'Southern Charm' recap: Austen caught hiding dates from Salley — Olivia Flowers unpacks the drama with VRT

I know that you went on dates with her, but you did the whole thing for me. That is true though. I'm Danny Murphy, and I am so excited, not only that Southern Charm is back, but that we have Olivia Flowers here to recap it with me. Olivia, you know I love you. Hi. Hi. I love you, too. I am so excited, because we were like, okay, wait. We love Olivia. We love Southern Charm. Yeah, talk me through how... Because we were kind of saying, we were like, oh my God, it'd be so much fun to do these recaps with people who, like, have first-hand experience of, A, being on these shows. Be like know Charleston inside and out, you know, some of the players of it, you have these things and who we just love to gab with. And we're like, how's, you're so busy. We're like, what's the way we can force her to basically talk to us almost every week. I was so, I was literally so flattered. I was like, wait, I was like. I mean there's other options I feel like that would have been a little bit but I was like you know what enough time's gone by I'm happy to watch it if there's anyone I'm going to like gab about it with it is you. Oh thank you I know okay because that's what I was asking I was like because you were saying you watched the episode of course like everybody else last night this morning Have you watched the show since you left, or not really? I have not. Seriously, that was the first time I had just enough wine. I was like, enough time's been in between where I think I can watch it back and enjoy it. And I did. I thought it looked good. Did it feel weird, good, or a mix watching it back? I think a mix. I can't help it. I have a little FOMO, but it's also, I liked getting to know the new people, and also getting to watch it knowing how they're feeling as the newcomers, because that was me. I can definitely... I see it through a different lens. You know what I mean? Yeah, no, exactly. I know because there are a few newbies on the scene, which seem very fun. Is there anyone that you're excited about the most? I think Allie. She's cool. She's such a cool girl. She's so pretty, too. Like, cool girl, very pretty. Allie Lubert, you know, she's in Charleston now. Yes. She, when I was there last, she introduced me to her. So I got to talk to her, and she was telling me, she's like, yeah, I'm... the new girl on there and um she's really cool okay wait when you met her was she in the like talking-ish stage with Austin because that was kind of the big moment of this episode where she was kind of we found out that this was someone Austin was talking to yeah and I think they have different definitions of what happened towards the end of it yeah that's what it seemed like no this is this was like a she had maybe just found out she was getting the show so this was like a little a little while ago. But yeah, no, don't you feel like watching it? I feel like I'm watching another season of The Bachelor. This is like The Bachelor hasn't changed. That's, you know, I even heard someone say, Can I talk to you for a second? Yeah, wait, honestly, because Vanessa's party really did feel like it almost was like at like a bachelor situation because everybody was kind of flirting with everyone. Benita wanted to steal Whitner. He wanted to take Allie. Sally wanted to take Austin. Allie wanted to talk to Shep to clarify everything. See, I was like... But I think that's what's going to make it like a juicy season because there's all these different love, potential love dynamics, you know? It's not just like the one or two relationships everyone's wondering about. Like there's a lot of different directions it could go. Because that's honestly the thing right now. I really don't know how they all... will shape out. Is there one couple in particular that you like ship the most? I think Austin and Sally should give it a go. Thank you. I, yes. I think that's like a majority thought process. I think everybody thinks of Austin. Okay. And also, but let me clarify, because Austin, I remember when we caught up with him and Sally, he was like, I love Sally, but I know how I am in relationships. So I don't know if I want to do that to Sally. I'm proud of that awareness. Yeah, well done. But I feel like Sally kind of knows what he is and wants to do it. That's what I was going to say. I feel like they've already kind of dabbled in the romantic scene a little bit, and they know what they're getting with the other person. So that's why I'm like, I don't think. And I think they have a friendship that they can bounce back to if it does go up in flames. I don't know. I just think they're... They're they've done both. I know because I'm like, she makes like AI babies of them. Yeah. And she literally posted a TikTok. Wait, wait, wait. She makes AI babies of them. Okay. And so yes, yes. So she has what their future family would look like. And literally just posted an Instagram. I don't know if you saw it today. No. Where she was singing that Ash stopped the wedding song. And she's like, if Austin is getting married before me, she would like stop the wedding. So I think she's- Would she be mad that he was getting married or just getting married before her? Like, does she want to be the one getting married? I think she wants to be the one getting married. Well, I do like it, like, her transparency with it. I feel like she's very direct. I know. Like, here's the deal. I like you. There's no games, but yeah, I think they should give it a go. Do you think, and I mean, did you, was Allie, when you were talking to Allie, was she talking about Austin at all? No, I'm sure maybe she, I don't know if they were involved, but I also don't know if she maybe felt like it would be weird to have me, which it wouldn't, because like, but I'm excited to see Allie coming around. I think she could probably have any one of those guys if she wanted. And Wittner is lining up, which I feel, because I feel bad. It seemed like Vanita was so... touched that he bestowed her with a shirtless pic, but it seemed like this shirtless pic made its way around town already. I'm ready. Literally same photo he sent me. Not me thinking that he was being cute and he said it in his chest to everybody. Oh, my, wait, wait, wait, because, hold on, did she get the shirtless pic first, or did Molly and her, I think, I think he kind of did, like, he was just, like, click, click, click, click, send to everyone, I think he was just proud of his work, I guess, and he looked really handsome, so I was like, yeah, yeah, but Charles is too small of a pawn to be doing that, you gotta, at least, send a different one, maybe take a few, I don't know, wait, that's so true, at least, like, do a different pose, yeah, you can do different Different shorts. I don't know. Better lighting. But Vanita... Of anyone is like, she's, she will be fine. You know, like she won't stick around too long if there's any bulls**t for too long. Okay, that's good. Because she doesn't strike me as a girl who would, yeah, who would waste her time. Yeah, totally. And that's what I really like too, that Molly seems to really have Vanita's back with that, where she's like, look, I get that winter's hot and nice, but. I just have to be honest with you like this is not someone that you really need to like a good friend but not someone that you should be like shipping yourself with. Yeah yeah yeah but I feel like she's always a straight shooter too like Vanita's the one you can go and have a conversation with to just like pull you out of something or let you know when something's not adding up you know so I feel like I think I feel like Vanita's like the therapist The therapist of the bunch She does seem like, yeah, she is a fabulous voice of reason Yes. In like the best kind of way Like she's not going to sugarcoat it. And I don't know I think that's, that's helpful in that environment. And what did you make of when Shep was talking to Allie and he was like, so this is how it ended. She's like, you were like, if we were going to continue with this and like physically like, I want to know that we're with each other exclusively. Oh yeah. So first of all, wait, before we get to that my favorite line, of course, is from Shep where he's like, I've never liked the quote, have your cake and eat it too. Like, why would I want, why would I have cake and not eat it? Like, I just love everything that comes out of his mouth. He's so funny He really is so funny and such a sweetheart Yeah. And I mean, that is so true Because I mean, I also want to eat my cake and have it But he's just like, what you see is what you get. And I've always loved and appreciated about that But he does it in such a comical way. So that was my favorite part of the conversation. It was so funny. I know, because that is also, he really is is a truth teller with that and I feel like Ali's gonna make Austin tell more truth because it seems like he was kind of adding flourishment to their story. Also Ali doesn't strike me as granted I met her for like 30 seconds but she doesn't strike me as someone who will put up with the games and like the nonsense. She seems like a very good direct communicator. Yeah. And I think Sally maybe has a little bit more of like a threshold of like putting up with some of the bull Yeah, maybe I don't know. But I don't see Ally being a girl that sticks around for it I know. And I felt so bad watching the moment when Sally was like, I see you taking girls on dates. Because she's like, it seems like she's like, Austin, you tell me you don't want to date, but I see you taking girls on dates, but that girl's not me. You went on some dates with Ally, but you wined and dined her. And you gave her that opportunity, and you didn't give it to me. And it makes me wonder why. Well, do they have, like, sleepover dates maybe early on, and that's why there aren't romantic dinner dates? I don't know. Madison kind of touched on that. She's like, you have to respect yourself if you want to be respected. I was like, I was, like, watching, like, a mom. I was like, yep, what she said. Well, because Madison really is the mom of the group, because she is the mom. Yeah. And I'm, like, watching how she was juggling and struggling not about just... Being so hands-on with her kids and everything like that. I was like, damn, she does not have a second to breathe. No, I know. I know. It's cool to see Madison in that phase because we didn't before. When we met Madison, she already had. The older, yeah. Yeah. And so it's kind of fun. Same with Cameron. Remember when Cameron was on? It was like getting to see her in that. Like the nesting mode more so. So I think that's going to be cool to see on the season. But, um... Yeah, I was going to say something about the Sally and Austin thing. I don't know. I just think they should give it a go. Like, why not? No, right. Because also, like your point, like they've already. Try different levels of it. So why not keep on trying? And if they keep on finding their way back to each other, I'm like, that has to mean something. Yeah, for sure. Yeah. Yeah. And like, I, I also understand like where she's coming from and she talks about the friendship. Cause like Austin is such like a fun friend. Like he's like, you know what I mean? So I could see why you wouldn't want to mess it up. But at the same time, it's like, you've already dabbled in it. Maybe go a little further. And it is, I'm very curious how Craig will be dabbling back into the group. Cause it kind of, And if you can kind of tell like Madison is helping. Keep him in the mix. But this is, of course, a little bit after their reunion where he was sort of... Was reunion like it was... They always pile up on someone. Who was it this time? It seemed like Craig was getting a lot of it. Okay. And then he went on vacation and then came back and he's like, I'm trying to like center myself. And also we're seeing him be a little single. I prefer having a girlfriend because I'm very codependent. It's okay if I'm by myself for a little bit longer. Okay, which is like a first in a while, right? Yeah. He should go with Shep and do the... What's it called? The Costa Rica thing. Oh, love hotel. Oh, no. I just talked to him about it. What is it? The ayahuasca? Ayahuasca. I was going to say Oshawanga. I think Shep should take Craig to an ayahuasca experience and see how that turns out. And maybe like someone film it. That is, I mean, honestly, imagine though, like he does ayahuasca, then he just becomes like the mute killer from the microdrama thing he's starring in. The cover, by the way. That was. What do we think about it? I think if they put shirtless Austin. In the cover, that could be the new Southern Charm season, like, photo. I think they should just swap out the girl, and that's what it'd be about. It's, like, always them bickering and arguing. So I was just like, let's just put a shirtless Austin on the cover, and, like, there we go. Maybe they should do it. They'd be like, let's see what you guys are up to. That's so funny. I know, it's funny. When I talked to Rodrigo about the cover, he said, AI is an amazing tool. And I was like, sir. I actually, I saw a lot of people saying the AI thing. I. I don't know, Craig goes to the gym. I was like, I think he could just like, that's probably real. That's probably, yeah, no, exactly. But yeah, I couldn't escape that and my algorithms if I tried. Oh, no, no, no, it just kept on appearing everywhere. All these things. But what did, so, and you felt overall, you walked in, you were like, I mixed, like, this season, this other time, it's a good one for you to jump back into. Like, it seems like they have a lot going on. Yeah, it's the first one I've seen. And also, I think, like, kicking off the season, first of all, with Vanita's party was perfect because she has the best style and the best eye and the best decor. So, that was, like, such a, I love seeing that and, like, having that be the start of it all. I do think that they have so many different. dynamics going on that's going to make it a super juicy season. Well, and also with this whole love child that's a pretty baby that Madison sees a photo of, I'm like, everyone's just going to be beelining in to see what is going on with that. Whose is it? We don't know. Oh. But there's a picture. There's a picture, so I guess that's like the Maybe they're keeping it hush-hush. Got it. So it'll be a reveal. Hopefully we find out because I'm so curious. I don't know. I definitely misunderstood. I think I thought whoever showed the picture, it was like, that was theirs. I guess I'm unspelling T. I don't know. Okay, yeah, I don't know. I don't know. But yeah, I just think there's a lot more dynamic in this go around. You know, it's not like the same old relationships and problems. It's like new people, new faces. And that I feel like is going to make it. juicy. And I know you're a Texas girl now. Watching the show, did you miss living in Charleston at all or not really? I'm there all the time. I mean, I'm there like at least twice a month. I was just there two weeks ago and I got to see Shep and that's where he was telling me about his ayahuasca experience and also his book. But I feel like I never truly left. I'm there so much. Like you never left. Because you were talking about Allie Luber too, who we love. Has she expressed thoughts about being on Southern? I don't know why she's not on it. I'm like, Like, that makes so much sense. She's friends with everyone. She's friends with everyone from Southern Hospitality and Charm. Okay. But I don't know. I asked her, and she's definitely down to do it. So I'm like, someone, somewhere, make this happen. I feel like she'd be such a fit, and she has such a heart of gold. And I think it would be fun to, like, watch her. Like, I mean, she's pretty acclimated with Charleston. She's got it down. But I just think it would be cool to see her in that scene. Everyone knows her as, like, the L.A. Yeah and I think she's um she's definitely feeling how small it is I get those phone calls every once in a while and I was like that that wasn't something I was going to put on you when you first moved there I was just like you'll find out here in a week you're like you're just like oh that person that yeah it's like yeah you see everybody does she doing that because I know she does her music. Does she do anything with Molly ever or I don't know. I don't know. She hasn't like mentioned that. Why were they? Oh, cause Molly also does guitar and sing. So I was like, Oh, you mean like doing music? Yeah. I got it. I'm not sure. That's a good question. They should get together. Yeah. Especially cause it's so small. I feel like it'd be at the same like venues performing. Right. Right. That's it. Yeah. Good question. And did you go to Charleston by the way? I went to Fan Fest. How was it? It was good. That's where I, we ran into, that's where, um, So I caught up with a lot of the Southern Charm kids, and that was when everyone was saying those rumors about Craig being flirty with Sally, and Austin was not into that at all. And Sally was kind of like, what are we talking about? Okay, but Austin can't be mad at someone else being flirty with a girl he's talking to for past reasons, I don't think. That's true. And if he's not going to seal the deal, then she's able to kind of work the field. I know. I feel like you... Ooh, I like that. Yeah, I know. I feel like you have to talk some sense in them to have them date. yeah wait who like someone you you just like Sally and Austin go do your thing you're like I don't want a part of that Austin and I only talk in like um movie quotes and like memes and that's our safe space oh I like that okay that is a good space to be in yeah so I will let someone else give him that let him handle that yeah and then he doesn't want it for me it's also funny that's where I caught up with Whitney too and he revealed that uh do you know Sonia Tanya Morgan from Roni. Yeah. Yeah. She propositioned a threesome to him once two decades ago. Two decades ago? Or something like that, at the Polo Bar. Who was the third? It was Sonia, him, and I think his girlfriend at the time. Did he say yes? Well, he told us he said no. And I said, you're an idiot. Because that, I mean, what a moment. Opportunity missed, my dude. Yeah, honestly. Sir, what were you thinking? I'm like, Sonya Rina is a star. We don't know that. Whitney didn't offer that threesome. So I don't know. I don't know. We need to fact check that one. That is true. Well, actually, no, because Sonya told us. And then Whitney. Oh, Sonya. OK, OK. Yeah, so we're both in. But I don't know. We need some more facts about what actually went down. Yeah, seriously. That is true. Olivia, thank you so much for recapping the premiere. We are so excited. We hope you can be here all the time in person. with us. But we know if travel gets tricky, we will have you zooming in for fun. But we just are so excited. You're going to be with us. Thank you. Thank you so much. I'm excited. I've got just enough beta blockers and red wine at home. So I got this. What a combo platter. Actually, though. So, work today.