Vitalstoffbegleitung während einer Chemotherapie | Dr. med. Heinz Lüscher | Erfahrungsmedizin | QS24

Are you already on Wikisana? Welcome, dear viewers, to today's episode of Naturmedizin. Cancer. The diagnosis is of course a shock at first, but there are ways to treat cancer in a holistic way. Or, if you decide to go for chemotherapy, an operation or radiation, we can support the whole process, stabilize the organism and the patient. We will discuss all these topics today with my guest, Dr. Heinz Lüscher. Stay tuned. Hello, dear Heinz, nice to have you here. Hello, Corinna. We always have a funny round. Today's topic is cancer. It's not quite as funny, but it's an important point for me to discuss with you. When does the diagnosis come, how is it transmitted and what does it trigger in a patient? That's a good start, because it's an incredible shock to get a cancer diagnosis. And it's often transmitted without sympathy. I could give you examples, they're worth a lot of money, how you informed the patient about cancer. The worst thing I've ever had was at the parking lot. Where the doctor called from the entrance, oh, you have cancer, come back again. It's unbelievable, this insensitivity that the patients tell me. I don't experience my colleagues like that, but the patients tell me such stories. In Switzerland, 200 new cancer diagnoses are made per day. That's ten times more in Germany. Funny, the trend is increasing, dramatically increasing. Yes, now we also have these cancer stories, which grow uncontrollably in a dynamic, where even a classical school physician says, at this rate, I don't know this at all, or in the drama. I hear that everywhere, also from nursing staff at mammography, they say, we are overwhelmed, we have so many breast cancers, new patients. Yes, that's not the topic today, but there are already reasons to promote it. So I don't see people at the moment they get the diagnosis, because you can only do that in the hospital, with MRIs and biopsies. So people come to me and I have the report about what kind of cancer it is. And at the Weiss Medicine Center, we can accompany the patients at every stage. I prefer to have it from the beginning, then we can discuss a whole strategy together. But you can also come when the radiation is over and we just continue to see what we can do. At any time, we can take in patients with cancer. You know this fear-reduction wheel, which of course starts directly with the diagnosis, that you say, here, you have cancer now, I have an OP appointment next week, and then we have to start immediately. What would you advise a patient to re-center himself for a moment? Can a cancer patient who now has a tumor of, I don't know how many centimeters, suddenly die on Friday? It also took him a while to get to that point. My advice is primarily not to make a decision immediately, not to put yourself under pressure and make a statement immediately, but to say, please, I need a night, I want to discuss it, think about it, I want to involve my family, I'll let you know tomorrow. Is the family the right advisor? Yes, sometimes it is. Sometimes there are families who say, Mom, you have to do everything, we want to keep you, do everything the doctors say. Then it's easier for the affected person. Of course, I have families who have a little more knowledge of integrative medicine and they say, wait a minute, we'll be smart, let us know in three days and we'll discuss it again. It depends a lot on the family and how you deal with the disease. But basically, if I get the diagnosis today, I won't die on Friday. It doesn't have to be operated on tomorrow. But there are cancers where it is urgent and there are others where you can wait a month without any problems. That depends on the individual. I can't say that in general. But I would actually have to talk to someone who is ideally not economically dependent on my therapy. If you look at the implementation of chemotherapy, and the hospital is an economic company, I mean, I don't send my customers away. Yes, that's true. I hear this pressure exercise from almost all patients. A lot of pressure is exerted. Above all, what happens in your experience with patients who choose a different path? Well, they are no longer so popular. The hospital cannot refuse. I need the cooperation with the hospitals. I am dependent on MRI and biopsy. I can't do that. Therefore, if someone does not want the prescribed therapy, then he is a second-class patient. I experience that very often. But you don't get kicked out. But the hospital has a treatment order. If someone only comes for the check-ups, then they have to do it. Okay. How would you approach this? Let's say, ideally a patient comes to you who says right after the diagnosis, okay, I would like to hear a few more opinions. Look, there are guidelines in oncology. And of course they are the same everywhere. If you go to the doctor in Zurich or Berlin, there is really no difference. We have the same oncological guidelines. They are so detailed. Really. Let's take breast cancer. Whether the breast cancer is in situ or invasive ductal and hormone-dependent and R2 positive or negative. For every detail, the guidelines say what to do here. The oncologists are trapped in these guidelines. If they deviate from them, I don't know, they might even lose their job at the hospital. That's why they are often afraid of alternative stories. I can't speak for the oncologists. I need them. I'm not against them. That's important to me. Integrative medicine and oncology should work together and not against each other. We could achieve better results, both of us. That would also be an advantage for oncology. Maybe one or the other chemotherapy is no longer necessary. This is reflected in the budget of the hospital. Sure. Per cancer patient, with all the complete calculation, that's half a million. Sure. All together, in the first 1-2 years, you get such amounts. What would you do in the beginning? I would be very differentiated. There are huge differences. You would be differentiated. That's the difference. Of course. I also look at the patient's attitude. I have patients who say chemotherapy is out of the question for me. Do you have something else? Then we talk about the alternatives. But most patients say they are afraid. And the oncologist only gives me three years if I don't do it. Then I help people through chemotherapy. But I'm not against it. I never tell a patient something that he wants to do. To what extent does the role play for you that the patient is not afraid of the treatment, but is confident? Let's assume purely theoretically. Let's say for an integrative physician in this case no chemotherapy is necessarily necessary. But the patient is completely convinced that chemotherapy will help him. Then I let him. Because it's not my job to convince people that they don't want it. And do you think that exactly this self-efficacy, that he believes in it, has a much greater impact on his success than if he had adhered to any measures? Yes, absolutely. The positive attitude and there are studies about it. When cancer patients are positive and say I'm fighting, I'm doing this, I've informed myself. They have better prognoses. That's why when someone says if this chemo helps me and I just accompany him so that he can tolerate it better, then he should do it. How would you accompany a chemo? You also work a lot with micronutrients. Yes, a big topic. Sometimes I'm a bit in a clinch with oncologists because they are very careful. I hear again and again that they say that this reduces the risk of coma. You shouldn't take green tea. That's what the patients tell me. I don't want to challenge the oncologists or fight. That's not the goal. There are a lot of nutrients that improve the side effects of chemotherapy and even increase the risk of cancer. But these are things that I notice that the oncologists don't deal with and simply refuse. Then I take advantage of it. The oncologists say you can eat what you want. It doesn't matter. Then pour a teaspoon of turmeric over your food. Then the oncologist has nothing against it. Quality and bioavailability especially when you work with such natural substances but in a therapeutic concentration or perspective it is still important to have good quality and that the body can absorb it. Chemotherapies are really toxins. There are probably a lot of free radicals I once had a patient who switched to raw food during chemotherapy. I have never experienced such a thing. I had no side effects at all. But if you understand that there are a lot of antioxidants in raw vegetables then you also understand that this has significantly reduced the side effects or the risk of chemotherapy without damaging the effect. So that would be the basis. We need a lot of antioxidants during chemotherapy. Do you also work with vitamin D? Yes. That's one thing. Now we also need a strengthening of the immune system. Vitamin D, magnesium, in high doses K2, omega 3, selenium, zinc they are all proven to inhibit cancer via the immune system. Because through chemotherapy the immune system is weakened. And I can rebuild that in this way. People like to say that the chemo patient dies because of the weakness in the end, the decay. If we take the lady as an example raw food is actually what many cancer patients think. I need energy so I can't switch to raw food. But if you eat yoghurt, white bread and liver sausage at the hospital then the body will definitely build up from the substance because there are no antioxidants in the case. And this logical conclusion that raw food is able to provide the antioxidants and thereby prevent the decay of the cells or the tissue structure musculature then I actually have what I want but logically, the patient may say only through fruit and vegetables I lack the energy. Yes, you have to look if chemotherapy goes on for months then the protein supply I don't misunderstand I don't say all cancer patients have to take raw food I didn't mean that at all I just wanted to point out that an antioxidant diet reduces the side effects of chemotherapy significantly. That was my point. Normally I tell people to take enough protein and fat What are your recommendations? You can eat normal you can also eat meat during chemotherapy and eggs The question is always whether you tolerate it because we are skeptical about dairy products because milk contains growth factors that is completely underestimated the proteins are okay milk is a food for babies they have to grow it has a lot of growth factors and they promote tumor growth Don't I also have that in mass-produced meat? It also has to grow it also got the same cluster Yes, of course when it is pushed up but you still have to eat something Yes, it depends on the movement whether you take back amino acids Yes, of course Most people have to make sure that the therapies are affordable Antioxidants are one thing but in nature there are cancer-preventing substances and I can use them during chemotherapy I notice that the knowledge of oncologists is limited Let's take breast cancer Breast cancer responds very well to indole-3-carbinol This is a substance that occurs in cabbage broccoli, cauliflower cabbage what else is there? I tell all these women to eat a large plate of cabbage every week then you have a free chemotherapy with you These substances there are studies about it they show how it works what exactly happens in the cancer cell or in the tumor Practically all these substances inhibit NFKB NFKB is an enzyme a substance that promotes cancer and this NFKB is inhibited by various micronutrients or the VEGF Vascular Endothelial Growth Factor This is an enzyme that promotes the regeneration of blood vessels in the tumor and this enzyme is inhibited by turmeric by OPC by green tea and so on So I can inhibit a tumor growth with natural substances and thus support chemotherapy What does the patient do? The patient has now received his chemotherapy plan Of course, there are also economic interests that I plan as many chemotherapies as possible Now the patient is doing all these things in parallel and the effect of the chemo that should have been on the 10th is suddenly already on the 5th And is there the possibility where you also say that an interim balance should be drawn so that the patient is now blind again just the five rows of donuts The main thing is that you have fulfilled his treatment plan This is a very difficult question because you can't do an MRI again and again It's more expensive and especially really to know how big the tumor is you would have to do a PCT This is a radiation burden This is done at most every six months You don't do that every month to see if it works Also for costs, but also for burden reasons And that's why when you plan then it is usually planned for six months before you do a check what it brought It's a shame that we don't have any possibilities or ways to somehow see if the body is really over the mountain You know, there is also the fact that the size of the tumor does not always show I've seen it so often that you see a tumor in the MRI 3-4 mm and then during the operation it was so big These are good methods but not yet perfect What would you give a cancer patient on the way if he really comes to you and what are the We haven't even talked about the other therapy measures You also have the possibility in your center to work on local hypothermia What exactly happens there? Yes It really depends on the stadium During a chemotherapy I don't do many other therapies This is so incisive burdensome, exhausting side effects People lose their hair The mucous membranes suffer Digestion is disturbed nausea It's really very difficult and in this phase I can't offer other therapies that also do People may not come here In this phase I give people these micronutrients green tea, turmeric OPC a whole program of cancer-preventing substances and the strengthening of the immune system This is my support during the chemotherapy When this is completed and the patients are back in strength then we can do infusions You can test that I think I've already talked about it This RGCC test shows me on what substances the tumor responds individually Two people have breast cancer One helps the other doesn't And you have the possibility to find out Yes, but there are expensive tests that you have to pay yourself We don't just test the natural substances but also the monoclonal antibodies and the chemotherapies which are useful I don't understand why oncologists just follow guidelines Maybe what's in the guidelines is okay, but not the best We don't know if you don't do the test You could save yourself a lot of suffering I think if we want to be healthy we probably have to take money into our own hands When you are affected by cancer you have to invest I don't know how many people are interested in integrative medicine Maybe 10% The majority just goes to the hospital and does what they are told I think it's because of the shock and fear with all these threats and that's why a lot of people are not able to sleep one night and listen to another opinion You can see what has happened in society and what you can achieve with fear We see that on several levels We don't need cancer Cancer is like that a lot of fear is created For example breast cancer is hormone-dependent The anti-hormone therapy sells life insurance The difference whether I do it or not The women who did it for 5 years The difference is less than 10% The profit when these women benefited from it For me, if I want a therapy that lasts so long and is so intense that it really benefits me and no side effects and not just 4 or 5% maybe a few months longer It can't be I am honest with the patients I don't say take it or don't take it It's not my decision I inform and I often tell the women for example Talk to the oncologist Ask for the studies He should inform you What is the difference in the life expectancy with or without anti-hormones What is the difference in the risk of relapse with or without hormones He should give you the numbers which are studied and then you have a decision-making basis If the doctors are honest then the woman knows that she doesn't need it I always ask Would you give it to your wife? Yes Then there is always a Yes, but I have also had those who say, of course I have also heard that Yes, yes, ok Let's wait Look, Corina This is the most difficult diagnosis that a person can get I have to include all facts I also want I always tell these people Bring your partner or even children Let the family participate We want to find a common path which everyone can follow Yes A cancer patient like me has a whole hour for the first conversation Nice Then let's hope that this topic of cancer will be considered more comprehensively Especially the patients I think this will certainly be a key that you are able to go the way that suits you and which promises an effective healing I have already made many programs on this topic with Lothar Hirneiser There are really well-documented alternatives Even if oncology says that's all or unscientific We have a lot of scientific data that show something different than what is officially claimed Yes I also find the studies that show the survival rate of a chemo are also interesting The question is if this is the most motivating way There is It will be the same But well There is a quote from the chief doctor of oncology of a Parisian hospital I can't quote it but I have it written on my phone He said If I get cancer I will make a wide arc around all oncological departments He said as a former chief doctor Yes Thank you for the closing words It makes me think again Definitely And it's really about finding doctors like you who say I know both sides and we can find a combination or this way or that way and we have a solution for everything or a companion Thank you very much, dear Heinz You're welcome Dear viewers Thank you for taking the time to watch a wonderful doctor and companion for the patients and their individual path Thank you