed higher energy prices were about to
produce a sustained generalized inflation cycle,
inflation break-evens should be surging. And they
just aren't. The market is treating energy as a tax on consumers
and businesses rather than the
beginning of a 1970 style wage price spiral
that by the way as i've shown you repeatedly is literally
impossible in these conditions the difference in income growth
and potential is just night and day
different and that's exactly what break-evens
are telling you swap markets are making the same
distinction that we see between bills and terms
so far there is room for another fed mistake in
the short run officials might hike again
or threaten to keep policy elevated because
backward-looking inflation reports remain uncomfortable.
But farther out, swaps continue
to point toward lower rates.
The market hasn't abandoned the expectation of economic deterioration.
It merely inserted the possibility
of one more policy detour before the credit cycle forces
the ultimate destination.
And that explains the renewed treasury buying. Investors aren't buying
long-term government bonds because they believe the economy is strong.
They're buying them because
AI credit risk, triple C deterioration,
weak consumers, flat beverage, downgrade in retail
sales and what that showed,
all of those things increased the probability of a more serious
downturn. The inevitable AI correction was always going
to hit once the marketplace started doubting
the assumptions that fueled the initial boom to begin with.
Nothing different here. It's the same
as we see in every technology cycle.
Equity investors can debate total addressable markets
decades into the future.
Bond investors, they need to know who will make the next interest
payment, who will be able to make the next interest payment.
That's why the debt markets
are in charge. So Meta's earnings reaction wasn't just another bad day
for technology stocks. It
goes much deeper than that,
especially given the broader context or context. Negative free cash
flow, $825 billion in future commitments
and record credit protection changed the conversation
from AI excitement to AI financing, the nuts and bolts.
And that concern spread across hyperscaler
credit, SoftBank, CoreWeave, even global stock markets.
At the same time, money moved toward
treasuries again, pushing the two-year yield to around 4.69
and a 10-year below 5%. September's
treasury market technical pressure is fading.
The curve is flattening. Tips aren't validating
sustained inflation. Swaps in terms
so far are hedging the economic consequences of another
possible Fed mistake. And triple C spreads tell us
the broader credit downturn is already well
underway. So the question is really
not about artificial intelligence and the technology.
It's about whether the debt finance companies
that are building it will be able to remain
liquid enough long enough into the future
for that promised revenue to arrive. And today,
the bond markets increasingly question those prospects.
There's always a correction.
