Capitol Report Full Broadcast (Sept. 1)

Good evening and welcome to the Capitol Report on NTD. Here's what's coming up. President Trump demanding data on vaccine effectiveness, as he says debates over the jab are ripping the CDC apart. What's his take on vaccines? And the latest on DC crime as Trump floats sending troops to Chicago. As the federal surge in DC continues, Congress is working on a crime bill for the city. And could we see it expand to other states? We'll discuss with our panel, Lee Neves and Nan Hayworth. Psychological warfare is no longer just for the battlefield. It's influencing everything you see from targeted ads to emotional profiling. What does that mean for democracy though? We'll sit down with doctors Robert and Jill Malone to unpack it. This is Capitol Report, live from our global headquarters in our nation's Capitol. Here's Steve Lance. I'm Jack Bradley in for Steve Lance tonight. And President Trump is urging drug makers to prove vaccine effectiveness, as he says debates are dividing the CDC. He's also touting a victory in DC crime while urging other cities to work with him. NTD's Washington correspondent Mari Otsu brings us the latest. President Trump today is urging drug companies to make public data on COVID vaccines that they've shared with him to clear up what he calls a mess over the drug's effectiveness. The president demands an answer, as he says the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention is being ripped apart over the question. Last week, the president touted his first administration's vaccine development efforts during COVID. Operation Warp Speed, people say, is one of the greatest achievements ever in politics or in the military because it was almost a military procedure. In his Monday post, President Trump acknowledges debates over vaccine effectiveness. Just last week, the CDC director was fired over disagreements over vaccine policy with Health Secretary Robert F. Kennedy Jr. Several officials stepped down in protest. And in other news, President Trump is praising DC Mayor Muriel Bowser for working with his administration to combat crime in the nation's capital. We greatly appreciate the surge of officers that enhance what MPD has been able to do in this city. The difference between this period, this 20-day period of this federal surge and last year represents a 87% reduction in carjackings in Washington, DC. Since the DC crime crackdown began three weeks ago, authorities have made over 1,500 arrests and seized over 160 illegal guns. The president is calling DC a, quote, giant victory and says that the crime rate has come down to virtually nothing. 54 people were shot and seven killed in Chicago over Labor Day weekend. But the Chicago mayor this weekend ordered city police not to work with National Guard troops as President Trump threatens to send them. It's un-American, if you ask me. A U.S. president invading an American city. I've never heard of such a thing. It shouldn't happen. While Governor Pritzker warns that a federal deployment without the state's request would be unconstitutional, the president urges Democratic leaders to work with his administration, just like the DC mayor. The White House on Thursday saying. As President Trump has said, all of these elected officials in charge have to do is pick up the phone and ask for the president and the federal government's help. President Trump says that Mayor Bowser's ratings have gone up since her cooperation and that other cities could see similar results if they worked with his administration. Reporting from the White House, Mario Tsu, NTD News. And now to discuss the latest on the surge in federal authorities in DC and a potential expansion to other states, we're joined by Democratic strategist Lee Neves and former Republican Congresswoman Nan Hayworth. Thank you both very much for joining us here. First off, let's get into gas prices. They're down to the lowest levels nationally that we've seen since 2021. Now at an average of $3.19 per gallon, the highest we saw in 2022 at $3.78 per gallon. Congresswoman Hayworth, how much of this can be attributed to the Trump administration? And do you see this impacting the 2026 midterms at all? Well, I think if the trend continues, it's definitely gonna be a big hit among American consumers. And certainly the price at the pump is something that affects a majority of Americans, no doubt. And it's a regressive kind of situation because it affects people at every level. So what has President Trump done? Well, he has unleashed the power of American energy development. He has enhanced permitting. He has streamlined the procedures for establishing energy development and the transfer of energy. He's freed up the liquefied natural gas market so that we can sell around the world. That doesn't directly affect our price at the pump, but certainly what it does is it makes America once again, much closer to energy independent, if not indeed energy dominant in the US market. And Lee, do you see this impact in the midterms? Do people only notice when the price of gas goes up? Well, I mean, first of all, you pointed out the downward trend in gas prices started in the middle of 2022 while President Biden was still president. I think the big thing here is the volatility. And I'll just throw a few numbers at you. According to AAA in January, the gas price is 311. Now it's up to 319, ending the week of August 25th, not taking in the Labor Day spike, taking in the Labor Day spike. In July, according to AAA, gas price is 314. Now it's up to 321. There's a volatility of gas prices going up and down, and that's going to affect the American consumer. Look, I'm a guy who has to drive all over the place to go see my clients. I would love to see the gas price down. I've got an oil company for a client. I love permit, you know, easier permits for drilling. It's good for business. But what the American public wants to see, especially in 2026, they're going to want to see the volatility to go away. Because what you're seeing now is from week to week, prices can fluctuate from 20 cents down to 20 cents up. And consumers don't know, well, is the price of gas going to be up or down next week? That's right. And as we head into winter, we can expect with the mixed blends, the gas go down a bit. But I would like to get into the crime data in D.C. President Trump's working with Congress right now to put forward a crime bill. That's amid Trump dispatching the National Guard and federal authorities to D.C. Here's Speaker of the House, Mike Johnson, saying they're going to introduce a bill for D.C. first, and then possibly other locations. We're going to handle D.C. first, because that's directly within our purview, and then look to other cities around America as well. We've got to also end these policing policies that have prevented law enforcement from actually keeping safety on the streets for residents and victims, visitors who become victims. And that's an important thing to do. Sometimes local governance does not do the job, and the oversight in D.C. is long overdue. Now, since Trump dispatched the federal authorities' surge to D.C., crime rates have fallen 40 percent, about 40 percent, according to data from the Metropolitan Police Department here. Lee, do you think that Congress will back Trump up here and extend the surge past the 30 days that's allotted to him? Well, you know, you put troops and tanks on the streets of any city, and I think you're going to see crime go down, period. But it's Ben Franklin who said, those who give up essential liberty to purchase a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety. There's a way to do things. There's a way to bring crime down, and putting federal troops and tanks on American streets is not the way to do it. Now, I will credit the Republicans. Crime is a political winner for them. Crime is an absolute political winner for them. And as a Democrat, look, as a Democrat who led a campaign that defeated a George Soros-backed liberal district attorney back in 2022, I can tell you Democrats have been horrible on crime. This is all about political play for 2026. Democrats are bad on crime. That's why President Trump is flirting on Democratic cities. If this was actually about public safety, if he actually was about, we're going to send federal troops to where it needs to be, then he would be asking the governors of Louisiana, Mississippi, Alabama, and Tennessee to invite in the National Guard because they have four of the five highest murder per capita rates in the United States. Congresswoman Hayworth, how do you respond to the concerns that Trump only wants to send the National Guard troops and federal authorities to Democrat-run cities in the states? Well, Lee is highlighting the fact that, indeed, it is our cities that are the most heinously affected by crime, and the cities in the states that Lee mentioned are all Democrat-run, and I think at least some of them have Soros-backed prosecutors, so kudos to Lee for defeating at least one of them. Public safety is, indeed, a popular issue, but the reason it's a popular issue is because it affects people's lives and livelihoods, and we can certainly see that the folks in the small neighborhoods in D.C., you know, the folks who aren't lobbyists, don't have fancy apartments, don't have security, are the ones who are the most grateful for the presence of the National Guard in D.C. Now, it's true, that's a federal district, but the way in which President Trump can introduce the idea of augmenting local police with National Guard in a place like Chicago is through invoking the Insurrection Act, and I have a close friend who's an attorney in Illinois who says that given the heavy activity of drug cartels in Chicago, this is one way of introducing that element of executive discretion from the federal level, but I also agree with Lee that, you know, ideally, obviously, and not even ideally, but ultimately, it is the responsibility of communities, of cities, to manage crime appropriately, and there are a lot of consent decrees from the Obama era, and perhaps even from the Biden administration that have, in many ways, handcuffed police departments in high crime places across the country, so those also need to be examined. All right, Congresswoman Nan Hayworth, Lee Nevis, thank you both very much for coming on, really appreciate it. Thanks for having me. Now, and coming up, President Trump is ending collective bargaining for federal unions. What does this mean for union power? We'll hear perspective from Mark Mix, the president of the National Right to Work Foundation, and do you remember what it was like working your first job? This Labor Day, we'll hear from people here in D.C. about their first ever job experience and the lessons they learned when we come back. Is deep sea fish oil really healthy? Due to pollution in the oceans, most fish contain heavy metal elements and radioactive substances. That's why it's so important to choose Puritan Green Vegetable Omega-3 is made from porcelain and perilla seeds, which are rich in nutrients and minerals, especially vitamins A, D, E, calcium, and iron. With natural processing and no harmful chemical additives, it has more than 90% concentration of omegas-3, 6, 7, and 9. It effectively improves brain power and is beneficial to the heart's health. 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As we honor workers across America this Labor Day, our employees left out in the conflicts between big business and labor unions. To discuss, we welcome on Mark Mix, President of the National Right to Work Committee and Legal Foundation. Mark Mix, thank you so much for joining us here today. Really appreciate you coming on. Yeah, Jack, it's a privilege to be on with you this Labor Day to talk about, I guess, labor unions, right? Absolutely. So, today's Labor Day, where we celebrate the contributions of hardworking Americans and your foundation's name, the Right to Work, tell us about this principle and how the way that unions are set up now may interfere with it. Yeah, indeed, Jack. A very simple principle of the Right to Work movement is we believe every worker should have the right to join a union and they ought to be able to exercise their rights within a union, but no one should be compelled or forced to join or pay dues to a union as a condition of getting or keeping a job in America. It's really simple. That's the good news. But defending employee rights in the workplace is the primary mission of our organization. And so, as unions stand now, what is getting in the way of that happening? I mean, can we have unions exist and have that principle work out as well? Yeah, we absolutely can, Jack. You know, going back to the 1930s when our federal labor policy was promulgated under the Roosevelt administration, the premise of that legislation was basically to give union officials dramatic new powers over every worker in the country. And so, if you come from 1935 till today, one of the things that's been missing from that equation is the employee rights that allegedly were guaranteed under that 1935 law. What it's turned out to be, really, in reality, is big business versus big labor and the employees are left out of the equation. And that's where we fit in. You know, today, union officials only represent 5.9% of the private sector workforce. But yet, if you ask anybody, they call it labor and labor this and labor that. But there are a lot of rights and responsibilities that individual employees have and can implement in the workplace, and we're here to help them do that. And, Mark, last week, we saw President Trump signing an executive order that ends collective bargaining within federal unions. What could be the impact of this? Yeah, well, first and foremost, the idea of monopoly unionism in government is a question that needs further debate. Franklin Roosevelt was asked the question about whether or not we should unionize government employees, and he said, it's unthinkable you would do that. It's just not the same as the private sector, where you have substitutes to the services and the industries that are part of the private sector workforce. But what he's done is he's said that, look, these private organizations that are our labor unions negotiating over terms and conditions of employment for government employees, about how we run our government, is a serious question. And what he did with his executive order, and it's something every president since Jimmy Carter has done since 1979, where they use, basically, the Federal Labor Relations Act, and they exempt certain governmental activities from control, from union control over those activities. What President Trump has done has gone a little bit farther, and he says that any agency that has a national security platform or profile, we're not gonna be negotiating with those unions anymore because those issues are so important to the country when it comes to our national security profile and our national security programs. I mean, obviously, this is more than any other president's done, but each time a president gets sworn in, they usually do this. They say, okay, here's certain activities of the government that should be exempt from negotiations with a private organization about how the agency should run. And let's talk a little bit about the power that these union leaders have to set priorities, pursue political interests, for example, anti-Israel, anti-ICE protests. Is that cutting to the heart of this issue? Yeah, absolutely, Jack, and that's a really important part, so I'm glad you brought it up. The question of what unions do as far as representing workers on the shop floor or in the workplace is a really important part of this debate. Unfortunately, as unions have grown in power and prestige and been given these privileges by government, they've turned to the political process for power and more privilege. And so they're very involved in politics, and those politics end up, for example, on a campus like, for example, MIT, where the union there, the United Electrical Workers Union, why they have, you know, representing graduate students at MIT is the first question. But secondly, why would they go out and use resources that graduate students have to pay as a condition of continuing their education and use that for, you know, political operations like the anti-Semitism that's occurring on several college campuses around the country? We represented a bunch of employees from MIT. We got relief for over 3,000 graduate students that were forced to support a union that was fomenting unrest that called for the elimination of Israel from, you know, the river to the sea and the boycott, divest, sanction programs of the unions. Mark Mix, president of the National Right to Work Foundation. Thank you so much for coming on. Jack, it's a privilege. Thanks for the opportunity and happy Labor Day. Happy Labor Day. From the joy of getting your first ever paycheck to the revulsion of scrubbing public bathrooms, this Labor Day, NTD's Sam Wong headed to the National Mall in D.C. to talk with people about their first ever job experience. Each of these stories is a small yet powerful reflection on the American dream. Let's take a listen. What was your first job and what did it teach you about the value of work and life? I was a paperboy. Earned enough money when I was 12 to buy a car when I was 15. My first ever job was at Tuffer Bell. Oh, geez. Yeah, Nashville, Ohio. Yeah, that's kind of crazy. You know, I ain't gonna sweat. We're on TV, so. But it was quite the experience and put me ahead now. Any horror story? No, not really, you know, other than, you know, flying flies in the beans. So, my first ever job was at the beach. I was a rental attendant and then I also waited tables at a retirement complex. So, both those jobs kind of taught me some different things. One, just the value of hard work because I had to dig a three-foot hole to put the, you know, the thing in every morning. And then, you know, just the ability to communicate. My first job was working at Chick-fil-A and I actually still work there. And I got that job because I wanted to buy a car. So, you're still saving up? Yes, still saving up. Best of luck to you. Thank you. It was a little bit different than the average job because I was a professional figure skater and I traveled across the United States and Canada. Sometimes we had to do three shows a day and by that third show, everybody was so tired but you still have to physically, you know, be a showperson and put it on. Talking about value of work and life, what did your first job mean to you? What did it mean to me? Pretty much, like I said, it just gave me a different stability where, you know, if you want something in life, you know, pretty much you have to work for it and go get it. Just being able to make money and pay for things. You know, back then, it was the 70s and I had $3,000. I could buy a 1973 Camaro. Probably with Chick-fil-A, it's one of the, like, higher end, like, fast food companies and so our values are very, like, get your food out on time, make sure it's right and make sure it's really fast when it comes out. Like, I was handling money and receipts and all that kind of stuff at 15 and I had never handled any money before. I had to learn honesty, too. I pocketed 120 the whole time I was there. Felt awful about it. The next day, turn in the receipt and put it in there. I couldn't sleep that night, you know, so I was like, I'm not gonna steal ever again. Honestly, I wanted to come home, but my parents said, no, you signed a contract. You will fulfill the contract. So I learned perseverance and you work, you get paid, you fulfill your obligation. Elon Musk's AI startup is suing a Chinese national for stealing sensitive trade secrets. The engineer is accused of storing the information on personal hard drives and sending them off to a major competitor, OpenAI. Find out more tonight on China In Focus with Tiffany Meyer at 9 p.m. Eastern. Coming up, Doctors Robert and Jill Malone join us to explain how the government's corporations and tech platforms are waging psychological warfare on the public and how it's already shaping what you think and believe. Their new book, Psy War, pulls back the curtain. We'll be back with that in just a moment. My mom and dad were traditional Asian parents. Now my father would go to work before I woke up in the morning and then he would come home too tired to play with me. I tell my son, I love you every single day. And my dad has never said that to me. Not because he doesn't love me, but because culturally it wasn't comfortable for him. So I teased him the other day and I said, how come you never say that to me? And he said, you're too old now. Now that he's a grandfather, he says I love you to my son every time he sees him. My advice to all the fathers out there, forget the material things, forget the cultural restrictions. They grow up way too fast for you to waste even a single precious minute or moment. Say bye bye. Bye bye. Being a cowboy, I don't know anything different from when I was three or four years old. I did tough things. I thought everybody needed to do tough things. And if you didn't, I didn't have time for you. I had a very successful career at a very young age and life was fast. I was preparing physically. I wasn't doing anything mentally. I was on the inside. And then I got hurt. I wanted to be better as a person and I really dug into mental health. I start my day with 20 minute workouts. I live life eight seconds at a time. Horses are so therapeutic. They know what you're feeling. When you're nervous, they're nervous. He won't say it back, but we're pals. I take a lot of responsibility in taking care of my kids and my family. Be a miracle. You're going to have tough days. Everybody does. Find a place to stop and just breathe. Love your mind. You've done the hard part. You quit smoking. Now do the easy part and get scanned for lung cancer. If you smoked, you may still be at risk, but early detection could save your life. Talk to your doctor and learn more at SavedByTheScan.org. Welcome back. I'm Jack Bradley. How are U.S. government bureaucrats using censorship and propaganda against Americans? And who's helping them? NTD's Melina Wisecup sat down for an in-depth discussion with Drs. Robert and Jill Malone to discuss their book, Psi War, Enforcing the New World Order. Dr. Robert Malone and Jill Malone, thank you for joining us today on The Capitol Report. So your new book, Psi Wars, talks about how agencies and other actors are able to manipulate Americans' minds, and that's happening right now, as we know, through something called the Fifth Generation Warfare. What exactly is that? I'm going to let you go on that one. So Fifth Generation Warfare is really an academic construct to describe one phase of warfare that's really been with us ever since the days of Sun Tzu and probably before the art of war. But it's really become quite prominent in the current time with the rise of digital media, social media, et cetera, and it's been actively weaponized. So as we discuss in the book, Fifth Gen Warfare has to do with the suite of technologies that kind of emerge from propaganda but are specifically targeted at controlling minds and thoughts and feelings. And just to put a point on it, this suite of technologies has really become quite well-developed, particularly in the UK and the United States intelligence community. To illustrate the point, Twitter was really designed initially as a Fifth Gen Warfare weapon. So it was deployed very actively during Arab Spring. So the color revolutions where the United States or the UK or NATO are facilitating regime change, these days are much more often driven through Fifth Gen Warfare technology than through, say, kinetic warfare or assassinations or things that had been, let's say gently, tools of state historically. And so that's really where it's matured. And if you follow, for instance, kind of the genesis of Fifth Gen Warfare and the 77th Brigade, which is the kind of Fifth Gen Warfare battle unit within the British military, it comes explicitly from the advertising sector. So when the British Army stood up the 77th Brigade for their Fifth Gen Warfare unit, they went and recruited from the advertising industry in London in order to seed that. And then they expanded it with a suite of technologies and spycraft, et cetera, and kind of brought all that together. What's interesting about it now is that I'm very confident that what has happened is this body of technology, it really is, tech, it very much involves the Silicon Valley world, has now been assimilated by most major corporations as a major part of their marketing campaign because marketing, propaganda, Fifth Gen Warfare, it's all a continuum. Do you have any thoughts to add, Dr. Joe? I think that we are really seeing it now with Maha and what corporations are doing. Prior to Trump, the corporations had the backing of the Biden administration to do this in terms of COVID-19 and the vaccine and the masking and lockdown policies. And now they're on their own, but they haven't stopped. And global warming. And global warming, yeah. We just, in fact, we should read out that quote that we have on climate change. Corporations are using Fifth Gen all the time. And they'll do things like with the SNAP benefits and Kennedy wanting to take away sugary drinks and ultra-processed foods from being able to be bought with SNAP money. Big Ag created fake non-profits. Those fake non-profits then paid conservative influencers to attack this idea of removing this money from the SNAP benefits, saying that it was a free speech right to be able to spend the government money on sugary drinks. So it was a thousand bucks a tweet was the going rate. Okay. So this is a Fifth Gen warfare put into the corporate setting. That said, you see it all the time, including at the global level. Melissa Fleming, and some of you may remember this, who was the Undersecretary Counsel for Global Communications of the United Nations. She writes, We partnered with Google, for example. If you Google climate change, at the top of your search, you will get all kinds of UN resources. We started this partnership when we were shocked to see that when we Googled climate change, we were getting incredibly disordered information right at the top. We are becoming much more proactive. This is the UN. We own the science, and we think that the world should know it. And the platforms themselves also do. But again, it's a huge, huge challenge that I think all sectors of society need to be very active. So this type of propaganda, the Fifth Gen warfare, it's being turned against the people, and it's being utilized by corporations, by our government, by... Virtually every government. Every government has a psychological warfare. And all these UN global organizations are utilizing it. It's kind of become the norm. Yeah. And we have to... I think as... Really, you could say as consumers, or as the targets of this type of information manipulation, we, I think, are all better for being able to understand what the methods are, what the strategies are, how it's deployed, so that we can hopefully become more resistant to this kind of manipulation. And when it's... What has happened now with Fifth Gen warfare is these tools of propaganda are being used by both sides now. Both the dissidents and those in control. And those in control don't like it very much. And this is where the censorship and propaganda came in so heavily. Because all of a sudden, these tools that they've developed were being used against them. And we really saw that during COVID, but we're seeing it now with climate change. I just read that statement about climate change. If you Google, we did it this morning just to see, climate change, on Google, what comes up first is the UN statement. So it's still there. So they're still owning the science. They're still owning the science. Yeah. I wanted to ask about the political implications, because it seems like this can be used to feed the division between Republicans and Democrats, which would further divide our society and make the problem unsolvable at some point. So what you're talking about is known as splintering. And there's a common phrase now that's kind of entering the lexicon, the splinter net. So the digital space that we had once thought of as commons is being actively divided, just as you say. And it's a well-established technique. Of course, we all know the phrase divide and conquer. So divide and conquer has been with us as a tactic and strategy for as long as there's been human consciousness, I think. And human conflict. But now it's entered into a new age where it can be manipulated and managed in a way that allows control and individualized targeting to people of messaging, of tactics and strategy that will divide them against themselves. And it's not just, you mentioned, the two political parties in the United States. It's within those political parties. It's within even the subunit of, for instance, the MAGA or the MAHA grassroots organizations. You can see aggressive splintering going on within MAGA. You can see aggressive splintering going on between MAGA and MAHA. But there is this element where if you go to Threads and Blue Sky and Reddit, you're probably not over in Parler and X and Truth Social and Gab. People now, they're not seeing the other side. If you read CNN, you're probably not reading The Federalist. I mean, people have really divided themselves. Segregated. And they're segregating geographically, as we know. Yeah. But this is, I mean, as you dive into this and really kind of approach it academically, what you see is that there's a whole cluster of forces that are all interacting. And whether or not there is a grand puppet master, as many people like to imagine, or it's just organic, many, many processes are driving people into very small cells or hives or whatever you want to call it, interest groups that are functionally ignorant of other spaces. And so they basically build little mini cultures or, as Matthias Desmet once said, this is counter-mass formation, that you're having groups develop, being reinforced, and then you're getting oppositions to those groups or counter-movements. And it just all serves to tear our society into pieces. Here's the rub. The tech now is so powerful that really the idea of individual autonomy, of sovereignty, of freedom of thought now becomes obsolete. And so when the government decides that it wants to reinforce its messaging through the use of this suite of capabilities and deploy what was originally designed for offshore combat against their own citizens, then the idea of free and fair elections becomes completely obsolete. The thing to understand about the tech is that it is now sufficiently developed so that it can control all information or it seeks to control all information that you receive and everything that you think, feel, and believe. And it has a lot of tools that it can access to do this as a suite of technology. Of course, now it's increasingly driven by artificial intelligence. Let me just say, so a really good example of how this can work is Dr. Epstein published a series of peer-reviewed papers about Google and elections where they manipulated Google search results and showed that they could change the mind of undecided voters by 20%, okay? 20 points. And he then went on and wrote other peer-reviewed papers after the 2020 election showing that this was probably done in the 2020 election, that Google was manipulating search end results to you or me specifically to influence our vote. Now, you overlay that now with AI where you're no longer seeing Google down here. You're getting it fed to you. You put in, you know, who's the best presidential candidate? Boom. That AI is going to spit something out at you. That is being manipulated. It is not unbiased information that we're getting. And it's only going to get worse. And we'll dive right back into that discussion with more. What is your data being used for? And how is word choice manipulating the narrative? And how to reclaim your brain just after the break. This is such a gentle painting, so beautifully portrayed. A group of people reading together in this simple, everyday-looking living room. A young girl reading along with an adult A grandparent sitting in the lotus position. A businessman in his typical suit. You see all those people, they look like they have quietly settled down there. And you as a viewer, it looks like you've just stepped in the door. You can't see what it is they're reading, so you're a little bit curious and you're kind of invited to walk in. This harmonious feeling is not by accident. It is the very subject of the work. The book they are reading is the main text of Falun Gong, which is an ancient Chinese spiritual discipline in the Buddhist tradition. At the core of Falun Gong are the values of truthfulness, compassion, and forbearance. Unfortunately, the practice is banned in China, where the artist resides. Thousands have been killed for their faith. Golden energy blooms into the room as a result of their steadfast faith. The painting on the back wall reminds us of this work's title, Plum Blossoms in a Muddy World. It's also a metaphor for the practitioners that are sitting in the room as plum blossoms. They signify perseverance and hope that all brutal winters end and life is renewed once again. It's a magical thing. Hate is loud. It gets clicks. It gets attention. Hate, however, is actually quite small. But love, love is the majority, filling up something far more important than any feed. Love fills our hearts. Our lives. Our everyday. With understanding, empathy, and compassion. Leaving hate to become what it truly is, a whisper. Welcome back. I'm Jack Bradley. What is surveillance capitalism? And what can you do to reclaim your independent thinking? We return to part two of our special interview with Doctors Robert and Jill Malone to discuss their new book, Psi War, Enforcing the New World Order. So I can take it to the next level. One of the chapters in the book talks about surveillance capitalism, which is not another, once again, these are not terms that we've coined. This is another term that's used in academic literature having to do with propaganda, surveillance capitalism. So what is surveillance capitalism? We all know it. We experience it when you go on your Google search engine or you go on Amazon, the classic is, I was just talking about that car with my husband and I went on Amazon and suddenly there's an advertisement for it. The point is that what is happening is that with all of these data gathering tools, like the card that you use when you go to the grocery store where you get your discount, that's a transaction. You may not realize it, but when you're using that card or that phone number or whatever, what's happening is that digitally, they're capturing your purchasing activity on that day and that all goes into a file together with all other data associated with you. For instance, the Delco data that's coming from your GM vehicle about your driving patterns, all the banking information they can gather, your health information. This is all going into Social media and your health data. Yeah, all of your search engine activities, these all go into a very large file. This is one of the reasons why we need all these data centers. And then that file is used to create a profile of you for essentially an avatar, which is then used to generate what are called digital futures or predictive futures. And those are then sold. Those are sold to whomever wants to buy them, including the government. And what they're used for is to predict your behavior, your buying patterns, your voting patterns, everything about you, is once you get enough of this granular data, particularly with artificial intelligence, then you can generate a functional file of you, something that could be uploaded and purchased. And then that data, that file, and its profile and characteristics becomes the input for the tools that then decide what information is going to be fed to you in a customized way in order to shape your buying patterns, your thought patterns, your emotional state, et cetera, et cetera. And I really first became aware of this when I was working for a company, one of my clients as a consultant a number of years ago called Behavior Matrix. And what Behavior Matrix now has been sold and absorbed largely into the intelligence community and into Silicon Valley. But the core of the technology at the time, and this is circa eight years ago or so, was that they had a language processing engine that would extract emotional coordinates out of what you were saying and the types of words you were using. By the way, it was multilingual. And so it could translate and analyze information, text information from your cell phone, from telephone conversation, from what you do on social media, et cetera. And all this goes into a profile of who you are, what you're feeling, what is currently motivating you. And then that was integrated together with tools that would map you within a cloud of other individuals, essentially an influencer pattern. We're very familiar with that now. And then would allow another tech that we all have become very familiar with. We call it shadow banning, for example. The selective amplification or deamplification of voices within a social media community, for instance, so that people that are within that community might say to themselves, oh, look at what Joseph is saying. I like Joseph. I follow Joseph. I think he's really astute. And look what he's saying now. He's saying that we should all go to this plaza and protest against the current president or whatever. All that information was then tied together with geospatial tracking because if you're using a cell phone and there's at least two cell towers, you can be precisely targeted and identified in geographic space. And then that was linked to Gorgon Stare, which is this high resolution, low altitude camera system they have in the satellites so they can physically see exactly who you are, where you are, who you're with, what vehicle you're in, what you're thinking, who you're interacting with, et cetera, et cetera. And then that all becomes input vectors for the management of you. It sounds like you touched a little bit on it earlier, but I want to ask you about neurolinguistic programming. And if you could give some examples of how that was used during the COVID-19 pandemic. The classic, of course, is safe and effective. Another one is we've all seen these reels where you'll see news broadcasters from different stations all repeating the same words again and again and again. One that's just come up on my radar that's new is grandparent vaccines. So grandparent vaccines now is everywhere on certain types of social media. Grandparent vaccines are the idea that grandparents should not be allowed to see their children, their grandchildren, unless they've had DTAP, RSV, name some of the others, there's some big ones, measles, shingles, and there's two more, I think. They have to have a full set of revaccination before they're allowed to see their grandparents. There's no academic literature. There's no evidence for this, but if you go to the AI now and you put grandparent vaccines, it'll come up with, oh yes, every grandparent must do this before they're allowed to see their grandparents. Grandparents are being told they cannot come see their children. And overnight, this is a new word, somebody has come up with and it's just virally spread, so there's an example. There's a number of great examples on the internet. Neurolinguistic programming, if you look on Wikipedia, it says this is basically, it says it's another conspiracy theory, yet it's used all the time. There's lots of techniques. They use mirroring, so they'll mimic your facial expressions and how you talk. Repetitive messages of safety. There's a whole bunch of things with neurolinguistic programming, which is also used in advertising. Another word for it is subliminal advertising. It's part of that cluster of things. Repetitive images, you know. I mean, for you to even have seen that, it kind of shows how you've broken yourself out of this and become hyperaware of it. Yes. Can we talk a bit about how somebody who's sort of aware of what's going on, of course you've delved into the details, but somebody who knows what's going on, but they're not sure what to do about it, what would your advice be to them? My advice would be, first off, is to step away from the internet and your cell phone for a period of time every single day. Do not let yourself become so immersed in this technology that there's no reality outside of that reality for you. The next is to really look at everything with a jaundiced eye and get a second opinion. Like, if you're doing an AI search and you're getting a certain, it's feeding you down a certain pathway, start asking questions to make it go the other way. Same with your search engine results. If all you're seeing is, you know, mainstream media, go deeper. So in Grok, you can actually select the button to, what does it say, think more deeply or something like that, okay? So it'll, Grok, if you ask Grok a question, we're talking about the X-based artificial intelligence program that keeps evolving. I forget if it's called Grok 4 or Super Grok, or I don't know what it is lately. Sounds like a Pokemon. But you ask Grok a question and it pretty much will give you the answer. you back the mainstream narrative, which is often reflected in Wikipedia. And if you're And then if you want to go deeper than that, if you really want to know the answer, then you have to say, think deeply. But still, it's not using peer-reviewed literature. It's only using popular literature and media. It's not going to any sort of peer It goes to approved sources. It goes to approved, Grok 2 approved sources. Largely trusted news initiative-based information. So this is all the major newspapers, Reuters, Associated Press, et cetera. Absolutely not Epoch Times or NTD. Yeah. Sometimes if it's a very niche article, Epoch Times will show up first. If it's something nobody else would report on, then it will show up. But again, this has been Google's choice to do this to Epoch Times and NTD. And at every level, we have to fight these people. Because these corporations, because they want to control us. Right. And speaking of that, you all wrote in your book that individual citizen journalists are sort of the countermeasure to this. Do you all see free speech prevailing here? More so now than eight months ago. Yeah. Why is that? Because Trump completely upended the censorship industrial complex. He has torn it apart. And USAID has gone on the DHS CISA, which was the arm of the censorship for the government. That's gone. The FBI has initiative to go after the COVID origins and find out what really happened. And they actually came to our farm a few weeks ago and interviewed for a good four to five hours about this. Government officials. FBI officials. Friendly ones. Yeah. But I want to go back a little bit to what can people do? Because I think this is a super important question. Part of the purpose of the book is, yes, it's a personal exploration because we've been subjected to so much of this technology over the last five years by dissenting from the approved narrative concerning COVID and the vaccine products, et cetera. Early treatment. But there's that of just trying to process and make sense of what we've experienced. But really, the book is intended for the reader to be a source of information and learning. It's, you know, we're both academics. You know, that's a cell phone. And so, yes, sometimes it ends up sounding a little scholarly. There's lots of references in there. But if you work through the book or the audio version, a lot of people like the audio version. And that doesn't mean cover to cover, but pick out the chapters that you find interesting. What'll happen is you'll become more like Jill. Your eyes will be open. You'll be able to see a lot of these types of manipulations. And then, as they're coming at you, you can process that information and be better prepared to see what's behind it. What are the real push issues that are driving these things? And we'll continue this discussion right here on The Capital Report tomorrow night. And that's all we have for you today. For round-the-clock original news coverage, visit us at ntd.com slash live, or download our ntd app. From the nation's capital, I'm Jack Bradley. Have a nice evening. We'll see you right back here tomorrow.