In this video Jennifer Graff and Tony Harrison give you a look at the Cordelia Nextgen and Juliet Nexgen models located at Lennar Fairview in Summerlin, NV. The pair aren't impressed for the asking price and tell us 5 reasons why you shouldn't go for it! What do you think of the homes at Lennar Fairview? Is it worth the price? Let us know in the comments below!
So hello, today we are out at Lennar Fairview again
and I'm here with Tony. If you might recall,
we were out here in July.
We talked a little bit about the floor plan next door. Today we're
featuring the Cordelia floor plan,
which is just over 3,800 square feet. Now this builder has been
selling these since July.
In this video, we're going to be talking about the five reasons why
So Lennar has only had three sales in here since July,
and that is over from 85 homes.
If you saw our video in July,
you might've gotten a couple tidbits of information to
know why that might be happening.
But today we're going to dig in a little bit further
as well as toward the Cordelia.
So thank you again so much for being here.
We're going to get into it.
And this is your Vegas Confidential.
Okay, so we are over here in Grand Park,
and there is quite a few other single-story
communities that Lennar is going to be competing against.
We'll get into those a little bit later in the video.
But here at Lennar Fairview, there's going to be 85 homes,
all single-story floor plans,
and they're going to be priced anywhere
from $1.5 to about $1.8 million is going to be
your base prices.
And then they do have some quick move-ins
that we can touch upon a little later,
and they've had some significant price reductions.
The market overall, and if you've watched a lot of my videos,
I do talk about it quite a bit right now,
the market has slowed significantly, even since July.
We've, you know,
Rates have gone up.
We have over 10,000 listings on the market right now.
Buyers have more choice than ever.
They also have their choice in new construction as well.
And I think when builders don't put their
best foot forward, well, you're going to see the separation in sales,
right? Like you're going to
see much, some builders do much better than others.
So that's what we're going to be talking
about today, as well as give you a tour of this Cordelia floor plan.
I love having Tony with me.
As you know, he's got some great commentary.
I'm excited to hear what's going on in his head right
So, uh, let's get into it. Okay. All right.
So we're going to do our tour and then through our
video, we're going to be talking about the five reasons why,
uh, Fairview is not selling right
now. We, we have some ideas and the first one,
what we have, and Tony's going to be great at
this is going to be the price versus the finish level.
And I think that's a lot of places where
Lennar there's a, there's a little bit of a disconnect.
So we're going to walk through
through this particular floor plan
and talk about the finish level.
And talk about what the prices are.
Tony mentioned that anything that they have as far
as quick move-ins are in the $2 million range.
Right around there, yes.
So high bar for this area.
For this area.
And of course, like I said, we are in Summerlin,
so location plays a part into it.
But with a softer market
and a builder not really bringing their A game to market,
well, it kind of shows.
So here we are.
We are.
Well, at least it's not white cabinets.
So we've got, you know, a little bit more variety in the color schemes.
And again, we're looking at the model. Right.
So it should be the best of the best. The best of the best.
And Lennar always...
balances the that with the everything's included mantra.
So you are going to see maybe some more
standard finishes in some of these homes. Exactly.
And that is their that is essentially how they do
business, which which in a lot of price ranges,
I think is really smart because that everything's
included feature. I guess I used to work at Lennar.
I think that's great in that when you are in some
Some prices ranges.
You get a lot more for your money
because Lennar built buys a lot of these
finishes and things like that in bulk. So you have less choice,
but you can get a really great value.
I feel like when they get
to these higher price points with the finish level,
um, we had seen actually show when I show them in the bathroom,
just as far as some of the finish level, I can't remember. This is the,
this is the primary.
And right off the bat, you notice.
Yes.
Well, what I noticed was this mirror.
And, you know, this is what you would find in a Motel 6.
I mean, this is not, you know, and again, it's the model.
So, you know, I know they're trying
to balance showing what you're going to get with the home.
Right.
With what options, and they might be very limited.
But you would at least expect in a $2 million home
to have base finishes that are more than just...
They're very basic, right?
So there's not even two lights.
Yeah, there's nothing overhead.
You just get the basic mirror.
Yeah.
You know, obviously here, they're just showing you what you can get.
But this is optional, as you know.
The additional washer and dryer.
But this is sort of fancy.
So, I mean, okay, so very clear,
number one on our list as far as why Fairview at Lennar
is not selling is there's zero wow factor to these,
and I think, you know that's my
word, wow factor, I say that a lot,
but I feel like you walk in the door and you just
don't have it.
Well, and at $2 million, you should expect that,
because all of the competition in this
area is going to have some wow factor in every one of their plans.
Correct.
The most basic models with no upgrades,
you'll get maybe some vaulted ceilings.
Right. And you'll get some interest. Yeah.
You'll get some interesting features.
And here you just get one there, one there.
You know, I do appreciate that they did,
you know, this isn't acrylic. So, so we have that.
Yeah. Then no pan at least.
Yeah. Yeah. So this is, but I don't even know,
I mean, like, obviously you, you can probably do
Uh in the field for sure, although I would say generally
that that's a little bit more unusual for Lennar
Because a lot of times they don't give you a lot of choice, correct?
Uh, so you really have to go to the design center here
and see what your actual it's like an experience center
So it's just an experience. It's not you're
not designing anything. It's just an experience
Okay, so that is number one and I think that's that is a big challenge
because I think again in this market
you guys have a lot of choice, right?
There's a lot of opportunity. There's a lot to see that
all fall into the very same price range as this.
And I think the finish level, even for the models,
it's not even what you might even get in the field,
but that first draw into the models where
you are absolutely supposed to get an experience and be like,
oh my gosh, I absolutely love this.
You know, I
I just think that this is a challenging price range,
you have a lot of competition, and
I think Lennar could be essentially having issue
at this because the finish levels really
in any of these models are going to be pretty underwhelming,
I guess would be the word.
You'll see it again as we go through here, particularly in the pantry.
I know, we're wandering around,
but we want to show you all the different reasons why.
I'm not going to steal your thunder, so walk into the pantry, Tony.
Yes, come on.
We're going to walk into the pantry.
Let's take a look at what made me gasp when we walked in here,
and I'll give them the
benefit of the doubt that maybe there
was something else planned in here.
Again, this is the model,
and I cannot believe this is what we're seeing.
This is unfinished.
There's a ton of issues with the drywall and the baseboards,
and again, maybe there
was some issue in here, but I am shocked that...
They would allow this without a sign,
something else, and this gets into it.
Still under construction.
That's a good introduction.
Well, we'll talk about this later too,
but we are very much on our own here.
And everything is left to our imagination
because there is no one in the sales office.
Correct. There's nobody here.
And we're going to talk about that a little bit more.
So without further ado, let's get into reason number two,
Lennar Fairview might not be selling. Okay. So reason number two,
This isn't for everybody, but this is the conversation,
is that every home here has
a next-gen suite,
which I have clients that I talk to that absolutely really love that
next-gen suite opportunity, but if you don't need that,
if you don't want that, that automatically
disqualifies this product.
And I feel like other builders...
Give you some options.
Give you some options where you can create those spaces.
I can think of Pulte.
I can think of Richmond American.
I can think of other builders
that in this size single story definitely have the ability
to create next gen suites.
Obviously, there's a cost associated with those.
So maybe that would make you come back here.
But if you don't want that space, if that has no use to you,
then why would you buy a house that
has it if you're just not going to use it? Right.
And again, every other builder that's in this area
that I can think of that offers a next gen option offers other options
so that if you want a game
room. And then Peter, you said that you liked this next.
Peter actually liked this next gen suite.
Um, so it's in over here. We're going to walk in over here
and there's nothing, you know,
there's nothing wrong with this at all.
It's just a matter of like, if you need it, it's great.
But if you really don't, it just becomes a completely unusable space.
Right. Like, do you really want a refrigerator
and a stove in your game room? If you want it
to just get creative with the space. Right. Oh, I don't really need it.
And I did move the refrigerator in because it was making me crazy.
And then there's still room
that I could actually slide back in here as well.
But I was just a little skinnier.
I see it.
So, you know, it's just something to think about
because this is an expensive price range.
And if this is not something that's on your radar
or it's something that you need or something
you're like, well, shoot, I don't want my parents living with me.
I don't want them to give them a reason why.
You know, and that's very real.
Like if you don't need the space, then it automatically
disqualifies this product. And I think that's a mistake.
I think having that option of either
having the next gen suite or just literally not having it
and being able to convert this into
something else through the builder, not,
not after close of escrow, but through the builder,
I feel like not offering that choice.
For this specific buyer profile, I think is a mess.
Yeah, and not to mention, you can just go down the street
to every other builder that's offering these options
and get it.
Right, Taylor Morrison, Ashland has an option for it,
but it's, you can also, doesn't need to be.
Okay.
And I think, again, it's just sort of the having
that conversation with a clientele base
and being like, you know, this should be something
that could be optional.
So number two on my list, as far as why,
Lennar Fairview is not selling is that next gen suite,
not an option, but an absolute
have in these.
And I think that's a mess.
All right, we're going to get on to number three.
Okay. So one thing kind of interesting
to note is that for the month of September,
Lennar actually sold the most homes out
of any builder here in our Valley. Maybe just not here,
but they had 108 sales. So posting big numbers, which is great.
It's just funny though, that it
obviously is not here. So number three on our list,
as far as why Lennar Fairview is not selling
What I'm telling is,
the competition. And I think we talked a little bit about that earlier,
but you know, being up
here in Grand Park and Summerlin, you have La Madre peaks as well.
You're playing with
the big boys up here as far as finish level. And I feel like
Maybe knowing that, I think there could have been a better game here.
And then we're talking about,
Tony and I were just at Agave Ridge, which they were doing
their lumber and lattes this morning.
They're going to open for their interest list next month in November.
2,800 to 3,800 square feet, TriPoint, you guys,
they bring a beautiful, they have beautiful
models. They are well thought out, great finishes,
and they are going to be, they are one of several
builders that are going to be competing directly
with this Fairview product. That's right. And,
you know, the other...
Issue two is, at least at the time of filming,
there are other quick move-ins available.
And all of the three that are available here at Lennar,
at Fairview, are all in that $2 million price range.
You can go down the street to Glenrock at Toll Brothers.
They have a single-story quick move-in as of right now,
almost 3,900 square feet.
And if you'd like more information on that, give me a call.
Yes, you can call me.
1.875, somewhere around there.
Yeah, I know.
Maybe 1.8.
And about the same square footage.
Same square footage.
And it's Toll Brothers.
And it's Toll Brothers.
Which, you know, we talked about in the first video
that Lennar, if there's one thing they're
always known for, it's value, value for the dollar.
You're getting value for your money.
And when you're at par with Toll Brothers, TriPoint, Richman America.
I don't think they're proving their value proposition.
And I think there is a way to do that.
And I think it's completely price-driven
because if you need this amount of square footage
and you're not as finish-driven,
so this should be the product go-to,
but it's very difficult to make that case
at the current price point,
as well as what people can understand
for as far as what else they can get.
Also, this is a great point to note.
It's just the delivery here. So we're thinking about, we drove up here,
any other builder that we would go to in this price point,
especially in Summerlin,
there is a sales agent to greet us,
to give us the information, to walk us through the models,
to give us a genuine tour as far as why
this is the best product here in Summerlin.
For this, what this is a single story
at essentially $2 million. When you make us
essentially walk through by ourselves,
and we have to make up our own narrative based on what we're
seeing. Well, I think that's also a big miss.
And I think that's another reason why that they aren't
selling as much as they could be up here.
Because essentially, we come out here, there's nobody here
to talk to. It's just us. We had to scan a QR code.
I had to sign up for a newsletter.
And admittedly, you can sign up for my newsletter.
Well, and that's why, especially if you're wanting
to tour Fairview, you better
call Jennifer because there's no other option
to get some actual feedback about what you're
seeing.
And, you know, it really blows my mind that.
This is the only community that I can think
of up here in Summerlin West that other than
other Lennar communities.
Right.
And I think that's just a big miss.
Serve yourself.
Correct.
So the competition is very real in this price point in Summerlin
and not having an idea
of not only what the competition is serving,
but also not having anybody here to explain
the value proposition of why you should buy Lennar Fairview,
I think is another miss.
rolled in. So that's number three on our list.
The competition is very strong and there's a lot
to choose from. And then not having somebody here
to essentially kind of help, I think is a big miss.
So that's number three.
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Okay, I'm trying to get access to the tour,
I had to scan a QR code, and then I had to fill out my form,
and then I had to get a code back from AT&T,
and now I have to start the tour, and I think that might work, okay,
I'm not, no, we're going to open Juliet, here we are, we get to go in,
this is very luxury, it just screams luxury, doesn't it?
Okay. This is the Juliet floor plan.
And when we were here last, um, they actually hadn't done
all the, uh, the, the furniture yet.
So this, we, we didn't really know what this was. So apparently
there are many places to eat here. We were, we were wondering.
why they wouldn't possibly do two dining rooms.
What was this space going to be? Well, it turns
out, no, there is two dining rooms. It's a dining room.
So that brings us to number four on our list
and ironically enough, and again,
we are now standing in the Juliet floor plan and number
four on our list, as far as why, um,
why our Fairview might not be selling is the floor plans.
I, you know, I think, you know,
when you're speaking to this level of square footage
And, you know,
Buyers have gotten a lot more sophisticated,
and I also feel like since COVID, people really want to
have spaces where they can be with everyone,
and then they also want spaces that are like loft areas
or, you know, dens or just other spaces
in the house that would allow them to kind of be.
This kind of, you know, screams very large.
Great room with, you know, a multitude, excuse me, of dining spaces.
Okay, you can be over here.
And what's funny, because even when I was at Cactus Bloom,
I was there with Chris like a week
ago, this area was actually kind of more enclosed
and they had it done as a sitting room.
So it allowed for additional types of spaces.
And to be clear, a direct competitor of this right now
would be Cactus Bloom up in La Madre Peaks.
Yeah, and you know, and if you go and...
Dr. Jennifer, you'll tour all of these comparable properties
and that's what's going to happen is
you'll leave here and you'll go there for the same money.
And that's what I struggle with. If
it wasn't the same money,
then if you truly need the square footage and you just need a big giant box
Then I think that would
be at this point, because what
the things they cannot fix,
they cannot fix the finishes.
They cannot fix the floor plans. There's a lot of things that
are not fixable. The one thing that they could do is be the, the best.
priced product for this segment.
And I think that's really going to be the way for them to
win sales. And right now, as of time of filming,
that's just not the case.
I would worry as a buyer that because they
are traditionally very aggressive on price
if things don't sell,
that I would buy here potentially and start to lose value because
they're not selling.
And then all of a sudden, now we're in the red,
and that's just not a normal state of
affairs typically for newer construction.
Things really have to not be going well.
For that to happen, but they've had a history
of being very aggressive on price, and I think
that's what's so unusual for me here to accept,
is that they usually are the value
They are the value leader.
So yeah, if you walked in here,
and this is at 1.4 or 1.5, it's like, okay.
Okay, now we're talking, and here's the thing,
because you know if you watch a lot of my
videos, or if you've met me in person,
I talk a lot about resale, and I talk about the fact
The fact that
A lot of people think that once that builder leaves
and that community is finished, that
no matter who built those homes,
that there's just a sort of value across the board.
And that's actually not true.
And I've seen that in communities that are like five or six years old,
what certain builders
communities are trending at five or six years later versus others.
And there's a difference. And so don't just think it's like
on your way in that that difference is,
it's actually on your exit strategy as well.
I know I'm laying a lot of information into this,
but all of this becomes really important as far as where that million,
$2 million is going in
and what your realtor can ultimately get back
to you whenever you decide to sell.
So these are bigger question, but number four on our list.
...is really the floor plans
and really just sort of the lack of innovation, I guess I would say.
These are single-story with the ceilings.
Anything you want.
You can put a tray up there.
Right.
There's not even any pendant lights here.
There's just the canned lights.
And then even in the other model we were in...
All of these are just empty and blank here, up here.
All right.
So, you know, and we'd love to hear from you in the comments,
which I'm sure you're going
to give it to us.
But what, you know, what do you guys think?
I mean, again, we're being very transparent here.
We are up in Summerlin.
Summerlin overall is one of, you know,
the best selling master plans in the country.
And it's a beautiful place to live.
Um, but you know, we are noticing with a slower market,
there are builders that are
building communities.
Some are performing better than others.
And, uh, we're just here to share with you what
our thoughts are as far as why this one
isn't going to be selling.
So that was number four.
And now let's get into number five.
Okay.
So number five, uh, on our list,
as far as why Lennar Fairview might not be selling here
in Summerlin.
It is the name on the door.
And I think that Lennar is, you know, one of the largest builders
in the country. They sell a ton of homes out here in our Valley.
And I think they do a really good
job in a lot of price points.
However, I think when you get to this level, especially when I
talk to people on the phone,
I've talked to a lot of you on the phone, is that
People actually come to the table and say, like, oh, I don't want
Lennar because that expectation right out of the gate is that they're
not going to get a million dollar home in this price point.
Or necessarily have all the options available to choose from.
Correct. Exactly. That they can get elsewhere. And I think, you know.
When I think about branding, which is huge,
I think some of the other builders,
when they have different levels, like a D.R. Horton even,
they have different names as far
as how they brand those homes. And of course,
Just my point of view,
I think there could be like even like a Lennar Gold or just something
that sets the expectation that you're getting a Lennar home
and all the great things that
Lennar can bring to the table.
But then you getting that sense of that,
like this is their premium product.
Sure.
Or, you know, conversely, they could just be super aggressive on price.
Correct.
Which do you want? So I think there's two things here.
And I think you're right. I think either
Lennar goes into it with the thought process of,
hey, we are the value leader and then price
accordingly.
Um, based on the finish level,
the floor plans and everything that you get, essentially,
it's a square footage for price game, which,
which I think is a very, is a good value proposition.
If you want to build a superior product
to maybe other types of building that you do,
then, then the other option would be to label it differently.
Yeah.
Version or some, some wood side, for example, has.
Right. There's a lot of different, and people,
what's interesting is that I think sometimes
people feel like people are going to get confused by that,
but I don't think so at all, because I
think when you brand it properly
and people understand the value proposition for the
branding that you're doing, I think it can make a lot of sense.
So those would be my reason number five
Uh, is essentially currently the name
on the door versus the price point.
I think there is a little bit of a disconnect there.
Yeah.
Yeah.
And it's not like we're trying to, you know, trash Lennar or anything.
No, that is not, that is not the point here.
The point here is really talking about, um, right.
What's really an interesting time right now,
because I feel like in another market, everything
would be selling every single home.
You know, I sold homes, you know, back during COVID that.
You know, like maybe there were things wrong,
there was floor plans or whatever it is,
but I feel like in the market that we're currently in,
I think that disconnect between what buyers
want and then the value proposition that you're offering becomes,
there's a wider gap.
Well, and you, you know, we talked about
the arches the last time around.
Right.
A similar product that Lennar had during COVID.
Correct.
Much more competition, much hotter market.
Yes.
Those had arguably nicer finishes in there,
and they didn't have any trouble selling.
Yeah.
And because it was a combination of nice enough and value.
Yes, correct.
It was good value for the dollar.
And so now, you know, it's a softer market.
They're going to have to do more.
And I liked the Arches floor plans a little bit better, too.
And I liked the finishes better, and I liked the exteriors better.
I think they did a much nicer job.
And I feel like in this market, if you don't bring your A-game,
then I think you're going to be exposed.
I think it does feel like they had anticipated a much hotter market
maybe for this product than they wound up getting just because.
There's not much going on.
So those are our five reasons.
So essentially, we'd love to hear from you.
Um, you know,
This is all about transparency,
talking about what's happening here locally.
If you're coming from out of state
and you really want to understand what's happening
here, there's a lot of great information I,
Tony, too, would love to share with you,
obviously, but I'm the only one licensed.
So I guess you have to talk to me.
Talk to her.
Tony could come along, but again,
this is all about the conversation, seeing here the
disconnect between the,
the amount of sales that they're having here and really trying
to understand why is really the purpose of our video today.
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If you're still here, we're still,
we're talking and this is after our video is done.
But Tony, you had some great, you were kind
of had some great conversation we were having
off camera.
So we decided to jump back on and talk.
Well, one of the things that's so important.
So I bought here recently in a slower market up here in Summerlin West
and use Jennifer
as my realtor.
And that's part of the reason why I enjoy helping
with these videos is because there's
buyer perspective and things that I can help provide
and also that Jennifer helped with me.
With me,
You know, when we were talking about
You know, what price to pay in a challenging market,
what the issues might be in terms
of if I have to sell right away versus waiting a few years.
And one of the things Jennifer cautioned was,
you know, give me five years, make sure that
you're willing to stay where I'm buying at least five years
because then Grand Park will
be built out.
There'll be a lot of incentive
and reason for people that would want that resale home.
And I think here...
...is another example where, you know,
if you're interested in any of the Fairview models,
call Jennifer because she's going to talk
to you about the risks associated with...
Purchasing now with a price that is not terribly competitive
in a market that's slow and then
just the fact that Lennar is also they become very aggressive on price
when things are slow
when things are not selling
and it's slow here it's not selling and so the prices are
going to come down and then it's just a matter of how much.
How much they're going to come down.
And one of the things too, we were talking about is the fact
that the finishes follow you.
That would probably be my best thing to say is that how these houses
get finished. And it's not even if you take a house here
and then upgrade the crap out of it.
Um, all of your, you, you,
you have to consider what your neighbors are doing and no matter how
much you upgrade it after close of escrow,
there's going to be people that are your neighbors that
are, might just take the basic finishes
and that will affect the overall resale of a community.
And I know specifically where that's happening now.
And these are just conversations I have
with my potential buyers as far as like, just know the finish level.
And I know a lot of people just think about what they're doing,
but I'm also thinking about your neighbors
and what they're going to be doing.
Yeah, and location will help to a point,
and the view will help to a point.
So you could buy one of these homes here at a more aggressive price
and potentially have a great view, have some opportunity to make sure
that you don't lose too much
of your investment or that it's any sort of...
You know, multi-year endeavor
to get some money back out of the property.
Right.
And here, I mean, Summerlin, I think overall
is going to hold its value really well.
But we just wanted to chat with you more.
So I hope you enjoyed staying a little bit longer with us.
As we said earlier, it's great to have you here.
And we'll see you next time.