treinamento técnico Elgin linha r32
Jan 9, 2024
smaller consequently quieter
are
the pipes the pipes of 9 12 and
18,000 BTUs is a 3/8 room
everyone liked it right
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everyone liked it right the 24 and 30 thousand
BTUs a room and five eighths
Okay
but Next, we're going to talk a little
more about this kind of subject, okay,
and our equipment is completely
inverting, except for the 24,000 BTU device, none,
but what, what, what, what is not inverting,
which part that doesn't invert our 24,000
BTU
device? of expansion it is
fixed it took capillary are all
our products what is not
inverter in the 24,000 btu is the motor to
be the evaporator
fan motor
but why is it a project that
the government asks us to be able to
move the domestic market and For
now, Brazil does not supply motors other
than DC motors,
so we can also help our country,
we put this in our equipment,
fine,
and so on, back here to the fluid,
I have a third,
a third of
one at a time, I
see. just on one side
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a text of aggression global warming that
's it
compared to r410
it has 30% less impact on
global warming
okay it also has low flammability
as soon as the projector
passes
Now yes,
r32 it belongs to the classification of
two L fluids are fluids with low
formability, but Toninho, this fluid
could explode yes or no
no
What is the condition in which it can
be aggressive for us as installers,
I say ours, I also spoke a lot about
the machine,
so any type of fluid, okay, it
can be aggressive for us, for our
health, when I install the
equipment, I don't have any ventilation,
it's a confined space and I have a
high concentration of fluid in the place,
so it can be aggressive
for us, okay. You could lose
consciousness and something more serious could happen,
otherwise the equipment that has 9 thousand
btus that has 400 grams of fluid could
be aggressive for us,
yes or no, when it's working, okay,
I'm also asking so you
can stay at If you want, you can ask me, the
idea is that you too Bring your
doubts to bring about freedom, too,
beauty,
this way,
the equipment in normal operation
won't bring any aggression
to us, okay, and if I go and if I go and
do a compressor change, we'll be there It
can come to a very interesting point,
automatic ignition point,
every refrigerant has its
automatic ignition point, that of r22, for
example, everyone can
see it,
this letter is quite large,
the r22 fluid has 635 degrees Celsius
as its automatic ignition point.
what this is is when the fluid heats up
when the fluid heats up to this
temperature it automatically catches fire
this will all fluid have
Ah but there is no r410 because it is a
blending right the Blender is not the mixture
of R 125 with r32 50 % each, that's why
we can do it, we have to charge the
refrigerant
correctly, everyone agrees,
so I guarantee that both
types of fluid for the machine are correct with
R32, because it's pure, I can charge it
up
so quickly, huh? Good,
coming back to this point
when changing the compressor
it won't reach a very high temperature
yes or no what
should I do to prevent
this from happening I
will
I know you young lady welcome
nitrogen as our friend said there I
will circulate nitrogen inside the
system what to do what to make
the r32 come out
Come to the external environment
you will circulate it for some time and
then you can do all the
procedure that you think should
be exchange of compressor that I talk about, I
usually talk about changing the
compressor because it's the most
common, okay, and it doesn't leak, anyway, okay,
you can use abrasion in the
normal way, okay,
and so, I have the working pressure.
What is the working pressure? It's
similar to R410,
okay, it's similar to R410A, there's no
difference, of course, they
're different fluids, understand, they're different
fluids,
different behaviors, because I have the smallest volume,
I have the highest heat absorption,
absorption and rejection, okay,
so far everyone has understood something.
doubt so far
the overheating is also the same as
r410a from 7 to 11 k cool
I can use the tools I
use for 410 on page 32
yes or no yes
no it
will be
yes
if you said something very interesting
I can use the same ones Same
tooling, today the pressure gauges are
coming with this cover, the r32
is logical if you are going to use it
Hose, clean it if you don't have a
separate hose kit just to be
able to
use the r32 fluid as well as
any other fluid This is the correct one,
ok good and the vacuum pump is the same
oil as the compressor it's the same one
I've had too,
fine, any questions are here like this,
the rated current, you can talk,
there's a microphone there,
but the guy so far away, tell us, we
'll replace
you. Are you saying I can replace it? I
can change the hose.
Good question. Do you want to know if I can use
equipment that has R410a? Can I
exchange it for 32? No. Why ca
n't I?
general but the compressor is
for r410a the expansion device
for the same fluid and so
on
if you look carefully
the characteristics of the coils are
different from r32 or r410
So these are specific situations even
if just a minute I'll answer
your question
even if you open the
equipment that has r32 and see there
compressor for
410/r32 You've probably come
across a situation like this
Okay, but it's not, it
's not viable to make this replacement, fine,
calm, to answered,
no,
yes
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yes,
exactly the behavior will be
different exactly good good any more
questions
a friend of mine I know
a friend of mine
a friend of mine
good you want to know if you can collect the
fluid I
can nothing stops you as long as you
know
the infrastructure you are working with
if you have a very long infrastructure
what which I recommend collecting by
using a collector, collecting using a
cylinder and weighing
in the case of a very long infrastructure,
not only a very long infrastructure that is
an infracut But you know the
infrastructure that you have just
arrived at the client and are carrying out an assessment,
no,
I'm talking What I would do, I would collect it,
pressurize it with hydrogen and evaluate what
was happening if there was a
leak, after all I would see what
I was going to do to make the
equipment work
Okay, but it is to collect it for a cylinder
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are you just understanding me? for
a minute you were going to say it's
not for 5 meters
I can collect it completely calmly and there
won't be a problem in that case, yes as long
as no
it can collect it but there will be a
moment when it won't be able to handle it,
for any type of equipment it
won't be able to handle it It's not going to explode, make it
very clear, right, it does
n't change anything
my friend
I know my friend
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not because it's online You can't talk you
can talk it's no problem don't
say master
410 or is it from F22 is it something else it's the
same connection for the r410 It doesn't change anything,
fine, any more questions, you
can ask, no problem,
because just a minute because the
compressor comes with the designation
for r410 and for r32,
for some projects it can be used
for 410, nothing prevents it
and in our case with the r32, this is
linked to the project
Not specifically, I
can use it for different
types of equipment, you have to be
careful with it,
as you must have been in the area
much longer than me, you
must have already encountered several situations where the
compressor was not suitable for some type of
connection for some reason if you
put this equipment for this
compressor like an r410 machine you
will see that its connections are
different
mainly. It starts there, beauty,
the working pressure of this gas is
similar to the pressure of r410a is
around 123 135, so
any more questions, ok, it's
answered
But any questions,
good
to finish this part here, the
recommendation is if you are going to carry out
corrective maintenance on any type of
equipment, do it in a well-ventilated, airy place, well,
the our equipment
is all classified a
What is classification a classification
by Procel and Inmetro this
classification
is what determines whether the equipment is
efficient
consumes less and delivers cooling
according to its states it is here
according to the table If you want You can
take a photo later, call me and I'll send it
to you, send this part to you to
use as a sales argument, out
of the 10 pieces of equipment we put
to test, 7 do you have a cell phone, what is this
carrot, are IDRs seasonal cooling index
above seven is equal to 7 or
above,
okay,
this one in this case has 7.6 Hey, young man,
yes,
a friend of yours also installed it
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because there will be any
external temperature, beard
the pressure, one corresponding to the
external temperature,
understand
pressure at higher temperatures,
higher temperature, pressure
beauty
but any questions
are you talking about overheating
I have a personal table
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the temperature pressure table that
a certain corresponding for each
fluid has in its table
beauty
any more
personal questions the important item is the filter
Its entrance is on top, now the
filter is on top and this filter is
a product that has silver ions in its
composition to help
filter the air, ok, as shown
there, it's the arg filter, more If you
want put a vitamin C activated carbon filter
here, this
support is also available, give you
a call to see if it's available,
first of all I talk about this function,
understand
the cleaning function, when the customer
activates it, it won't come out. a technician from
here to be able to clean
the product,
nothing will replace your work,
okay,
because I'm already saying this so as not to
create too much discussion, when the
customer activates this function, the
CL for Clean will appear here on the Clean display. This
process lasts around an hour and a
half,
it heats the coil to around
57 degrees to be able to eliminate this
odor, this type of thing, and
in the condenser It will
rotate counterclockwise and then
clockwise that has stuck it will
release Oh but I recommend only cold here
in case it will
dry the coil it will ventilate until the
coil dries like this is also a
way to eliminate the musty smell
beauty
and the process will be the same in the
condenser everyone is listening to me
guys From the bottom there it's calm
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I understand no one is going to leave here
to be able to sterilize the
equipment.
has access both here
and in front of the equipment, say
more, it
will depend a lot on the customer's use, right,
yes, it
will enter the maintenance plan system every
month, three months, six months,
one year,
but the minimum recommendation is that at least
twice a year be sanitized in
fact it
's good
retro control Illuminated the control is an
environment it's dark it's
fluorescent and it's entirely in Portuguese the
guys are already coming there because
of the audio that's been running a few years ago,
right,
avoid that kind of thing, but
Jokes aside for people who
have difficulty with English to know what
they are doing and make it easier for you on a
daily basis to give you some guidance, great, look at
this control, I'll even take the control
here just for a minute, take
it here for me, please,
the control here Oh, it doesn't have a battery, but
it has gone through standardization, yes, it
has a sensor on it, for example, I have
two pieces of equipment installed in the house, I
do. I have a habit of putting the
controller in my pocket.
with other equipment
connected it will synchronize with the
temperature on the control that is
with me on the control that is activated it
has this sensor beauty
now where is it on the slider
here
ask
yes
most of all of our
lines now the control It's the same
here, we're taking advantage of the hook, right?
We also have the eco
inverter here, which will come with
connectivity, is
n't this model yet, but a
new version of it with
connectivity is coming, so the customer will download
I came Smart and will do the control.
by application Okay but I have other
lines also an ecoap which has the
condenser in barrel format I have the
k7 one way one to one which is
barrel format also which can reach capacities
of 98
even the capacity of this one here is 9 to 30 thousand
people
per cassette one way one to one with the
barrel type condenser also where
the author of it 14.5 CM
9 12 already with connectivity I have Bi and
trisprite the bi split of 18 18,000 BTUs
split 27,000 btu that goes from 7.5 to 20 TR
right 7.5 10 15 and 23 with the modular condensers
I have n option options for you there to
work in the market calmly and
most importantly at an affordable price
our concern is that what you I
say the end customer
has I give access to our product and
feel safe to be able to carry out the
installation, maintenance, beauty,
the display is invisible, even here, in this case,
it is invisible, you know, you can't
see that it has 26 degrees there, but
if the customer is sensitive to
light, they won't have that light inside
in his room there is an option to turn it off
on the beauty control
and it is extremely silent
starting with the volume of fluid that I
have in the equipment with the volume of
fluid is low the noise is less and therefore the
functioning of the entire equipment is
less also in fact cause a little less noise,
okay, I've
already summarized this part here, so let's
move on to the next one,
rotten plate, if you want to form
the plate, here the evaporator plate has
easy access to it, okay, I removed the entire
evaporator cap, here, where do I have access
to the command and if I buy a screw, I
can remove it, I
can remove it so I can do the
tests, I avoid it,
exactly, okay, and you can
remove it, do sensor testing on other
components, okay,
come here, next to here, where I have my
finger,
taking advantage of it here too. I have the top,
if I don't have the control, I can
turn it on, you can also see where I am with my
finger here,
right up here,
right here,
I can get it to work and
without the control, only then it will go
into operation. automatic automatic
24 degrees 25 degrees beauty
calm
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the condenser plate too Rodrigo here,
taking advantage of the hook
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our plate is around 30%
smaller compared to that of
her older sister, the echo is there. It's
upright, it's vertical, okay, what's the
purpose?
about the sign,
everyone agrees,
since I have this particularity,
the engineering people made sure the
sign stayed upright,
so if it has been sunk in places in the
Praiana region,
the salt hits and runs
Yes, everything I'm telling you was
submitted
just one minute, just one minute, one thing at a
time, calm down,
no, I don't have access
exactly, yes, I understand, say it now,
yes,
getting wet makes it difficult for me if you get wet,
but for example, when you
clean the condenser,
the lid that goes on top of it doesn't allow
the water passes to the other side, okay, it
has this component here, you
see,
and that's what won't let
water pass to the other side,
okay, and also to be able to remove the
plate, it's easier, okay, if I loosen a
screw, I can remove it. the whole thing,
if you don't want to take it out and be able to
do the test, you can find a way to do
the tests here, you can do it too,
you have easy access to all the
components, okay
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practically it takes all
the parts out of it to
clean
it. The fan is a condenser, it has
some protection against
water, yes, because it is exposed to the
weather, rainwater must
accumulate a little there when it starts
to work.
in this part here, since I said so,
send confusion on the board, also the
coil and the entire
condenser housing, it also has a double layer
of anti-corrosion protection, okay, so don't
worry,
this is not the case for you, but even high
resistance to weather, beauty
and all of ours The coil is 100% copper, there
is no longer an aluminum coil in
our beauty products,
I already said it above, I can do it once again,
reinforcing it, I can connect it
without the control. If you have
Elgin equipment that doesn't have
connectivity, I can get Eugin Smart, which
is a wireless control,
yes, I can have access to all the
functions that are involved, increase, decrease
speed, turn on, turn off, mainly
there is an Alexia connection, in short, there are n
factors that are available for you to
offer to the customer. I have an affordable cost,
integrated, the next model is integrated
into it,
this guy here
good good
beauty
I also want to participate in the draw
like this,
important point, you can take it out of the
box, you can open it,
important point, our plates can withstand
70 to 300 volts
in regions that have high
power fluctuations. Don't worry,
the plate has enough resistance
to handle the traffic okay
Samsung doesn't work anymore
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well
No
I was praying for that to
happen
But it's one thing at a time we'll
get there,
how can I get to this
measurement
I have a piece of equipment inside the
factory it's called variac where I can
test the boards at the lowest voltage
and the highest voltage when I get to the
most attention is where the board gets
damaged This is the limit of the board that's
why we put it here, it's
safe in places that have High or
energy selection the machine can handle it
beauty
[Laughter]
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good [
Laughter]
just a minute [
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beauty any
more questions
300 volts
good guys personal guarantee
you liked it, right,
it's a 10 year guarantee from professor
Paulinha radius UOL only for
High line 3-year warranty
for accredited and one-year warranty
for non-accredited However, you can
get the three-year warranty through
our partners, in this case, you have a beauty profile
Ah, but I'm not even able to
enter the warranty process.
I'm not accredited, yes through our
beauty partner
And another one has the compliment in favor of
you, you owe me a message for a
long time, see
if you don't send me a message Boy,
you don't help me, I told you, do
you remember what I said, I
didn't say, there's no point if Hide old,
no, but you can send a message and I
'll help you become an accredited
beauty, so it works for anyone
here, okay,
we have the invert floor ceiling, oh,
calm down,
we have the invert floor ceiling, I was
scared now,
what's going on?
with r32 it will have 24 to 58,000
BTUs and the inverter cassette with the 82 will
have 18 to 58,000 btu great but for
now
this equipment will arrive
next year tell me
the legend
the equipment is already coming
equipment from the light commercial line
light commercial inverter comes with
refrigerant with up to seven and a half meters
of line, this completed
conventional r410 we will no longer have
just inverter,
the documentation probably hasn't come out yet
but the idea that
light commercial line equipment
is more or less similar to the
amount of
refrigerant fluid goes up to 5 m of line but it
is still in process, the
documentation will still be done, there will be a process
that still has to be followed,
the team still has it, for now we will
focus on the line in the Residential line
yes five meters of line, as there is still
a factory transition process, there
is still a process
to be completed,
the equipment with the light commercial line
will only come in next
year, it is already
there, for now with the Residential line
9 and 12,000 BTUs that in reality you are
a little accelerated, you are trying to
process it, right, but for 9 12 thousand additional BTU
for 18 24 and 30 it is 25 grams
cool,
we were in the cafe with seven floor ceiling
inverter
for now as we have the r410 it
is still in process of transition it still
has 36 to
60,000 BTUs This also works for ceiling floors
and the same idea is the same, I have auto
Restart as well as in the Residential line
in case the power goes out in the place where it is
installed when it returns it goes back to the
last setting I left it at 18 degrees
high ventilation she votes for this in this
same configuration ok
The idea is the same okay And so for
installation the difference between the ceiling floor and
the inverter cassette is that never If it is
reversed I come with a template but the
considerations are the same as for the
pipe gauge They are also the same, the
minimum distance from the wall to the
ceiling will be two meters and 30 minimum
to 2.70 maximum. Beauty,
if I want to place it higher than that,
yes, but then you have to consider
other situations, beauty
here, it's an important point
of 36,000. BTUs there
is some detailed information there that I
left so I can tell you and not
write, okay, if I have a
pipe moment, I have three-eighths and three-
quarters, right?
These are the pipes for the
light commercial line,
if I have a
three-eighth pipe eighths I
reach up to 15 meters
I have a gauge change I
go to seven eighths correct if I
reach the population of seventies up to
20 meters I go to one inch piping
great and only because of the 36,000
BTUs
the whole line
is
ok I'm going to talk about
the 48,000 BTU gauge, also three-
quarters, the 60,000 BTU gauge is seven-eighths,
three-eighths, three-eighths
and seven-eighths, ok, there
will be an increase of one inch
from 15 meters, beauty,
bottom charge of 36,000
BTU refrigerant it comes with all of them, right? 36 48 608
refrigerant for up to seven and a half meters
full charge,
that's it, I'm going to add 30g per
additional meter
Ah, but that's it, it's only for 36,000
btu to 48 60 thousand 50G per
additional goal, beauty Ah, but the siphon has
n't jumped enough here now I'm going to talk
about the siphon
the siphon will be as follows if the
condenser is above the evaporator
I'm going to have a siphon every three meters the
evaporator exits if it's above the
condenser
I'm going to make an inverted siphon at its outlet
This is for both the light commercial line
and the Residential beauty line
I've already talked a lot about the plate too but
I have a way to measure it in case it
fails but that's a topic for
another time I want to give you more details
so I can do it let's
see here,
Eco inverter
wants to talk on the microphone
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this is the past, an installation that is
seven and a half meters long, I'm going to take an
example of 36,000 BTUs,
everything is the same, 36 48 60 thousand BTU
refrigerant for up to 7 and a half meters of
line,
if it exceeds seven and a half meters, I
'll put 30, in the case of 36, ok,
I'll add 30 grams per additional target
to the 48 60,000 BTUs 50 G per additional target, fine, okay, I
said the plate a little,
I want it, I want to come back here just to be
able to talk a little more about the board
because it is a very extensive subject But have you
already had access here, you have seen that there is no
mystery, you can take the measurements, you
can have the necessary values for
its work, ok
to finish,
I can do
the installation here evaporator unit,
as the manual requires, it is 15 cm
in relation to the ceiling
But what if I install it at 10 cm,
will I have a higher performance?
Changing it wo
n't deliver what you're
saying it will deliver.
Everyone agrees,
you're really sharp. I
like it.
Everyone agrees.
Exactly,
you went far.
Logical day, right, we can't predict
all situations, there's no way to do
that, OK, but most of us
can simulate
that you're about 10 cm
tall, so what are you going to do,
just measure her performance, you're going to have to
make changes,
okay?
Even so, the same thing serves two
meters and 30 minimum two meters 70 meters
high beauty
piping I already told you earlier
it's 9 12 18 thousand btu
a room five-eighth it's minimum
installation is suitable for both
light commercial and residential lines
minimum 2 meters This is the case here,
92,000 BTUs minimum 2 maximum 15 meters of
line as a limit 18 and 24,000 BTUs
minimum 2 maximum 20 and 30 thousand BTUs
minimum 2 maximum 30 meters that's
it, I already talked about the siphon
Ah, an important detail
will make the siphon When you're going to do abrasion,
use nitrogen
because it's going to
give that reaction to form internal dirt in
the pipes,
a filter, a capillary, anyway,
something is going to happen. it
has to
be between 10 and 15 degrees Celsius in the
condenser, it will have to give at
least 25 degrees of difference,
okay, so far,
beauty,
additional charge from the South of refrigerant, I
already mentioned 9 and 12 20 grams for more
traditional 18 24 and 30 25 grams per
meter additional, calm down
later, if you want, I can be just ask me
guys,
any questions,
boss, don't even send them at home
Hey friend, I know,
repeat the question,
repeat the question, which I didn't understand,
you'll be scared of the
structure between the evaporator and the
condenser, you need to continue having
those
ones two meters of infrastructure
there minimum two
minimum two meters all equipment
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that's right
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Music]
you like me
you're going to have that you're going to have you don't
like me anyway right
you're going to have oil added
every five meters 10 grams 10 MG 10
ml
per meter ends five meters if I'm not
mistaken that's right I will I can
give you this answer more accurately
but from what I remember that's it fine
any more questions, don't worry
guys, ask me one Please Rodrigão,
the people who watched us, thank you very much,
anything, there's a number, so
you feel free, there's my Instagram,
I'm available to everyone OK, beauty
[Music] there
's this part too, but come on, we'll
do it
Follow me there, selection do ar@
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I'm at your disposal if you have any questions you
can call me on Instagram Instagram
I'll be responding as soon as
possible beauty Thank you very much, thanks
guys, do me a favor, scan this
guy here and then I'll do
the satisfaction survey,
I'm here to help
you
with anything else, just call me on
WhatsApp here and I'm always
available
guys, there were some people here who
I left some questions, sir, fix the
stabilizer here, you
'll probably be listening to everything. There were also
a lot of people who left some
questions, but they split up the
questions during the training itself
Okay, so it turns out there's no
need for us to continue
answering Okay, so the friend's story
is getting complicated. Look what a
cool place, congratulations
and guys, the only thing left to do is thank
everyone who follows a live, share it,
we'll see if it's not edited and
upload it here, like the video, too, beauty, to make
it easier, I already explained
it to him, I hope I managed to bring him
maximum knowledge for you and
you forgive me right at the beginning that there
was that little
problem when we broadcast
Live with his profile You can say it in the
wrong position, right, but then we have to
finish Live access everything again and
everything there but I hope you were
able to take advantage of it, you talk about the
guarantee, beauty,
more information, let's go, well,
you asked a very important question,
everyone is listening to me, soon,
beauty, the best way, thank you very much
for your company, stay everyone, stay that
way and see you next time

