DoctorOz: Lisa Van Allen on Testifying Against R. Kelly | Oz True Crime

We're back unraveling the allegations against R&B superstar R. Kelly, who is now reportedly under criminal investigation after new explosive accusations of sexual abuse have surfaced. But some women have been speaking out against him for years. Lisa Van Allen knows R&B singer R. Kelly's allegedly sordid side far too well. She was just 17 when she says the singer seduced her, and they began an abusive nine-year relationship, one in which she witnessed many things she claims confirms the worst accusations against him. She was also the first woman to openly confront R. Kelly, taking the stand against him in 2008 when he faced 14 counts of child pornography. He would be acquitted of all charges in that trial, but could now be facing new ones. And Lisa Van Allen remains his most outspoken critic and advocate for his alleged victims. Lisa Van Allen joins me now. Remember, she risked charges against herself when she came forward about being in a sex tape that involved minors and was granted immunity for her testimony. I know this is hard to do, and I appreciate you taking the time to share a painful part of your life. What made you decide to testify in court against R. Kelly? Well, there were multiple things, but one of them was they actually threatened my life. Thank you. His team said they should have murked me from the beginning. Murking means to kill you. Thank you. It was tough. It was really tough when I never knew that they were thinking about killing me. How difficult was the trial for you, having to go into court, be asked these questions, be judged? It was very difficult because I was alone, you know. He had already threatened my life. I didn't have anyone else backing me. No one else was coming out. It was tough. It's tough, you know, when you think about it. Take your time. Just thinking about everything, you know. I wanted to speak out for the young girl on the tape. They know it was him. They said that one of the reasons that they didn't prosecute him was because the victim said it wasn't her and her father said it wasn't her. But I would like to put out there that the prosecutor told me when her father watched the tape, he cried when he said it wasn't her. If it's not your daughter, what were you crying about? Let's go back to the beginning. I want to understand how you met him and how your relationship with R. Kelly evolved. When did you first... I met him at a video shoot in Atlanta, Georgia. It was his home alone video shoot. So the relationship starts. You became intimate relatively quickly. Yes. And you were happy? In the beginning, it wasn't really bad. You know, first, it was, like, when I moved up there, the first time we had a threesome, he told me he had never had one. So I felt like, as his girlfriend, that it was something that... I would do for him because he is a star and I'm sure women come on to him all the time. You know, I'm 17, so I didn't know that you can say no and that can be okay. And if he loves you, he'll be okay with that. But over time, how did you find the relationship changed? Over time, I got older and wiser because it really didn't change. I mean, the threesomes became more frequent once it happened with the girl that was 14. In the beginning, when I was 17, he told me she was 16. The reason for that, I believe, is because he thought that, you know, if she was my age, I would be okay with it. But once I found out through her that she was 14, it never happened again. I was not okay with that. You know, that made me sick to my stomach to know that I was 17 when she was 14. Even though I still was a minor, it was just, it wasn't okay with me. Did you feel that he was manipulating you? Yes, I feel like every woman or girl that he's with, he manipulates them. He makes sure he does things the way he needs them to get done to get the outcome he wants. So after going through this for a while... You decided to end the relationship. Yeah. How many years into knowing him did you end it, and why did you end it? Well, I lived with him for three years. So at 21, that's when I decided to leave. I never told him that I was leaving. I told him I wanted to go visit my family. I made up some little urgent situation that I needed to leave for, and I just didn't go back. Up next, the most shocking allegation to come out about R. Kelly. Lisa reveals what she says he told her. Stay with us. We're back with Lisa Van Allen, the first woman to testify against R. Kelly for sexual abuse allegations. So when you spoke out against him in this Lifetime series you interviewed, what kind of backlash did you experience and what happened to R. Kelly? How difficult has it been for you since telling your story? I've actually had a lot of support. On my social media accounts and things like that, I've had a lot of support. There are some diehard fans. There are some people that just choose not to believe what I feel like is just in your face. I mean, it's public records. You can go to Cook County Courthouse and pull up all these cases that he paid girls off. I don't understand why you would pay anyone off if it's not true. So, Nancy, you live in this world. If there was a new trial today, would it turn out differently? I think it absolutely would and will turn out differently because I believe, not just from my heart, but as a prosecutor, that either Fulton or Cook County, Chicago or Atlanta are going to find that girl that fits in the statute of limitations so legally they can bring this case. Lisa, would you testify again? It's crazy because when I think about that, they had me on the stand for... Three hours, and I was six months pregnant with my son. And they didn't ask me one question about Rob. And they called me a streetwalker. Like, they tried to ask me. Like, I don't know if I'd want to relive that. Like, my goal right now is to raise awareness. And I want to help. I want to help all of these victims. Like, it's tough. And, um... What's most shocking about this case is that people very close to R. Kelly are coming forward. Kerry Kelly has claimed that both he and his brother were victims of sexual abuse at the hands of their sister, their older sister. I believe him because Robert told me that he was abused by his sister, Teresa. He did. R. Kelly told you that? He told me that. He did. Did he share any more details about that? He told me that she would have him... Penetrate her with a pencil. That's what he told me. So we've been unable to find his older sister. People who would have been there at the time. Right. So I'm trying to put the pieces of this... Very complicated puzzle together. While we're all trying to also understand why there hasn't been something done for all these years. So I appreciate you coming forward. I know it's hard. And Godspeed in all the things you're trying to do. All right, thank you. Thanks, Lisa. Thank you for watching. Don't forget to subscribe and turn on notifications so you never miss out on new videos to live the good life.