Asians with incredible resumes are still getting rejected from colleges that they probably should get into so let's talk about why
Yeah, I if I knew that my song have to be interesting and cool to a liberal white admissions white lady
I will raise him a little differently. All right guys. We got to talk about Stanley zone
His story is going viral right now because he had an amazing
Resume as far as the numbers the GPA the SAT even some of his correct
Extracurriculars as far as his computer science background goes
But he still got rejected not only from some top schools, but from just kind of some mid-tier school
Yeah, so he got rejected from MIT Carnegie Mellon Stanford Caltech that kind of makes sense, right?
Because a lot of people applying to those schools. They probably have great resumes. Let's be honest
However, he also got rejected from Cal Poly San Luis Obispo the University of Illinois
UC Davis UCSB
UCSD in where we went the University of Washington what he got rejected by they're the same college
I went to no, I would say his GPA 4.4 to weighted
1590 on the SAT so definitely he look I should have got it more
He started rabbit sign, which is a competitor to DocuSign but free
So basically he started his own app that people can use right now, right now before we feel too bad for him
He just got a job at Google. So shout out to him. Congrats, but
Regardless he probably should have gotten in more colleges David
We're gonna delve into the comment section of what a lot of people were saying and our own perspective
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Yeah, I mean, is it true that colleges in 2023 are looking at Chinese nerd Brainiac?
Computer science wants in on my computer science program
I got too many Chinese male nerds Brainiacs with like incredible resumes reject reject reject reject
Like they just don't want it even though it qualifies because it's like over represented man
I mean dude, even if he is a cookie cutter, let's just say he is a cookie cutter
He's probably like a pretty decent cookie cutter
So he should be able to get into more of these colleges now
My thing is that I think some of these colleges like, you know, and I'm not saying these are bad schools
But these are probably schools that he probably qualified to get into UC Davis Cal Poly
It's a baseball UCSB University of Washington University of Wisconsin. Um, he probably should have got into those but I'm saying like
Those schools might have been thinking. Oh
He'll get other opportunities. He'll get into other top schools. We don't need to give him a spot here
Maybe that's what they're thinking right? So then but if every school thinks like that, then he's not getting into any
Do you think though that it's true that a lot of the colleges did not think that he was gonna add to the social
Environment of the university and clearly let's be honest Andrew. He has a software engineering job. He's gonna be paid six figures his first year
He already started at Google
So he like Google doesn't care if he like played sports or was like
Speaks other languages, right or is like cool and adds to the social diversity of Google because he's gonna be working from home in front
Of three screens. They just want him to get the work done and add to the bottom line profitability of the company, right?
In a way the private company is going to recognize his immediate value even maybe more than a lot of college campuses are
But I still think it's wrong because I'm like is he not he part of diversity like you need also the nerds on campus
Along with maybe some not as nerdy people
I understand that but it doesn't really make a lot of sense to me
It's kind of weird and what message are we sending if we're rejecting kids like this from you know, just like UC Davis even
yeah, like how much does being a
Stereotypical Chinese brainiac that probably would not be the life of the party at happy hour. How much should that count against you?
I'm not saying like if the colleges want to make a case that it counts against them like a tiny tiny micro bit
I would still disagree with it
But I think that's within their realm of like, you know standard deviation, but if they're like, oh my gosh, he started rabbit sign
That's such a Chinese knockoff of DocuSign like typical Chinese
I mean, um, and what I want to hang out with Stanley tongue probably not to be honest
But is that the metric that colleges are judging people on in 2023?
We know like listen guys, you guys know we're not political like that
But if there's liberal white female admissions officers and they're like, I'm just looking for a little bit more spice here
Stanley tongue does not seem like somebody who's very like cool or anything like that
I'm like wait what since when the colleges care about that so much. Yeah, I mean, listen, I don't know exactly why he got
Rejected I mean some people speculate you'll see in the comments
They're speculating about his personal essay, you know
But I was like how bad is his personal essay like holy like there was red flags in it
But anyways, let's get in the comment section because I think that there is some other interesting analysis. Somebody said it's because he's Asian
They want more diversity. Nobody can tell me. Otherwise, I
Think him being Asian and maybe particularly having the Chinese name played a little against him
I don't know if that's the only reason I don't know. I'm not going to say that's the only reason but I think
in a way it's messed up right now, but a lot of people are looking at the zone name the song name the
Liu Lin, whatever Lee like, you know, when he had the mainland last
Extra what they don't want man. I don't know man. I would hate to think that that is more than 20% of the reason
I don't know
I just think that an
archetypical computer science Chinese male is so from Palo Alto
Which is the upper middle class like tech zone to be raised from that's where Jeremy Lin is from as well
Uh, that is like not what they want in their computer science program because they feel like that just weights it in
Favor of like probably the dominant archetype
I guess somebody says you are gonna see stuff like this way more commonplace moving forward the higher education bubble in the u.s
Is deflating college enrollment peaked in 2011 has been sliding off a cliff since 2025
I don't even know what that means to be honest. Somebody says transparency is fair because why of all these requirements?
That but why don't why is there no transparency and why somebody doesn't get in?
Yeah, so here's my thing and I am totally I'm cheering for transparency on why people don't get in to some extent because this
Why have all these requirements when you apply for college if you're not gonna tell them why they got rejected if they hit?
All those requirements, you know
I mean like maybe there should be a list of 30 different responses that more fit the reason why
He got rejected that the person who's rejecting them can choose from like a drop-down list like which reason is
Closest to why I what if the reason was just too many Chinese nerds
Then they need to even put like that needs to say like oh too much
fits into a
stereotype into our engineering department or something like you got to say something because this kid is wondering here and this is his future at
Stake and he spent so much of his life in academia caring about his grades
And then now he's sitting there wondering like yo
I got rejected from like 14 out of the 16 schools
I applied for how somebody said glad it worked out for him because he ended up getting a six-figure job at Google right out of
High school. However, I feel awful for the kids who do everything right from K to 12 and don't get any of the cut get
Get into any of the colleges that they want to yeah
So you need to start telling kids to like what be cool. I mean, he already did some extracurricular
Does he have to be varsity sports like all three years too as well as creating his own app as well as a high GPA?
as well as a high SAT like
What just tell people what the metrics are what you're looking for? Yeah
I mean to be honest from judging from the interviews
I watched of Stanley Chung
He may not have had the best essays because he does he's not gonna have an essay filled with like hardship or anything
Specifically up regarding identity because Palo Alto is heavily Asian and it's heavily more high-income
So they probably wanted a little bit more like struggle, man
But I just think having all those schools reject them is crazy
Somebody said I don't think grades are the only factor anymore. You need to play sports. You need to be in school related groups
You need to get into internships. It's always been like that to be honest
Somebody was saying he literally had a startup in actual profitable company his sophomore year
Sports and other stuff cannot compare to that. Somebody said yeah, but it just didn't get him in because like that's not what they're looking for
Yeah, and I'll tell you this listen if you're gonna reject him you need to like I don't know
Someone needs to tell him like hey Stanley you got rejected from MIT
But you should just go on and pursue a career right now
Because you could go work in the industry, right? Cuz you're saying that yes or no answer
It's like so discouraging right like it's it's not really providing any sort of context for like oh, yeah
You'd be better off getting a six-figure job right now isn't stacking your income
It is not the admissions office job to tell you what you should do with your future
I understand that but I think it is fair that they give a little explanation or
Someone in his circle
Maybe it's his dad who was like pushing him to go get the job at Google or maybe someone at Google that day knew through
A family friend was like hey Stanley, uh, what if I just throw your name into you know, my boss, you know
Maybe maybe you could join the team or something like yeah
I mean that's never gonna happen
But I see what you're saying somebody's saying I'd change the ethnicity of my kid
momentarily just to get into college because a lot of white kids not all obviously our
legacy or have family connections to get into college or get into companies and then a lot of black and Latino people have affirmative action
Asians got a study 200% harder just to get treated like an unlikable brainiac nerd that is not gonna add to campus culture
All right. I think that this is a little bit
Exaggerated but it's essentially there's some truth to it. All right. So how about this?
You if you have a I hate to say this if you have a typical
Nerdy name Stanley tone. What if you just added don't Leah to the last name and you just spelled it
Z
O-n-g-l-i-a and it's like it's not really a different ethnicity
you're not actually lying about who you are, but you're just making your name like like just
Don't click the declare. Yeah, don't declare your ethnicity
But they're not supposed to be obviously discriminating against you for being Asian, which is crazy that that's already been ruled
But I'm saying like I guess if you add a bunch of like different letters to your name
Would it even like increase your chances? Yeah, I mean it's sort of like the NBA or NFL
Imagine if they discriminated against like black American players because they were just you know
Making up 70 75 percent of the NBA or NFL, but they're just like oh, yeah
We just need it's like there's not enough diversity amongst like the looks of the people, right? But it's like yeah, I get it though
Those are also sports. It's not education. So I do think that that's a valid argument as well
Somebody's saying tech is blessed where you don't see formal education
But you where you don't need a formal education necessarily
But just a skill set and a mindset candidates in tech have to pass the grueling interviews process
Which mirrors an elite university method but with a whiteboard where you just have to do the work in front of the people
So it is true that ultimately
Do you think Stanley Tung was more suited to just get a six-figure job out of high school and ultimately like?
But it's kind of crazy because you're denying them the opportunity of like college, which is pretty fun
Yeah, and I mean that would help him develop in certain ways
I'm sure working at Google is gonna help him develop in a different way. He's developed bank account for sure
No, I mean develop. I mean being in a work environment if he goes into the office. He's around older people
he doesn't have to deal with the
College things but maybe he's gonna miss those too. And those are really interesting
Somebody said what a nerd and someone said he's gonna be your landlord in the USA in the future
I mean, um, you know, it's funny because America is very anti nerd. Would you agree?
Yeah, and it's so funny because for decades now we've been saying oh, well our students math scores are too low our students
Reading level is too low
And then here's these kids who fall into that group of kids that are leading the way as far as math science
Computer skills and then you're not showing them love at the colleges
Like what message are the colleges sending by rejecting him? Yeah. No, it's true
That's nice. It's true because those are the areas that America is statistically in a macro level weak at look
Let's think about it in a dating sense. All right, David, you know, you're on the dating apps and you're like, hey
You're trying to write your profile. I'm a nice guy. You got a picture with a dog
You're just like you got a good smile. You look trustworthy
you got maybe a couple mutual friends with this person and and then the person still
Like you're just trying to make yourself as good as possible
But that person keeps rejecting you or a bunch of people keep rejecting you. Obviously, you're gonna second-guess why?
You know, you're like wait wait are like good guys getting treated like this like what's going on?
Like I don't understand, you know what I mean?
so what what message are they you're gonna second-guess the
Outcomes of the system of what you've been told
Yeah, you're gonna you're gonna you're gonna question the whole metric system of why how you're being graded, you know
And yeah, it's weird last comment and or somebody said this is really why I love America a genius Asian kid in the u.s
I can still chase my dreams and possibly even sue if my dreams are halted whereas genius Asian kids in Asia
Ah, man, it's depressive AF screw my dream
I'm just gonna work for my parents company as a last resort and I'm broken
So they're kind of just talking about the way systems work over there versus over here
I do agree that and this is like kind of on a deviation from what we've been talking about
America has more like backup plans, right? Like he can go directly to work for industry and things like that
Yeah, I mean listen, there's plenty of college dropouts and people who didn't go to college that made world-changing companies
But I think my opinion is that he probably shouldn't have been rejected from all those schools. That's no no
Sure, what's your overall takeaway David?
I would say that this is kind of just where we're at in 2023 because like these upper-middle class
Asian nerds and let's be honest a lot of them disproportionately are Chinese, you know, we went to a Chinese church growing up
I've seen it over and over again, you know, I've seen the whole spectrum but like yeah
This is a pretty significant portion of the Chinese population to be honest
And it's like um, man, it's like it's just viewed as something that's so whack
But nobody can explain why it's whack
You know what? I mean? People are just like, oh, that's not cool
But that's what America needs to remain competitive on a geopolitical
I would rather if you're getting rejected for being a whack nerd if that's the reason why I think people need to say it
Because how are people supposed to understand why you're rejecting them? If you don't tell them should should Asian nerd families
Let's be honest, and I don't use that word derogatory
Like what should they
Focus Asian families. Yeah. Yeah, cuz his if you guys look at the interview like his dad was also I believe a comp sci major
So I'm saying we kind of come from like not not to the extent of him
But a similar type of family and it's like should they raise their kids differently?
Because they are kind of raising their kids
I mean he works at Google now. I think he's actually on his on a path to being successful
But he was probably gonna be a millionaire to be honest like lightly robbed of certain opportunities. They probably deserve not
It's not the worst in life. He's good. It's hard for people to cry for yeah
I'm not crying for him, but I am like, well, this is weird. You know, I'm not crying for him. His life is fine
I get it. He's gonna be a rich nerd. He's gonna be a rich nerd
He has plenty opportunities, but it seems tall whatever like but I'm just like yeah, this is weird
I I feel his pain a little bit and I'm just like, you know, so yeah
I mean
Anyway guys, this is going viral in the Asian community right now. Also outside of the Asian community
It kind of just speaks to like where everything is at culturally. I'm not blaming anybody
I'm not even mad about it, but it is interesting to go
Oh, yeah, man
If you're from that certain type of family background, you could put
115% of your effort your whole life to getting this outcome and they're just basically saying yeah
Too many of you guys got raised in this type of nerdy nerdy family. All right, everybody
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