Friday, Oct 30: Tom Hodgson

Good morning, good morning. We're now joined, Lenny and I are joined by Tom Hodgson. Just check that microphone, Lenny. There you go, Chris. Good morning, Sheriff. How are you today? Good morning, Lenny. Good morning, Chris. Sheriff, how are you? Doing great. You were at a big party for another sheriff, Joe McDonald, last evening. How's the sheriff of Plymouth County doing? He's doing great, actually. He was doing a press conference up at the Statehouse, actually, with Mike Minogue this week about calling on both Mara Healy and the Attorney General to... To allow sheriffs to be able to hold people that are going to otherwise be released into our community, criminal illegal aliens, or criminals for that matter, to not release them if there's an outstanding warrant or detainer. So he's doing great. He always has a good crowd down there, and he's very focused. He's like the DA down there. He's like Tim Cruz, right? They're very focused on the things that matter to the people that they represent. And that's, I think, what everybody's looking for in government today. Tom, it's... It's game time, right? I mean, early voting, the last day. To early vote in person is today. Okay. People can go to the library in the city of New Bedford, the main library downtown. I recommend everybody else just call your town hall to find out. I believe in Fave, and you can vote at town hall. But call your city clerk or whoever handles elections in your town to find out. Because it's a long ballot. It's two pages. I've had a number of callers who've early voted who said, I'm glad I early voted. And other people should go early vote. I'm going to vote. That way you can get through all those ballot questions and without being rushed. Yeah, and that's a great point, Chris. And I think it's important also if people... Before they go, if you take the time, look at the questions, make up a cheat sheet. You can take a little sheet in with you. And for each question you already have, you just look at it. You don't have to sit there and read the whole thing when you're in the polling place. You already know, you've read it, and you already put, this is where I'm going to vote. You put yes next to it. And you go down the list and just color in the little circle, and it makes it easy. It's faster, and it helps move the lines along. That's why it's important for people Uh, as you said, vote early so you don't have to go wait because if you were just going in and voting for three or four candidates, things move pretty quickly. But when you have all different questions, ballot questions, it takes a little longer. It's two pages. Yeah. And so, so it's a way to manage your time for your day so that you have more time for yourself. You did what you, you, all of us, uh, hold sacred, which is vote. And, and by the way, don't worry about it. There's nobody stacked up behind you. Just go in. Right. Vote peacefully. No one's going to bother you. Just do what you've got to do on your own schedule, and then get going. Yeah, it's a lot of things you should be informed on. To go in there, in all due respect, and not be prepared to know how to vote on each ballot question is not wise at all, because they're important. Natalie just texted me saying, you've got to tell me how we're going to vote on that. Yeah, yeah. Don't worry about that. And even the Commonwealth, you know, they sent out a flyer to mail this for people. To try to understand this stuff. And I was joking today, somebody saying there's so many of them and they have to get involved. And I said, well, it could be worse. Well, you should Google and see what California, how many they got on there. California is like ridiculous, you know. But, again, it lends to, like... It could be worse. We could be in Cuba where we could vote and it wouldn't matter. Yeah, it wouldn't matter. It's all right. Here it matters. Whether you like the outcome or not. It only matters who counts the votes in those countries. That's for real. Stalin, that was Stalin's. But you can't bring in a sheet. You can't bring in a sheet. Yeah, you can bring in a sheet that just, you know, helps you just already be prepared prior to going in. So you know exactly what you're going to do. Boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, and you're out. Sheriff, what time and where is the big rally for Minogue? I know, in other words, I was telling the listeners as we closed out the hour, Bristol County is ground zero for this election. Whoever really, I think this is where it's going to be, whoever wins Bristol County is going to be the next treasurer, the next governor, the next U.S. senator. This stuff is really important. Bristol County, we're ground zero. There's no question. Thank you for that question. We've talked about this way back when, over 25 years ago. I served for 25 and a half years, and people said back then, they had that mindset, right? Oh, Republicans can't win in this area, right? You changed that. Well, the people changed it. And that speaks to what you just said, Chris, that this is a really important area. And as far as we are away from Boston, isn't it nice that the people of this county and the South Coast are now respected? For our vote and what we believe is right for our kids, our grandkids, and the future of this state. And so to your point, yeah, it's going to be critical. And that's why it's so important for everybody to go out and vote. You know, when you think about candidates who are out there working their tails off, right? Oh, yeah. Knocking on doors. Both Democrat and Republican. Oh, everybody. Yeah. We owe it not only to ourselves and our kids and our grandkids and one another to go out and determine our destiny. But we owe it to those people who go out. For months and months and months, you look at Mike Minogue, he starts at 4 o'clock in the morning. Every day, he's out running, boom, he's out the door, and he doesn't come back home until 9, 10 o'clock at night. Every night, all over the state. It's our time now to say, you know what? If somebody's willing to work that hard for us and for our future, don't we owe it to them to go out and cast a vote and say, this is, you're the person I want to take to Determine our future and help the state get to a better place? Some people say don't vote, it only encourages them. So maybe that's one view, Sheriff. Your view is one view. What about the people who go, hey, it only encourages those politicians to get out there and bother people. Don't vote. Well, the great thing about that, I would say in this case, and I know you're joshing me a bit, but the one truth of all this is Mike Minogue is not a politician. Well, he is now. Well, he's running for political office. People used to say that to me. He's always a politician. I said, no, I'm a public servant. Whenever people would say that to me, I said, no, I'm a public servant. I'm not a politician. Because I'm not in it for the politics. I'm in it to serve. And that's what Mike Minogue has always been about. You think he had, you think he, he made a choice to go to West Point. Right. He made a choice. He served in the Special Forces Army Rangers. Frontline defense, two tours in Iraq. He chose to do that to serve us, to defend our freedoms. And now he's choosing to do something he doesn't have to do. He doesn't need it, he doesn't have to take a salary. Yeah, but Mara Haley played basketball at Harvard. So it's really, I mean, think about her sacrifice, Sheriff. I mean, you're not really, I mean, and she played basketball in college, which is a tough thing to do. But with all due respect, seriously, Chris, Chris, I mean, you know, She did do a lot of dribbling, but she didn't score a lot. It's kind of consistent with what we've seen over her last four years, right? I guess unless that scoring is a metaphor, I don't know, Sheriff. We got some people on hold. The one and only former head of the police union in New Bedford, our friend Hank Turgeon. Good morning, Hank. How are you? You're on Lenny and the Sheriff. Good morning, gentlemen. Thanks for calling us, gentlemen. He had to, yeah. It's a beautiful day out here, and I just left the Potting Ways building in a Cushnet where I got to do my honor of voting for some good friends and some good candidates for next year's officials to represent us. But one thing that I did find odd, and I don't know if this has ever been a topic, is when When you do early voting, You get the envelope that has your ballot in it, and this year it's two different papers, front and back on the first page, and then the front on the second page, because of all the questions. But when you're done, you put it in your envelope, and you just stick it in a box that they have a couple of zip ties on, but no counter. There's no counting device on how many early ballots have been put into that. And when I voted every other year, you put it into the ballot machine and it counts how many ballots so that there's a tally. This, you're relying on the good people of Ocushnet to keep count. But across the state, it's a scary thought of how it could be manipulated. And I don't know, I think, why aren't they using the counters, the machines that count the ballots they could put into it? Do either one of you or any of the three of you know? I mean, I don't know the answer to that, Hank, other than I know they've had problems with those machines before. And I think I voted already as well, and it was that process. You have to sign your name on the envelope. It has to be sealed before you turn it into the person there. Thank you. I presume maybe they're thinking that if you handed it directly to somebody, you registered in. And then when you handed it in, you'd probably be able to tell, I'm guessing, that somebody tampered with an envelope or what have you. If they tried to get rid of envelopes, you still have the opportunity to show that people voted and it didn't come out the way it should. But I don't know the answer to your question, I guess, is the long and short of it. I'm just trying to surmise why they would have. Lenny, any thoughts? What were you going to say, Hank? It's Lenny. I was wondering what you were going to add. What I want to add is that, Tom, you just said that people should get through their cheat sheet before they go in there. And I want to tell you, this is probably the first year that I was more than informed on all the ballot questions walking in. And it's because of Chris, your show. I was able to hear from every candidate that was on there that was willing to come on your show. I was able to learn about the ballot questions that were on there, and they're lengthy. It took me 12 minutes from the time I walked in there, got my ballot, to the time I walked out. That's how long the—if you're reading each question, 12 minutes. And I was already educated, so I know there's going to be people walking in that have no clue, and they're just going to check boxes, and some of those questions are very, very deceiving. Good evening. The marijuana question alone is going to take millions and millions of dollars of revenue away from the state of Massachusetts because of the way that question reads. It's... Scary. I don't know. I don't know the process, but this was a tough year. And I want to thank you, Chris, for educating all your listeners and all the people that are walking in there. I gladly voted for Manoa Gulliver. I gladly, very gladly voted for Mark Montigny, Chris Markey, John Saunders. Good friend of mine was on there and unopposed. Chris Saunders, Jesse St. Jalais. I really got to vote for people that I know their platform. I know what they've done. I know what they want to do. Mostly because of your show, Chris. So I can't stop complimenting you on what you guys are doing on the show. So keep up the good work, gentlemen, and get out and enjoy this beautiful day. We appreciate it, Hank Turgeon. Great insight. Great insight. We're going to take a break, guys. We'll be back. Stick around. With Lenny Mills and Tom Hodgson, I'm Chris McCarthy. Stick around. I thought it was a rash, but my doctor said it was a tick bite. Ticks can spread Lyme disease and other illnesses leading to chronic health issues. My brother was always having asthma flare-ups. A roach problem at home was causing it. Allergens left behind by roaches and rodents are a major driver of asthma attacks. When I had a fever and body aches, I never thought it was West Nile virus. Mosquitoes breed in standing water and can spread serious diseases. 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Tom, there's a big rally tonight, as there was for Healy with Mayor Mitchell in New Bedford and in Fall River with Mayor Coogan. You, the shadow U.S. Senator from Massachusetts, are doing a rally at the Cultural Center in Fall River for Mike Minogue and all the other Republicans. Talk about that. Yeah, he was down there. About a week ago, doing a business roundtable and visited a couple of different business calls, Collision and Alexandra's, the big famous dress and wedding shops. Yeah. Big manufacturers. But anyway, yeah, tonight is going to be at the Cultural Club, the Cultural Center. Yes. Which is right on South Main Street, almost across from the courthouse. On South Main Street in Fall River, but this is a great opportunity for the South Coast. Come together and let's launch this pre-election march to victory, because it's gonna be a great event. Mike will be there, of course, it starts, it's five o'clock, five to seven, and come on down. I hope everybody will come down and have an opportunity. If you haven't met Mike, and you haven't heard him speak, and you haven't voted yet, I promise you It will be well worth your while to go there. And listen, meet him, he's really an amazing, amazing person. And I think anybody I've ever spoken to said, after you hear him speak, I'll be interested in your thoughts. And every single person I've ever asked afterwards has gone, wow. This guy really, really gets it. And- I don't know who else will be there. I don't know if Elizabeth Dion will be there or not, but I know Mike's going to be there. This is our last push down here for a huge march to victory. And he's going to be all over the state between now and Election Day. And then, of course, we'll be up in Burlington that night. And there's no truth to the rumor that Sean Oliver is going to jump like a chicken stand or anything like that in his car? I'm glad he asked you that, Cheryl. Yeah, but we're on to victory. There's no question about it. We are definitely on to victory. So that's just a rumor. I have not heard anything like that. I'll tell you what isn't a rumor May I? Sure, go ahead. Bristol County, it's exciting because like we're saying, and the sheriff is so eloquently pointing out, it's a crucial part for this election. And we're finally on the map, you know? And it's in large part, I know the sheriff's going to say it's all the people, and it is, but it's in large part because of the sheriff and him and his wife and the dogged commitment. of over 25 years to get Bristol County literally on the map. So the sheriff has done it. We have a responsibility to go out and vote. We have a responsibility for future generations, like the sheriff always points out, to go out there and make a change. And it's exciting to do that. But make no doubt about it, listeners, if it wasn't for the... Tom Hodgson and Julian Hodgson. We wouldn't be where we are today. So we're on the cutting edge of some real big changes next week. And hopefully, hopefully everyone can get out there and vote and bring people to vote. And maybe tonight come to this rally. I know I'm going. Christine's going. We're bringing people to it. So we're all excited about supporting Mike. If I may, just make this point. You're the shadow U.S. Senator. I appreciate the comments. I wouldn't dare stand in your way. But the truth is. But I'm no different than what happened with Mike Minogue, and it hammers home Lenny's point. We're blessed to have the opportunity to step up and serve. But people in the South Coast proved, for me, and they will for Mike Minogue, that you know what? If we do what is right, not just for us, our neighbors, our kids, our grandkids, by going out, when we see Massachusetts spiraling downward, people having trouble paying bills. A woman told me yesterday, she had her oil filled, it was half full. This woman has a good job, half full, and she got her oil bill for the other half that was full to fill it up. She said it was 900 bucks. And this woman has always been very a loyal Democrat, but I said to her, I said, well, this is all a result of Mar Healy not wanting the gas pipes to come in, and the different things that she's just ignored about our quality of life. And she said, you know what? And I never thought I'd hear her say it, but she said. I'm telling you, honestly, I think I'm going to vote for Mike Minogue. And this woman, nice lady, and she's always going back to the days of Trump. Same thing. Hey, listen, I'm not even getting near that. This time, she said, yes, just yesterday, I think I'm going to vote for Mike Minogue, and she meant it. And so the whole point of all this is when we get a chance to serve, and Mike's been out there, I was only given that privilege for the same reason Mike will. Well, if we choose. And we believe that that person is the right person to help us at that time in history, turn things around and give us a better opportunity and a better life for us and our kids. Then let's do it. Let's do it. I will tell you that if anybody heats their home with home heating oil, natural gas or propane, you really cannot afford to reelect Maura Healey. I'm telling you, you cannot. There's all kinds of hidden taxes. She's suspended temporarily and the Democrat Party. They're committed to raising the cost of fossil fuel to the point that people can't afford to use it. So they'll choose one of these electrical solutions like windmills or solar. That means you have to rip out your home heating system if it's oil or natural gas or propane. Most people in my audience cannot afford to do that. We're going to go right back to the phones. Good morning. Thanks for holding. Good morning, gentlemen. Hey, Scotty, what's happening? Good morning. Listen to this, Chris, and gentlemen, I never in my life thought I'd be calling in to the Chris McCarthy show to get all mushy, but Lenny, what you did for Chris in that watch, that is just so heart-touching. Well... That's a really beautiful gesture you made to him. Well, fortunately... I'm sorry, I interrupted you. Please go ahead. No, I was going to say, Chris, how are you going to reciprocate? He's going to be on time. Yeah. Well, listen, there was a line. You know, I come from a long history of fighting and professionally, you know, as far as kickboxing and running schools. I taught at the United States Navy. And I was a big fan of Rocky when it came out. I was 18 years old. And there was a line in Rocky when him and his brother-in-law were having a big dispute. And the brother-in-law, Paulie, kept saying, you owe me, you owe me. And Rocky said... But friends do because they want to do. So if that helps you, Shelly, understand where I'm coming from. Friends do because they want to do. Well, we can always tell every week when you're on. Just have a humongous heart. We know this. We all do. And Tom, not that you can't be included in this. I appreciate the way you're running your butt off. Oh, well, the state. You are just everywhere. And to help the fishermen the way you did, that's historical. To me, that's neat. To me, that's just huger than anything for you to have President Trump recognizing it. I mean, that's just humongous. So I thank you as well. Well, thank you. And you know what? It's, again, wherever we can, when something crosses our path, if we can help make the world a little bit better, we hope we do that. So I'm blessed to have had the opportunity. May I add something? Sure, go ahead. It's, it's, it's, it's. It's paramount that we recognize the sheriff because he's inspirational. Him and Julian are inspirational. And I've been involved with the sheriff almost the full 25 years. I would say 23, 24 years. I have a long history with the Hodgkins, and I'm here to tell you they have inspired me at every turn in my life. So we're blessed to have them in Bristol County. We really are. Well, you all are very kind, and we're blessed as well. That's why I call him the shadow U.S. Senator. The great friendships and things we've worked on together were really a blessing for us. Let's go back to the phones. Good morning. You're on with Tom Hodgkin and Lenny Mills, Jr. Good morning, gentlemen. How are you? Hey, we're doing great, Paul. Yeah, more than done. Good morning. Hey, I hope you're right about this election. It sounds like a great option, but here's the thing. Has the Republican Party done enough to help get rid of the problem? Let me help out with that. That phone's kind of really bad. Tom, has the Republican Party done enough for the ticket this year? Yeah, they have been, the state party has been very, very active. They're involved in voter integrity. They're involved, they've really dug in to the voter integrity issues. And they're very committed to doing everything we can to win this election. Do you think that any non-citizens that are voting will be detected and prosecuted here in the Commonwealth? I do. I don't think any non-citizen should try to vote in this election. Correct. And I think, I think, I think, I think without getting into a lot of detail, that that is absolutely, that is going to happen. Right. And, and perhaps already has. Yes. Yes. 508-996-0500. Good morning. Thanks for holding. Hey, good morning. Hey, Jimmy, what's happening? Good. Jimmy, there's something going wrong with your phone. Can you call back? Just call back, Jimmy. That could be on our end, though, too, because it was two calls in a row. So, um... We'll see if he'll call back. It could be on our end, guys. But just when you try to call through, maybe try to not be on a phone that's clicky. But it could be us. It could be us. Oh, you speak for yourself. So, right, um, so. So... Any of these ballot questions jump out at you that you want to get in here? A few minutes conversation on these ballot questions. Yeah, I'd like to weigh in on the marijuana one. Okay, go ahead. So with all my experience with addiction in my life from construction to martial arts to personally experiencing my family, personally experiencing it with my friends and loved ones, it's a challenge. Anytime you have a substance bought on the street, it's not controlled and it's dangerous. And we all know this fentanyl, that's what's being passed around. It's being sprayed onto these products and stuff like that, especially marijuana. So we have marijuana now as legal. It is a controlled substance now when it's purchased that way. It's not my high. I'm not a guy that I'm not promoting it because I've never used it. I don't use it. But I understand the the importance of People having a controlled substance like liquor. I'm not comparing the two, but I'm saying I'm comparing it In a sense it's controlled by the Commonwealth. And I think that is very important for people to keep in mind because it's very dangerous when people buy drugs on the street. We can get into a whole different discussion whether they should or not. I understand all that. I've been around the world a couple of times. I don't mean to be arrogant. It's a controlled substance now. I think we, my opinion is... I'd like to see we leave it in place, and it's a lot safer world for us to live in. It's a lot safer Bristol County. Yeah, and it's, well, I mean, I personally have a little bit different perspective on it in that it's, for medical marijuana use, that's important. The downside would be, to Lenny's point, it's control, no question. But what it does is it provides the opportunity for people who want something more than just what's controlled for the drug dealers to add. To the street marijuana. Right. And create a sub-market. Yes. So that's the pushback on it. So it's a tough, obviously a tough situation all the way around. But I do think, at a minimum, medical marijuana is, I think, something that has been proven to help people. Thank you. And that's controlled. Yeah. Whether or not it bumps up against what Lenny's saying on the other end with regards to the illicit stuff, I don't know what the percentage of that would be, but that's the one risk I think about. So question eight, that's the question on adult use of marijuana. And if you vote yes on question eight, you're prohibiting the sale of legal marijuana, controlled marijuana in the Commonwealth of Massachusetts. You're not eliminating marijuana no matter how you vote on that question, really. It'll either be legalized and controlled or back in the hands of organized crime. That's really what's going to happen on Question 8. I think we've got Jimmy back. Hold on. Good morning. Thanks, Jimmy, for calling back. Yeah, I hope everything's better now as far as the connection goes. Thank you. You know, Tom, I hope Mike Minogue emphasizes this, that we went from $8 billion into Charlie Baker, and now we've got $120 billion debt. We're going to borrow another $80 billion, and we got $4.2 billion lost revenue. But I wanted to just bring up this quickly, according to U.S. Bureau of Labor Statistics data and the Pioneer Institute, that from September of 2022 to September of 2024, we lost over $17,000. I'm sorry about that. Jimmy, call back. I'm sorry, but I keep hanging up on him. Well, I'm glad it's not just you and I, Sherrod, that get cut off on this program. Yeah, I know, but while we're waiting for him to call back, I know the point he brought up about the money that Maura Healey spent, I mean, she was left with a huge surplus under Charlie Baker, completely wiped that out, and now we're in debt. Thank you. And we're struggling to make ends meet. So to that first point, I think. He makes a great point. Good morning. You're on the air, Steve. Hey, good morning. Hey, what's happening? What happened? Not much. I love listening to you three guys, usually in this hour. Once in a great while, you'll pique my interest. Chris, when you said, is there anything on the ballot questions, there is one that gets me. And I'm going to force it through this way. Question three. You can wrap question three in a pretty bow, everyone. It's still ranked choice voting. And if you want to know what Ranked Choice Voting will give you... Take a peek at Alaska with the two Dan Sullivans. If they did not have ranked choice voting, this would have never happened. Because after listening to the news this morning at 10:30, there's information that's coming out that during the primary, because of ranked choice voting, people were confused which Dan Sullivan to vote for. And that's how a nobody named Dan Sullivan, who's a retired school teacher. Who had never campaigned one minute, got the third place vote for the Senate in Alaska because they took the top three candidates because it's an open primary. This would have never happened if it was a closed primary. I don't know how you guys feel. I agree with you. I agree with you, Steve. I personally agree with you. I am not for ranked choice voting. It is the end of the Republican Party if we in Massachusetts push through questions like this. Yeah, I agree with you, Steve. But I don't think it's ranked choice voting. Question three is not ranked choice voting. It is ranked choice voting, Chris. It just doesn't have the name. Nobody puts it through as ranked choice voting anymore. They call it open primary. Just look at it. It's just called open primary now. It's exactly what ranked choice voting is. It's just that they know it's got such bad connotations, they don't want to use that anymore. But it's devastating to states. I mean, you wouldn't want ranked choice voting if you were a Democrat. Well, maybe you would now in Texas with all the people who are moving there, you know, from California and Michigan who are moving into Texas. And that's half their problem, them bringing their politics there. But you wouldn't want that in a state that was red if you were a Democrat. So you're saying vote no on question three. I'm voting no, and I sent a mass email out to the Republicans. You guys can't get confused with this, that I still had from when I was a state committee man. I said, listen, guys, you've got to vote no on three. And what made me decide to do it was I have friends who are Republicans who thought that the commercials were good ideas. Okay. All right. Thanks for the call, Steve. We do appreciate it. We're going to take a break, guys. We'll be back more with Tom Hodgson, Lenny Moser Jr. I'm Chris McCarthy. I see Jimmy on hold, so we'll be right back. South Coast Now with Chris McCarthy. Weekdays on 1420 AM and 99.5 FM. WB WBSM. Welcome back to the program. I'm Chris McCarthy. We're joined by Lenny Mills Jr. and Tom Hodgson. Make this autumn, make the safe choice this autumn, this fall with Citywide Glass. Does your windshield have a big crack in your view? Did you wake up to vandalism overnight? Don't stress. Call the pros at Citywide Glass. They can repair or replace your auto glass quickly and safely. Best of all, their mobile tech team will come right to you. Your windshield can be replaced while you're at home, at work, on the job site, even at a shopping center. At no extra charge. Life is busy. Let Citywide Glass make your auto glass repair easy. Citywide Glass, make the safe choice. Visit citywideglass.net. Let's go right back to the phones. Good morning. Thanks for calling back, Jimmy. I'm sorry. Hey, gentlemen. Back again. Did they say the third time's a charm? Correct. Correct. Correct. I was saying that just to pick up where I left off, according to the U.S. Bureau of Labor Statistics. And their data that in from September of 2022 to 2024, we lost over 17,000 jobs. And in 2023, here in the Commonwealth, we lost a net total of 70 corporate firms directly to other states. They went to Florida, Texas and North Carolina in the third quarter of 2025. We lost four thousand six hundred jobs. that's went buh-bye. And also... According to their data, there's been a drop of 7,100 non-farm jobs in the August of 2026 alone. So we're being lied to by the Democrats and Maura Healey. She's cutting taxes. Utility's going down. She's creating jobs. I love his jobs. But the data doesn't reflect that. You know, I think he makes a great point. When you have somebody that's supposed to be in leadership, Like Governor Healey, who's more focused on something other than what her job is. She's been focused on politics. I mean, you think about it. Look at all the things she's done in the time she's been in office. It's always been she's looking down on Washington and blaming everybody else. Instead of saying, wait a minute. And people need to, I think, really think about this. You keep blaming everybody else who aren't even here, right? Who aren't even directly involved. You've been doing it since you were Attorney General. She did the same thing. She was tied in with Mayorkas on the immigration stuff. You know, she was on the border in Mexico, in Mexico on the border, saying that it was wrong that the United States wasn't letting people come in here illegally. This is a woman who's been focused outside there, not worried about the fact that there were people in our communities, laying in our airports, all over the floor, you know, who are here illegally. Shutting down, she shut down community services. Inside security zones. They had illegal immigrants sleeping on the floor inside of zones that are secure, supposed to be secure at Logan Airport. It was a major tragedy. Yeah, and if you're not focused on, let's say you had your own business, which she technically did, and you're not focused on what revenues are coming in, if we're running short, or we're not able to help keep these people buying our product, They're going to leave. Well, guess what? They are, because you're not paying attention to that. Oh, yeah, and they're leaving in mass droves, Tom. Yeah. Let me just say one more thing, Tom. You were talking about a woman that can't afford to put home heating oil in her house. Yes. If Maureen Healy gets in, she's going to implement the clean heat standard, net zero. Yep, yes. According to MassFiscal, that's going to increase your yearly heating costs. From $255 to $425 per household, and it's going to affect families, seniors, and small businesses. That's my last point. Now listen, you guys have a good week. Thanks, Jimmy. Hope to hear you tomorrow on Santos on Sports. Lenny, you actually are in business. How hard is it to do business here in the common? I have a lot of trucks on the road that run diesel fuel, right? And I got to tell you what, I've been opening up the fuel. The fuel bills for the last month and a half, and it's like something just blows your mind. You're like, something's drastically wrong. I know it's wrong, but I'm being facetious. I mean, it's crazy. And then I seen today on the news they were paying $6 or something for home heating fuel. And so, yeah, it's really problematic. And like Jimmy points out, and by the way, he's a great caller with the facts and stuff. You go ahead and she starts to pass these things if she's reelected and even penalizes people anymore. It's just how much can the people take? I mean, it's really, really putting stress on the average person. And by the way, some of us... A lot of businesses are leaving, but some of us can't leave. I mean, my business is a local business. I mean, I can't even go to Boston, really. You know what I mean? I certainly can't move to Tennessee with my company. I have to do a new startup, you know? So we're here, and we have to deal with the cost. We have no choice whatsoever. And how about the people on fixed incomes? They have no choice with these increase of fuels and the surcharges and the electric bills. It's just crippling. And keep in mind that these people didn't just leave, you know, overnight. This was leading up to something over her four years that she wasn't doing anything. And if they had some hope that she's making a decision here, a decision there, that looks like they would have paused and stayed, but she wasn't. She was focused on anything other than trying to take care of the people she was elected to take care of. And I'll point out. Most of these people, the vast majority, aren't leaving the country. They're just moving to a different state that still has President Trump in the Oval Office, right? They're not all leaving the country. They're leaving the Commonwealth to go to another state where the president is still Donald Trump. Let's go back to the phones. Good morning. Thanks for holding. Chris, let me just preface my call by saying I want. Mike Minogue to win this election so badly as amongst a lot of other people. I just want to say that. But here's my concern. How? How? And I'll tell you my question. How are we going to beat the population of Eversource, the population of the state police, and the population of the people that depend on welfare and other services in Massachusetts? How do we compete with just Those three groups of people alone, how do we do it? Go ahead, Tom. Well, let me start with the state police. First of all, the state police, you know, this whole notion that, oh, they're all, they endorsed Mara Healy. The truth is, and I was talking to somebody yesterday who knows a lot of state troopers and said they're not voting for Mara Healy. The leadership in the union, which is typical for any union, look, they do this. The unions play politics to get. Position and things like that with whoever's in office. But the state police themselves, they're all about law and order. These are respectful people who go out and risk their lives every day. They know what Maura Healey has failed to do. In regards to supporting law enforcement and the collaboration with one another and making their jobs safer and the community safer, they're not going to vote for Maura Healey, the majority of them. They're going to be voting for the person that's going to take care of them and their families. And with regards to Eversource, Eversource may have at the top of the chain, they may be influential people with the money at the top, but they're not the people who are paying the bills around. Uh, the electric bills going up and all that, that's the average person in our community. So I, I think I hear your point caller, but I don't think it, um, it translates to, uh, a difficult situation for Mike. I think it's actually, I heard some union people saying who were in a standout at the last debate, uh, they were union people. They're walking away saying, look, we're holding Healey signs, but we're not voting for Healey. We're voting for no. I got to take a break. We'll be right back. Stick around. Thanks for the call. That was a good question. We'll be right back. Welcome back to the program. I'm Chris McCarthy. We've got Lenny Mills Jr. from Rehoboth. Tom Hodgson with us as well. Gentlemen, we've got some people on hold. Good morning. Thanks for holding. Good morning, gentlemen. Okay, good morning. I'm going to bring up something that I know Chris and I disagree on, and that's referendum number five. I think that's a Trojan horse. As I studied civics in school, we were operating on a two-party system, the party in power and the loyal opposition. I think you got the wrong question. Question five is the legalization or decriminalization, de-legalization of marijuana. Okay, I'm talking about the one where it's going to be open primary. Yeah, three. You're thinking about three. Okay, I'm sorry. Thank you for correcting me. And I just think you need to have two major parties. It was a two-party system. And a party that's in power, one that's out of power, and a loyal opposition. And that way, you won't allow a person who might be very charismatic, but maybe be wacky with some ideas and stuff that they have, just get in there on an easy breeze. I don't care the fact that Charlie Baker was for it and Deval Patrick was for it. That doesn't mean anything to me. I'm an independent voter, and I vote the person. And I just think that's a very dangerous thing to go to. Maybe when you guys go to lunch, you can discuss it a little bit and think if my ideas have any merit. Your ideas all have merit. There's no doubt about that, sir. Well, I just want to try to bring it up. I'm really afraid of that for the country in the future. I think there's only five states that have that, that have that referendum in the whole country. And it allows in I think maybe some people that are very charismatic but maybe don't I have ideas that are very, you know, possible. Thank you. Thank you. Question three. Gentlemen, have a good weekend. Anything special for Halloween? No, not at all. No, I think you're going to look great going out just like you are. We're going to be pushing to Bristol County to get Mike Minogue's word out there. That's what we're going to do right through the finish line. And Elizabeth Dion, really. Elizabeth Dion, Mike Walsh. Doors by the Globe, Mike Walsh for AG. Yeah, we're going to push really hard. All right, guys, I'm out of here. All right, folks, I'm out of here. God willing, I'll be back on Monday. Have a blessed weekend. And be good.