Das Leben von einem Weisheitslehrer und Heiler | Erfahrungsmedizin | QS24 Gesundheitsfernsehen

Wikisana is also a good channel to follow our conversations. Welcome, dear viewers, to our format today, natural medicine. Today we find out how an entrepreneur managed to become a wisdom teacher through life, but also to accompany people in the whole of medicine and consciousness. And I am very happy that he is here today. Steffen Lohrer, stay tuned. Hello dear Steffen, nice to have you here. Hello Corinna, I am happy. I am also very happy, especially because you have a very, very exciting career path. You really were a classic entrepreneur and then really traveled the world, gained experience and then really made your own thing out of it all. And I am very happy that we are talking about your path today. Yes, nice. Also a sign that I have put on my glasses today, because I have my healer with me. What's going on? Kadabra, Kadabra. I didn't find it, no chance. But I see you, luckily. And of course I am happy to hear from you now. How was your path? We already had a little up to 30. Yes, I originally studied business engineering, so I was very much in the analytical part of my brain and had to prove a lot of logic, analytics. Engineer, electrical engineering, you can prove everything there. And I actually had no access to any world at all, which is perhaps a bit more substantial or goes beyond what we learn in math and physics. And yes, then I founded a company. Then there were several companies. When I was 20, it started, until I was 30. And that was the classic entrepreneurial path. At some point completely in the hamster wheel and was always doing, doing, running on all levels. And of course a lot of stress at the time. And yes, then various situations brought me to the fact that I suddenly opened up for another way. And the first situation was that at some point I was lying on the floor at home and it turned out that I was in my company. Then an assistant came in and complained about other assistants. And I was already very close to going home. And yes, I already knew that if I came back too late today, there would be a real bang with my ex-girlfriend, because I was constantly too late for dinner. Yes, and then it built up in me. And of course I wanted to listen. I was nice and yes, it poured out of my heart. And at some point I drove off. Then I was actually only five minutes away from home. And then of course the barrier of the tram went down. And then I still see how I almost bit into the steering wheel, because I knew, oh, now I'm coming mega late. The tram must have rolled into the closet for five minutes. And that's how it started. At home there was a real bang and then I was lying in the bathroom and the pump went mega fast. And yes, I really had big problems. I couldn't speak anymore at that moment. But that was the moment for me when I said to myself, Steffen, you have to change something now. It can't go on like this. You have to do something to get out of the hamster wheel. And that was when you were 30? And that was just before 30, exactly. That was a turning point. And since I was always very goal-oriented at the time, I thought, okay, how do I get there, that I get absolute inner peace, no matter what's on the outside. And then there was such a beautiful goal plan. Of course, an entrepreneur makes a three-year plan, a five-year plan. And yes, that was the beginning, that I then thought, okay, I can meditate, I look for relaxation exercises, I go to an ashram, I travel the world. And yes, that's how it came that I traveled from country to country, from healer to healer, from wisdom teacher to wisdom teacher. And then I tried again and again, how do I get into this inner center that is unchangeable? That was the approach to it. Can you say that someone really took you with them, where you said, wow, that's it, or was it the sum of all things afterwards? For me it was the sum of all things. What I experienced a lot, however, was in India. I was very often in the Osho Meditation Center. I took a lot with me there. I think I was there 10 or 12 times over the years. And there was really everything you wanted. So it was a meditation center that was very free and very open. That means you could meditate all day, or you could do workshops all day, or you were just at the pool, or you danced in the evening, or you were in other workshops. So everything was open and possible there. And I loved that very much. And after that, a lot came to Osho with Advaita Vedanta. That was Ramesh Balsekar in India, a wisdom teacher, where it's all about being one. So this non-duality, Advaita Vedanta is what it's called. And that really touched me. And then I just got deeper and deeper into it. There was also, what I didn't say in the introduction, you are really a healer. You also do seminars. Was there a moment when you noticed, wow, there's something coming up in you, some ability that is now tangible? Yes, that was also the case at the time when I was with a friend in Brazil. We actually went there or flew there because he had metastases all over his body. So he had cancer in his head, kidneys, liver, intestine. And that was kind of his last hope. I flew there to see what he was doing. And then we were with a healer where I think 200 or 300 people were standing in front of the door every day. And at first I was like, okay. Of course, I was totally in doubt about the economic agenda. Ah, there was still the doubter. That was still the doubter, yes. I wasn't on the way yet, not yet in Ashram. It was all pretty much the same time. And yes, in the end I experienced that healing with two or three people who lived near us. And with my friend there was absolute stillness of the disease when he was there. And even from the healer to the face promised, it will stop now. And in fact, that was seven, eight years of stillness. And he is healthy today and is now a kitesurfer here in Morocco, somewhere on the coast. So brilliant. And that was so brilliant for me. I didn't believe it at first. I didn't believe that it could be the truth, that there is another reality besides the physics and chemistry that I learned. But as I was, of course, on my travels, which I had already mentioned, to many healers, not only wisdom teachers, but also many healers, to see how it works, can it be at all. And then it was so that over the years I noticed more and more, wow, I have an amazing ability to channel this energy and to transmit it, to work with other people. And so it just turned out that I slipped in more and more. And today I do a lot of healing. How much do you do a day? I also heard it in an interview. So thousands of years. On Wednesdays and Sundays I do healing meditations for 15 minutes. And there are now 6,000 people with me. And I do that so gladly because such touching things happen. Above all, I find it exciting. In the preparation for the interview I also did a meditation by you. And you have the feeling that you are connected with these people. The field is somehow timeless. I found that really nice. Yes, there are a lot of studies about it that also prove that people who meditate together influence something in their environment. Depending on the intention. And since the intention for me is always love, compassion, gratitude, we influence in such a meditation also all people who are in contact with us. The whole environment. So in the 80s there were many studies about it. Yes, also with criminality. Also with criminality. That was with the guru of the Beatles who initiated it. Really nice. How did it go on? Did you keep your company? Or did you change? Or did you say, I'll leave it all now? Because that's also the topic, right? You always see one or the other extreme. Exactly. In the end I still have the company. I'm just a little behind in my time. I'm still doing acquisitions, strategy for the company. I have a friend with Ryan who leads a team. I have many partners with Ryan to set it all up. And now I do what I enjoy. Find new customers. That's a company advice where it's about buying and selling companies. Or develop a little strategically. That's my stick horse. And yes, I keep doing that. And I don't see a difference to the other topics I do. I still do a lot of coaching or workshops or healing work. But there is no difference for me. Because I am who I am. And I am in this area the way I am. And I am in another area the way I am. The important thing for me is to be authentic. And what I live and experience also goes into the system. Into the system of the company. Into the system of the clients who are there. And so my day is completely always different. It can be that it starts with a company evaluation. Then comes coaching. Then comes healing meditation. Then comes where I do something for the foundation. So it's all always mixed together. And I don't have a problem with that either. It all fits together. Nice. The foundation. What exactly did you do there? For what? What is behind this foundation? So I had already many years after I started to work for me as a motto. Make other people happy and successful. And you can't prevent that you will be happy and successful yourself. And at the beginning there was maybe the thought that if I do something maybe something will come back. But after a few years it was clear to me to let go of all expectations. I never expect anything to come back when I give something. It's just giving. And life itself shows that this energy will automatically come back. But without expectations. And then I had when I founded the company I did a lot towards the homeless or people in need. I always gave away about 10% of what I earned. And at some point I thought to myself why don't I bundle the whole thing? Because my fable was always alternative medicine and personal growth. So I thought to myself I want to do projects that fit exactly and then I bundle it in the foundation. I also had a big transaction where I earned a lot of money and then I put almost half of the money into the foundation. I said now I want to stop with the 10%. Let's put everything in and then we'll see what we can do with it. And then every year I found a lot of projects in the field of holistic medicine or personal growth. Because those were my two building blocks where I was so excited. Holistic medicine, because I saw everything is possible. When I was with a friend at the healer. And personal growth, because I noticed through relaxation techniques, meditation and other topics you really get to the bottom. To the true self. And those were the two building blocks where I thought I want to share that with all people. I also saw you also have a summer camp. I thought that was so nice. Yes, that is part of the foundation. Also together with another foundation we do 35 camps already in the summer with chronically ill children. That's one basis. The second camps are with burn-out candidates where it's about mind, body, soul. But with the children it's always super touching because we as therapists have healers. We have a school doctor, a healer, and the people are seen in the camps, the children. And there are also unbelievable things happening. Epilepsy healing or no more ADHS after the camp. Or other topics where suddenly a child could see much more with the eye. So many touching things with chronic diseases that were all cut off from school medicine. We experienced that and it touches us every time to see how good it is for the children. When you give time, when you are attentive and listen. What is for you, especially with chronic diseases the key for healing? We also talked about that you also support MS patients. A protocol, the Coimbra protocol, that we also have here. Especially on this topic, where do you see the holistic connection? It fits ideally to my foundation because the Coimbra protocol is very, very strong for autoimmune diseases. The Coimbra protocol means I take high-dose D3 vitamins, but in the protocol there are other fields that are important. Nutrition, movement and attention. That means we are on different levels. For me holistic healing is always on different levels. It can be that I go to healing on one level. For example, if I have a symptom, a neurodermatitis, then I heal it. But a year later something else comes up. Because the body is a holistic system and not just matter. In my philosophy, which we also teach, there is the physical level, the mental level, as subconscious beliefs that always influence me in life. The emotional level, how do I deal with triggers on the outside so that I can absolutely stay in my inner center. The energetic level, it's about the energy system and consciousness, to know who or what I really am. The Coimbra protocol is one of the few I know that really covers several of these levels. Nutrition, movement, attention, D3 vitamins. That's why it fits as an ideal project, where I see that a lot of healing happens. When the human being thinks holistically. That was the connection. You also supported her in a study. What's going on there? What happened there? It's just an effectiveness study to see with various patients how it really works permanently. The previous successes are great. In one or two months we will publish the study, the interim results. There may be a little scream from school physicians that this can be possible. But that ultimately proves that there is really a lot possible, especially in the case of immune diseases, which are often considered incurable. Yes, I also believe that such a system will crash. Both in consciousness, of course. You also notice sometimes when you devote yourself to this topic of healing and you are really stuck very closely in school medicine. There is stress. Could you also observe that? What is it in people that really comes out of their mind? That happened to you too. Was that a transition from the moment you think outside the box that there is a process going on? Yes, it was a huge process for me at the moment. It's funny that we are here in this studio on Lake Constance. I always had as a comparison after I was in South America and at Weissheitslehre, I always said at home that I feel like I just swam in the Rhine before and knew everything about the left and right bank. Everything was very controlled and safe. Suddenly I'm in Lake Constance and I hardly see a bank in between. That's how it expanded because we only learn about matter to tackle all topics. But when you open the field and go a little more subtle about psyche, mind, body, soul, about all levels, so much new stuff opens up, so many wow effects that were there at the moment that I was excited to learn more about these topics. In the end, a whole new world opened up that was only dealt with in doubt. But the longer I moved the clearer it was for me that this is it. Because in the whole logical atmosphere, in the whole science, it is only based on matter and on what I can measure. Most of the time, matter is processed. You can measure energy, but I don't have a measuring device for the fine-material that is otherwise there. So in science it is considered to be like a decode. Or junk DNA, also beautiful. Exactly. Such things are so anchored in the system, and nobody wants to believe it because it is not provable because there is no measuring device. But I don't need a measuring device when I am sensitive to the body. Then there is no need for a measuring device on the outside. I was in the camps, and I had thousands of cases where there were dramatic improvements in various diseases that I personally experienced. Not only with me, but also with other healers, also in other places. And that alone gives so much certainty that everything is possible in every moment. But we don't really have it under control. There is simply a higher intelligence that works through us in this case. In the last months, years, I have been able to observe that the entrepreneurs also change their consciousness. Not all of them, but there are some who suddenly open up for spiritual topics or also work on the topic of consciousness. Did you also observe that? I also observed that because I am still in business counseling. I have different topics when I come into a conversation. And my favorite topic is stress because every entrepreneur is in stress. And when I hear the word fun, I can already see the resonance and then I say a little more about it. And at some point I realize that they are interested in getting deeper. I then talk about our burnout camps and why many managers slip into burnout, which often has to do with inner beliefs. I'm not good enough, I can't do it, I can't do it. And then they have to do all the more to prove that they can do it. And when I realize that it falls on fertile ground, I go deeper and deeper. And some of these entrepreneurs will also become clients who really look for the way into the depths. So it opens up more and more in this direction for me. How much leadership power opens up in this area? Relatively a lot, I would say. When I look at us now, we really have a leadership culture of love and compassion. And that's a completely different culture than when I look somewhere else where it's just about better, faster, further, more beautiful, and where it's just about creating more than the colleague and competition is there. It's not that we're not in competition, but we have a completely different setting in the background. That means our appearance is already different when we're in a transaction and have to bring two entrepreneurs together because they think, wow, together we can do more on this level for the company. And then there are a lot of situations where it gets stuck or where there's a little bit of a fight because it's a longer process. And in those situations, when we go in there with our peace and when we're there and really try to understand each other with their fears and their dreams, of course, a much better balance comes about in the end when you just think, I have to get the best out of it for myself. The result can't really be harmonious when one gets more than the other and everyone pulls. Yes, it also sounds a bit like in a marriage or separation where you really also I thought it was really nice, everyone should write the list what one or the other should get and the list can always be exchanged. Yes, that's nice too. Because then you have to look somehow, you don't know which side you get, but with both you have to be satisfied. Yes, nice. Win-win situations for everyone. Great, Steffen. Thank you so much for being here today. We still have a few interviews ahead of us. I'm really looking forward to it. And if you want to read up on the subject of Coimbra or want to learn something from you, where is the possibility? So a lot on my website. There I also have, under Mediathek Infopakete, you can download 20 topics that I currently from fear, depression, inner peace, awakening, enlightenment, so many topics that you can download for free. My YouTube channel has probably 80, 90 videos on every topic. Stress, fear, a lot of topics that you can download there, also on the topic of health. So the website is actually the main source. Great, thank you very much and hopefully see you again soon. Thank you. Dear viewers, wonderful to see and hear the ways of people, what opportunities there are when such great fields like healing open up and miracles are allowed to happen. I hope you can take a lot with you. Thank you for watching. See you soon. Bye.