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Welcome into the DMV zone. Let's get you behind
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I'm Marina Morocco. A busy news day here across
the DMV as we continue to follow that breaking
news at the heart of Washington,
D.C. A mass shooting devastating downtown D.C. One person
killed, four others injured after
the shooting happened near Logan Circle. Let's walk you
through how this all unfolded.
About eight this morning, sources telling Fox 5, Dr. Matt Lambert
opened fire inside the Vida Fitness Gym
on 15th Street in Northwest.
A D.C. council member telling Fox 5 he
was targeting his condo building manager.
Shortly after, the suspect exits the gym
and starts firing additional rounds, injuring four other people.
Dr. Matt Lambert then barricades himself inside his condo.
The suspect fired at officers with a fire breaking out
on the seventh floor as well.
After ongoing negotiations, Lambert turned the gun on himself
and died from that self-inflicted gunshot wound.
We have team coverage for you throughout this hour.
A lot to unpack here in the 3 o'clock hour.
Let's get out to our Tom Fitzgerald,
who's been in the Logan Circle neighborhood for these afternoon hours.
How are things now as we continue to see police presence behind you,
Fitz, and so much to unpack now?
Well, to be clear, life is returning
to normal in this Logan Circle neighborhood,
but it is nowhere near as normal after what these folks went through,
witnessed, and in some cases ran for their lives this morning.
As we talked to you at the top of this broadcast,
the suspect, Dr. Matt Lambert,
Dead tonight of a self-inflicted gunshot wound,
11 D.C. schools had to be placed in lockdown today
after this very serious mass shooting
situation unfolded here this morning,
sending both residents in neighboring apartment buildings
and businesses in this area.
Many of them were open,
some others getting ready to open to shelter in place for their lives.
Take a look at this video from earlier today.
This was at the Vida Fitness Center just after 8 a.m.
There were about 50 people inside that gym
working out, getting their day started.
That is when this armed man, Dr. Matt Lambert,
we're told, walked into the fitness center,
began shooting immediately through the door,
targeting that one individual who was killed.
That was not the end of it.
There were three other people now suffering life-threatening injuries.
Police say the gunman began shooting
from outside the gym, making his way inside.
When the suspect got out of the gym, he actually went
and barricaded himself up on a seventh-floor apartment.
He was talking with police negotiators
when suddenly a gunshot rang out inside that apartment.
D.C. Police Interim Police Chief Jeffrey Carroll saying that...
Police were able to arrive on this scene incredibly quickly
and found multiple victims spread out throughout the area.
There is one person that was shot and deceased inside a gym.
We have some other individuals that
were actually across the street working
on a construction site. We have the report of
another individual who was inside the lobby area
or in the alley area. As you can imagine,
we're not only investigating,
but we're also interviewing those witnesses.
I think it's part of living in America nowadays,
like it's not anything new,
really. It's very unfortunate that it's like this.
The police were literally here in 30 seconds
and they come running down the street.
They're telling everybody to get inside,
lock your doors, active shooter. They're running around,
getting people out, clearing the streets, blocking everything off.
Look, this was terrifying for folks out here this morning.
One witness inside the gym reported rushing to that victim
who was fatally wounded, others running for their lives.
There were fire alarms
when fires were set in the building allegedly by this suspect today.
D.C. Councilmember Brooke Pinta, who chairs
the council's justice committee, identifies that fatal victim
as being the manager of the condo building where the shooter lived.
D.C. Mayor Muriel Bowser was also on scene today saying she wanted
to commend the overwhelming amount of police response that was heeded.
Here within seconds, according to many of the eyewitnesses today,
and said she mourned this loss of life.
We're live on 14th Street near P.
Marina, we will send it back in to you.
Fitz, thank you.
Joining us now is former FBI agent Ken Gray
and national security expert Jack Thomas Tumarchio.
Both of you men, thank you so much, gentlemen, for joining us here.
Obviously, a lot going on in these last hours.
We're still getting and trying to parse some of this information,
including about this suspect.
But Ken, to the response.
Let's start with you, an incredible response
from all the jurisdictions across the District
of Columbia and an incredibly quick one as well.
Absolutely. So because of the proximity to the White House,
you had Park Police, U.S. Secret
Service, FBI, National Guard, the MPD, and also Capitol Police.
So a lot of different
agencies there showing up.
MPD on the scene within 30 seconds. Incredible response. But
then again, this was for an active shooter,
so they did not know where the shooter was.
So you need that many agencies showing up
to be able to try to locate and neutralize
the shooter.
Jack, to that point, you have written extensively
about counterterrorism and the efforts to
coordinate so many jurisdictions together,
including a local municipal police department.
What did you see from the response?
Was there anything that could have been done differently
because it was so quick here?
Could this have been prevented?
Well, probably not.
Yeah, a lot.
This individual is a physician.
Apparently, he looks like he had a beef with the landlord.
He had some issues with mold in his apartment,
and I think he was in some kind of active litigation.
So this is one of these one-off times that things just happen.
But, you know, again, the best thing I saw here,
not that there's a best thing,
But the response from the police was so rapid, so...
Perfect. That these guys were right there in 30 seconds.
And they were, you know, as they were coming on scene,
they were they were telling the residents to shelter in place.
Lock your doors. Don't come out. Active shooter.
This is about the best you can get for this kind of response.
But, you know, could we have predicted this? Probably not.
Ken, you've got someone, right,
who walks into a very busy gym at 8 in the morning,
clearly knows the area well,
is able to access something that had codes,
gets in there, targets the person that they were allegedly looking for,
injures several others, goes back into their condo,
and now you're in a condo building with windows with the availability
to continue to injure more people.
What do police do in that instance when they know where he is
to prevent further damage from happening?
Well, they tried to get the residents in the surrounding floors and the
same floor out of the area so that they would be out of harm's way.
There were additionally snipers that were on top of other buildings
trying to gain view of the barricaded subject at that time.
But you want to try to isolate.
The barricaded suspect there,
to be able to bring forces to bear against him if necessary.
They started negotiation
and talked to him for around an hour before he decided to kill himself.
And so, you know, with this in mind,
they were there considering every contingency in this case,
and they had the manpower to do so.
But the best thing to do is just simply,
as they did, get people out of the area.
Starting negotiations, trying to talk him out,
but eventually he decided to take himself out.
And we have pictures of Dr. Lambert, the alleged shooter here,
from his own website, Dr. Matt Lambert there.
Jack, you know, we think of suspects,
you know, people who go on shooting rampages
and obviously profiles are very different in every scenario.
And this one, according to his own self,
he's a double certified emergency doctor, someone who had been living.
If you look at some of the allegations online
and what he considered untenable situation in his condo
that was not remediated with the allegations that there was mold
and other things that were afflicting
and had to some degree this issue with his homeowners association.
Association.
Could have been an injunction.
There could have been situations.
We don't know if potentially in 2020,
you know, afterward, we'll figure out whether
or not people felt threatened by him.
But to that point, about suspects like this,
is there anything to do rather than just the
postmortem, if you will, the after action?
Well, you know, we don't, we're going
to do a postmortem on who Dr. Lambert was.
We don't know what he was facing.
He may have had mental illness.
He may have had other stressors and maybe something just
Made him cross over the line and do something, something violent.
You know, certainly we saw a shooter down in Fort Hood,
Texas several years ago in the Army.
He was also a physician and has actually been sentenced
to death in the next couple months or couple weeks.
So it doesn't really matter what your occupation is.
It doesn't even matter what the issue is.
This thing with his condo may have just been the breaking point,
the last straw in maybe other issues that he was going through
that he just wasn't able to cope and he had a lot of anger.
And, again, I think we'll find that out.
As we do the post-mortem on who Dr. Lambert
was and what kind of life he was living.
What do those negotiations look like, Ken,
in those moments that are so critical for police?
To your point, keep the person talking,
not continuing to commit acts of violence.
What does those two hours following the shooting look like
between negotiators and someone who's barricaded themselves
and who seems to have really reached the edge,
so to speak, is on the precipice of killing themselves?
Sure. The negotiator is trying to build rapport with the person,
find some way in order to make them, convince them
that they have something to live for, that they are trying to find
a better solution than to continue on in their barricaded situation.
Thank you
very much.
He shot five people, killing one,
critically wounding another, injuring another three.
He was at his wit's end, he barricaded in,
and this was probably going to end up this
way.
A negotiation tried to talk him out,
and they do so by trying to just find some way to convince
the person to continue talking to him and to work out a solution,
but no solution was
It was possible in this case.
Jack, bigger picture here as we go,
and we'll give you the final word here.
Clearly, we are at a point here where for the past decades we
have seen mass shootings almost become the norm to some degree.
We've not seen something to this degree in some time in Washington,
D.C., and yet still it is so fresh in so many communities.
What's the big picture here?
How do we get to a point where it's not normal?
Well, it's never going to be normal.
Certainly, these are acts of violence,
and they are still random acts of violence, I would say.
All right.
You know, there's certainly discussions about gun control,
and when you have people with
automatic weapons, the question is,
do people need to have automatic weapons, or do you
need to just put a ban on that?
And again, that's a policy decision for the Congress
and for the administration.
I don't see an immediate change in that.
Gun lobby's pretty heavy, but certainly
when you have these kind of things, and you have
have school shootings when, you know, children are just massacred by
It makes one think that there needs to be something to change
this normal because it's not normal and we shouldn't,
frankly, we shouldn't put up with this in our society.
And we do need to make some changes in my opinion.
Jack, Ken, we appreciate speaking with both of you and your insight
as the situation continues to unfold and the investigation continues.
Stay with us here on the DMV Zone. We'll be right back.
Major shakeup at one of the world's most powerful technology companies,
NVIDIA CEO and co-founder Jensen Huang stepping down amid
a growing scandal involving alleged
affairs, including one with a woman
U.S. intelligence officials suspect of having
ties to Chinese espionage.
His departure comes as the company faces mounting scrutiny over
national security concerns and its business dealings with China.
NVIDIA's chief financial
officer, Colette Kress, will serve as interim CEO
as the company searches for a permanent
Joining us now is business and technology reporter
for The Wall Street Journal.
For The Washington Post, Miriam
Waldvogel, thank you for joining us here.
And this is not just about a scandal of a CEO having two
extramarital affairs, but also national security concerns.
Right. That's correct. I mean, NVIDIA is the most important company,
maybe not just in AI, but in the U.S. economy at the moment.
It is a stock market juggernaut whose investments
and chips are underpinning the AI boom that is connected to the market.
It's connected to investment counts and has sort of become part
of the Trump administration's bet on the next stage of economy.
And Jensen is as synonymous with NVIDIA.
As Elon Musk with Tesla or Steve Jobs with Apple,
he really is NVIDIA and NVIDIA is him.
So it's hard to underscore how stunning this all is.
And whether or not he stepped down or he was ousted,
I mean, I think that's secondary at this point
when you've got a politically precarious situation where
the question being how much did the Trump administration know?
Were they privy to the information that there was the possibility
that Wang was having an affair with a Chinese spy?
And what the president has said so far,
where do things stand right now in that realm?
I mean, there are a lot of unanswered questions there,
and there's certainly interest on Capitol Hill
in scrutinizing what the administration knew.
My colleagues at The Post have reported that Trump was briefed
on the issue by Secretary of State Marco Rubio in May shortly before
Huang boarded Air Force One to join Trump on a trip to China.
But even in the press conference on Monday, Trump was still saying.
Saying that he was, you know,
not aware of the alleged affair or the issue with the Chinese assets.
So there are still a lot of remaining questions.
But based on the post-reporting, it seems
that at some point Trump was briefed on this several months ago.
So where does this head now?
Because we talk about the potential for congressional
investigations here.
And for Wang, I mean, does this cross into criminal territory?
What's the situation here?
Because also this alleged spy remains kind of in the MIA,
if you will. Singapore was the last place where she was seen,
appears based on Washington Post
reporting that Singapore had asked
the U.S. for some help of validating and getting some
assistance as to who this person was. What's all that about?
I mean, it is, again, sort of hard to know the exact details of,
you know, whether, you know, how helpful
or unhelpful the U.S. government was in Singapore's investigation.
I would say just that the level of detail that Singapore released
this morning on the situation was unusual.
It's not usual for them to sort of highlight the lack
of help from the U.S. in their way, in that way.
I mean...
It's sort of hard to know on the criminal side where things might go.
I think the really big question, though,
is just who is going to lead this company next.
I mean, Colette Kress is the CFO.
She's been at NVIDIA for more than a decade.
But Jensen Huang is really this titanic figure in AI
and a tough guy to replace.
Really. And if you look at just their organizational chart,
really run like some very different to other companies
that we're used to, where he had at least 60 direct reports.
To him, as opposed to a more traditional organizational chart.
But nonetheless, we're seeing Colette Kress being put
in that position, at least for now.
We'll see what comes next.
Miriam Waldvogel with The Washington Post.
We appreciate your reporting and check out more information there.
A popular supplement marketed
as a natural hangover remedy could come with an unexpected risk.
Unintended pregnancy.
Activated charcoal often promoted as a way
to prevent hangovers and detox the body.
But experts warn it could interfere
with the absorption of medications, including...
Birth control pills. We've got chief medical officer
for HealthTrack, Dr. Steve Goldberg,
to break this all down. And charcoal pill
is something you can get over the counter
at pretty much any pharmacy. You're right, Marina.
This is a doozy of a topic. So let's
break it down. So the reality is that alcohol
is not absorbed by charcoal. So it's really not a good
approach to hangover treatment if you're consuming alcohol.
It just doesn't work.
Alcohol dissolves in water.
It doesn't get sucked into the charcoal pores. And so it's
not really helpful. So that's a first point.
Where charcoal is used, and I've used it in
the emergency room, is for folks that take certain type
of pills like acetaminophen, Tylenol.
Or, for example, ibuprofen in high doses.
So it can be very helpful there.
Now, to the other question,
does taking charcoal impact your ovulation cycle?
And there's mixed data, but a small recent study says no.
They gave a small number of people five grams of this,
like over 20 pills of charcoal, and measured a bunch of hormones.
Thank you.
And none of them ovulated.
So there's not clear evidence that taking charcoal causes you
to ovulate and put you at risk for pregnancy.
OK, so how did this even come about?
Where was this comparison put together?
Frankly, I read about it in New York Post and commentary on Reddit.
So like good investigation we do for Fox 5, we did a lot of research.
We checked open evidence
and that the fact that charcoal might cause you to get pregnant.
We pushed on it a bit and we didn't find that.
So in summary.
Charcoal is not a good treatment for alcohol intoxication
and if you're taking charcoal it
doesn't increase your risk of getting pregnant.
Okay well there you go. Pretty much good for
just what you talked about if you want to help
with absorption of other stuff. Dr. Goldberg
thanks for breaking that down. We appreciate it.
Keep up Marina. We'll be right back.
It continues as we head into another day that started with some rain,
but the sun finally came back out.
We'll give you a live look right now at Reston Station.
Things are looking there good in Northern Virginia.
Let's check in with our Jennifer Delgado.
But it's always subject to change, Jen.
That's right.
You know, we're playing peek-a-boo right now with the sunshine.
In fact, there is some rain out there,
and there were a few thunderstorms,
but they're all well to the north of us.
In fact, we'll get to that severe weather.
But we do have a ground stop right now out at IAD until 4:15,
and that is weather-related.
We look outside.
Out at DCA and DCA pretty quiet right now. Of course, cloudy skies,
but we don't have any rain being reported out of Reagan.
But there are some showers moving into the west of us.
Our temperatures right now are in the 60s. So we look at the numbers
and we're in the 50s already to the north and west.
We've got a series of fronts that are coming through
and it's going to bring a change to the weather pattern for tomorrow.
High temperatures are only going to be in the lower 50s
and it's going to feel like the 40s,
even 30s at times as we go through the weekend. So
Let's look at the radar. We are really lucky
that we dodged that severe weather. You look
to the north, we do have a tornado watch box
in effect for parts of New Jersey as well
as into New York. Yes, I know the Commanders
are playing there and they do have about a
50% chance of rainfall, but there's low pressure.
We still have to get that out of here before
we go completely dry. Now,
what we are going to be looking at is potentially the first
snow flurries of the season setting up
for parts of the Alleghenies. Now, as we look
Look at radar right now. The rainfall showing up from 66 down towards.
We have a few spots right now moving through Loudoun County
where we have IAD, but nothing severe, just some light showers,
a series of fronts that are going to be sliding through.
We have one at the moment,
one over towards the east and another one knocking on our door.
So it's going to continue to reinforce that cold air
as we go through tonight all the way through the upcoming weekend.
So here's your planner ahead for tonight.
We keep the chances of some showers around,
I would say up until about five o'clock.
Shifting from west to east and then after that we are going
to cloud up. So will we see any snowfall? No, we're not. We're going
to be looking at mainly lots of clouds around and wind chill values is
Going back down into the 30s, as we look ahead for us,
this is Thursday, 3 o'clock, there's the rain.
Notice a lot of that moisture not making it over the mountains,
but it certainly will bring some light stuff.
The first of the season across parts of West Virginia, the Alleghenies,
and then, of course, across parts of New York as well as into Vermont.
But as we go into your Friday,
maybe could we see a few snow flurries passing.
That's 7:30 at night.
Our best chance will be Friday going into your Saturday.
And then after that, we'll be left with the clouds,
but dry conditions as we go.
We go into your weekend.
So this is Saturday at 4.30.
Expect cloudy skies. You're going to have to break out the real coat.
So here's your setup for the weekend with those winds coming
in from the northwest anywhere from about 15 to 20, 25 miles per hour.
It's going to make it feel cooler than the actual temperature.
So we look at our wind chill values for tonight.
It's not going to be a problem. Our overnight low will be 44 degrees,
but the kids at the bus stop are going to be in for a shock
because it is going to be a lot cooler outside.
And then we look ahead for tomorrow afternoon.
There's your high 51 degrees, lots of clouds around. And then if you
We're going to be watching the game for tonight.
As I said, there is a chance we will see a few showers out there,
but I don't think it's going to interrupt play.
But we look at these temperatures.
This is what we expect when we're talking about
the beginning of December.
So this is way too soon to have temperatures this cool.
Here's your forecast for the Commanders and the Giants tonight.
Of course, we're going to be airing that on Fox 5, 8, 15, kickoff.
And as we go, 9.30, 11 o'clock, rain chances.
We'll continue, but again,
we're looking at about a 50% to a 60% to 70% chance of rainfall,
and then your seven-day forecast.
51 for a high for your Friday, 53 on Saturday,
and then 54 degrees for a high on Sunday.
We keep these 50s around.
I know you don't like the 50s.
I'm going to stop talking about it, Marina.
But as we look ahead to the end of next week,
we'll get some 60s returning.
Okay, that's some good news, Jen.
Thank you so much.
We'll take a quick break, and we'll be right back
with the latest on that breaking news.
Hey.
And we continue to follow that breaking news out of Logan Circle.
One person dead, four others injured after
a mass shooting inside of a gym this morning.
In just the past few minutes, we have learned that D.C. police will
be providing an update on the investigation in about 15 minutes.
As soon as that happens, we'll, of course,
bring that live to you right here on Fox 5.
In the meantime, several people we know ran to safety
as those bullets rang out, gunshots ringing out.
Many reunited with their loved ones now.
Fox 5's Tisha Lewis joining us live
from Northwest with more at this hour.
Tisha?
Marina.
We're here at the reunification center here at 1625 P Street
in Northwest where the folks who were impacted by all
of this are being reunited with their loved ones
and also receiving some much needed help.
You can take a look behind me.
You see that there are National Guard here.
There are people that are walking up,
residents coming here to the Steed Park Rec Center.
Some witnesses still in shock by this morning's shooting.
Again, this is where they are reconnecting with each other
and also with friends and family and their loved ones.
and receiving some much-needed support and help.
You don't think that kind of stuff happens,
especially in that sort of resident.
So it's very surreal, very sombering, and just, you know,
my heart goes out to everyone that was hurt today.
This happens at a gym. Isn't that crazy? Like, it's just sad.
To answer your question, this is just sad,
but there's a reason why we have all these
troops on the streets to be safe for a reason.
This center was opened really as a resource
to residents in the neighborhood, especially
those residents who were displaced from their building this morning,
many of whom were evacuated
out first thing this morning.
You know, there are some folks inside still in their pajamas.
Yeah, Tisha, to that point on the council member,
this is a busy area, right?
You've got the gym, you've got the condo building above
that we saw was tightly packed with many units.
So many people right now, can they return back
to their homes at this hour?
Yeah, you know, they were being escorted
by law enforcement, Marina, able to get some
items and then returning here to the reunification center.
But I want to point out what we're told
is that there are 74 families that are displaced
from their units right now. 42 of those families,
42 people, I should say,
according to Council Member Pinto telling us that 42 people have
registered right here at the center.
In terms of the resources that we are told they are receiving,
We're told they're receiving some food, shelter.
Obviously, some heat and then
also the American Red Cross is on site here.
And I just want to point out also,
if you take a look behind me through the tree there,
you can see some National Guard members are here as well.
And we are as close as we can possibly get
to the Steed Rec Center here in Northwest.
This is the reunification center for the people
who lived in that particular building.
We spoke with several residents off-camera,
Marina, and I just want to share that obviously
Honestly and understandably, so many of them are shocked.
So many of them are traumatized by this morning's circumstances.
One resident in particular telling us
that he is familiar with the suspect.
He was familiar with the reported dispute,
but he said to us that he had no idea and
never imagined that it would rise to this level.
Marina.
I think for so many people that certainly rings true
and we'll continue to find out
more about the motive and what happened that led to this.
Unfortunate situation this morning.
Tisha Lewis for us in northwest D.C.
Joining us now is former U.S. Navy officer
and active shooter prevention safety expert Kieran Carroll
and Vice President of Intelligence of Doyle Security Greg Sanfilippo.
Thank you both for joining us.
Kieran, we'll start with you.
This was to some degree an active shooter.
It did appear to be targeted.
And then there were other people
who unfortunately were also targeted in this shooting.
By all accounts, 30 seconds before
law enforcement arrived on the scene,
Three minutes before.
That fatal victim was tended to, unfortunately, too late.
But nonetheless, the response here, what more,
if anything, could have really been done?
Because it seemed as though it was an incredibly expeditious response.
Yeah, great to be with you this afternoon, Marina.
I do think that if there's any silver lining here in this incident,
it's the fact that this happened in downtown Washington, D.C.,
where there are literally dozens of law enforcement agencies
that have both the jurisdiction
and resources to respond quickly and appropriately.
But to your point, very, very fast police response.
Obviously, it was a chaotic and quickly evolving situation.
So I'm sure law enforcement and first responders did
the best with what they could
with what information they had at the time.
Greg, this is a situation that, at least from what we know so far,
seems to be some sort of dispute, targeted,
if you will, between people who knew each other.
And there didn't seem to be any sort of injunction up against this
suspect that would have prevented him from coming into close contact
with that victim or any of the people who lived in that building.
And yet we heard from Tisha,
who was able to speak to some of those residents who were aware
of the disputes that were happening with the HOA and with this tenant.
They can't believe it got to this point, and yet it did.
So, Drew and Marina, a lot of times on this pathway
to violence where we see active shooters that there
are signs along the way, it's an escalation.
It's not just someone that snapped.
So this investigation is going to look
at the physical backtracking of these shooters,
where he went, what he did, how he accessed this weapon.
It's also going to backtrack and do investigation on the digital signs,
something that perhaps was missed that could have been alerted.
To authorities to be proactive instead of reactive,
great reaction here, but again,
we want to make this as proactive an effort as possible in the future.
Karen, when we talk about active shooter situations,
and we've talked to at length
with other law enforcement experts,
people who deal in this and who advise on how to
better protocols, if you will.
Not to call this normal,
but it is something that we repeatedly talk about, unfortunately,
not just here in D.C., but across the country.
And really what we should know as just everyday citizens,
if we ever find ourselves in what seems
to be something unthinkable that won't happen to you,
but so often does happen to the average person,
what do you do in that situation?
So many people in the moment freeze.
We heard from people who had headphones on.
They thought it was a machine that had exploded.
No one really places gunshots or an active shooter next to them.
Yeah, I mean, I think that there's a number of different frameworks
and protocols that a variety of organizations are out there,
you know, talking to regular people about.
I always try to keep it simple.
I think that if you're in a position to run
and put as much distance between yourself and the assailant as possible,
you're going to go ahead and do that.
If you're forced to hide, you know, go ahead and do that.
And then obviously if you're forced to,
if you are in a situation where you are able to help and respond with
Um, action or force against the active assailant,
um, and you are trained and able to do that,
uh, that is the time for you to step up.
And unfortunately.
Even recently, just within the last few weeks,
we saw this happen in Silver Arrow Elementary School
where a father was able to take down
an active shooter during the event,
which is a pretty incredibly heroic thing to do.
Yeah, and listen, that seemed to have been even more time, right?
The minutes where he witnessed that shooter jumping over the fence,
going into the school to process what to do.
But Greg, if you're caught in that moment, you worked in New York
and you know how packed a place can be.
You're not really sure of what's happening around you.
These soft targets, they're concerning.
Very concerning,
and it's an effort and a chance for us to take security
from just guards and gates
and layer that proactive element onto it
with protective security, protective intelligence,
and trying to come up with these signs along the way.
This is a focus that needs to be...
There needs to be a big emphasis on,
and we're seeing that you saw a couple of active shooting
incidents that were thwarted
because someone alerted law enforcement prior to when they
started seeing those signs of someone on that pathway online.
So see something, say something.
It's not just about a suspicious package.
It's about suspicious activity.
Kieran, I think...
For so long, people have been, and I think still to some degree,
shell-shocked when something like
this happens, whether or not you were there.
It always affects someone differently.
Something's triggered in you that can take you, you know,
if you go to the gym repeatedly, then obviously this is something
that you're going to probably and hopefully be more aware of,
of your surroundings and what's happening.
It does seem, and we talk about Silver Rail Elementary
in Oregon, where there is also
more of a concerted effort now where we,
as people in the collective, and not in every
situation, right, but are more ready to fight versus
the hide version of this or the run.
And in some cases, there is no other option.
Yeah, I mean, obviously, if you're licensed and congressional
to carry a firearm and you're willing to put yourself out there
in those scenarios, like I said before, this is your time to step up.
And, you know, fortunately, we were able to see that with the father.
It's over a few weeks back here in D.C.
Right. There's there's many, many different folks are licensed
to carry from law enforcement agencies with the highest concentration
of federal law enforcement of anywhere in the nation.
Obviously, if someone is off duty
and they're in a position to step in and do something,
that would have been the time as well.
But I think that all things said, it was a very quick
and effective law enforcement response.
I'm sure they helped limit further loss of life and bloodshed,
and they probably did all the right things
that they're supposed to do when it comes to
isolating the active shooter
and making sure that the wounded are cared for adequately.
And we are so thankful for that.
We appreciate both you gentlemen coming on.
Greg and Kieran, thank you again.
My pleasure.
Thursday night football.
Commanders are still searching for that third win
this season as they head north to take on the Giants.
Tonight's game could go a long way
in deciding what is next for the franchise.
We've got managing editor for Sports Illustrated, Peter Dewey.
And somehow, someway, despite the record, Peter,
there's a possibility that if they win tonight,
that they could continue on with the season
that sees them in the postseason.
So how important is tonight?
Yeah. This game is absolutely massive for Washington.
I think the biggest thing to
look at is just if they win this game,
they have the tiebreaker over the Giants. And when you look
at the NFL and in these division races where
really Washington's only chance to make the
playoffs is going to be winning the division.
If you have the tiebreaker, it gives you a little
bit of a buffer instead of having to have
a better record than the Giants by one game,
they could finish with the same record
and the Commanders would end up winning the division. So
obviously that makes this a huge game after they tied
the first time around, you get this win,
And you put yourself in a position where now all of a sudden,
you're just two games back with still half
the season to play, and anything can
happen at that point, especially
with the Giants having a backup quarterback.
So you could make the argument
this is the biggest game they've had all year to this
point.
Yeah, I think do or die at this point.
It is a Thursday night game.
They come off a Sunday night game,
so a little bit of a short week here.
But nonetheless, they've got a healthy Jaden Daniels.
What does the rest of the squad look like?
Yeah, they look pretty healthy coming into this game.
No, no major injuries.
Obviously there's, there's Terry McLaurin's out
for the year and they have some other
guys that aren't going to be back this year.
Jaquori Crosby remains on injured reserve still,
but they're coming into this game fairly healthy.
One thing that to note, they didn't have Stephon Diggs
the first time they played the Giants.
He's expected to play in this game.
So that should give their receiver room a pretty big boost.
And you look at the first time they played
Jaden Daniels only threw for 199 yards,
but he ran for over a hundred yards and two touchdowns.
He's actually ran for over 60 yards multiple times against
the Giants in his career.
So I think with Diggs on the outside,
it gives them a little bit more...
A little bit more options on the offensive end to really go to,
and they don't have to rely on Jaden as much
to make things happen with his legs.
Okay, that's good.
A must-win game here.
We're talking about the potential for rain up in New Jersey.
And then you've got the battle of the quarterbacks here
with J.J. McCarthy up against Jaden Daniels in a rematch,
although he didn't play the last game.
But this is going to be something
that they're going to see head-to-head here.
What are we expecting from both offenses?
And we can start with the Giants here.
Yeah, I think from the Giants offense, we've seen J.J. McCarthy.
He's been a little up and down since taking
the starting job from Jameis Winston.
You look in the last game that these two teams played,
the Giants targeted Malik Nabers a ton.
They threw him the ball 20 times.
He caught 11 passes for 121 yards.
I'd assume that even with Winston not starting this game,
that McCarthy is going to follow a similar pattern.
And the Giants also have Cam Skendall back in this game.
He missed Sunday's game against the Eagles with a hamstring injury.
He's expected to play.
I guess that he's going to handle the majority
of the carries out of the workload.
Devin Singletary did not look great last week against Philly
at 21 carries for just 31 yards. So I would
expect those two guys to be the guys,
the giants lean on, but McCarthy's been known in his NFL
career to, to turn the ball over a few times.
So if you're Washington I think that's where you can
really swing this game on the defensive side.
And I think for the commanders, it's going to be the
Jaden Daniels show the rest of the year,
no Terry McLaurin, no Jameon Duncan, like they're
down significant pieces on the offense,
but the way that they're going to make the playoffs.
is if Jayden can be the guy that he was a couple years ago
when they went to the NFC Championship game.
He's got to be one of the five best quarterbacks in football.
So I wouldn't be surprised
if we see him have another big day against the Giants.
And we saw that in the first half of the Rams,
where it seemed as though he was really showing out.
And then they go into the locker room, they come back,
and the Rams completely just torched the offense there for Washington.
They did not allow Jaden Daniels to be Jaden Daniels.
That's going
to be so important, but he's going to be missing his center.
Yeah, that's obviously a major impact.
And the Rams defensive front
is a little bit more formidable than the Giants.
The Giants have some big names, Kayvon Thibodeau,
Abdul Carter, that they can get pressure.
But if you actually look at it this year,
the Giants have the lowest pressure rate in the NFL.
They're getting a pressure on the quarterback
on the fewest amount of dropbacks in the league.
So that's part of the reason why Jayden was able
to run for over 100 yards the last time they played.
He was kind of able to get outside
and make things happen with his legs.
So if the commanders can hold up and protect him,
him for long enough, I think they're
going to be in a good spot in this game.
Just the unfortunate thing is with all
the injuries they have, it really limits.
just how much they can get away with in terms
of like oh we can go three and out here we can go
three and out here like they got to get points
as often as they can like you said that Rams game
you're not going to win many games scoring just 13 points
so uh this is going to have to be a
matchup where they're going to have to capitalize
if they get favorable field position and um this
Giants team like they have won some weird games
this year with a backup quarterback so there's
there's obviously going to be some interesting circumstances
with the rain uh but you got to
I think if you're Washington, Jayden Daniels is the best player
player on the field. And if he is that tonight,
I think they're going to win. And with all that
said, though, there is the one red flag
and elephant in the room that we must talk about,
which is the clock, because it's fourth down.
You got no timeouts left and you have no idea
how many seconds you got ticking here.
This has burned them before up against the Giants,
and it has continued to be an issue for this Commanders team.
Yeah, it's definitely been a major issue.
Dan Quinn's addressed it several times.
It's kind of becoming an unfortunate refrain
on his Monday morning press conferences
that we have to talk about clock management.
And I think, you know, all the demons
are going to be out against this Giants team
after what happened in week five.
But I think this is a spot, again,
for them to kind of show that they're better than that,
that they're in a position where that stuff is behind them.
And, again, that comes down to Jayden as well.
They can say until they're blue in the face it's
a coaching thing, it's a coaching thing,
but he's also got to know the clock situations,
too, and he's got to command this offense.
That's why he's one of the best quarterbacks in football
when he's healthy.
And I think, you know, if they can avoid some
of those mistakes down the stretch of this season,
like, it's right there in front of them in this division.
There's nobody in the NFC East that is significantly
better than them where they couldn't get back in the race.
Let's see if they can make it happen on the road tonight.
Peter, always good to talk to you.
Thank you for that.
We appreciate it.
Of course, you can catch that Thursday night football.
Game right here on Fox 5.
We've got a pregame show coverage starting at 7 p.m.
and kickoff at 8.15 on Fox 5.
Stay with us. We'll be right back.
We are expecting an update from D.C. police on that mass shooting
from earlier today in the Logan Circle neighborhood.
As you see there, they've prepared the podium,
and as soon as we get word that the press conference starts,
we, of course, bring that to you live right here on Fox 5.
In the meantime, you've probably noticed
that your e-mail may not be working.
Microsoft products, including Outlook e-mail services and Copilot,
down for tens of thousands of users.
The outage has started about noon today.
Joining us now is founder and CEO of Tech, a leader of FitTech.
Consultants Ian Marlowe, Ian, good to talk to you.
I mean, it's one of those things where you don't realize
how many people rely on the same thing until it's down
and then you wonder, was it hacked?
What happened?
Yes, and the outage is widespread
and it's covered massive geographies,
not just in the US, but in many areas across.
And it's very haphazard to see who's affected
versus who's not affected.
Okay, so I can tell you here, anecdotally,
we're all without Microsoft Teams and 365,
so it's one of those things when you're running
an operation like this, so many people rely
on email.
The trickle-down effect for something like this is huge.
It's very significant. And it's actually not just 365, SharePoint,
Teams, Copilot, all of these various things are being affected.
You know, and this is where we start
to see communications backup plans very much be pushed into effect.
People, you know, I have clients all over the country.
They are now, you know, utilizing Zoom at the moment.
They're utilizing FaceTime on, you know, multi-user meetings.
They're sending text messages.
They're changing how they're doing, how they're working.
Because this is so widespread in the application.
We currently don't have an update from Microsoft
exactly when this is going to be resolved.
Their website is actually showing the next update
should be in about half an hour to 45 minutes.
So the entire community is actively watching very closely.
Yeah, one of those things where you realize
how much we rely on technology.
We gotta get back to sending our owls there
with our communication.
Ian, thank you for the breakdown.
We appreciate the latest there.
We'll be right back.
All right, guys, I know we're following
that breaking news, so I'll let you get to it.
All right, the news at four starts right now.
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