Did Harry Kane Deserve To Win The Balon D'or? (Lee Judges Reacts)

Right decision for you Lee? Yeah, splendid decision. I thought it was fantastic. Say how you really feel. What a sham. What a sham? Listen, I think he's a very good player but it's one set of rules for that and another set for the other. That's what I didn't like about him. What do you mean by that? Why did he win it? What was the reason he won it? He scored a lot of goals. And he won the league, Bundesliga, and didn't he win the cup as well? Why weren't the same set of rules applied for the goalkeeper then? That's a great show. Well, the goalkeeper won it, finished 12th in the league, conceded 50 goals but had a good World Cup. Had a good eight games. Had a good eight games. Where Ray won the Premier League, got the most clean sheets, got in the Champions League final team. And then, like, so the rules didn't apply on that category, but they did on another category. I don't understand it, like, you know. I thought you have to do well to... Thierry Henry never won it because he didn't win the Champions League one. That's a bad show. And it was a Nedved bid. And, you know what I mean? So, listen, who should have won it? Well, if you're going on the goalkeeping stats, then Kylian Mbappé should have won it, shouldn't he? Because he was the top scorer in the World Cup. He was. And he also scored loads of goals in the league. But Harry Kane is up. Listen, Harry Kane, I'm not saying he's a good player. Unbelievable. You're being a bit biased. Yeah, you are. If he was an Arsenal player, you would have said he should have won it, innit? No, not really. Come on. No, I don't. I'll give you another point. Go on. The player that won every single award in England, Bruno Fernandes, come 27th in this. Right. Well, what was that? Yeah. He was the best player in England last season. Bad World Cup. Why are they out there? Because he's done one of the Premier League, it's more the English competitions. They're even there. Didn't do nothing in the World Cup. Didn't do nothing in the World Cup. He should have won that anyway. Yeah, he should have. Oh, all right. I'll take this narrative, right? If Harry Kane was playing for Spurs, he wouldn't have won it, would he? No, that's true. No, because he wouldn't have won it. Because he's playing in Germany. Yeah, but he wouldn't have won anything. He wouldn't have won the league. Yeah. He wouldn't have won the league. He wouldn't have won the league with him or without him. He wouldn't have won it. No, you know what? I think he has a great point. How many goals did he score, Harry Kane? He has a great point. I'll tell you. About 70-odd in the season. 70-odd. No, but he won it for that. So why didn't Rio win it then? Yeah. If you're going down the same route as Harry Kane, right? Harry Kane in the World Cup was abysmal when we really wanted him. He went missing. Yeah, but he was our top goal scorer in the World Cup, wasn't he? Yeah, against Panama, it seems like. When it mattered, he weren't there. The reason that Rio didn't win is because he didn't play in the World Cup. The PSG players should have won it, but he didn't go to the World Cup. Georgian guy. Oh, that's scary. He was unbelievable last season. Yeah. Right? Harry Kane... I didn't see him in the Champions League final. He scored 36 goals in the league. 12th in the league! 50 goals conceded and he wins the golden goalkeeping thing. So there's one set of rules for one. One set of rules. And that's all I'm saying. I'm not talking about a goalkeeper. Come on, it's Harry Kane Byers. No, no, no, no, no, no, no. It's Harry Kane Byers. I'm delighted for him. Because he played for Spurs. No, no, no, no, no, no. He played for Spurs. You're delighted for him? Not really, it doesn't change my life. I don't think he deserved to win that yesterday, in my opinion. I think Lilian Mpati is a better... We're telling you now, Harry Kane is the best player in the world. No, I don't think he is. No, he is! He is! If you're talking about football quality, I don't think he's the best player. I mean, football quality-wise, he's the best to watch. Why didn't he get it? He won the World Cup. Yeah, but he didn't have a great World Cup, though, to be fair. Did Harry Kane... I think I think it is, right? I think Mbappé, if he had won something, because to me, he's the best player in the world. Yeah. He won the Golden Boot. He won the Golden Boot. Yeah, yeah. And I think he scored 40-odd goals in Spain as well. Yeah, so, there you go. But I think the fact that he didn't win anything, he didn't win the league, he didn't win the Champions League, he didn't win the World Cup, I think that's what went against him. Kane won things, didn't he? Kane's, this is probably his last opportunity to win it, they're not putting this as a factor. Yeah, exactly. There's a few other factors there, like Mbappe's likely gonna win it next year. He's likely, yeah, the next Ballon d'Or. Oh, so, right. No, I know it's not, I know it's not a face-off, but come on, there'll be little factors, though. We've got to give it to Harry this year because he ain't gonna win it next year. In London, no, you never have. You know what, I actually think there is, I think there's some truth to that. To be fair to Lee, I do think Lee's got a point because the question is, what is it? Is it best player? Because I don't think Harry Kane is the best player. I think he's the best goal scorer. But I don't think he's the best player. Is he the best player or is it goals? What is it? Is he the best goal scorer? I think he is. Over Haaland? I think he is. I think he might score more than Haaland. Yeah. Because Lee's got a point. And Haaland and Lee. Lee's got a point. And the thing is, I'm not trying to diss Harry Kane. But when Thierry, Thierry... Went unbeaten. Scored 30 goals in three seasons straight. And like Lee said, he didn't win the Champions League. Even though he went from unbeaten, he helped an unbeaten team. So what it is now is what I'm hearing now, which I've said from the start, because I was saying this to Joe when we were driving up here, is that it's about humility as well. Because one thing you've got to pick up Harry Kane for is that you never hear no nonsense off the pitch. What we've been hearing is that Thierry Henry won the double. In 2002, over 30 goals, the reason he didn't get it was because he didn't win the Champions League. Exactly, and Harry Kane didn't win the Champions League. He went invincible, won the league, oh, he can't win it again in two days because he didn't do well in the World Cup, blah, blah, blah. He's got a point. That's all I'm saying. It's not that I'm bitter of... Thierry Henry should have won that. Yeah, he should have won that. Should have won that. Should have won without a shadow of a doubt. It is a very biased award. Of course it is. Who's the best footballer out of the boys? Mbappé, as you say, over Mbappé. At least he's on the ball. Unbelievable. Harry Kane. I actually think Harry Kane wins. Who's the best footballer? I think it's Mbappé. The way I judge it is this, right? If tomorrow, if tomorrow, Right? All four of those were available and get-able for Arsenal. It's 100% Mbappé, aren't they? Exactly. Mbappé is the best player. I saw that guy was there at the World Cup final, when that guy... I think so. ...on his own... Overall... ...did that, right? I've seen that guy, even in the last World Cup, he was unbelievable. The only thing is that he didn't win it. Who won it last year? Who won the Ballon d'Or last year? Rodri. Rodri won, unfortunately. When did Messi last win it? Huh? Er, before the year before. The year Lewandowski should have won it. Did Messi win it when he won the World Cup? Yeah. Yes. Four years ago. Where was he playing? Where was he playing? Haaland should have... He's playing at MLS. He's playing at MLS. Was he in Miami? Yeah. Right, and he still got it? Yeah. Right, because he had a fantastic World Cup. Yeah, but... There you go. He's got some comments here Um... Tito Pacheco said, you saw him play in the ground against Arsenal last week in Munich and still remain unconvinced. Yeah, because what did he do? What do you mean, what did he do? He scored a penalty and he had a great assist. But they didn't win the game, did they? They didn't win the game, did they? No, but you just said, what did he do? He's a fantastic player. No, but hold on, he goes, what did he do? No, no, but what I'm saying is, they didn't win the game, though. He got the man of the match. But they didn't win the game, though, did they? So what did the Arsenal players do? We did enough. Wait for more. No, no, what did they do? We did enough to get a draw. No, you just said, but we didn't win the game. No, but they're favourites. We're not favourites. We're not favourites, are we? They were on their home ground, weren't they? What foolishness you're trying They were on their home ground. He was out, I thought... He was man of the match. He got man of the match for the game. Fair enough. He just said, what did he do? And the assist, fair enough, and the penalty. I'm not saying that he's not a great player. I think he is a fantastic player. And he's definitely in the top... Definitely was in the top three. I ain't got an argument with that. But for me, I don't think he... If you're going with all the rules which were set out in the past, and if you're going along with the goalkeeping rules and whatever, then Harry Kane shouldn't have won it. No, I don't agree with you, Lee. What do you mean, then? So you agree that Simone, whatever his name, should have won that game? He was the top goal scorer in the world, right? No, I think he was. Who was the clean sheet goal scorer? Who had the most clean sheets? You're saying goal scorer, I'm saying most clean sheets in. So what's the difference? Messi, Messi, you said Messi. Messi won a Ballon d'Or for the good World Cup, you know Simon won the World Cup. Which goalkeeper has won a Ballon d'Or? Err, Oliver Kahn. I'm talking about, I'm talking about the best goalkeeper in the world. The best goalkeeper in the world, went to, went to whatever his name is, Sir Oliver Kahn. Who came 12th in the league and conceded 50 goals. How has he got that on the same recommendations you're talking about, Harry Kane? World Cup. Messi won the Ballon d'Or in the World Cup. Well, alright. Kylian Mbappé is a better player than Kane. I think I'm not all... You're arguing with me on that or not? Who's the better player? Right? And who got the most goals in the World Cup? Kylian Mbappé. Kylian Mbappé? So why has he got it? A lot of people said he should have got it, but listen, Kane... A goal in England, it was all set up, oh blimey! There is no factors like that. Lee makes good points, because I agree with that. I mean, I'm not saying Kane is, I don't think he's the best goal scorer. I'm not saying that he doesn't, he definitely deserves to be in there. He's a fantastic footballer and all that. I don't think he's the best goal scorer. For me, there's different, there's no certain precedent of what you actually win that award for. So for Arsenal, Kane, you would, you'd say Mbappe, wouldn't you? Yeah, all day long, over anywhere in the world. Which one's been them two for? Mbappé. Over anywhere in the world. Listen, Kane is 33 years of age as well. I know he's old. He's outstanding. Even Kane in his prime, you can't talk to Mbappé. He's unreal, man. Your miners aren't coming back. Mbappé, to me, is the best. Look what he was like. You know what? I'll tell you what, right? Harry Kane, right? I see him on Wednesday night, right? And then I watch Kylian Mbappé on Sunday night. I'll tell you what, chalk and cheese the difference. Yeah, no, Mbappé's the best player. So why has he won it then? That's my answer. Oh, come on. He's a good player. Why has he... You should just turn around and say, he's the best player, so why has he won it then? No, no, but he's the best player. It's based off of what they've done last year. So I'm saying with the goalkeepers... Can't have an unbelievable year. So I'm saying with the goalkeepers, why has one goalkeeper won it with all the same rules that you're saying? It's a good point. It's a very good point. Who kept the most clean sheets last season? David. David. Who kept... Who played in the Champions League final last season? Legend David. Who won a Premier League? Legend David. Yeah, I hear you. I think you should be winning that. Yeah, the Yashin Trophy. That's all I'm saying. The top ten was Mbappe got second, Kane first, Lamine Yamal third, Rodri fourth, Messi fifth. See, Rodri, sorry, that's just off a World Cup. He was injured for the whole season. Messi fifth? No. Yeah. Bruno Fernandes had a better season than him last year, he played in the Premier League. No, look at Messi in the World Cup, brilliant. Messi's a joke, bro. Messi's brilliant in the World Cup. Why, did you have him to get away? I don't know, bro. He played in Miami. Yeah, and I think in Miami. Didn't they win a trophy as well? So again, he's fifth then because of the World Cup, yeah? Yeah, yeah. Right. So is Rodri, Rodri was out the whole season. Rodri, yeah, the fantastic World Cup. Yeah, that's all he had. So it's one rule for one and one rule for another. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Kevin De Bruyne, six. Six?! See, he was fantastic in the Champions League. Ousmane Dembele, 7th. 8th. He won it last year, didn't he? Where's Bruno Fernandes? Erling Haaland, 8th. Michael Olise, 9th. Fabian Ruiz. He's very unlucky to be down in 10th, Fabian Ruiz. Jude Bellingham, 11th. What did he do last year, Jude Bellingham? He didn't win nothing, Jude Bellingham, last year. How's he in 11th? How's he in 11th? Where's Declan Rice? Declan Rice is 15th. So who won something last season? That's true. That's wrong. So what is it? He should be higher. Vitinha, 14th. Vitinha should be higher than him. Exactly, so what is the criteria for this? He should be higher than Jude Bellingham. What is the criteria for this then? Jude Bellingham didn't have a good season for Real Madrid, really. But he had a good World Cup. Ferran Torres, 16th. He might have scored the winner in the World Cup. Yeah, but overall he didn't have a great season. No, actually, no, Barcelona, they won the league, didn't they? They won the league, but... Cucurella, 18th. Hold on a minute. Oh, yes. World Cup. Yeah, World Cup. What did he do with Chelsea? Exactly. He was good for Chelsea. Ten for Chelsea. But all right. He played well for Chelsea. So who's better than him? Gabriel last season or Cucurella? Who was the better player last season? Gabriel. Oh, and he's in front of Gabriel. Gabriel's in at 21st. Don't you ever tell me that the Ballon d'Or is proper? He won the World Cup. It's Mickey Mouse. He should have so many ******* years on it, and call it Nicky. It's the biggest individual achievement in the world. It's the biggest individual achievement in the world. William Pacho came in at 20th. Gabriel... William Pacho plays PSG. Yeah, alright, yeah, yeah. Gabriel, 20th. Ridiculous. Lautaro Martinez, 22nd. What? Man United? No, Inter Milan. Oh, good to see you. Alright. Nuno Mendes, 23rd. He's a good player. Yeah. Luis Diaz, 24th. Yeah. Marquinhos, 25th. Dayot Upamecano, 26th. Upamecano... This is crazy. For Saliba? Yeah. Yeah. That's crazy. Well, that's because he won the Bundesliga. There you go. That's mad. That's mad. That's mad because he ain't better than Bruno Fernandes, 27th. He gets in play... He played more games, William Saliba, than him in five in the World Cup. We know he's of Mexico. I think he should be higher. He had a good season. Sadio Mane, 29th. Yeah, unbelievable. He's done well in the African nations. And joint 29th, William Saliba. The best centre-back in the world. That's crazy. That is crazy. That tells you everything, doesn't it? Where's Bruno Fernandes, who won everything in England? Well, you shouldn't have done that. I remember saying that. No, no, no. I'm telling you. It's all a farce, the whole lot in individual. Anyway, it's not about... It's a team sport. You know what I mean? That's what I'm saying. It's true. All right, well, let's go back to our game.