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Do you think you'll ever be Queen?
No, I don't. No.
Why do you think that?
I'd like to be a Queen of people's hearts, in people's hearts.
But I don't see myself being Queen of this country.
I don't think many people would want me to be Queen.
Actually, when I say many people, I mean the establishment that I'm married into.
Because they've decided that I'm a non-starter.
Why do you think they've decided that?
Because I do things differently.
Because I don't go by a rule book.
Because I lead from the heart, not the head.
And albeit that's got me into trouble in my work, I understand that.
But someone's got to go out there and love people and show it.
It wasn't long after the wedding before you became pregnant.
What was your reaction when you learned that the child was a boy?
Enormous relief.
Because it had been quite a difficult pregnancy.
I hadn't been very well throughout it.
So by the time William arrived, it was great relief
because it was all peaceful again and I was well for a time.
Then I was unwell with postnatal depression,
which no one ever discusses postnatal depression.
You have to read about it afterwards.
And that in itself was a bit of a difficult time.
You'd wake up in the morning feeling you didn't want to get out of bed,
you felt misunderstood and just very, very low in yourself.
What was the family's reaction to your postnatal depression?
Well, maybe I was the first person ever to be in this family
who ever had a depression or was ever openly tearful.
And obviously that was daunting because if you've never seen it before,
how do you support it?
What effect did the depression have on your marriage?
Well, it gave everybody a wonderful new label.
It's Diana's unstable and Diana's mentally imbalanced.
And unfortunately that seems to have stuck on and off over the years.
The depression was resolved, as you say,
but it was subsequently reported that you suffered bulimia.
Is that true?
Yes, I did. I had bulimia for a number of years.
And that's like a secret disease you inflicted upon yourself
because your self-esteem is to low ebb
and you don't think you're worthy or valuable.
You fill your stomach up four or five times a day, some do it more,
and it gives you a feeling of comfort.
It's like having a pair of arms around you, but it's temporary.
Then you are disgusted at the bloatedness of your stomach
and then you bring it all up again.
And it's a repetitive pattern which is very destructive to yourself.
How often would you do that on a daily basis?
It depends on the pressures going on.
If I had been on what I call an away day,
where I'd been up part of the country all day,
I'd come home feeling pretty empty
because my engagements at that time would be to do with people dying,
people very sick, marriages, all that,
and I'd come home and it would be very difficult to know how to comfort myself
having comforted lots of other people.
Eating disorders, whether it be anorexia or bulimia,
show how an individual can turn the nourishment of the body
into a painful attack on themselves.
And they have, at their core, a far deeper problem than mere vanity.
The biography of the Prince of Wales, written by Jonathan Dimbleby,
which, as you know, was published last year,
suggested that you and your husband had very different outlooks,
very different interests. Would you agree with that?
No. I think we had a great deal of interest.
We both liked people, both liked country life, both loved children,
work in the cancer field, work in hospices.
But I was portrayed in the media at that time, if I remember rightly,
as someone, because I hadn't passed any O levels and taken any A levels,
I was stupid.
HIV does not make people dangerous to know.
So you can shake their hands and give them a hug.
Heaven knows they need it.
What's more, you can share their homes, their workplaces,
their playgrounds and their toys.
We all need to be alert to the special needs of those
whom age is the last straw in an already heavy burden
of discrimination and misfortune.
Around 1986, again according to the biography written by Jonathan Dimbleby
about your husband, he says that your husband renewed his relationship
with Mrs Camilla Parker Bowles.
Were you aware of that?
Yes, I was. But I wasn't in a position to do anything about it.
What evidence did you have that their relationship was continuing
even though you were married?
A woman's instinct is a very good one.
So you were isolated?
Mm-hm. Very much so.
Do you think Mrs Parker Bowles was a factor in the breakdown of your marriage?
Well, there were three of us in this marriage, so it was a bit crowded.
By the December of that year, as you say, you'd agreed to a legal separation.
Mm-hm.
What were your feelings at the time?
Deep, deep, profound sadness.
A fairy tale had come to an end and, most importantly,
our marriage had taken a turn, a different turn.
So we had struggled to keep it going, but obviously we'd both run out of steam.
And, in a way, I suppose it could have been a relief for us both
that we'd finally made our minds up.
But my husband asked for separation and I supported it.
It was not your idea? No. Not at all.
I come from a divorce background and I didn't want to go into that one again.
Do you think you'll ever be queen?
No, I don't. No.
Why do you think that?
I'd like to be a queen of people's hearts, in people's hearts,
but I don't see myself being queen of this country.
I don't think many people would want me to be queen.
Actually, when I say many people, I mean the establishment that I'm married into,
because they've decided that I'm a non-starter.
Why do you think they've decided that?
Because I do things differently, because I don't go by a rule book,
because I lead from the heart, not the head.
And albeit that's got me into trouble in my work, I understand that.
But someone's got to go out there and love people and show it.
Do you think the Prince of Wales will ever be king?
There was always conflict on that subject with him when we discussed it.
And I understood that conflict.
And being Prince of Wales produces more freedom now,
and being king would be a little bit more suffocating.
And because I know the character, I would think that the top job, as I call it,
would bring enormous limitations to him.
And I don't know whether he could adapt to that.
Would it be your wish that when Prince William comes of age
that he were to succeed the Queen rather than the current Prince of Wales?
My wish is that my husband finds peace of mind,
and from that follows other things, yes.