Department Press Briefing with Principal Deputy Spokesperson Vedant Patel, at the Department of State, on November 7, 2023.
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MR RATHKE.
Good afternoon, everybody.
Happy Tuesday.
I do not have anything off the top.
Sean, do you want to kick us off?
QUESTION.
Sure.
Could I just start with American citizens and permanent residents and others who are
leaving Gaza?
I know there's a new figure that's been given of 400 who are out.
Could you just explain a little bit more about that, the timeframe?
Are there still coming out?
Have there been people coming out today?
And how many – presumably there are some.
How many are still left, as far as you know?
MR RATHKE.
Thanks, Sean.
So, yes, we have assisted more than 400 U.S. citizens, lawful permanent residents, and
other individuals to be able to depart Gaza.
We continue to work in partnership with the Government of Egypt and Israel towards safe
passage for more U.S. citizens.
We also work with other immediate family members and U.S. lawful permanent residents, and we
encourage those whose names may have appeared on previous lists that have been published
by the Palestinian General Authority for crossings and borders to make their way to the border
and attempt to exit.
It's our understanding that individuals whose names had been on previous lists published
can present themselves and should be able to cross.
This, of course, is a very fluid and quickly evolving situation.
There are three entities involved in controlling access to the border crossing – Israel,
Egypt, and Hamas – and we're continuing to work with Egypt and Israel to ensure that
American citizens who have indicated a desire to depart are able to do so.
As you've seen over the past number of days, the American citizens have been able to exit,
and we expect this number to continue to grow.
Sure.
If I could just pursue that.
Sure.
You said that more – safe passage for more afterward.
The Secretary, I believe it was a week ago, on the Hill, gave a figure of 1,000, including
citizens, green card holders, relatives.
Doing the math, is it safe to say 600 are still waiting, or is that – or the figures
have developed?
I mean, that is – if you were to do basic arithmetic, that is, of course, the number
that you would get to.
But I, again, just want to – what caveat – as we have in any circumstance that involves
American citizens in any part of the world, we, of course, do not ask American citizens
to register when they travel and so on and so forth.
So I just want to – I'm hesitant to provide a pinpoint metric, as, of course, this is
an ongoing and fluid situation.
Sure.
Yeah.
I have more, but if people want to – you're safe.
Do you have an update on the aid trucks that have been able to go through Rafa?
I do have an update on additional humanitarian.
So as of November 7th today, approximately 526 trucks carrying humanitarian supplies
have entered Gaza through the Rafa crossing, as reported by the UNOCHA.
Okay.
And then if I could ask about some comments that Netanyahu made yesterday about who should
govern Gaza when fighting is over.
He said he thinks Israel, for an indefinite period, will have overall security responsibility.
What's your take on those comments?
Have you sought any clarification from the Israeli Government about what they meant by
that?
Do you have any concerns?
So we, of course, engage with our partners in the Israeli Government about a numerous
number of things, especially currently as this situation continues to be ongoing.
I would refer you to the prime minister's office for further elaboration on that particular
quote.
Our viewpoint is that Palestinians must be at the forefront of these decisions, and Gaza
is Palestinian land and it will remain Palestinian land.
And generally speaking, we do not support reoccupation of Gaza, and neither does Israel.
Secretary Blinken was fairly clear about that during his travels as well.
But it's important to note that at the same time we agree with Israel that there is no
returning to the October 6th status quo.
Israel and the region must be secure, and Gaza should and can no longer be a base from
which to launch terror attacks against the people of Israel or anyone else.
And so we're working with partners on various scenarios, on interim governance, on security
parameters, on security situations in Gaza for once this crisis recedes.
But I'm not going to get ahead of that process.
We'll get into it from here.
Have you been in touch with his office since his comments came out?
As I said, we are engaging with our partners in Israel around the clock on a number of
issues.
I'm just not going to get into the specifics of the day-to-day diplomacy.
Okay.
Go ahead.
Thank you.
Can I follow up on the aid trucks, please?
Sure.
The number of aid trucks getting into Gaza seem to be increasing every day.
And since the crossing closed for a time over the weekend, it seems like there's been a
significant curtailment both in people coming out and aid going in.
The Administration has voiced its frustration with the amount of aid going in as being insufficient.
So can you provide us any insight into what the slowdown of the delivery of aid is attributable
to?
Well, on the – first, to take a step back on the issue of basic math, the number that
I'm providing today is an increase from the number that I provided yesterday that
was reflective of the total since November 6th.
Broadly, though, there are a number of issues at play here, primarily being this is not
a crossing that the United States controls.
We are engaged directly in diplomacy with our partners in Israel, with our partners
in Egypt, to ensure that aid can flow.
We are working appropriately with the Israelis to develop inspection mechanisms that would
allow trucks to move into Gaza quickly while still undergoing full inspection.
The Secretary raised this during his visit.
This is an area that also has been rattled with blackouts and other instances that have
made both the entrance of aid and for the voluntary departure of civilians to somehow
– to at some instances be slower than not just the United States but anybody would want
in this circumstance.
But that is exactly why Special Envoy Satterfield is in the region, engaging in diplomacy, working
with the Israelis and the Egyptians on this to ensure that humanitarian aid can get into
Gaza.
And simultaneously, we are working around the clock on the consular piece of this so
that American citizens and their family members and legal permanent residents who choose to
depart are able to do so in an appropriate manner.
Of course, no one is trying to indicate that the rate and the clip at which these have
been happening have been satisfactory.
We think more aid needs to be getting in.
We've been very clear about that.
We think American citizens who are interested in departing need to be able to do so swiftly,
and we're working around the clock to ensure that.
Okay.
And acknowledge that it is an increase of 50 that you're citing today.
The goal had been 100 trucks while still recognizing that number was insufficient.
Is 100 trucks a day still the goal?
I'm not going to put a specific metric on it, Rahul.
Our goal at this point is doing everything we can to ensure that RAFA opens at appropriate
intervals to allow for the influx of humanitarian aid into Gaza as well as for the safe departure
of American citizens, LPRs, and eligible family members.
If I may, one question on hostages.
Sure.
Yeah.
So U.S. officials have said that the hostage releases that we've seen to date were sort
of pilot cases to see if the pause for release system could work.
Are we to take from the fact that no additional hostages since that initial release have been
made to – as an indication that that system doesn't work and won't pave the way for
the release of additional hostages?
I'm not going to get into the specifics of diplomacy beyond saying that the release of
additional hostages has, of course, been a key and evergreen goal of ours since October
7th.
The Secretary has been incredibly clear about that, not just with his Israeli counterparts
but also any country in the region who may have a relationship with Hamas or who may
have influence over Hamas, and has been sending a very clear message that all these hostages
need to be released.
It's exactly why this administration has been clear-eyed about its call for a humanitarian
pause so conditions can be created that could potentially lead to additional hostage releases,
that could potentially lead to an influx of additional humanitarian aid as well.
So this is something that we're continuing to pursue.
And just quickly, is there an update on the hostage negotiations that have been ongoing?
I don't have any updates to offer at this time.
I have one more on the reaction within this building, if you'd like to go around the
room.
Yeah, why don't I – I can come back to you.
That's great.
Jalil, go ahead.
Thank you very much, Mr. Putin.
This next question I want to dedicate it to –
Is it on the region or is it off topic?
The topic.
Okay.
I will come back to you then.
Okay, great.
Michel, go ahead.
I'm not aware, first, of an assassination attempt on President Mahmoud Abbas in the
West Bank.
Thanks for your question, Michel.
So I saw those public reports as soon as – right before I came out here, so I unfortunately
don't have any specifics to offer on that.
I'm saying this solely on public reporting.
We are continuing to pay attention, and as we have more information from the United States'
perspective, we will certainly share that.
From the public reporting, it seems that President Abbas himself was not harmed.
But again, as we get more information and as the situation develops and we have anything
additional to share, we'll make sure to share it.
And my second question is on the attacks on the U.S. forces in Syria and Iraq that have
now been 40 attacks in this region since October 17th.
President Biden, Vice President Harris, Secretary Blinken, and other officials threatened Iran
and its proxies not to do it.
They have done it.
What's next?
So, Michel, I don't think you need to look any further than how we have tackled the threat
that has been Iran over the course of this entire administration.
We have used a combination of deterrence, pressure, and diplomacy to counter Iran's
destabilizing activities.
I will also note that we sent a very loud and direct deterrence message to Iran about
our willingness to vigorously protect our personnel and our interests.
And last month, on October 26th, the U.S. military carried out strikes against two
facilities in eastern Syria used by the IRGC and affiliated groups.
These precision self-defense strikes were a response to a series of ongoing and largely
unsuccessful attacks against U.S. personnel in Iraq and Syria, as you said.
So we've been very clear that, one, we will take any steps possible to protect our personnel
and our interests in the region.
But additionally, we have been very clear to countries in the region that we are incredibly
keen on ensuring that this conflict does not spread.
And in the matter of Iraq, that's something that we raised directly with Prime Minister
Soudani on Secretary Blinken's trip.
And the prime minister has also called these attacks unacceptable and has committed to
taking whatever possible steps they can to stop these attacks.
QUESTIONS FROM THE FLOOR
Okay, go ahead.
QUESTIONS FROM THE FLOOR
Thank you for that.
Yesterday, the Islamic Resistance in Iraq, they attacked Erbil airport, and some civilian
flights were canceled because of these attacks, because these attacks – it is true that
they are saying that we are targeting the U.S. bases in the region, but they are endangering
the people in the region, the civilian people, the civilian airport, especially in Erbil,
the Kurdistan region of Iraq.
And today, the president of the Kurdistan region said that this is extremely dangerous
development in the region, and we call to some solution and to hold those groups responsible.
What engagements do you have with the Iraqi and with the Kurdish Government to prevent
these attacks, to not put danger to the civilians and the people who are living in the region?
Well, I'm glad you raised that.
The impact on civilians, of course, in this context, but especially in these attacks that
are being carried out in Iraq is, of course, of importance to us, and one of the aspects
that we have raised directly with the Government of Iraq.
It's something the Secretary raised directly with Prime Minister Soudani.
I'm not going to get into the specifics, but we – the prime minister himself called
these attacks unacceptable, and it's something that we're going to continue to engage on
with the Iraqi Government to take whatever steps we can to hold the perpetrators accountable.
And one more question.
Sure.
And can you – what – where are you in the – in your discussion with the Israeli
Government on the humanitarian pause, and could you give us – speak about this humanitarian
pause?
What do you mean by that?
On the what?
Humanitarian pause.
Again, and I touched a little bit about this yesterday, our goal – our end goal here,
I think, is threefold.
It is, first, we want conditions created that will allow for the entrance of additional
humanitarian aid into Gaza.
We want the conditions to be such that will allow potentially for additional hostages
to be released by Hamas.
And we also want the conditions to be such that Hamas is not able to use such a time
to regroup, grow stronger, position itself in a way to further attack the people of Israel,
to conduct further terrorist attacks.
So we can call it whatever we want, but that is what we are looking at and those are the
end goals that we are trying to achieve through our diplomacy, through these engagements that
we're having, not just with our Israeli counterparts but with partner countries in
the region as well.
Arabia, go ahead.
Thank you.
There are some alarming reports coming out of Gaza with regards to shortage of – fuel
shortages.
Many hospitals announced they won't be operational without new fuel supplies.
Do you have any updates on the U.S. efforts on getting fuel inside Gaza?
Yesterday, you said the U.S. continues to work on this, but do you have any updates
since yesterday?
I don't have any specific updates for you.
Again, we recognize that fuel is urgently needed in Gaza and the critical role that
it plays in both the access to free water, clean water treatment, desalination, and things
like that.
We also understand the critical role that it can play in ensuring some basic needs and
protecting public health, and that's exactly why Special Envoy Satterfield is discussing
ways with Israeli authorities, with Egyptian authorities, donors, and aid agencies on what
mechanisms exist to enhance the flow of fuel into Gaza to benefit the civilians.
But I don't have any updates for you.
Go ahead.
Do you have any information on Israel specifically turning away trucks that have tried to enter
upon Israel's inspection, including because they were carrying fuel or any other reasons?
I don't have any specifics reports to share, but what I can just say on the inspection
mechanism – and I touched a little bit on this – is that that's something that
we're working diligently with our Israeli partners on.
It's something that the Secretary raised during his travels as well.
We're working with them to develop additional inspection mechanisms that we hope will allow
trucks and aid to enter Gaza more quickly and more efficiently, and we're hoping we'll
be able to talk more about that in the coming days and weeks.
Alex, go ahead.
Thanks, John.
Very quickly on the Secretary's trip there, I want to get you out of Middle East briefly.
I know you will be moved back anyway.
I think there's quite a lot of other questions on the region, Alex.
So if this is not on the region, I'm going to have to come back to you.
Yeah.
Just very quickly on the trip there, come back to me on Ukraine and Russia.
Okay.
The Secretary, when he met with Turkish officials, did he get an assurance that Zubin would become
NATO member by the end of this month?
That's exactly the kind of question.
It's not on the region, Alex.
I will take it because you just asked.
Look, we have been very clear about our viewpoint on Sweden's accession to NATO.
We have long felt that they are ready to be a NATO ally, and we think that the agreements
that were made under the Madrid summit have been met.
And so we're going to continue to work and let this process play out.
I have no doubt that it was something that was discussed, but I'm not going to get beyond
the readout.
Does the Secretary have a clear understanding of why it is taking longer?
Again, I'm just not going to get into the specifics beyond that.
Sam, come back to me.
I'll let you end up patiently.
Go ahead.
Thank you.
The Group Democracy for the Arab World Now, founded by slain journalist Khashoggi, put
out a recent statement charging that there's a grotesque hoax by the Biden administration,
not just greenlighting, but bankrolling ethnic cleansing.
They specifically cite parts of the supplemental that the administration has sought that fund
the proposed humanitarian aid to Palestinians who have been displaced from Gaza into neighboring
countries.
And they also highlight the fact that the Israeli government appears imminently planning
a permanent – a move of Palestinians permanently from Gaza to Egypt, and they cite a leaked
Israeli intelligence ministry report along those lines.
So –
What do you have on that?
I –
I realize that earlier in your comments you seemed to distance yourself from this notion.
You said that it was Palestinian land and that you were opposed to this, or that was
the implication of your remarks.
And now you're – there it is.
You're asking for the money to do it.
So let me just be clear about a couple things here, Sam.
First, we continue to provide support to Palestinian refugees through the UN, through UNRWA, and
the U.S. is going to also continue to support efforts for safe passage for civilians in
Gaza seeking safety.
As it relates to our foreign policy, the U.S. does not support any forced relocation
of Palestinians outside of Gaza.
It is not a policy we're pursuing.
It is not something that is on the table.
So why are you asking for funding for it?
I don't – I don't understand your question.
This group, Democracy for the Arab World Now, founded by Khashoggi, says that you're asking
for funding for new Palestinians, not just displaced from 48, not just displaced from
67, but displaced from this conflict, from Gaza into Egypt and other neighboring countries.
I think it's an open secret.
So Israel has been attempting –
So we are not engaging in any situation in which Egyptian land would be leased.
I've not seen that letter, nor am I going to get into the specifics of the funding request
to Congress from up here, but forced relocation is not something that we are looking at or
is on the table or a policy that we support.
I'm asking you about your funding.
Excuse me, Vedant, thank you.
How long of a pause in the ceasefire does the State Department and President Biden have
in mind for Israel?
And a brief follow-up.
We're not calling for a ceasefire.
That's not policy we're pursuing.
Okay.
You've been following.
Why aren't Secretary of State Blinken and President Biden asking Hamas and Hezbollah
for a pause in their firing of rockets on Israeli communities?
I don't even know where to begin with that talk.
We have – since the onset of this conflict, we have condemned Hamas for their destructive
terrorist attacks on the Israeli people on October 7th.
We have also been incredibly clear to Hezbollah and any other malign actors that they should
not use this opportunity to widen this conflict.
And when we're talking about a humanitarian pause, what we are talking about is conditions
that simultaneously ensure that Hamas is not in a position in which it can regroup, re-strengthen
itself, position itself in a way to further conduct attacks on the Israeli people, while
also creating conditions that perhaps will allow for the further provision of humanitarian
aid into Gaza that will perhaps allow conditions that other hostages can be released as well.
Go ahead.
I've taken two of your questions.
Go ahead.
Thank you.
Just to follow up on Sam, in March 2021, Secretary Blinken accused China of the crime of genocide
for its alleged treatment of the Uighur minority, but he didn't accuse them of killing on
any mass scale or forcible transfer.
Now we see with Israel's military assault on Gaza, something like one out of every 200
people in the Gaza Strip has been eliminated, over 4,000 children killed.
The Ministry of Intelligence, as Sam pointed out, in Israel has published a blueprint for
the forced transfer of the entire Palestinian population to Egypt.
We have the intent to commit genocide expressed at the highest level of the Israeli government,
including Netanyahu himself, referring to the Palestinian population as Amalek, the
biblical Amalek.
So I wonder, you know, when you're accusing one country of genocide without accusing them
of mass killing, and then blocking ceasefires to enable another country's military assault,
what metric are you using to determine genocide, or is this just political rhetoric?
It's certainly not political rhetoric.
The department, and I talked a little bit about this yesterday, we have a rigorous process
in place for evaluating whether something constitute as genocide or not.
And that is true in any country that that situation might be being looked at.
That is not a term that we have assessed pertains to this current conflict.
We are, of course, monitoring the evolving situation and are examining facts as they
develop.
This continues to be an incredibly challenging and fraught situation, but it's also important
to remember that Hamas bears responsibility for sparking this war.
They have brought this tragic war to Gaza.
Okay, well, President Biden has accused the Russian government of genocide for its actions
in Ukraine, where in two years it has killed as many civilians as Israel has killed in
one month in the Gaza Strip.
So how do you account for that disparity where you're assisting one country and accusing
the other of genocide, when the country you're assisting has systematically killed so many
more people in one month?
Those circumstances are totally and completely not the same.
And to make a comparison like that, candidly, is incredibly inappropriate.
We have been – please don't interrupt me.
We have been – we have raised directly with the Israeli Government about the need to distinguish
between Hamas terrorists and Palestinian civilians.
This is something that the Secretary has raised directly on his travels.
He – we even laid out that we believe that there are commitments that can be made additionally
on dealing with protecting civilian life more effectively, and we're watching very
closely to make sure that happens.
But you've referred to Palestinian civilians as human shields.
Doesn't that blur the distinction between civilians and militants?
I am not – we have not referred to Palestinian civilians as human shields.
We have said – we have said – I sat here and heard Matthew Miller refer to them as
human shields.
We have said that Hamas is using Palestinian civilians as human shields.
Wouldn't that be – That is not hyperbole.
That is something that we have seen Hamas do as they continue to integrate themselves
into key civilian infrastructure across Gaza.
Wouldn't that be blurring the distinction between civilians and combatants if you say
Hamas is using civilians as human shields?
Wouldn't that be in some ways justifying the killing of civilians because they happen
to be in the way in their homes?
We are not justifying – we are – there is no one in this administration that is justifying
killing of civilians.
Any civilian life loss is incredibly troubling, heartbreaking to us.
Any number above zero is deeply troubling to us.
What we are doing is we are working with our Israeli partners to ensure that steps can
be taken to minimize the impact on civilian life.
And we also have – believe that there is a moral imperative, there is a strategic imperative
to take steps to minimize loss of civilian life.
I'm going to work through them.
I've answered, like, four of your questions.
You could – yeah.
Yeah.
On the genocide question, you said you're monitoring the evolving situation and examining
the facts as they develop.
Are you confirming that the U.S. is examining Israeli bombardment of Gaza to see if its
actions constitute –
No, that's not – I did not say that to indicate that there is some active, ongoing
process.
This is par for the course as we observe conditions and circumstances around the world.
So there's no active –
Correct.
– process looking at this specifically?
Correct.
Given – just to follow on that briefly – given the circumstances, is one likely?
I'm just not going to get into internal deliberative processes that exist at SAIT.
I want to – is it okay if I go to Sean, and then I can come back to you before you're
done?
Sure.
Go ahead.
It's related, so –
Okay.
Another aspect of this.
The killings of journalists in the conflict.
There's a Committee to Predict Journalists report, I believe, out yesterday which is
saying that 37 journalists have been killed, the vast majority of the Palestinians, in
this conflict.
I think another one today.
The Secretary General of the United Nations said that this is the deadliest conflict for
journalists in quite some time.
To what extent is this – is there a concern about the killing of journalists in terms
of ways to avoid this and in terms of why this is actually happening?
I would say, of course, Sean, that the impact of this conflict on journalists and our concern
of journalists being among that could potentially be targeted when it comes to civilian casualties
because that, of course, continues to be a tantamount and something that we are paying
attention to and have raised with actors in the region about this as well.
It's been raised actively in terms of –
When we talk about – when we talk about ensuring that civilians are not placed in
harm's way, of course journalists are part of that, and we continue to believe that civilians,
including journalists, that steps need to be taken to ensure that they are not impacted
within this conflict, that they are not targeted or killed in this conflict.
And just finally, is there any concern that there has been a deliberate targeting of some
of the journalists?
I'm not aware, nor have I seen any reporting to indicate as such.
Go ahead.
About this building, I just wanted to ask you because there have been multiple reports
about the response and maybe in some cases the outcry within this building about the
U.S. policy approach to this conflict.
So first, can you say whether you are aware of the formal submission of one or more dissent
channel cables by American diplomats?
And then secondly, if you could speak more broadly to how leadership here is responding
to those with deep expertise in this building who believe that America's foreign policy
here may be ill-conceived.
So first, I'm just not going to speak to the specifics of the dissent channel out of
respect to the integrity of the channel.
What I will just say is that this is something that has been available to employees since
the Vietnam War, and we are proud that the Department has an established procedure for
employees to articulate policy disagreements directly to senior department principals in
this building without fear of retribution.
I will also say just broadly that we understand and we expect people in our workforce to have
different personal beliefs, different beliefs about what U.S. foreign policy should be.
And in fact, we think that that is one of the strengths of this government.
And it's one of the strengths of this department in our ability to engage with people who have
different opinions.
And we encourage individuals to continue to make those opinions known.
It's also important to remember that the president is who sets this policy, and we
all up here at least serve at his pleasure.
But we encourage everyone, even when they disagree with our policy, to make their leadership
known.
The dissent channel is one of those mechanisms.
I will also note that we continue to take the responsibility to our workforce incredibly
seriously and recognize that this is an incredibly taxing and trying time.
This conflict is incredibly fraught.
We have, like any workforce, ensured that the workforce knows what mental health resources
are available to them in this trying time.
And I will also just add that throughout this deliberative process as it relates to U.S.
foreign policy, we have engaged directly, the Secretary has, with those who may have
dissenting opinions or different opinions from what current U.S. foreign policy is.
That's democracy.
That's part of the process.
Just very quickly, because apart from the articulation of opinion or grievance as it
may be, are there people with expertise in policy whose views have been incorporated
as the situation has unfolded?
I'm just not going to read out the specifics of what a deliberative process or what the
interagency process is like.
There are, of course, the ways that decisions are made in any administration involve the
inputs of a lot of people across a lot of different agencies with a lot of differing
equities.
Ultimately, though, it is the President who sets the policy.
But simultaneously, we have a number of mechanisms at our disposal available to the workforce
for them to share their dissenting viewpoints, whether it be the dissent channel cable, whether
it be discussing directly with department leadership, which there have been opportunities
to do so as well.
Alex, go ahead.
I'll come back to you.
Thanks, Josh.
A couple of questions, non-Middle East-related, if you don't mind.
Sure.
Ukraine.
I'm sure you have seen multiple reports over the weekend that the U.S. is pushing Russia
– Ukraine to dialogue with Russia.
There have been speculations being built around it.
Should I give you a chance to clear the air?
Sure.
Have you guys done anything like similar to that?
So any negotiations, Alex, are up to Ukraine.
And as we have said a number of times before, nothing should happen about Ukraine without
Ukraine.
We are not aware of any conversations with Ukraine about negotiations outside of the
peace formula structure that you've already seen a number of engagements take place on.
But it continues to be incredibly clear, Alex, that the Kremlin has no interest in negotiating
or ending this war, and we are committed to supporting our Ukrainian partners.
Thanks so much.
Moving to South Caucasus, if you don't mind.
Sure.
I know that Matt put out a tweet about what was going on in Georgia – Georgian citizen
was killed by Russian – I don't want to use occupation terrorists.
My question is, the country has been ruled by a party that has been promoting Russian
propaganda for a long time.
Are you in a position to step in and defend Georgia should Georgia become a target for
Russia?
Alex, I'm not going to get ahead of anything that happens.
That would be incredibly inappropriate.
But I will just echo what was in the tweet yesterday, which is that we condemn that killing.
And it is another example of the destruction that is ongoing, that's being caused by
Russia's occupation of Georgia's sovereign territory and elsewhere.
And it's something that we'll continue to monitor and call out as well.
Thank you.
One more question.
Armey Azerbaijan.
Yeah.
We were told in September in this building by senior officials that both Al-Jarrah and
Armenia had agreed to send their officials to Washington for another round of meeting.
Now we are – we have seen lately they are engaged in carousel of phone shopping.
Is Washington still an option for next round of negotiations?
Of course.
Look, Alex, outside of everything that, of course, is going on in the world that often
and sometimes takes up a lot of the oxygen in this room, peace between those two countries
continues to be a priority for us, for Secretary Blinken, and it's something that the department
will continue to engage towards.
You had your hand up.
Then I'll come back to you, Sean.
Go ahead.
Thank you.
So two questions regarding China and South Korea, if you don't mind.
South Korea is the key U.S. security ally, and the State Department has been very clear
in raising concerns over China's human rights practices as well as its economic coercion
toward other countries.
So the State Department has also in three different human rights and religious freedom
reports highlighted a particular issue in which the Chinese embassy in South Korea has
been using its economic leverage to pressure theaters in South Korea to try to block performances
by an American company, Shingyun Performing Arts.
So it's an American arts company whose classical Chinese dance shows have been banned in China
because they include pieces portraying human rights persecution in China.
So my question is, does it remain a concern by the State Department that in such incidents
like this, China is using its economic pressure to influence the freedom of expression in
an ally country?
Broadly, I would say it, of course, continues to remain of concern.
The PRC has a very clear track record of using economic coercion and otherwise in a wide
array of countries, not just necessarily the ROK.
But this is, of course, something that we're going to continue to address in close partnership
with the ROK, with Japan, with other countries in the Indo-Pacific as well.
Sure.
I have a follow-up regarding Secretary Blinken's trip later this week.
So in addition to, of course, talking about countering threats from North Korea, does
Secretary Blinken also plan to address countering China's regional influence in his meeting
with South Korean counterparts, of course, like you said, meeting with other Indo-Pacific
partners as well?
You've heard me say this before, or I will say those in this room have heard me say this
before.
Any aspect of our foreign policy, whether it be the Secretary's current presence at
the G7 or his soon-to-be presence in India with Secretary Austin, it is about our foreign
policy and the foreign policy of those countries – and in the G7 case, the foreign policy
of those member countries.
It is not about anything other else.
What we have long said, of course, is that we do not ask countries to choose between
the United States and the PRC or any other country.
It is about offering them a choice and continuing to show what a deepening partnership with
the United States can look like.
Go ahead.
QUESTIONS FROM THE FLOOR
Thank you.
On Georgia.
Yeah.
Do you have any update about the long-term observation mission to Georgia from the U.S.
for 2024 parliamentary elections?
That's going to be the first time that we're going to have the long-term mission.
Any updates on that?
I'm not aware of any specific updates, obviously, though, in any circumstances around any election.
We would want to ensure that they are held freely and fairly, and of course, when applicable,
in accordance with OSCE parameters.
But I'm happy to check if we have anything more specific.
Thank you.
And the second question.
For a month, the ruling party of Georgia and the government members of the Georgian Government
claimed that the U.S. is providing funds for coup preparation through USAID.
What is your reaction?
And more generally, how do you perceive these type of claims coming from a government that
receives millions of dollars annually from the U.S.?
I think I spoke about this a number of months ago.
And again, the answer is this is absolutely not true.
In any country around the world, again, where the U.S. does not favor any one political
party or the other or one particular government outcome or the other, again, our goal in any
of these circumstances, any of these contexts, is ensuring that there is freedom and fair
elections held in accordance with the appropriate standards.
Sean, you've got your hand raised.
Go ahead.
A few around the world.
I'm trying to be substantial.
Sure.
Do you have any readout of the media that I know asked yesterday about the climate media
and the setting lines between the two countries?
I don't have a specific readout.
I'm happy to check with the special envoy's team to see if we have any specifics to share.
But I will use this opportunity to, again, echo as two of the world's largest emitters.
Climate is a unique area in which the United States and the PRC have an opportunity in
which their – I won't say partnership, but their ability to work together can reap
benefits for the entire world.
And so that's an area that we've long said is an area where we can continue to engage
with the PRC on.
Sure.
Let me just switch topics, although also relates to China.
Burma, Myanmar.
Do you have any comment on the fighting that's in the north, the Kachin rebels?
China said that one of its – some of its nationals have been wounded in this.
Does the U.S. have any statement about – anything to say about the nature of the conflict and
whether there's – their concerns about the conflict?
I don't at this moment, Tom, but I'm happy to check and take back.
And finally, can I go back to Ukraine?
Yeah.
Do you have anything to say about President Zelensky saying it's not the right time
for elections?
Obviously, it's already – because of the war, there's the martial laws.
But what do you – do you have any comment about his intentions?
I think it's important to remember that Ukraine is in this position because Russia
continues to wage its full-scale illegal war against Ukraine.
Ukraine and its people are fighting for survival.
It's also important to remember in the context when we talk about elections that nearly 20
percent of Ukraine's territory is occupied and tens of millions of its citizens are displaced
because of Russia's war, many of them outside of the country as refugees.
On top of that, Russia continues to launch daily bombardments of civilian infrastructure
across Ukraine.
We also have made clear with our Ukrainian partners our commitment to supporting not
just Ukraine in its fight, but our commitment to support a careful and constitutional approach
to keeping democracy strong in wartime.
Can I just – so that's the only thing.
Sure.
But in terms of the actual decision not to go ahead with it in early 2024, is that – for
your point, the way you describe it, it's understandable?
Do you have any –
My understanding is that is this is consistent with their constitution.
So we'll just leave it to the Ukrainians to share anything further on that.
Go ahead.
Thank you.
Yeah.
Pakistan deporting hundreds of thousands of Afghan refugees, including those who are waiting
for their American visas.
According to U.S. Embassy Islamabad, they tried to stop the deportation of 25,000 Afghan
workers, but Pakistan rejected that list.
Let me say something about that.
So we join partners in urging all states, including Pakistan, to uphold their respective
obligations in their treatment of refugees and asylum seekers and to respect the principle
of non-refoulement.
We strongly encourage Afghanistan's neighbors, including Pakistan, to allow entry for Afghans
seeking international protection and to coordinate with the appropriate international humanitarian
organizations.
Sir, we have seen a rise in violence and terrorist attacks in Pakistan, some of them claimed
by TTP, some of them claimed by the newly formed group Tehreek-e-Jihad Pakistan.
And in a recent attack at Pakistani airbase, Pakistani security forces claimed that they
recovered American-made weapons from TTP terrorists left by U.S. in Afghanistan.
What kind of CT – counterterrorism cooperation is going on with Pakistan?
What do you want to say about these American-made weapons recovered from the terrorists?
We are aware of the reports of multiple attacks on Pakistani security forces and facilities
earlier in November, and we offer our condolences to the families of the victims.
But I want to be very clear about this.
There was no equipment left behind by American forces during the withdrawal from Afghanistan.
I will also add that while large-scale military grant assistance remains suspended, we have
partnered with Pakistan for more than 40 years to support law enforcement, rule of
law, counter-narcotics efforts, and other areas in the security space, and we'll continue
to value our bilateral relationship.
Jalil, if you want to close us out.
Go ahead.
Thank you very much, Mr. Patel.
My – this question I want to dedicate it to a fellow journalist, a Pashtun journalist
who started an English newspaper from Peshawar 40 years ago when the university didn't
even have a journalism department, Mr. Rahmat Shafridi.
The Pashtuns who – both in Pakistan and Afghanistan – are about 50 million people
since Cold War, then the Taliban ruled, then 9-1-1.
It is one ethnicity that has suffered the most, whether it's their culture, language,
you know, moving within the country.
State Department takes many initiatives, studies, whether it's reports, and can the Secretary
be kind enough to study how the Pashtuns' ethnicity has suffered since last 40 years
as part of their culture and everything?
Well, Jalil, I think it's important to remember here that in any context, as we talk about
Afghanistan, the people of Afghanistan, that we have been very clear that our commitment
to the people of Afghanistan is enduring.
The United States continues to be the single largest humanitarian donor to the people
of Afghanistan.
And of course, within that, there is, of course, the Pashtun people, that subgroup.
But again, it's important to keep that in mind.
Daphne, did you have your hand up?
Just one more question.
All right.
We'll come to you.
Former Prime Minister, a known corrupt politician as well, Nawaz Sharif, has come back to Pakistan.
He has been convicted by Supreme Court, a big staunch opponent of Imran Khan.
So does the State Department welcome Mr. Nawaz Sharif's back to Pakistan politics?
Anything to say about that?
As I said just earlier, in any country, we are not supportive of one particular party
or government over the other, and in the context of any election, it just continues to be paramount
that elections are held in a free and fair manner and reflect the will of the people
residing in that country.
Daphne, go ahead.
Thank you very much.
Thank you.
Sorry, just quickly on Gaza.
No, you're good.
Yeah.
This meeting in Paris on Thursday to coordinate aid for Gaza, who from the U.S. will attend?
So I don't have a full delegation list, but I can share that that delegation will be led
and headed by Under Secretary Azra Zia from the State Department.
And the possible creation of a maritime corridor is expected to come up, which is an idea that's
been put forward by Cyprus.
Did Blinken discuss this in his meeting with the President of Cyprus, and is this an idea
that the U.S. supports?
So what I will just say on the delivery of aids and the various methods, the U.S. particularly,
we use a number of methods, including trucks and overland routes, as well as airplanes
and helicopters.
I will let this convening discuss what options that might exist for a maritime corridor as
one of those channels, but I'm just not going to get ahead of that process.
We certainly have broadly felt that the provision of aid and any country's ability to do so
to the Palestinian people in Gaza would be a good thing.
All right.
Thanks, everybody.
Are you able to say anything about the U.S. government?
What I can close out with, Michelle, is that the senior advisor to the President, Amos
Hochstein, is in Lebanon today to meet with members of the Lebanese Government to demonstrate
the U.S.'s continued support for the Lebanese people.
In his meetings, Mr. Hochstein will continue to emphasize the U.S. is not interested in
seeing this conflict spread to Lebanon.
All right.
Thanks, everybody.