The Geographic Lie of New Zealand
Oct 30, 2026
If you stand right here at the very northern tip of New Zealand,
you're in a subtropical paradise.
It's warm, there are these really large sand dunes,
and you can literally watch two oceans colliding in front of you.
But travel just a few hundred miles south,
and you are suddenly swallowed by this.
Towering, freezing, ice-carved fjords
that look like they belong in Norway, or the Alaskan
archipelago.
New Zealand is roughly the size of Colorado,
yet it contains almost every extreme geography
on the planet.
But how?
The answer lies in the fact that New
Zealand isn't just a couple of islands.
It's the battleground
of two huge tectonic plates tearing the Earth apart.
And we traveled from the sunny volcanic north
to the deep glacial south to see how fire
and ice created the ultimate geographic anomaly.
Hey, I have a book coming out in 2027 called Badlands.
Stick around to the end
to learn more about it. It's really
not as cold as Alexa makes it seem.
Pretty stop, but still not at the far north.
So also, can I just say my hair? Wild.
We've made it as far as the car can take us
to the northern point of New Zealand so now we have to hike
to the actual most northern point that we can get to today.
As we start our hike I gotta say
I'm actually kind of impressed by how many people are here.
You guys don't know this but this is
quite out of the way from everything else here
in New Zealand. It takes a long drive
to get up here. The nearest town is about an hour
and a half away so just for reference.
To understand New Zealand,
you first have to understand
just how insanely isolated it is.
We are currently at Cape Ranga.
From here, if you sail west,
it's about 1,200 miles just to hit Australia.
If you sail east,
there is virtually nothing until you hit South America.
We're gonna make it all the way over.
There.
As Alexa and I are making our way
to the lighthouse here at the very far northern
tip of New Zealand, one of the things you're going
to see is a bunch of placards that say
basically how New Zealand was discovered by Europeans.
So of course the usual suspects,
Abel Tasman, Tasmania is named for and the Tasman Sea.
Our good friend Captain Cook.
who is just everywhere but of course there
were people here long before the Europeans
but probably not as long as you might expect
the Maori of course are the original people
of New Zealand and while Europeans didn't
come until about the 1700s the Maori
are only theorized to have arrived
in New Zealand around the year 1200 which is
Significantly later than the Aboriginals of Australia,
who have been there for about 40,000 years,
and certainly a lot later than other places
in the Polynesian Islands, including Hawaii,
which just makes you think that the human history here
of New Zealand is just not that old.
And there is a good reason for this.
Even though Hawaii is much farther away,
you look at a global map and you focus on New Zealand,
you're going to see just how far south
and out of the way it is.
There's really nothing to suggest,
especially in the early 1300s, 1400s,
even up to the 1600s, that there was anything down here.
So it's kind of not surprising
Think about it, but it is very interesting.
We are almost at the lighthouse,
so let's keep on truckin'.
So that right there is the actual
northernmost point of New Zealand.
Unfortunately, we can't really get to it.
And actually, actually,
if we're getting really persnickety about it,
this isn't the northernmost point of New Zealand at all.
There's another place that is even farther away
and even more inaccessible.
We can't even get close to that one.
Makes for a fun video.
It's a really interesting site behind me.
This is where the Tasman Sea and the Pacific Ocean meet.
And right behind me, you can actually see
where these two huge bodies of water start to converge.
Super
cool.
Ultimately, this maritime climate keeps the North Island
relatively warm and subtropical.
It's why over 75% of New Zealand's entire population
lives on this one island.
But to understand why all of those people
are packed into the North,
we have to head to the country's biggest city,
Auckland.
Really is like Seattle.
We just arrived in Auckland,
which is home to about a third of the country's population.
And geographically, this city is weird
in a way that few cities in the world are.
You see, it's actually built on a tiny isthmus
of land between two massive harbors.
Oh, and it's also sitting on top of a dormant,
volcanic field made up of over 50 different volcanoes.
Whole top floor of the bus, all for us.
What'd you think of the bus ride, Alexa?
That was rough at times.
We were on the very top and it just looked like
we were about to hit any car, any pedestrian in our way.
Bus driver is very qualified, but that was a rocky ride.
Not a fan of the double decker.
Alexa and I have made it to our first
and kind of only stop here in Auckland.
We don't have that much time here.
Just like with Taipei, when we climbed Elephant Mountain,
here in Mount Eden, we are presented
with a whole bunch of steps.
And hopefully some good views.
That's always the hope.
We'll see when you see.
First impressions of Auckland.
It reminds me so much of Seattle.
The downtown Auckland area has
the Sky Tower which looks a lot like Seattle's Space Needle.
The buildings look very similar.
I don't know, just gives that vibe.
But then as we're walking up Mount Eden right now,
it actually reminds me a lot more of Portland.
There is a neighborhood in Portland called Mount
Tabor and there's a similar mountain with great views
of the city and it is also a dormant
Dormant volcano.
Kind of making me feel a little homesick.
Okay I know the video is not going to do it justice
but that right there is a very impressive
looking city skyline. I do want to take a moment
to just call out the fact that while that does
look like a very large city, Auckland is not that big.
All told there's about 1.7 million people who
live here which would make it the fifth largest city
in the region of Oceania. Far behind the
likes of Melbourne or Sydney both with about 5 million people.
It's also not the capital of New
Zealand. That's Wellington which we're going
to show you in a little bit. Very pretty though.
Auckland is one of the
Very few cities in the entire world where there's an actual active
but dormant volcano in it.
And right behind me is the actual crater from when
this volcano last erupted about 28,000 years ago.
It could still erupt, in which case
Auckland would be in a world of hurt,
or it could lie dormant for thousands of more years.
That's just the way volcanoes work.
The North Island sits squarely on the Pacific Ring of Fire.
And unlike the South Island, the North Island is essentially a massive,
highly active volcanic plateau.
Below the surface, the Pacific plate is subducting.
We're diving under the Australian plate.
That friction creates magma, which
then punches through the crust, giving the North Island
its geysers, hot springs,
and perfectly cone-shaped mountains.
But to really get a sense of this volcanic landscape,
we're skipping the flight and
taking a 10-hour train ride right through
the volatile heart of the North Island, all
the way down to the capital city of Wellington.
Good morning! Alexa and I have made it
to our train station here in Auckland.
We had a wonderful time in New Zealand's biggest city.
We are now ready to board the train all the way to Wellington.
It's about 12 hours to get from Auckland all
the way to the very far south of the North Island.
Hopefully it's a lot of fun.
We opted for the scenic plus,
which means we get a little bit of extra food,
a little bit of extra goodies, maybe some extra storytelling.
But let's go!
I wish I would
have brought
my jacket.
So this is the viewing car here on the New Zealand.
Auckland to Wellington train.
What's really interesting about this one,
in comparison to something like, well, Amtrak,
is that it is totally open air.
You can't tell by my hair.
But it's actually kind of nice if you need some fresh air.
I'm enjoying it.
We're a few hours into the journey
and the landscape has completely transformed. We've
climbed up onto the central plateau.
Out the window, you can actually see Mount Ruapehu,
which is an active stratovolcano.
In fact, it last erupted back in 2007,
shattering a dam that was holding back a lake
and sending an estimated 1.9 to 3.8 million cubic
meters of mud, rock, and water down the Wangaehu River.
Needless to say, it will erupt again at
some point in the near future.
In fact, it seems to erupt once every 20 years or so, so it could
So one of the things that I find
most interesting about New Zealand
is the difference between
the North Island, which is where we're at now,
and the South Island, which is where
we're going to be.
But the North Island is unique in its own right.
For one, it has all of these hills everywhere that really provide a,
not mountainous, but
but interesting topography and it's mostly
because the North Island has a lot of volcanic domes which
cause these sort of slightly uplifted hills rather than
the very steep mountains of say
overall I think the North Island gets kind
of a bad reputation for not being as interesting
but I think it's still very very cool of course riding
a 12-hour train helps see a little bit more
We'll get more of that.
So one of the things that's most interesting about New Zealand
is how topographically interesting it is.
Now of course the South Island is the one
that gets most of the attention, but the North Island
actually has quite a bit of topography to call its own,
including three really large volcanoes right
in the middle of the island.
The big one here in New Zealand is called Tongariro and it last erupted
only in 2012. Just tells you that this is still a very volcanically
and seismically active region
of the world. A little wine, a little cheese,
crackers, it's quite good. It's a perfect pairing.
Alexa and I get closer and closer to Wellington
and we're not very far out at this point I thought
it was worth talking a little bit about
the train system here in New Zealand so there are trains
that you can ride obviously
because we're on one right now we're on the longest train we could
possibly take which goes from Auckland down
to Wellington in theory you could then take a ferry
over to Picton you could then ride another train south
to Christchurch from there you could take
We're going to take one from Christchurch West to Greymouth
and finally you could take a last train from
From Greymouth all the way down to Queenstown.
All that's to say is, in theory,
you could take a train all the way from, well, basically
the very far north all the way to the very far south.
However, it's not actually possible
because New Zealand's train system has not organized
their trains in such a way as to actually allow for that to happen.
So you would have to take a number of days off here
and there to actually, well, ride
the train all the way from the very north to the very south.
I guess all I'll say is that it's
an inefficient system at best, but really,
It's a system that's made for relatively short trips
for tourists rather than anything
that's actually transportation related.
Still very nice though.
I have really enjoyed
the train.
Building a railway through this terrain
was an absolute nightmare in the late 1800s.
They had to engineer viaducts over deep volcanic gorges
and cut through dense ancient forests.
But it was the only way to connect
the economic hub of Auckland
with the political capital of Wellington,
which sits at the very bottom tip of the island.
After a long train trip, we made it to Wellington.
And immediately when you arrive, you notice two things.
First, the harbor is absolutely gorgeous.
Second, it is insanely windy.
This is because Wellington is perfectly positioned
right on the Cook Strait,
a wind tunnel that separates the North and South Islands.
Thankfully, our stay in Wellington
was almost picture perfect,
which was great because there's a truly special place
in Wellington that helps really tell
the biologic story of the country.
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Now, let's get back to New Zealand.
Good morning from Wellington.
Alexa and I had a really fun time on the train yesterday,
but we got in at night, which means we
couldn't actually show you all that much.
And unfortunately, we're still not going to show you all that much
because we simply don't have enough time
in this episode to show you all of Wellington.
But take a look at that view. Wellington Bay. Beautiful area.
But instead of showing you the actual city,
we do have one special thing
we do want to show you. A place called Zealandia, which is an area
just around Wellington where they're trying to restore the area
to what it was like before humans came to New Zealand.
Should be really interesting.
And as a plus, we get to take a cable car.
When the Maori
first arrived
in New Zealand,
it was mostly just
inhabited by birds.
But after the Maori arrived,
and then definitely after the Europeans arrived, other creatures
arrived with them.
Rats, possums, weasels, and other animals all made
their way to the islands and they
decimated the native bird populations.
Which is why Zealandia is so important.
It's a literal return of the island to its native habitat.
Jeff and I made it to Zealandia.
First impressions, it is absolutely beautiful. I'm so excited to go
and explore. This area is huge.
It is over 500 acres large and just a natural area for wildlife
to live. But what also is interesting is it's
the first urban conservation area, not just in New
Zealand, but the world. So let's go explore
and hopefully we'll see some cool wildlife.
We've been in New Zealand for over a week
and just something that we want to acknowledge and
really point out and uplift is that no matter where you
are, you're going to see both the
Maori language and English.
For example, here's a sign right here which shows both languages,
bus or train or airplane.
They say everything in Maori first and then in English. I think it's
just something that's really interesting
and special that they do here in New Zealand.
So close to being able to go into a cave
in New Zealand, but it's closed.
So right here is a very, very large fern.
It's basically like a tree. It's not. It kind of looks
like a palm tree. It's very cool, very beautiful.
We just saw a large brown parrot. They are
nationally a very vulnerable species here.
What's really cool is here they're thriving,
which just shows how important Zealandia is here
in New Zealand. I am not really a birder,
but if I was, this place would be paradise.
There's a lot of really cool birds here.
That all right there is part of Zealandia and if you can believe it
keeps going on all the way up there. Really big area, very pretty.
If you look at a map of New Zealand,
you'll notice something interesting.
The country's two largest, most economically important,
and most populated islands are very close to one another.
The gap between them, the Cook Strait,
is only 14 miles wide at its narrowest point.
So why isn't there a bridge? Why is the ferry the only way across?
In the U.S. state of Louisiana,
there's a bridge that spans 24 miles continuously over water.
So surely this must be possible, right?
Unfortunately, no.
As it turns out, the Cook Strait is one
of the most dangerous, unpredictable...
All of this is to say, a
bridge here is basically
an engineering
impossibility.
We've crossed over to the South Island,
and we are heading deep into Fiordland National
Park to a place called the Doubtful Sound.
And as you can see,
the subtropical weather
from Cape Ranga is officially gone.
While the North Island was built by volcanoes,
the South Island was built by tectonic collision.
Here, the two plates aren't sliding under one another,
they're smashing head on, buckling
the earth upward to create what we call the Southern Alps,
a mountain range taller than
the Rockies of North America.
These mountains create a brutal geographic phenomenon called
a rain shadow. As wet ocean air hits the Alps,
it's forced upward, dumping
biblical amounts of rain on the west coast.
Because of this, the Fiordland gets over 20
feet of rain a year. This constant water combined
with millions of years of freezing temperatures
created the ultimate carving tool, glaciers.
Alexa and I have made it to the Doubtful Sound
all the way here in the far southern tip of New Zealand's South Island.
Maybe we'll do a little
kayaking. We're gonna see a lot of waterfalls,
but one thing's for sure, it's gonna be a lot
of rain because this area gets between six
and eight meters of rain every single year.
Welcome to our room. Ta-da! We've got a nice queen-sized bed.
It's soft. We've got some towels,
some chocolate, got space heater.
Apparently underneath the bed we have some plugs. On this
side there's a little nightstand so we can put our phones
and books or whatever we have. Got some
Awesome windows with pretty beautiful views of the Doubtful Sound.
A hairdryer, I don't think we'll be using that.
Oh this is heated.
And we can put our clothes on and so it's heated.
And in here we have our own little bathroom.
It's pretty small.
We have a toilet, a cute little shower,
a nice mirror, and a sink to wash our hands.
I'll say it's gonna be a pretty comfortable
and cozy two-night here on our cruise.
Very excited.
This is absolutely amazing topography.
The sounds of Southern Island New Zealand
is unspeakably cool and dramatic.
I don't know if the video is ever going to do this justice,
but I hope you guys can see a little bit
of what we're able to experience right now.
It's almost impossible to describe the scale of this place.
We're sitting in water that is hundreds of feet deep,
surrounded by vertical rock walls that shoot thousands
of feet straight up into the clouds.
Alexa and I just received notice that we
are about to hit the ocean, the Tasman Sea,
Let's see.
and oh boy can you feel it. It is a lot.
It is very rocky. I kind of regret drinking my wine
right now. It's beautiful though.
Can confirm the wine is safe.
Well we just had our first
taste of the front of the ship
and the doubtful sound weather here and it is
incredible. The rain is blowing
so hard that it feels almost like hail hitting you.
Right behind me is the Tasman Sea,
which is the large body of water that separates,
well, New Zealand from Australia.
Well, we also happen to be situated in the Roaring Forties,
which Alexa and I experienced back
when we were in Tasmania. It's not quite as extreme
when I'm on the side of the boat here,
but as soon as I get to the front, it is howling.
Oh, boy.
First thoughts on the boat, Alexa?
It's awesome. The boat is so cool.
These mugs don't really keep my tea warm, but that's okay.
We're getting close to sunset
so we are going to cruise around the Shelter Islands and see what we
can see before it gets too dark. But if anything,
even if we don't see anything, I don't know what
we're looking for maybe some animals.
The sunset's really pretty. I don't know if you can tell but
that rock right there is absolutely littered with seals.
They are just swarming over it.
Believe it or not, it is now morning.
Today, well, I'm not really sure what to expect.
It is really raining right now.
Hopefully we're able to get on some kayaks
and then just kind of show you what it's like
to be here in the Doubtful Sound.
It all starts with breakfast, so let's go get some eats.
Now you might be wondering how does the Doubtful Sound get its name?
There's quite a funny story
about how the Doubtful Sound was called
the Doubtful Sound and it starts all the way back
in the 1770s. Captain Cook was the first British explorer
to explore this area but he didn't
actually make it inside the Doubtful Sound.
He saw how big the fjords are and was worried that
if he went in that the ship wouldn't be able to sail out
so he said doubtful conditions.
Let's call it the Doubtful Harbor.
So from 1770 to about 1998,
it was called the Doubtful Harbor.
But with the Ngai Tahu Settlement Act of 1998,
the name switched to the Doubtful Sound, or Patet.
So while Captain Cook was doubtful
if he would be able to make it out,
we're now doubtful that we're gonna be able
to get off this boat and go kayaking
because of how rainy it is today.
I'm currently hiding underneath a covered area
so I can still get views, but protect
the camera and myself from the rain.
Unfortunately, it is now raining sideways, so I'm getting a little wet.
As Alexa and I are now, I believe,
heading towards the Tasman Sea again,
so we'll see if we actually get to it because of all this wind,
I feel like this would be a good time to talk a little bit about
the Fiordland National Park here in New Zealand.
Now, there's only a few places
in the world that are anything like this.
Fjords of British Columbia,
sort of near where Alexa and I are from in Portland.
And then there's the fjords in Norway.
And there's some fjords other places as well.
But this place is truly unique.
For one...
There's not a whole lot of exploration
and discovery that's ever happened by human beings
here which makes this a not only a UNESCO World Heritage Site
but one of the very very few places
humans haven't really done anything with.
We're here of course on a boat and we had to take a
shuttle to the boat on a road but there's just
so much land that is really unexplored and
very natural. You can't say the same thing for Norway
or British Columbia's fjords but also
These fjords are not in the north, they're in the south,
which means, and because it's in the south,
these fjords were created by much bigger
and much more dramatic ice sheets from Antarctica
rather than the Arctic,
which just means that the Fiordland National Park fjords are
that much more dramatic.
This is by far the windiest we've felt it.
Alexa and I are sufficiently wet.
I even have an extra layer of pants on,
and I think the rain has soaked through both of those.
So I really need
to dry up.
Well, it's a couple hours later.
Alexa and I had a good lunch.
I beat her in another game of cribbage.
We were told that we were heading back out
to the Tasman Sea.
Well, as we were getting closer, apparently the waters
were getting way too rough, way too early.
The captain just up.
Right and turned around.
Basically said something to the effect
that's not worth the risk,
which I kind of agree.
The waters were getting really rough
and we were still quite a ways into the sound.
I'm not sure if we're going to head back out
to the Tasman Sea for the rest of this journey.
We'll see.
What's crazy is that
because of the insane amount of rain here,
there's a permanent layer of dark freshwater
sitting on top of the ocean water.
It blocks out the light,
meaning deep sea creatures
actually live fairly close to the surface.
It's one of the most isolated,
raw and untouched ecosystems on the planet.
It couldn't be more different
from the warm beaches we started on in the north
the weather was so dreadful on our second day that
Alexa and I didn't know if we would get
the opportunity to do any of the off-boat activities
so when the crew announced that we could take
a smaller boat for a bit of a tour albeit a very
wet one we jumped at the opportunity now make
no mistake it never stopped pouring rain while
while we were out there.
It's obviously better if it was built in black.
And while this might seem like a bad thing,
it actually provided us with some of the best views
of both our home
ship and the
Doubtful Sound.
With all of that rain came all of the amazing
and majestic waterfalls that completely surrounded us.
We spent about an hour cruising around the crooked arm
of the Doubtful Sound, just taking everything in.
Because we
were already so wet,
we figured we might as well take a bit
of a polar plunge as well.
Some fun facts about the sound while I wait for my own shower.
Alexa's in the shower right now.
The Doubtful Sound is directly connected to the ocean
and therefore is a body of salt water.
What's perhaps most interesting about it is that because it rains
so much and there's so
much water coming off of the mountains into the sound,
it's that the top three, six,
sometimes up to 50 meters of water in the sound is fresh water.
So you actually have to dive
Pretty deep to get to the saltwater.
And saltwater and freshwater don't mix here.
Technically, what we were swimming in
was a freshwater sound, which is quite interesting.
The other thing to note though,
is that we actually got really lucky.
And I know it doesn't seem like that
because it's been raining so, so much,
but because of all that rain
is why we get all of those waterfalls.
Well guys, if you can believe it,
and it's finally stopped raining.
We've had a long day,
but there's still more to do tomorrow.
So we're gonna go ahead and call it,
So it is dry this morning, which is very nice,
but it is much, much colder.
I'm realizing the shell of a rain jacket
and my hoodie is not nearly enough.
Thankfully, we won't be out in too long today.
Well, maybe unfortunately.
One last thing to show you guys here before we leave
the Doubtful Sound. If you look behind me,
you can see a literal crack heading up into the top of the mountain.
That is a literal fault line
here in New Zealand. And that just shows you
just how tectonically active this region is,
because that wasn't created that long ago.
At some point, it'll probably rupture again.
According to our guide here,
it is more of a branch off the main fault line here in New
Zealand. But still, the fact that it could
do that, that's very powerful stuff.
What an amazing experience.
I don't think I've ever been to someplace
as beautiful as the Doubtful Sound.
At every moment, it looked like you were in a postcard.
It was so pretty.
So you have two islands,
one forged by volcanic fire and the other carved by glacial ice.
But there is one final geographic secret about New Zealand.
It's not actually an island chain at all.
If you drain the ocean, you realize that New Zealand
is just the highest peaks of a submerged
continent called Zealandia.
It's about half the size of Australia, but 94% of it is...
The mountains, the volcanoes, the deep fjords,
they are just the tiniest sliver of the land
that managed to fight its way above the surface of the Pacific.
And it resulted in one
of the most geographically spectacular places on Earth.
If you enjoyed this deep dive into New Zealand,
let us know what country we should explain
next in the comments.
Next week, we are heading back to the US
to see the Rockies that nobody talks about.
So come back next week for another adventure.
See you then.
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