Candace Reads Megan Fox's Poetry to Matt Walsh

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Matt Walsh joins me to discuss how many kids is TOO many and whether or not aliens are real. Plus, I read him poetry from Megan Fox's poetry book, ""Pretty Boys Are Poisonous.""
Ep.259"
Happy Thursday, everybody. Let's start with a fact if we had to rank the nicest hosts at the Daily Wire from top to bottom
I certainly would not be at the top
But I want to make it clear that I also would not be at the bottom today
I'm going to be joined by the person who sits at the bottom if you need proof of my claim
Here's an out-of-context clip of Matt Walsh
the thing that really sticks out to me about his testimony is you said that fat chicks were running and
now
You tell me why else would a fat chick run?
Have you ever seen a fat chick run if they were in the habit of running?
They wouldn't be fat. So you think well, why would they be running? Were they giving free samples at Cinnabon?
That'd be one reason
Cinnabon doesn't give free samples. Okay, I've asked I
Mean disgusting actually, I felt that that was actually healthist. It's not bad accepting whatsoever
It was fat phobic
But say he and I are going to discuss something else
It's a clip that has been circulating on the internet of a woman who claims that having more than four kids is selfish
Spoiler alert Matt Walsh has six kids. Is he selfish all that plus a few surprises coming up on Candace Owens?
Matt Walsh welcome to the Candace Owens show. It's good to have you here
Yeah, thanks for having me. I just want to say my defense on the Cinnabon thing
That was really that was that was simply my excuse for complaining about the fact that Cinnabon doesn't give out free samples
That was all that was all about I just wanted to
Cuz that that's that's a point of real sorrow for me that they don't give out free samples
Yeah, that's it's it's a you know, I these were your words if you want to justify them. That's totally fine
I brought you on today Matt because I saw this clip that was circulating on the internet and often on my show I talk about
Just this sort of human beings that we are putting in society how we're raising kids in the home
the cuddle culture that we seem to have and I was really struck by this clip and somewhat alarmed by a lot of the
Comments that followed it, but it is a woman Brianna last name Lapaglia and Grace
O'Malley on the plan Brie
Haha, clever uncut podcast and they were discussing how many kids people should or should not have and here is the clip
We're talking about the same thing weirdly how like how fucking crazy it is to raise so many kids because we were all asking each
Other how many kids we want and I was like 10 and they were like, dude, are you crazy?
Yes, and I'm you know what and you're selfish because not a single one of those kids is gonna feel loved enough than the other
Oh, dude, yes, they would. No
Max where you know, I got you cannot give. Nope. You can't give equal love to 10 kids. There's no shot
That's pretty pessimistic. Well, it's it's the truth
So you cannot give equal love if you have more than four children
She deems that to be incredibly selfish. And again, you have six children
So explain to us which ones you love more or tell us why you think she's wrong
Well, yeah, she's right, you know you have it's just basic math
You have like a hundred percent of love and then you have to divide it between all the kids
And so I guess the idea is if you have up to four then at least each kid gets 25% of your luck
I mean, it's like I'm joking me that that is actually how they see it
They they can't first of all, these are people who don't understand even what love is. They don't know what they're talking about
and and also they they think of they think of everything in terms of commodities and
You know, even though a lot of these people are pretend to be socialists. They they have this very kind of like
Mercenary view of everything and they look at children as commodities
Is that what you can only have so many and then after that it's too many
when in fact, you know love is
is
When you actually have and any any parent who has more than one kid knows that this is not a dilemma
You don't have to choose between them. You are giving of yourself
totally and completely as a parent and
Whether you have one kid or four kids or six kids and that's also why I always find it funny this claim that having
You know too many kids is selfish now. It is true that
You can have a lot of kids and still be a selfish person
So there's nothing about becoming a parent that makes you not selfish
But if you are actually investing yourself in parenthood and you're taking it seriously, then it is a fundamentally
Selfless undertaking and again anyone with kids knows this that kids are what if what if kids do they they constantly need things all
the time, you know, especially
when they're younger that's they're they are these
you know little bundles of joy and love but also of
need and demands
And so you are you're constantly giving of yourself
So it is it is if you're doing it, right?
it's pretty much the least selfish thing you can do and also on top of that we as parents and
Those of us with more parents is even more so the case
We are the ones who are doing a little thing known as ensuring the future of the human species
so when it comes to
Like making sure that we have a future as a civilization. We as parents are doing all of that work
And then these people that sit back with no kids, you know passing
Casting their judgment. They they're doing nothing at all is a we're carrying the entire weight on our shoulders
Which is absolutely true and I was really struck by the way by the comments under this section now some people disagreed
Obviously and we're saying exactly what you're saying and you do know this as a parent
It's you can't even explain it like you have one child and you're like, how can I possibly love it?
And then you have to like how can I put and then it just just keeps going it there
There's no bottom to the amount of love that you can give children
But people that were in the comment section that were one of five children were saying I totally agree with this, you know when I was
Coming up in this household. I had to watch my sister
I had to babysit my sibling and essentially what they were saying and I'll give you this person as just one
Example the huntswoman writes real talk
I grew up a Mormon in an area where five kids was average and there were a lot of eight to ten kid families
The problem with having ten kids is this there are only so many hours in a day and the oldest kids
Especially the girls will act as parents to the youngest kids
I saw this cycle play out in a bunch of families the youngest and oldest children had vastly different childhood experiences and
levels of parental attention this just made me laugh and I made me laugh because it made me I guess
Understand even more why we are producing such little narcissists and brats in society the idea that a child should have no
Responsibilities to me is what's more astounding. They think that a child's
basically, what they're offering is that if you have one child you can pour an
unimaginable amount of attention into them and
This person will have no responsibilities mommy and daddy will be able to take care of absolutely everything and then you can release them into
the world to become what
Non-productive citizens and when I was growing up, I'm one of four I had responsibilities
Yes, I took care of my younger couple younger siblings
I took care of my younger cousins. This was something that I didn't really view as disrupting my childhood
I kind of viewed it as as you get older and you can take on more responsibilities in a household. You should
Yeah, I think what I said the beginning that these people don't really understand what love is
this is kind of what I'm talking about that they they think that
that there's somehow some kind of
Conflict between love and
Responsibility and so if you're being given responsibility, then you're not being loved which couldn't it's not just wrong
It couldn't be farther from the truth
It's like the exact opposite of what is the reality when love and responsibility go hand-in-hand?
In fact part of loving your child is to give them responsibilities
And is to help them become not just productive members of society, which you know, ultimately they will be
hopefully but
Just to help them become better better people, which is better for them
And so it's it's true that when you have a lot of kids then then naturally the kids, you know
It's more responsibility for you as a parent. It's also it also ends up being more responsibility for the kids as well
I'm one of six myself. I have six so I know this but that is a
That's a feature not a bug
This is one of the advantages of having a lot of kids is that gives it gives your kids the opportunity?
To help around the house to you know, they're no they're not becoming parents
But they are it's a some extent taking on the responsibility and the role of caring for their younger siblings
This is a great benefit for them. I think one of the you know, there are a lot of
disadvantages of only having like one kid
and
One of the disadvantages I think is that is that now because it's only one kid and hopefully there are two parents
Now you really have to is to be very careful about sort of
manufacturing opportunities for your child your single child to have
responsibilities and I think a lot of
Parents of only one kid don't manufacture those those opportunities and so they end up with a really spoiled kid
But when you have a lot of kids, you know, you don't really have to manufacture it
It's just it naturally comes with the life that you're living that they're gonna take on responsibilities
And hopefully that will help them become less selfish people and it's true that you know, kids need attention from parents
They want a lot of attention and you need to give them your attention
But it is definitely possible to give a kid too much attention
Absolutely, and that's another problem when you only have one kid the risk that they receive way too much attention is is very high
Just going from I mean now I'm at three but from one to two
one of the biggest things that are working on with my son who is two is he
Because he had this 18 months of just being by himself where actually every toy in the playroom was his he struggles with sharing
It ended it's something that we're working on every single day
We have to put him in timeout to understand that when his little sister grabs a toy he takes from her and he says it's mine
It's mine. It's mine
We didn't even like tell him everything was his just happened to be the circumstance that it was all his for 18 months
And so just by having a second sibling
We know that he is now going to become a better person because it's not I tell him a million times a day
It's not all about you, bud
You got to learn to share
These are good values to instill in an individual and I think that right now the mentality that she is sharing is that children should
Be coddled children should have no responsibilities
And this is exactly the reason that when I show up to a college campus and I wonder who raised these children, right?
They're brats. I mean, this is what's happening. They're absolute brats
It is this exact mentality that is coming down the pipeline where it's like it needs to be all about you
You are wonderful. You should never have to share and you should have no
Responsibilities until maybe you're 25 and get a job and you can't figure out why you can't make any money because you have no concept
Of what responsibility even is?
Yeah
And the other thing too I mentioned just for a practical perspective is that is that it is true that it's it's important for kids
to have
first of all again attention from their parents you want them to have like
Individual one-on-one attention from their parents as much as you know to the extent that that's possible
You you also you want them to have
That's some time to themselves as well so they can be their own person
You see you want all those things for your kid
but when you have a lot of kids, I know this course from experience that you it's it's not that difficult to
Create those kinds of environments and to make sure that your kids have that
As well, I mean, I'll do things like on the weekend if I have to run an errand really quickly
I'll bring you know
I'll just choose one of the kids and I'll bring them with me so that we can have at least a
Few moments of kind of one-on-one
Bonding times you just look for the little opportunities like that
But the problem is if you don't if you don't have a lot of kids you only have one kid
There are things that your kid needs that it's gonna be harder to create those opportunities
Like I said, one of them is responsibility. The other is also bond
you know, it's it's when you have when your kid has siblings now they have a
Bond with those siblings and that's important for them to have as well
and and it's just
Yeah, there are challenges with having a lot of kids, but I tend to think that
There are many more and more significant challenges
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Well, I'm now going to radically switch topics is something that you and I very much agree on and I would say that it is
a challenge in our society right now people are definitely on different sides in terms of believing in
aliens
Matt recently there was an incident in Miami, which warranted a very big police response
You are definitely on the case on your show covering it
I have never seen a bigger police response plausibly in my life
Maybe not since 9-eleven but that's on the topic of aliens all together. Where are you at?
Well, I'm I think famously it's it's known that I'm I'm fully bought in
I'm fully bought in to all of it
and I think that you know the easiest thing if you're on the doubter side of it the easiest thing to debate for you on
that side is
The issue of whether or not aliens have actually visited earth. I think they have in fact
They were just in Miami shopping at the mall. So we know that
but
So that's one thing but then there's the kind of broader which I think is maybe even more interesting topic, which is whether
These life-forms exist at all in the universe and when it comes to that
I think that the the argument on the doubter side is is incredibly
Flimsy, I think that if you if you are we don't know for sure
But if you had to guess one way or another
the smartest and most educated guess is that
You know somewhere on the trillions of planets that exist in this universe. There are probably other forms of life
To me it really is a common-sense thing and I people think I think way too hard of the topic
I always just go back to common sense and that's where I'm at
Do you think that we are the most intelligent being in the universe?
Clearly not because we can't get out into the universe. We can't get to the bottom of the ocean
So there obviously has to be more intelligent beings even when you consider where we were just a hundred years ago compared to today
And so I think it's the word alien that throws people off maybe because it just relies on cultural depictions and movie screens
You know alien just means foreigner
Do you believe that there is something foreign to this planet that could be outside in the planetary system? Yes, obviously
I I really think it's that obvious and I for whatever reason
People don't even want to consider it and I think that actually has more to do with fear than rationality
Right because then suddenly if you start recognizing that there are more intelligent beings out there
And they don't want to be seen then you can become remarkably fearful and people prefer
Not to consider something that big would be my take. Yeah, I think that's part of it
I also think like I but I think a lot of this comes back to the religious question that people have a hard
Hard time with I don't but you know, if you look at this
Yeah, if you look at this from a purely materialistic standpoint, which which is not my standpoint
I'm not a materialist, but if you look at it from that standpoint, there's really there's nothing even talk about it
It's like clear then it's just a number. It's just kind of a numbers game
It's a game of odds and statistics and just like statistically. It's it's almost
inconceivable that there would be trillions of planets in the world in the universe and we are the only one that managed to develop life, but
People I think from what I from having this conversation many times with many people
What I have encountered like 90% of the time that quickly comes down to the fact that the person I'm talking to if they if they
Don't believe if they're a doubter when it comes to aliens, it's because
They're you know Christian and they think that this creates some sort of theological
Quandary to imagine that there might be beings elsewhere in the universe, especially rational beings
But I don't I don't see it that way
I don't think that there's nothing there's nothing in the Bible that precludes it
The Bible really is not the Bible isn't interested in telling us about what's happening in other galaxies
It's just not that that's not that's not what the Bible is trying to do
just leaves that an open question and
And I also think that you know
you can make the argument from the other way theologically that we know that God created the universe he created all these many hundreds of
billions of galaxies and
God does things for reasons. And so why are all those galaxies there? I think it's logical to
theorize that
all this other stuff is in the universe because there are other beings out there that are
That are you know using using it. I mean that to me that just that's not only a scientific
Conclusion but also theologically it makes makes a lot of sense to me
Yeah, I do run into that theological problem with people when I debate it and I say the exact same thing
I actually think it's quite limiting to say that you know
God created all of this and it's just about you know, the human beings that are on earth, right?
He's greater than that. And obviously we can't even
Think about the things that he has created and why he has created them because we're not meant to be able to do that
But totally agree with your take Matt
Something really big happened culturally and I think that you might have missed it on your show
And so I wanted to introduce this to you because it's important and it happened and it was a book
It's actually a book of poetry that was written by Megan Fox. Are you familiar with Megan Fox? I am familiar with Larry
Yeah, I didn't know she I didn't know she was a poet, but I'm familiar. Oh, she is a poet
I know you probably are familiar with her drinking the blood of machine-gun Kelly
and
Being naked on the internet and talking about how she cut a hole in her dress
So that they could have sex wherever they wanted to have sex in her outfit
But she's also a literary genius and I just wanted because I think a lot of people think that you're a tough guy
You're not emotional. I wanted to read you a couple of poems
From her book just to see yeah, please do. Yeah. Yeah. Okay. This is this is a great surprise. Yeah
So this one is entitled why I wish I was gay
Ready. Mm-hmm. It doesn't matter how beautiful loyal nurturing sexy witty
Smart or altruistic you are he will still take you for granted
That's the end of the poem. That was no, that's it. That's the whole poem. Oh, well
I I just wanted it to continue because it was so so captivated by it. Yeah, don't get captivated for two for too long. It's
It was incredible. It was incredible. Okay good. I'm gonna read you one more and this is
This isn't a book. She published it. Yeah, there's a ton of poems here. Okay
She obviously spent some time. I could have probably written all of these in a lunch hour
but
I'm gonna read you the next one because I this is actually it's deeper. Okay, hit me hit me with it
This one is called
Seven the number of completion. I
Hate men. I hate men. I
Hate men. I hate men. I hate men. I hate men. I hate men
That was the poem. That's the whole poem
Well, I just want to say Candice that I thought the poem is beautiful
But I also want to commend you on your performance of it
Which I thought was I could tell I could I could tell you've been practicing in the mirror
I just felt you know when I when I got to the third I hate men
Something something happened for me. I
Could tell I could tell that it did. Yeah, and wow
I I had no I knew that she was of course one of the great actresses of our time if not the greatest
But I didn't realize she was also our greatest stuff. I think she even gives who's that girl?
Amanda
Gorman she gives Amanda Gorman
The slam poet who gave up. I think she gave she did a poem at the Biden's
Operation. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Anyway, they're both there. They're to the top two. I think I
Think you should write a book of poetry. I know that you are a published children's a best-selling children's author actually
and so I just wanted to kind of
Put this in your ear and then and show you that she's had remarkable success
The the book is it's wonderful a book of poetry and I'm glad to be able to share that with you
One last thing before you go. So there is this thing called black Twitter and
It actually for me remains undefeated
It's it's very funny find some gems in there and I found a tweet that
Kind of shook me to my core because I realized that it's true
You talk a lot about morality on your show you talk about virtue on your show
And I would like you to respond to this tweet because I think it's it's on the money
She writes in hindsight
The Wicked Witch of the West have every reason to light Dorothy's ass up
How are you gonna kill my sister and steal her red bottoms you hillbilly biatch?
And I had actually never really considered the plot line
Wizard of Oz and I went back after reading this tweet and realized yes Dorothy
Landed her house on a person
Killed them and then took her Louboutins, which they might have been moved on a sparkly. Whatever
And then that person who was just trying to get back her sister's
Shoes was then called the Wicked Witch and I I can't unsee it
I think it's the first example culturally of trying to turn a criminal into a hero
I mean it started with Dorothy we ended up at George Floyd very quickly
and so I would I would like you to consider that and I know I
Think that's brilliant. I wish that I actually did a video recently. I think my most important video
I've ever done where we were talking about Disney villains
Who were right and who have been who have been I think grossly misinterpreted and I mean the classic one is Gaston
who was trying to rescue his
What who he wanted to be his bride to be from this vicious beast that had kidnapped her
The beast kills him and then and then there's this weird like bestial relationship between beauty and the visa. Anyway, I
Didn't even think of Wizard of Oz, but that's a really good point. Like you
Yeah, you land it you killed her sister
I mean, no, you didn't just kill her. You killed her in one of the most horrifying
Can you imagine being crushed by a house? It's so violent and then all she thinks to do is take
She just takes the what does she do? She takes her shoes or something? Is that what she loots?
Yeah, she sees that there's like, you know, it's a crazy time. No one else is going on
It's after a hurricane. This is like what you see in New Orleans after a hurricane
She loots is there ever a moment I'd have to go back and watch I haven't seen in a while
But is there a moment where she shows any remorse or where she shows any sadness over the fact that she just killed a person?
No, no, there was no sadness and somehow she's hailed as a hero
she then sent on this quest and she's got these these ruby red slippers that she stole from a person that she murdered with her
House in a very violent aggressive way and it's it's very strange to me
I'm happy that black Twitter brought this to my attention
And I'm okay with it's calling her a hillbilly biatch because now that I realized what's going on
It is she it's a horrible story
And I know that you are a morally sound person and that you would recognize the horror of this story
I do and I got to go back and make that video again
I got to add an update to it because we've had an update to it
Dorothy is that she is she is the villain of that story eyes are open to it
Woke Matt. Thank you so much for joining us and going over these most important topics of the day. I really appreciate it
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All right guys now let's jump into some of your comments regarding episodes and topics past first and foremost that crazy video
We saw earlier this week from the cedars-sinai doctor who said it's totally okay to be fat and that it's okay
and normal to be unhealthy and that people that are telling you otherwise are
Healthism was the word to use we're healthists, which is a very strange thing to hear from a doctor of internal medicine
Jessica writes that doctor who says it's okay to be fat should lose their license
That's a very dangerous stance wait till she gets sued when someone dies and they say well this doctor said it was okay
She's probably not going to get sued is the reality of things is that big pharma kind of if big pharma could have be
Sued there would be no big pharma or if they could be meaningfully sued there would be no big pharma
I mean everything like I've
Explored with you guys that they have pushed over the years or the FDA has pushed over the years and doctors have pushed over the
Years has been abhorrent. They knew that they were harming people but profit was always the motive
Crucial taunt rights being fat is not an immediate problem until you hit middle age and it becomes multiple problems seemingly overnight
It's extremely difficult to fix at that point
I would argue that being fat actually is an immediate problem
and when you hear people talk about what it even feels like to be fat the difficulty that they have
Sleeping that they have breathing that they have getting around and of course
The only experience that I have in that regard is having been nine months pregnant three times
And once you get to nine months pregnant
Just the the aches and the pains that you have carrying around that extra weight
Of course, it immediately has an impact on your mental as well
So, I think it's an immediate problem
But totally agree with you that it becomes even harder to difficult at even more difficult to fix as time goes on
on that same category of big pharma
We covered the fact that they are now recommending ozempic for adolescents
Despite the fact that the FDA insert tells you all sorts of problems
Namely thyroid cancer right at the top a huge warning that can come from this
Gene Simpson writes if a person does not have diabetes
They shouldn't take this medication. It has helped me get my type 2 diabetes under control and to lose some weight
You are correct though that we should also eat as well as we can afford to and exercise as well
Which helps our hearts in addition to toning our muscles. Thanks to this controversy
My doctor now has to submit paperwork to my insurance company
Justifying how it helps me and that is and that it is indeed being used to help control my diabetic condition
The thing about type 2 diabetes is that you can get rid of it if you lose weight
And so obviously I don't know you and I don't want to be judgmental
But there are so many steps that people can take and literal actual steps that you can take
you know, I'm a big promoter of people getting an Apple watch and just starting to walk and taking a few more steps every
Single day until you work yourself up to more
So I I always want to know when you have someone who's a type 2 diabetic and they are turning to
Something as drastic as ozempic or ago V which can cause as we went over gastroparesis
I just I would wonder and want to ask you the question is
Was there nothing else you could have done before that? Is there nothing else that you can do before that?
I think that in general what it is is that you need you're looking for a quicker fix and ozempic is always gonna just be
a quick fix and
You're going to have to figure out how to start living your life in a different manner. We all have the ability to walk
And yeah, that would be what I would offer back
Dr. AL writes. I'm a pharmacist and every day
I see patients who are desperate to get these drugs because of the hype
There is a place for these drugs as legitimate therapy as a piece in a larger plan
It's always balance of benefit versus risks of adverse events
No question
There is an over reliance on drugs and one of the most frustrating and difficult things is to get people to make lifestyle changes the foundation
of their treatment
Also, we only learn about many of a drugs side effects after they are used in the market by a number of people over time
In a way every drug is a poison and should be used at the lowest dose for the shortest time possible
Well, just what you're speaking of is the fact that yeah, these things get FDA approval
And I think it's intentional that they don't want those drugs to be used long-term before they're able to make their billions
Bad things are allowed to happen and then they go
Oh when we learned of these bad things remove them from the shelves when it comes to ozempic and Mugobi though
As I've just said look at the FDA inserts now
It tells you we gave this to mice and when we gave this to mice they developed tumors
So this can develop tumors this can develop a ton of other things stomach paralysis. It's all already out there
People just don't seem to care because we live in a culture where people want a quick fix
They don't want to make an effort every single day
And unfortunately, the thing about quick fixes is that it unless you're going to commit to taking this forever and just not eating forever
And and you're going to endure all of the potential consequences down the line
It's not going to be a long-term fix
And and so I again implore people to consider that before they turn to doctors and drugs
lastly a couple of comments pertaining to the Epstein files quote-unquote release, which obviously is just the
Government trying to get us to stop talking about Epstein by pretending that they're being forthcoming when they've been anything
but
Rockstar turbos rights Wow love the analysis the fact that nobody is being charged is suspicious
I agree that we will never see the files that incriminate them
Frankie mental rights Wow so much more information. Thank you for the clarifying yet disturbing perspective
I love learning from you Candace. I live in California, and I am a Democrat
Thank you for your content. Thank you for
Despite the fact that you are a Democrat
Listening to my content because I don't think it really matters
I think if you are a sane person at this point in society
We are recognizing that something is amiss and nothing is more amiss than what?
Happened in terms of the Epstein case and the attempted government cover-up
Lastly JP writes Candace. You nailed it all this hoopla and still no actual list. They are so full of it
It's infuriating we will never get the actual list
This is just just a bait-and-switch and yes, it is more than infuriating it is disturbing
It is demented and there is definitely something that is happening in DC
Something dark something pertaining to blackmail
and it is the very reason that we feel that we have
Politicians that are well-meaning that go to DC and then something happens to them and suddenly they seem to be doing everything
against the interests of the people that they serve maybe it's because too many of them are being blackmailed and
That is exactly the reason
That Jeffrey Epstein was an agent not of this government, but also
Allegedly of the Mossad, which is what former Mossad agents came out and said
All right, ladies and gentlemen, unfortunately, that is all the time that we have for today
We will see you tomorrow for a brand new episode
