Animation Workshop Feedback - Tim Seitz #3 (2022)

All right, let's check this out here. There is sound. Right, so I would say the main thing that I'm seeing from a technical point of view is that his head feels very IKO world space where even especially here you can see how you translate back as the body goes forward. It's not sticking per se into the space but there's a bit of a counter move here and then through all of this like I know he's looking at her but there's no side to side wide or up and down that kind of loosens up the neck a bit. It feels all very locked and here again it feels like the head goes back as the body goes forward getting to very locked areas and everything feels in one axis going forward. This seems like there's a bit of a turn like this but it feels more like a translate. So again, I don't feel like enough rotational complexity. Again, this feels like this goes forward independently while this goes back a bit. The main thing that struck me in this is just the head. Then you have this where we're having a little bit of a move here. Not a little bit but but then it gets a bit still very separate as it's mostly up here and also I'm assuming those are IK arms. There's something odd with this going straight down while the elbow is moving but the wrist is kind of locked there. That's my main thing. Well, let's go the next one here. You mentioned Imo a bobble head. I had the same feeling where there's a lot of separate stuff that almost starts to feel dislocated, unhinged from the rest of the body there. Especially something like this that I want feels very much like a forward translate versus a bit of a lean to the side with you know like inside lean the nose over to this with a little bit of a little bit of a arc. Even her just for that moment she goes here I feel that rotation through here while nothing else is involved in the neck area or in the chest. Even when you go like this with this arm I see maybe something in here but it feels like it could be more in the shoulder and then also with the chest it just feels all very like a lot of characters feel very separated where even this move starts to feel a bit separate. There's other stuff involved there that brings a bit together but then once we're done with that move the head the head and the chest area here with the neck through there that feels like it's one big piece just kind of moving over and then with her last like she's not I'm not sure if she's just freaked out and that's how she's staring I was expecting her to have some darts and follow him and it's kind of be a bit looser again she feels like it's one pose where this feels almost like a default hand pose like it feels like she could be loosened up a little bit maybe the head goes back maybe she starts to lean back a bit going uh I did not I don't know this crazy person type of thing and even here for him it feels like there's an over rotation sure as he turns but then this feels like it's a straight rotation back in one axis this just goes straight down one axis and watch out we're hitting a very harsh one frame direction change everything feels because of that very stiff very light there's no don't think that kind of overlaps overshoots are his arms here again we have a bit of a almost a sticky head but coming out with a translate and even on that turn right through there I see how the chest is moving where the head orientation feels pretty much locked and here again we're having this going down going down bam back over one frame with no real separation between these it just it just overall feels too stiff and his arms start to feel a bit too a bit too in sync there but also look like IK arms because of the path and the sudden just the lack of arc like how rough those those arts are and how the wrists are locked in the same position almost there that's my main thing it's just I still like everything in terms of the ideas and all the stuff that's going on it just feels too stiff to me in terms of the chest and head relationship and mainly how the head feels like it's just an IK translated head now if you do listen to the audio these are not like the cookies right like there's a certain rhythm to this where imagine as he walks like he he's not freaking out just yet he's still bottling up all his anger but he could still pretend to be a bit more relaxed and that imagine there's a bit of a side to side sway like you know he could almost lean back a bit these are not and that's when he goes forward that could be side side the cookies and then that's when he starts to get a bit more like staccato a bit more more chopped up and that's when I feel like that's you can really have some side to side moving that involves the chest where let me see his arms okay like that that that that it's also kind of missing in his arms like I feel like you could you could almost loosen that on this is a bigger change you don't have to do this but it's almost like you could start with him all right arm back these are not and that's when he goes I order and that's when he gets like this when he gets a bit more strict and I don't mind the twinning because at that point it gets very stiff you mean like it's almost the this the rhythm is all right these are not the things because that's whatever you mean like that's kind of the the rhythm that I'm missing subjectively from that all right even this here he's he's bottling it up but all that's happening is just a back and forth kind of even in timing head shake this could also be something this is a bigger you know what's it called a subjective take on this but also watch out these are two twin at this point in terms of timing how they go back again feels like um IK arms but what if at that point like again imagine he's a bit looser and you can do this by keeping this and just kind of loosening up by swinging a bit more left and right like I don't want to be too destructive but imagine one arm down he leans back he's loose then he gets tighter with this pose and right during that part that's when he he almost wants to yell at her all right I and then he goes oh and then he goes back like no no no no I can't yell at her I can't do this he goes back I've been working so so instead of talking down to her that's when he starts squatting because okay let me let me be on your on your same level and you can even potentially bring this up here how again this is more destructive in terms of a note but he could be in a in a bigger squatty pose like I'm going to be on the same level as you I'm not yelling yet but I'm still angry so hard keeping everything together baby and I can't even get the cookies that are so and then with that imagine again this is very destructive and you don't have to do any of this just the thought he starts by trying to be on her level right squatting down all right this is what I'm trying to do and at the end my fancy color change at the end he is no it didn't work hold on it didn't change colors there you go and then at the end he is standing leaning pointing at her obviously you know that it would be more of a balanced thing where he's like this and like but then he imagined like there is a throughout his he gets more and more angry so he starts trying to be on her level and ends up talking down and stiff because it's almost like his anger you know blows him up where it's like air filling the balloon the balloon is now stretched and stretched and then she says that and that's the thing that pops the balloon so you could you could have him you know I mean something straight so again he would he would have started in the previous shot like this ends up straight and that's not where the balloon pops and then this happens anyway I know this is brought more destructive I just want to make sure that like the the thought that I have behind this makes sense like I am I don't want to be too bogged down by technicalities of well your head feels a bit see like a lot of translates and a lot of arms I just want to make sure that I give you all my thoughts in terms of how could we also plus this shot beyond the technical thing where instead of here where he's pretty much in the same pose here right if I have this with onion skinning see through all of this he's kind of stuck in this you might argue well he's trying to not explode and he puts himself into that box I can see that argument for sure and maybe you can then have him be more like this and at the end lean a bit more but I know I kind of like the idea of all right like here he's about to be angry and yell at her goes back no no I can't yell at a kid let me change this completely and be on your level it looks like but it's totally condescending and then throughout the shot of this one he gets angrier and angrier and straighter and that it explodes I know throw that out there as an idea feel free to take whatever you want but if we disregard all of this my main thing is you got to make sure that there is more separation between head chest and roots watch out that your arms are not two twins and changing direction so it's like the the body over one frame giving these more fk arcs versus the ik look that's my main thing when I watch this whole thing I see more technical issues that kind of almost distract from the rest but imagine the technical issues were gone and that's when I would have those suggestions in terms of the acting same thing here like he starts off like I said looser hey let me talk to you and then he gets angry and he goes back he's constantly teetering between oh I want to be nice oh I want to kill this girl but I want to be nice I think it's that that back and forth I think that could really push that shot so he's not constantly he's constantly on edge and straight throughout I mean I know he's bent over here but there's always so much tension and then he explodes and it would be kind of fun to kind of pull back pull back and then he explodes anyway ranting or ranting I'm just saying stuff now so leave it at that as always email me let me know your thoughts how you want to move forward you can take any of these notes however you want and 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