Rubin finds Neptune’s trojans and two new companions to the Milky Way, China reveals more of its plans to send humans to the Moon, finding the seeds of supermassive black holes. And on Space Bites+, how Mars has microclimates near its North Pole.
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This episode of SpaceBytes explores recent astronomical breakthroughs, including discoveries from the Vera Rubin Observatory, China's 2030 lunar goals, and theoretical research on primordial black holes. It also examines the astronomical accuracy of Van Gogh's \"Starry Night,\" the impact of solar storms on the Van Allen belts, and new imagery of the Carina Nebula.
Rubin finds Neptune's Trojans and two new companions to the Milky Way.
China reveals more of its plans to send humans to the Moon.
Finding the seeds of supermassive black holes,
and on SpaceBytes Plus, how Mars has microclimates
near its North Pole.
All this and more, in this week's SpaceBytes.
Well last week we talked about how Vera Rubin has found
a new dwarf planet here in the Solar
System.
And the Rubin discoveries just keep on coming.
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And so now we've got a couple of more discoveries
that I want to talk with you about.
So the first one, and this, I think this is maybe bigger than another,
just like another dwarf planet.
And that is that astronomers have used Rubin
to find Neptune's Trojan asteroids.
So the Trojan asteroids, you know,
we're going to talk about Lagrange points here.
I know you're all really excited about that.
So there are the five Lagrange points.
Three are relevant to this conversation, but two, the L4 and the L5.
Proceed and trail a planet in its orbit around the Sun.
And so, Earth has Trojans, Jupiter has a lot of Trojans,
and of course this is where NASA's
Lucy mission is going, Saturn has found to have Trojans,
Uranus has Trojans, but Neptune,
the problem is that the Trojans are currently
in a region that is very obscured by the Milky
Way.
It's a very bright region of the sky, and so it's really difficult.
To pick out some faint objects moving at just
the right speed to indicate that they're Trojan
asteroids in line with Neptune.
Vera Rubin could find them.
The researchers were looking through Vera Rubin data,
and this is sort of the great thing
about having this giant survey of the entire sky,
is you can look at the part of it that
you're interested in.
So they knew where the Trojan asteroids had to be,
or they have to be, 60 degrees ahead
and behind Neptune in its orbit.
And so that's two very distinct regions that they could then search.
And they were able to find two Trojan asteroids
and then another candidate object that they
haven't been able to verify yet.
Now, there's another image that was released as part
of the press package that we got on this story.
And that's this really cool image showing the asteroids
that have been found by Vera Rubin so far.
And you can see what looks like these cones.
Extending out from planet Earth and that's because these are regions
that Rubin has scanned so far and so you can see the region where all
of the new asteroids are and then you can see all
of the known asteroids in sort of a much larger band
around the solar system and then I promised you some more discoveries
from Vera Rubin and this time
we've got the discovery of a new globular cluster
and a new dwarf galaxy orbiting around the Milky Way and
The Milky Way is surrounded by dozens of these smaller dwarf galaxies.
They're very dim.
They're actually pretty hard to find,
but we know of about 65 of them so far.
And the Milky Way is also surrounded by about 40 globular clusters.
These are these ancient clusters of stars containing...
Millions of stars, and these are thought to be maybe the cores
of old dwarf galaxies or, you know, some kind of primordial object.
These are as old as the universe itself.
And now Vera Rubin has found one of each of these.
So the dwarf galaxy is now called Aquarius IV.
And then the globular cluster is called Rubin GC1.
And it's not enough to just find one of these objects
with the telescope, you need to verify it.
And so astronomers then did follow-on observations
with the Dark Energy Camera and found them.
And so now these are just the first of the dwarf galaxies
and globular clusters.
And it's assumed that there are dozens, maybe double
The number that we know of surrounding the Milky Way.
And so Vera Rubin is just going to keep
on looking for more of these things.
Just imagine where this will get over the next 10 years.
And that story was done by Evan Goff.
This next story comes from Matt Williams.
And this is about China's plans for sending humans to the moon.
And we've been talking about this a lot,
that the Chinese are planning to send a team of human beings
to the surface of the moon by 2030.
And the plan, the architecture of their missions,
is that they have this sort of new
technology that they've been building.
So the Lunar Lander is called Lan Yue
and the crew capsule is called Meng Zhou.
And so the plan is that they're going to put Lanyue
on one of these Long March 10 rockets
and they're going to put Mengzhou on the other one
and then they're going to fly to the moon
and then the two are going to dock.
Lander is going to go down to the surface and then come
back up and then the crew will come back home in the crew capsule.
But the new information
that we got is sort of China's plans to prepare for going to the moon.
They've got to do a lot of their tests in low-earth orbit first.
So they're going to be planning to launch
a variation of the Long March 10 rocket,
one with only two stages and no boosters,
and they're going to launch a orbital version of the Mengzhou capsule.
And they're going to go to their Chinese space station
and test out this hardware and test out the docking and so on.
And then when they finally do go to the moon,
the Long March 10 is going to have three stages and side boosters.
And that's where it gets into that full...
27 metric ton capacity.
And the long-term plans is that the Chinese want to build
their International Lunar Research Station.
And, you know, probably by 2031,
they will begin the development of this longer-term plans for the moon.
And they've got an entirely new, much heavier rocket in the works
called the Long March 9.
So China is continuing on with its plans.
And, you know, I'm pretty sure they'll hit their targets.
So 2030, we should see Chinese astronauts go
to the moon for the first time.
This next story comes
from Carolyn Collins Peterson, and it's a wild one.
You know that nothing, not even light,
can escape the surface of a black hole.
The, essentially, the gravity is so strong
that you would have to exceed the speed of
light to be able to escape a black hole.
And so, is there any way
that a black hole could split into multiple pieces?
A bunch of astronomers were evaluating every possible way
that you could get this kind
of an outcome.
What they found is that under certain conditions,
if the black hole is spinning pretty much close
to the speed of light,
then it could get into a situation where it actually starts to kind
of tear itself apart.
into two pieces and in fact the way
the event horizon kind of stretches out the researchers
called it a trouser-like shape
and so their name is a pair of pants topology the researchers have
investigated and found that the math holds
for primordial black holes black holes with
less mass than a stellar mass black hole
that once you reach the stellar mass black hole range
then these are probably impossible
if these things do exist then as these
black holes are spinning up close to the speed
of light tearing themselves apart
Then they could release a burst of gamma radiation.
This is the kind of thing that could be detected
by our various gamma ray observatories.
And so this could be another line of evidence
for the existence of primordial black holes.
Now, there's one big problem with this,
and that is entropy, that a black hole sort of
has the maximum amount of entropy possible.
And that if you were to somehow split a black hole
into two pieces, then it would actually
decrease in entropy,
and that is something that is sort of forbidden by the laws of physics.
But still, interesting sort of hypothetical.
This next story comes from Evan Goff,
and this is about the seeds of what eventually
became the supermassive black holes
that we see at the heart of every galaxy.
So we know now that there
are giant supermassive black holes in the middle of
Pretty much every single galaxy in the universe,
they're inextricably linked to these host
galaxies, and they're going to have millions,
even billions of times the mass of the sun.
And yet, the only mechanisms that we know
to actually create black holes are supernovae.
Like if a supernova can go off
and then you end up with a black hole of three times the
mass of the sun, how can you end up with a black hole that has...
Hundreds of millions of times the mass of the sun within
the first billion years of the age of the universe.
Black holes are finding one another, merging, and then more black holes
are merging, and then more black holes are merging.
And so researchers have looked at a class
of black holes known as an intermediate mass black hole.
And these have actually, there have not been a lot
of these that have been discovered so far.
There have been some found.
At the hearts of globular clusters, in fact,
the largest cluster in the Milky Way, the
Omega Cluster, you know,
researchers are fairly certain there's about an 8,500 solar mass
black hole wandering around in this globular cluster.
But researchers have been able to find other clusters
in other galaxies that are giving
Giving off the kind of radiation that tells you
that there might be one of these.
Intermediate mass black holes roaming around inside
and so if you find these intermediate mass black holes
And that shows you this sort of growth of these black holes over time.
Researchers used James Webb to image a
Gravitational lens and there's this galaxy that's sort
of smeared out around this gravitational lens called the Firefly
Sparkle galaxy, which I think is the best name
For a galaxy and in that galaxy there appear
to be sources of radiation that are related
to these intermediate mass black holes
and so you actually could be seeing these regions
inside one of these galaxies where the potential seeds
for future supermassive black holes
are forming and the sort of interesting part about
this is how the math nicely lines up
with the predicted math.
for the kinds of black holes that you would get
from the first stars in the universe,
the Population 3 stars.
These are the ones that only have the primordial hydrogen
and helium left over from the Big
Bang.
And so these things go off.
Maybe you end up with a black hole
that is in the tens of solar masses, and then you
could build up to these intermediate mass black holes,
and it looks like the pieces
of the puzzle are starting to come together.
This next story comes from Matt Williams,
and it's about a probably one of the most famous
Paintings in the world, and definitely
the most astronomical painting in the world.
And this is Vincent van Gogh's Starry Night.
And, you know, for the longest time, people looked at this and just
assumed that this was just van Gogh's interpretation of the night sky.
And, you know, he's an artist.
You know, you don't want to put too much stock in what he's showing.
What is his astronomical accuracy?
But researchers have wondered,
was he actually painting a very specific scene in the night sky?
And so they were able to go to the exact spot where he painted
this painting in Saint-Rémy in 1889.
And then they were able to sort of look at the positions
of the stars in the painting and then match that.
two known configurations of stars in the sky
and I realized that this matches a very well-known
cluster called the Hyades Cluster.
You can see it sort of close to the constellation of Taurus.
Looks like this V in the sky
and you know once you know what it looks like you can find it.
And so they were able to then pinpoint what
is the point where you had the Hyades Cluster
close to the horizon. You had Venus in the view and you also had this
Crescent Moon. From what I could tell it was July 22nd in 1889.
Turns out Van Gogh was
painting an actual scene.
And there's actually another ink drawing that he did as sort of
preparation for doing this where he mapped out the stars
and had that same level of precision.
So he was actually painting the sky as he saw it.
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This next story comes from Andy Thomaswick
and it is about when the Earth's protective
Now, you know that back in 2024,
the sun was giving off some pretty powerful flares.
And one of these struck the earth, a solar storm that created auroras
that were visible as far down south as Florida, Mexico.
It was kind of an amazing time.
I was traveling clouds. I wasn't able to see it.
But my wife was back home and she was just like, you got it.
Are you seeing this?
So yeah, the auroras that year were absolutely incredible.
And so researchers know that when
this solar storm was striking the Earth,
it was interacting with Earth's magnetosphere.
And the magnetosphere has a region that is filled
with electrons that are moving at relativistic speeds.
These are known as the Van Allen belts.
And that we know that the Van Allen belts
can change in their size and shape.
As there are various solar storm events that are going on.
But during this event, the Japanese had a satellite called Arase.
And it was measuring the ultra-relativistic electrons.
And they were about 5,000 times higher than
the normal background that this satellite was measuring.
Turns out what was happening was that as the solar storm
was impacting the Earth's magnetosphere,
it was actually changing the shape of the Van Allen belt.
And you had this region that normally none
of these electrons were able to make it through.
It was actually becoming more filled with these energetic electrons.
And then as the storm subsided in this region,
Came back down again.
But you can think about, you know,
if we're going to be sending astronauts
through the Van Allen Belts out to the moon
and we know that there's a powerful solar storm,
then maybe the amount of time that you have to spend
in the Van Allen Belts,
you want to sort of change the trajectory
or maybe even wait for the solar storm to end
before you send your astronauts off to the moon.
And finally, I'd like to give you some very cool images,
and these are both coming from
James Webb and a partner telescope.
So the first image is the Cat's Head Nebula,
and this is in the Carina Nebula,
which is one of the largest star-forming regions in the Milky Way.
It contains the most massive star that we know
of in the Milky Way, Eta Carinae.
And people say it's the cat's head nebula because it looks like this
cat that's sitting and looking away from us with this glowing red eye.
But I don't see that.
I see this sort of strange snake monster with a skull head
and this glowing red eye.
But, you know, I guess, you know.
Beauty's in the eye of the beholder?
I don't see a beholder, though.
Anyway, but this structure is the kind of things
that you see in these star-forming regions
as the powerful stellar winds
from all of the stars in the region
are blasting with their radiation
and kind of wearing away these giant columns of gas and dust.
And because you get this collaboration,
you've got James Webb that is doing the infrared view,
and then you've got the Hubble Space Telescope,
which is giving you...
The visible light and a little bit into the ultraviolet.
And so between the two of them, you're able to get more spectrum
across all the different features that are in this nebula.
And then this second image is also in the Carina Nebula.
And this was released just before Halloween.
And so the European Space Agency was calling this Carina's Ghost.
But again, you've got this region of gas and dust seen by James Webb.
And it's able to peer through the gas and dust
To be able to see the...
This is where all the new star formation is happening.
But then the partner on this image
was the Chandra X-ray Observatory, which is able to
see all of the hot stars.
Those are the purple dots throughout this entire picture.
And of course, new stars are releasing
a tremendous amount of radiation, a lot in the X-rays.
And so this radiation then blasts out,
pushes away this gas and dust, and in the end, clears
out the nebula so that there's sort of nothing else left.
You just have the stars, since you have this star cluster,
and then the stars separate
into space, and now you just have stars.
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