did Michelle yo and kiway K Quan just
get dissed at the Oscars after they
presented their Awards to the winners
David let's talk about this because it's
not just Asians debating this but
non-asians too this reminded me of when
I'm at my company and everybody get
invited to the happy hour except me they
are leaving the Asians out again uh we
got to talk about it Andrew like you
said this is a stir within the
Asian-American internet Community but
also just the Oscars pop cultural
community let's run the Clips in
question Andrew Michelle yo and KIU Kwan
being ignored by em Stone and Robert
Downey
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Jr
Andrew you seen the clips man all right
my first initial take is that the Emma
Stone one isn't that bad I think she was
just very excited she even skips the
first two women who were non-asian right
was it charl Theron I think that's I
don't even know but she skipped them too
and then she went back and shook their
hands very she was just very excited I
could say it in her face Robert Downey
Jr definitely obviously kind of like in
his Tony Stark character or just in this
kind of like cocky manner that he
already is he did kind of skip kiway
Kwan he did he did he didn't even like
acknowledge his existence as a man I'm
not saying backstage later whatever
whatever when you have the FaceTime I'm
talking about in the moment in front of
the cameras in front of tens of millions
of people he didn't even he looked at
him like he was a waiter yeah yeah I
felt like KIU K Kuan even though he won
last year he's not really part of the
Hollywood big Stars you know like of the
popular kids of Hollywood so I guess he
he kind of did diss him and it didn't
look good it didn't look good on Robert
Downey Jr's part after the show I guess
they did talk with each other so I guess
do you think Robert Downey Jr was like
sorry key earlier I I was just in an
adrenaline
fielded Robert it's okay I just thought
you were a statue it's okay I understand
that you know you may not see me you
because I just won last year but like
you know it it did hurt me at first but
you know now that we talk and connect
those people I I have a lot of respect
for you Robert right um you know this
isn't the first time it happened Taylor
Swift recently caught a lot of Internet
flak for quote unquote ignoring Seline
Dion and just grabbing the Grammy from
her and running on stage to give her
speech so David here's my thing I think
this is why people are talking about it
because one they want something to talk
about from the Oscars because nobody
really cares about the Oscars anymore op
was going to sweep anyways we all knew
that but nobody's getting slapped in the
face anymore like Will Smith Chris Rock
yeah but I think also because it's
Robert Downey junor who's kind of known
as like a cool but kind of cocky dude
yeah I'll say a lot of people are like I
love his characters but man he seems
like he'd be a douchebag to me in person
and then kiway Kwan who kind of made
this whole like comeback to Hollywood
after Decades of being out of the game
and not feeling desired by Hollywood
obviously winning an Oscar last year for
everything everywhere all at once and
and then it also really hits a lot of
people and reminds Asians like damn even
at the Oscars when you were last year's
winner sometimes you can still get
ignored and overlooked right and the
truth is I don't think that the other
stars view Michelle or kiway and you
could be more shocked for Michelle but
definitely I think everybody would
understand what I mean by saying kiway
Kwan is not in the Hollywood Elite
because I wouldn't be surprised and this
is my and you know cynical David making
a PR
I wouldn't be surprised if some of them
never even watched everything everywhere
all at once it wouldn't shock me if
Robert Downey Jr has never seen it it I
wouldn't put it pass them yeah yeah and
I think that this is what happens by the
way whether you want to call last year
sweep or whatever like Dei tokenism even
if it was I think there's it's probably
was you mean you you mean to say
everything everywhere all at once
sweeping the awards last year I think
there's pros and cons out of it of
course me supporting Asians I'm still
going to take it but it doesn't mean
it's going to like completely
systematically change everything from
the top down bottom up in that world in
terms of how they view people as their
peers or not peers and I do think Emma
Stone probably is the least familiar
with Michelle's work out of everybody
duh everybody's like a white American
Girl of course they're going to be more
familiar with each other stuff and
Robert Downey Jr I'm sure he's least
familiar with key stuff yeah and I I I
mean I think
that I think just I think here's like a
lesson and this is something that I kind
of experienced as an Asian guy that I
realized like you can do something cool
or something that you think is cool and
notable but until you're in those
circles you don't fully get respect like
you're part of the circle even if you've
done something that other people from
the circle have not done yeah it's all
it's like frats where it's like we're in
rival frats or you're not in the Frat
whatever you did something was cool it's
like yeah good for you buddy I respect
it but when you're in the Frat it's like
brother you achieve something amazing
we're in the fraternity together yeah
yeah so
I think it's a number of reasons because
kiway was kind of like I guess a come up
Story come out of nowhere kind of like a
comeback Redemption story but not
everybody cared about that obviously for
Asians it was great it was inspirational
I'm very happy for him I'm very happy
for everybody part of that movie and I'm
very I'm happy for all of our Asian
friends who were part of any sort of
project that came out recently right
even if it got canceled like ABC or uh
uh brother son but like Kung Fu yeah
Kung Fu uh Olivia uh but what I'm saying
is like I guess I'm still not surprised
because a lot of Asians are not in that
Circle and that's why simu Li is kind of
one of the only ones that's sort of in
those in the Young Circle now yes yes
he's sort of in the Frat yeah he's he's
got a foot in a foot out probably I'll
say this I'll say this I think the
reason why it's going viral and I saw
this comment is because a lot of people
feel like this is the way they get
treated at work or in line at the
grocery store or when there's customer
service greeting people on an airplane
they feel like as a Asian they might get
skipped over more for the greeting than
say for example a white person yeah
listen there's tribalism in everything
and it doesn't even matter if you're an
Oscar winner because there's tons of
Oscar winners that are from
International markets that don't get
love like I don't think like if if uh it
was uh banini what's that Italian
actor's name from a long time ago who
won in like the war movie banini yeah
like there's a lot of actors who won
Oscars at the Oscars but like still are
not beloved by the circles you know what
I mean right right right they're not
like these Hollywood box office TMZ
constantly front page type people um
I'll say this some people were defending
it saying yo I think it was
disrespectful but I think it's a stretch
to say it was racist was it more of a
Hollywood ranking thing or was it an
Asian thing but isn't the fact that
their Asian mean that their Hollywood
rank is going to be newer because
Asian's inclusion into the so it's all
like connected it's like either racism
or positionism but the positionism is
connected to the race
so do you know what I'm saying it's like
it's hard to figure it out cuz they're
like well it's tough because I can't
really name that many Asians that are
part of that Hollywood Circle that that
I would expect it so um it's hard to say
I don't want to like just go out and
just say like people like Robert Danny
Jr a racist I mean he's doing the
sympathizer right he just Robert Downey
Jr just did the sympathizer his team his
team his team I mean I executive
producer whatever it was like so um man
I don't know if it was race first but
definitely way I'm going to be honest
and this is me being happy for him he is
still on the outside even though he
wanted Oscars obviously he's not at at
those parties and all that stuff I'm not
saying you he should be I'm just saying
he's not so that's why well he's not on
Epstein's Island like I'm sure well
thank god he's not but I'm just saying
like he's not yeah I I know what you
mean like these like Elite hyper
billionaire trillionaire power circles
they're just not in them yet um I guess
for me one thing is just like it's
interesting because I do feel like
Asians care a lot about validation from
like the mainstream group of people
whoever's dominating an industry I think
Asians like really really care about
that and sometimes that we don't value
appreciation from our own community
enough yeah dude think about it kiway
literally was probably like what was
that Robert he he ignored me I don't
even care because last year I won best
supporting actor and then this year I'm
a Oscar presenter and this is a dream I
never thought would ever come true so
I'm just happy to be on the stage so if
Robert Downey Jr wants to ignore me
three four five more times that's okay
right right right if uh you know
Michelle got the least love of out of
all the women that Emma Stone showed
love to it's still like a win honestly I
do not think this is my honest opinion I
don't think Michelle yo or KIU Kuan are
feel bad I really don't think so oh no I
don't think so because I think they're
both rooted in Asia to be honest yeah
they I think they're good obviously as
an Asian on the outside looking in
sometimes we get a little sensitive and
we're like didn't Liv to the Asian guy
it's true they didn't yeah and I just
feel like we're we're outside these
systems and we just are trying to make
our way in to get more representation
and obviously have successful careers
but we can't overvalue it either yes it
did
happen what else I don't know yeah like
that happened totally look two for two I
don't know there's some evidence there
how serious do you want to take the
evidence and extrapolate it and what
sort of implications do you want to draw
from it up to you I'm sure depending on
which way your mind leans you're going
to see this see that um ultimately I'll
say this man Andrew J Caspian King he
wrote a book called The Invisible
Americans were these the invisible
Hollywood Superstars I guess you could
say that who's to blame right or wrong
guys let me know in the comments section
below until next time we to hop out boys
we out
peace