Denver Broncos Just Got a Winning Formula...
Oct 25, 2026
Oh my goodness. We're talking about a four-time All-Pro recipient,
a three-time Walter Payton Man of the Year finalist for the Broncos,
a two-time Pro Bowler, and number one in our hearts,
he's Justin Simmons. Simmons, how you living, big dog?
Man, what an intro. Are you kidding me, man?
I'm great, brother. I'm great. How are you?
Dude, I'm freaking out that I'm talking to you because I
watched you play and you were one of my son's favorite players.
And like, this is just an honor of a lifetime, dude.
So you hopped in as a rookie to this team
and it was essentially our Super Bowl
defense minus was like Trevathan was off the team,
and Brandon Marshall was in
which of our current defenders who I love.
I think this is my second favorite
defense could actually hang on that team.
You think, Oh, okay. So not replacing anybody. Yeah. Let's,
let's not even talk about it,
but like they can be in the same
sentence without people laugh about it.
Yeah, no doubt. J Mac is number one for me.
I mean, it goes without saying, Pat Sertan is,
I mean, I guess he would be the number one.
J-Mac number two.
The way that it's trending, Huff had a great year last year,
and he started off amazing this year.
Unfortunate with the injury, but Huff and B. Jones
are playing just as good as any safety combo in the league.
I feel bad. I feel like I'm about
to just name every single player on the defense.
that whole that whole front can hang with and that was it
and that was like who who was the
front when Super Bowl 50 is Malik Jackson, Derek Wolfe, DeMarcus Ware,
Von Miller you know so like
Nick Benito, Zach Allen, V.J. Jones, Coop, Roach like these guys
so there's a good amount of that that
defense man that that can really hang
and what i love is it's two totally different styles this one
with V.J. is very um attack style based almost like
a Brian Flores like he's constantly sending
pressure Wade Phillips definitely blitzed
but they were more four man five man rush we're
gonna play quarters and man we're just gonna beat you up like try
to beat us if you can like here's
a keep uh here's Chris here's TJ here's Robe here's Stu beat us
and no one could beat us
so we hear a ton like i've seen like 100 youtube shorts
on like how complex an
offensive play call is like right banana what
is it actually like uh in a defensive huddle
and is it is it the same thing where you got a green dot
and the defensive coordinator can talk
to you as long as he wants till it cuts out like what's it like
when a defensive call comes in
it's it's not nearly as complex i mean literally
not even close especially like a Sean Payton play
call it is like five sentences long you know
and so you have like for most offensive play calls you
have the initial call then you have the can
or the check um if the defense isn't presenting what
you want to run your first one
and normally the can is either a run opposite direction or it could
just be checking to like quick game
or screen depending if we're getting a whatever and so
defensive play calls are literally like uh it could just
be like split three jade like that's
a play call and in that play call uh you have different checks
though like two by two three by
one empty and that's where the defensive play calling can get
a little hectic because you have
a full list of plays that are not long at all maybe one sentence long
and you have to have the
checks within every call though
and every call has a different check and in vj's defense he was
explaining this to Kareem
and i were explaining this on on the first episode it's like the
responsibility that the safeties nickel
and linebackers have and turn like inside linebackers
like Alex and Justin Strnad i mean these guys like
if the tight end is in a three-point stance
and then goes to a two-point stance like it changes
your whole defensive the whole defensive
play call and so everyone has to get
the call everyone has to get the check there's a lot that
goes into it and um that's why like i think it's
its common information to say like a lot of the
times I think the stereotype is football players aren't intelligent oh
no and when it comes to
something like this I'm like I've worked with like
the smartest people I've ever been around
you know and I've been to Boston College I've
been around some really smart individuals and
the football field is where I'm meeting guys
that know how to process information at an absurdly
increased rate and be able to react just as quickly
which is really hard to do
so defensively man it could
be tough you're talking about advanced math and angles every
single play out there uh you mentioned Alex Singleton
and that is one of the players you
have crossover with a ton of the dudes on this team
and he's one of the guys who I feel like the
perception on Broncos social media sometimes
versus what I hear coaches say about him and
see coaches actions around him are so different what's
the actual take on Alex Singleton like is
he like do you is he a great player he is a great player
in recent history and in Broncos country
like you've had the Danny Trey
the Brandon Marshalls even like Todd Davis when he got
chance to be a starter and I'm just talking about guys
that I've played with like over the years
right like I didn't get to play with Danny Trey
but I obviously got to see him play and so um
there's a high level there's a high standard just like
at the safety position uh just like at the
corner position like Broncos defense has always had
a high standard no matter who was the coach
no matter what and so I'm explaining that because Alex
is coming into a city in a football country
that's like based on defense like we pride ourselves
the Orange Crush we pride ourselves
on great defense and so a lot of times like you just like look
at the film and you scrutinize a
bunch of different things and Alex would
be the first one to tell you like he's missed some
tackles he's missed some coverages
um offenses get paid too he'll be the first one to tell you
that but what the one thing that he doesn't get enough credit
for is the workload of being the
inside linebacker for Vance Joseph defense
because he he is it's like the tight end like
The tight end's not just out there pass catching.
He's also responsible for the run game.
So he has to block outside linebackers.
He has to maybe down block on a D lineman and,
you know, combo block and then go up
to the second level.
There's so much more to being a good tight
end than just going out there and catching
passes.
Same thing with the linebacker.
Like, you have to be able to take on 300-pound linemen
and stop the run and fill your A-gaps.
And you've got to run with the Trey McBrides,
who's coming up this Sunday.
you got to be able to run you know
with tight end Travis Kelce's you know the the George Kittles
you got to be able to run with the running
backs like Bijan Robinson out of the backfield
Jahmyr Gibbs you know and you got to be able to sit in zones
and sometimes you have to if a zone
coverage you got to be able to cover a slot receiver
or there's a lot that goes with playing
inside linebacker and so i'm saying all
that to give perspective on Alex he races so much that
goes unseen and it won't show up on the stat sheet
and that to me always proves his value he's a great
communicator there's very few busts in the coverage
or linemen like the interior linemen in terms of
their alignment or their assignment
and um Alex is a big reason why and I think and it's not saying
like Justin Chernod couldn't do it or anybody else
but I'm telling you like being in the system with
Alex for years that I played with him uh he's
a highly intelligent individual he's flying to the
football he's always leading the NFL
or like top three in tackles because he's just flying to the
ball it means a lot to him
and um yeah I think I think he's I'm not gonna say underrated because
I think people that really watch football will see
that and hence why his coaches speak so highly of
him teammates speak so highly of him uh
but there's definitely like that that big part of
our fan base that only watches the big plays that happen
and it's like a big play happens every game
and he may be a part of it sometimes
and everyone's like see look look look but I'm telling you he
does way more good than he does bad way more yeah
they're they're looking at him get beat on a wheel
route by Saquon Barkley
and not the leading tackles all these other things that we didn't
even sniff a linebacker in free agency we didn't
draft one like obviously what the coaches think
about him what his former players
who've played alongside of him I mean a lot more than dragon
slayer on X for sure so I'm gonna keep writing
but he can do more with one testicle than I could
do with two like I mean just and he played last year with cancer
so he's a dog right he's a beast
bro he's a beast all right
so you played with six different head coaches who was your favorite to
play for and why brother don't even eight years six head coaches
by the way that's not good it
wasn't your fault. That is. Isn't that insane?
Who was my favorite and why? I have, most of them are
for different reasons, but just to answer your question,
I'll say Gary Kubiak because it was
only one year. And I came in as a rookie
and Kub's like really challenged me. And there was like
times where I'd made mistakes and I got like ripped into,
and he was very fair. And I learned
a lot about like what it meant to be a good leader.
And I also learned a lot about what it
meant to lead by example um and it
was really cool watching a Super Bowl winning head coach
operate at the level that he did with the room that he had
because he had a lot of characters
you know you had to keep to lead pretty much like
the whole no fly zone each of them had
a different like Stew was kind of the quiet one
and then the rest of them were like loud and
at sometimes could be like obnoxious
in a good way you know like you wanted to be on teams with
these guys is what i'm getting
at and so um Kube being able to take all these different
personalities and meshed them into a team goal.
I obviously wasn't there for the Super Bowl 50 team,
but even getting there the year after,
I could see the tight-knit bond that this group of guys had
and the way that he was able to lead them.
I learned so much from Kube just in that first year.
And again, I think that's what helped a lot of my trajectory,
along with Wade Phillips, because that was my DC year one.
So yeah, I would have to go.
I'd have to tip my hat to probably Kube's.
Kube's was awesome.
so all the talk about culture does matter as much
as you know it's kind of cliche it matters like
how dudes gel in a locker room more than talent no it really does
because it the they always say
like coach like whatever that saying
is like coaches coach-led teams you know can be good
but player-led teams can win championships
and so the like when Kube was operating with the rookies
early on you could tell he was showing you what
the culture looked like how you're supposed to
operate but the players were leading it
and so there'd be times where like i messed up or i
wasn't operating in the way that the Gary Kubiak Broncos the Pat Bowl
and Broncos were supposed to
and Kube just be like Akib get him or TJ get him
and you know they would take me under their
wing and just explain something
and say like that's not how we do things here x y and z and
so like that to me is what like good leadership looked like
because Kubiak had established that
And so he no longer has to waste his time going to go talk to a rookie
when he has all pro, pro bowl level, Hall of Fame level talent
in his locker room that can say, like, this is our culture.
This is our standard.
This is what we're going to do.
And if you're on board, cool.
And if not, we'll get rid of you and we'll bring somebody else in.
Like, we don't have time to babysit.
This is the NFL.
It's not college.
You're not here on a scholarship.
We'll get rid of you and replace you.
So that was like really cool for me to see
because I went from high school to college and it's almost baby ish.
And I wasn't babied at B.C., but there's baby ish aspects of it.
And that was really cool to see coming
into a Super Bowl winning program.
so cool man so yeah you came into a super bowl winning program
and then you took the mantle and
you were the man as we mentioned
in the intro here 32 career interceptions game winners against
commanders dolphins raiders my favorite
was the interception you had against the detroit lions
in that Demaryius Thomas game and the man
who's picked off patrick mahomes more than anyone else
on planet earth what's
your all-time favorite interception yeah it's definitely the dt one
um since i've retired i've been asked out of the 32
and i have some really cool ones that
stick out uh the miami one was cool
but the the dt one was very special because dt meant a lot to
me talk about the leadership
and culture setting like dt was leading the charge right on that as
well as the other guys that i mentioned
and so um almost like a big brother to me i looked up to him
a lot he challenged me a lot in practice one
of the bigger receivers i've ever went up against
you know and so i had to beat him in run blocks i had
to cover him in the passing game sometimes
and i feel like dt was a very underrated receiver obviously us
in broncos country no
uh but i feel like he was very underrated
and so i got to go up against him in practice and
you know we broke bread like at lunch
and dinners during camps those types of things and not like
we were best friends but i looked up to him as like a big brother
and so when that news happened
And I was, I was crushed just like everyone.
We were all crushed and we were honoring him that game.
And I think what goes unnoticed is like,
just because like, for example, like, like with
Mike Ditka the other night, Thursday night,
last night with Thursday night football, it's
like, yeah, we want as the bears organization,
we want to go out as the Broncos for DT.
We want to go out and win the game,
but the Patriots and the lions, you know, the opposing
teams, they're not just going
to let you go win the football game, you know?
So emotions are high and there's a lot that goes into it.
And of course you want to win for the fan base.
we want to win for us we want to win for a bunch
of different reasons but you're not just gonna go
out there and win and so that was another aspect
that made it really cool like i know the lions
weren't good that year um but they played hard yeah
and we had to go out there and still execute
at a high level we had to focus mentally
and so i was more proud of the fact that the team rallied
and really focused on trying to win that football game
with all the emotion of knowing DT like a lot
of us like Courtland was there, Tim Patrick
was there um Kareem Jackson that's like his one of
his really good friends like growing up
and so that's what i appreciated about that game and we
i was talking to Kareem before
the game i'm like yo we're gonna get some turnovers for DT and when
we do we gotta go plant the ball um at his number
and it was really cool man it was like i always
call him um and not to get like religious on here
but i always call him God winks because
i'm not saying like it happened like that but when i got
the interception i was already right there
right and so like it didn't i'd have to run across
the field like i was already right next to his
logo planted the ball and then the offense took
the ball 88 yards to go score isn't that crazy
there's no chance that that's a coincidence dude
and Demaris was a believer too and like yeah yeah
like god has had you know
and we saw that with the Tebow run there there's definitely
more to that i love that you share that we have that in common man
so that that's incredible yeah
you're one of them ones man
that broncos country will never forget uh you played with you know you
we talked through all the coaches you played through you
also had a ton of starting quarterbacks
at what point like does a defense i think it's
13 total different quarterbacks were leading
the offense of the teams you're on at what point does
the defense start to get disgruntled or have
a bad attitude and do you have any fears that maybe
that might be going down a little bit now
i don't i i'm a week away from getting a Bo Nix tattoo on my lower back
but um yeah what point
does defense give up
and do you think that's a concern now no i i don't think uh there's
definitely frustration i'd be lying
if i told you there wasn't frustration like there's always going
to be um a little bit of chatter
and we what we used to do is we always used to say like man let's
get it out right now let's not let this linger let's
not say hey don't talk about those things
So like in the locker room, like over the years,
when we played on when I played on like good defenses
and we were probably the best out of the three phases on the team,
we kind of took the mantle of like, all right, well,
it's expected that we're supposed to play really good football.
So what we need to do is turn that energy of like, man,
we played good enough to win into we didn't play well enough to win.
And that that was kind of the energy.
And so like if we needed to get some some things out,
we would go talk about it.
You know, we come into the defensive meeting room
and we'll talk amongst players and coaches and we'll say,
hey, man, listen, is it is it all right on the other side?
No, but we can't control that. Right.
And so that would make you feel better,
at least addressing the elephant in the room.
But the reality is, like, we just didn't play good enough football
to win, because if you take the mindset of like,
well, we did all we could, you never did enough.
And so that to me is what I'm the most proud of over the years
of us taking up that mantle, because we really had each other's backs.
we weren't pointing the finger
and i think that's what this defense is doing and i think that's why
that confidence is exuding from them they don't need
the offense they don't even need the offense
to go score they'll be like I will score
ourselves it's all right we'll figure it out
you know Super Bowl winning teams coming
into our house we'll just get two picks in the fourth
quarter in overtime and we'll win
this football game don't even worry about it and so that's the
mentality that these guys
are having you can see you can see it they believe it and that's going
to be the most important thing you know it even comes down
to like i'm thinking of a game we played
this was the Hackett year so we played at Baltimore
and Lamar Jackson goes out like the first or second
series and snoop comes in Tyler Huntley
and we end up losing that game 10 to 7 we were winning
most of the game 7 to 3 and we lost
because the offense their offense got the ball at like the 20
with like a minute and some change left
and they drove the ball all the way down the field and they
scored a touchdown right so you can look at that as a defense
and say well we gave 10 points to Baltimore
yeah we held them to 10 points blah blah Tyler Huntley was in the game
and they didn't run the
ball well and blah blah you can say all
these different things that you want to but the fact
of the matter is we had the lead 7-3
and we gave up a last minute touchdown to lose the game so like
that's the mentality we just get a four
and out we win yeah and we couldn't do it so that's the
mentality that's you're a better man than me man
because i would have been like come on come on
yeah that's the mentality
so we hear we hear a ton about Sean Payton want to find that joker on
offense the receiver the running back who can play receiver
and you know all that you for Fangio
really were the joker on defense like you lined up
as slot corner outside corner in the box did
you how did it feel getting moved all over
the place doing all those things were there any of
you loved doing and any of them you hated doing i loved i loved all
of it i loved what i loved
the most in Vic Fangio's system was the onus
of running the defense at the safety position
because we were responsible for the checks moving
the defense in and out of different like i had a
this like i was prepped all week i'm not just me
and Kareem as well like we were prepped all week
on here's what's going to be presented here's
the calls that we're going to call and here are your
tools that you can use that are available
and so it wasn't like there would be times when we talked
about it was like okay we think we really want to go
with this so let's start with this and then if
we need to we can adjust uh
but most times we would go into a game Kareem and i and we would
just have tools at our disposal
and depending on what we felt the offense was was trying to do or
what we felt was the best to set us up
for success we would check us into that so it wasn't necessarily
it wasn't necessarily like we're doing this it
was it was up to discretion for Kareem and I and
I love that because that to me
was like I'm playing chess with not only the quarterback
but I'm playing chess with the offensive
coordinator you know I'm playing chess with
Eric Bieniemy and Patrick Mahomes I'm playing chess
with whoever over the years that we were
playing and so that to me was really fun being able
to get in and out of checks set up our
defense to be successful in that down
and move stuff around that was fun for me well if Justin
Simmons is playing chess.
There's going to be a lot of checkmates, big dog. Now you also have a
show that we get to watch every week.
So tell us about that. Yeah, bro. It's, it's fun. I started
the show The Last Line with Kareem Jackson.
We called ourselves the duo when we played with
Denver for, I think we played together for five years,
but man, it's great, man. Cause Kareem and
I, there's so much, I learned so much from the No Fly Zone
when I first got in and when those guys
transitioned and and did their own thing
and kind of left Denver uh Kareem came in and he was going
to be kind of like our hybrid our nickel slash safety
and so I learned a lot from Kareem I mean
he played nine years previously before coming to Denver with Houston
and that was just really good
for me and I think that also helped my career
in a different aspect the things I got to learn from
him so yeah so we became best friends like we
were always involved in each other's lives with
our families with our kids and that became like my brother
and so cool yeah we we decided man once
we both uh called it quits and we retired
and um it was really cool as we both got to retire Bronco
we were like dude how fun would it be to just
do a show let people see more of us as people instead
of just as the football guys
and uh break down some Broncos film maybe along the way and yeah
just chat it up so that's that's really
the whole vision behind the podcast The Last Line the last
say if we could on Broncos football before they before they head
into every Sunday or whatever it
is Thursday Monday whatever whatever game that makes
a lot more sense that like you are actually
friends because y'all's chemistry was like
so good in that first episode so um so pumped to watch that
link in the description for sure man I truly
can't thank you enough I'm gonna be the super fan
being your first comment every video dude
because it's it's that good uh so link in the description
and uh yeah thank you so much for the time big dog man you're
the man appreciate the time yourself
and uh man good luck all things in the future and go

