3 Reasons Why the UK Real Estate Market is Hot with Samuel Leeds

people are still here making money hand over fist like Grant cardone's a friend of mine you know I saw he just published his numbers he's doing 650 million I think I saw a year in Revenue 300 about half of it 300 plus from his online training courses and conferences and about half of it from his apartment rental income I got a lot of people watching me are from the US but a lot of them like to go and do Global deals so let's say they want to come and drop and start learning the English Market cuz England's one of the biggest markets in the world by GDP if you hated somebody and you had to curse your enemy to be on the worst place major place to do real estate not like North Korea where's one of the big markets that a lot of people think are good but you think are the worst Samuel welcome to the Tai Lopez Show thanks for having me on the original garage show there you go man you were talking about my original garage but you're killing it in the real estate space you know for me always tell people the most millionaires in history self-made millionaires came from Real Estate the most billionaires came from Tech and big Brands the average person though doesn't want to become a billionaire so that's why it's so important I like having real estate experts on my show because real estate still even in the crazy world with high interest rates and so much saturation people are still here making money hand over fist like Grant cardon's a friend of mine you know I saw he just published his numbers he's doing 650 million I think I saw a year Revenue 300 about half of it 300 plus from his online training courses and conferences and about half of it from his apartment rental income so let me ask you this what do you think is the main advantage of the UK England Market in real estate I don't know if you know this versus the US market or other markets what do you like about the market that you're in cuz I got a lot of people watching me that are from the US but but a lot of them like to go and do Global deals yeah so let's say they want to come and drop and start learning the English Market cuz England's one of the biggest markets in the world by GDP I mean there's for me there's loads of advantages to UK real estate yeah um one is the fact that it's I mean everyone speaks English yeah Great Britain yeah and it's a tiny little island yeah there's a massive shortage of houses and overpopulation of people um so I think it's very safe yeah if you got property there but also the uh the opportunities like for example they recently changed the rules and so that you can turn commercial property into residential property so for example if you've got like a block of offices yeah and you want to turn it into Apartments you can do that without getting any planning permission that's crazy CU in the US if in the US we're here in Scandinavia you can't 43,000 permit it's a really tough Market here though in Denmark for Real Estate you've got rent controls um everything's legislated Airbnb is legislated us is that way too but it's not in the UK yeah so there's not really much let's talk about Airbnb 2017 2018 I launched a course called hsmc Home Sharing you know management company how to launch an Airbnb style rent to rent some people call it Rental Arbitrage y so you think UK is wide open for that most of the UK yeah so if you're in England outside of greater London yeah you can do that completely unregulated no license yeah London's a little trickier London's a little tricky yeah if you're in great London but a lot of people do it anyway um and or they go longer I interviewed a guy they will do six Monon vers is like six day you know yeah medium term yeah but you're saying the rest of UK is wide open yeah it is do you ever do anything in Ireland uh I've done stuff in Northern Ireland yes nor okay yeah Northern Ireland um it's it's an interesting Market um but yeah Belfast is is is is a pretty good Market but but I think my my my favorite area is the middle of England that's where I'm from okay so so okay so let's say somebody listening there may be new to real estate or at least new in the UK do you think cuz you you've shown me your properties you've got castles you've got you know strip malls we call them in the US not strippers but strip malls where there's a whole whole bunch of retail and now you've converted it yeah into apartments for people to live you've got Airbnb you've got building from the gr ground up from scratch what do you think of all the categories of real estate if you were starting over now you're a master expert at real estate but imagine you you've had one month experience what do you think is the thing the one type of real estate people should go into is it wholesaling is it Airbnb rental Arbitrage is it developing is it turning you know offices into Apartments what do you think is the best return on your time yeah I think if I was starting again from scratch yeah and I didn't have any money you can't really be a property investor because there's nothing that you've got to invest yeah yeah exactly so you could potentially borrow money and invest someone else's money yeah um so I think I would I'd be a property entrepreneur and I'd say okay how how am I going to make fast pound right from scratch and the fastest way to do that would be from you mentioned earlier we were talking about how the one thing AI can't replace is what personal brand yeah and one other thing personal brand it can't replace being a deal maker right yeah I'd be so I'd be a dealmaker okay so I would find motivated sellers maybe using AI yeah I've got AI software on my phone I'd find motivated Sellers and then I'd find investors Y and midd and be the middle man and get a cut and broke so then you could get you know the way I was telling you the way I would do that if I was starting out would be I get some money up front as a finder fee and I get a little bit of backend equity in the deal so if the thing ends up blowing up into a $50 million piece of property I get paid front and back well my my my my um Network some of my deals that you've seen yeah my students that I have taught yeah have brought me those deals yeah and I've given them like 20 30 grand yeah oh that looks nice back up front yeah so sometimes they've got 100 Grand off the back end yeah and they've got not9 so when yeah basically there's a good book called The self-made billionaire effect 70% of self-made billionaires started in sales or deal making yeah because you don't need any money yeah right you have to be able to sell I think starting from scratch it would just be sales I be like I'm going to sell some stuff but would you become a real estate agent a realtor would you recommend that for people cuz there's in America most Realtors now are quitting I saw a stat like there was yeah because now that real estate interest rates went up well commissions but also interest rates went up people aren't buying uhhuh so when the real estate market was but surely that's the best when people aren't buying because the interest rates are high now it becomes a buyer Market yes and when it's a buy don't think that way you're stupid you're more advanced yeah so that's probably the best time yeah to get a real bargain and then be able to justify a high broker fee in the UK as well you don't need a license so you can just find properties so if I post on my social media who has a UK property and you end up buying it you'll write me a check so that's not the way that we I would necessarily do it what I would do is I would go to High tequil pay and Tequila pay tequila no um if if you if you brought me a deal that was on the market but you negotiated a fee yeah a good price for it and then you brought it to me you're the middleman yeah then you wouldn't need a license but what if I brought you an off Market deal nobody knew about so they needs to have an agent attached to it yeah that's a little bit more tricky because now you would be potentially seen as an agent yes and if you're seen as an agent now you need a license but we get attach an agent to it yeah potentially call up agents or you want but why would you do that why would you go out there and find an off Market deal and then find an agent to attach to it when you can just go to an agent and go what you got for me well I was say cuz I have 7 million social media follows I I'll find deals that nobody has it's just I've been curious about that cuz I've had but most people don't no no for the average person and you we're talking about starting from scratch yes starting from scratch I'd go to an estate agency and we in England as well in the UK it's a bit different in America because in America everything's online so if you want to if you want to buy a property you go online and you search for properties available and then you ring up the realtor and it's all a bit different whereas in the UK you walk into a local estate agency yeah and they give you a board of all the properties yeah and you say well I'm I'm buying cash who's motivated you go and view them you work out a deal and you buy it or you pass it to someone else yeah for sure for me you know in the US market I like to buy Farmland I always tell people you got to pick an asset class that you think you can have an unfair Advantage what is yours for me it's Farmland I as a teenager working on farms I've been to 40 countries looking at Farmland so but what do you consider your we call it deep domain expertise your area of extra skill lease options lease yeah you showed me one with a one pound down $1 down yeah and you got an option to buy it at for 2 million over the next 10 years so if the property value goes up 4 million it will go up 5 million you just purchase it for 2 million flip it the next day yeah you can actually in the US we do cashless options so basically you wouldn't even have to put the 2 million in if you had a a buyer who instantly wants to buy it from you for six you do a simultaneous close you put you so you theoretically in that scenario make4 million off $1 invested yeah plus what you put into the property how much you going to put into that property to fix it about 100 Grand right so you'll end up having 100 Grand and $1 yeah and what do you think it'll be worth realistically I think I've got the option to buy for 2 million it depends on the on the rent because if I'm renting that for the price that I think I will yeah 26 rooms1 1225 a night per room yeah I could be getting a million Revenue so now I'm going to get a commercial valuation yeah what do you think what would that be it's going to be I don't want to I don't want to speak too soon to low end hyper conserving 4 million so basically you put $1 down then another 100 Grand over timeon mhm if you can do a cashless exercise of aable option yep so you'll basically have $1,000 in it and you'll walk with a check for 2 mil minus closing cost mhm so you make 1.7 is 1.6 depending on what you pay but what I'll probably do is just keep it well my plan is I've paid a pound I've got the I've got I've got control of it I'll rent it out and then I'll use the rent and save it up yeah and use that to buy it for 2 million yeah but by the time I go to buy it it'll be worth four and then after I buy it I'll refinance it and get my money back when you're saying you'll make a million back is that your gross receipts from your rent or is that are you saying that's your actual that would be the that would be the top end Revenue so that's rental income yeah you think it'll be a million a year that's that that that would be best case yeah and what's your noi your net operating income kind of after % really M so you operate pretty efficiently yeah so 500,000 we've got a fulltime a full-time guy that's living there so 500,000 of noi of net income yeah you think will sell for about we'll value it at about 4 million yeah conservatively yeah that's a good deal how much time will it take you cuz that's the one thing when people start talking about invesment I'm like you got to put in the time Factor will it take 2 years or 20 years to to do what to make it worth four mil so you've you've got to have it two years to be able to show the books yeah to be able to get the commercial valuation so I reckon probably about 3 years yeah um but hey I'm putting in very little money and that's one of many another thing I do with options is like you with Farmland is I'll buy land MH on an option yes then get planning yes push the value up and then reassign the land to a developer yeah I made 1.6 million doing that in lockdown yeah which I bought my dream house with Y so you you could do that with very little money so your wife's here she doesn't like to be on camera we got to grab some footage here so let me ask you how involved are you in the dayto day I'm not that involved in the dayto day okay I oversee the property managers for our smaller um residential Residential Properties that we have okay but we've got three kids so I just want to be pres with the kids right out the business as when I want you're taking care of them the most important property the three kids you get best return on investment from children so uh how did you two meet well let me ask I like to ask this about couples who fell in love the fastest what's your opinion you don't let him answer cuz the man always I I beat he fell in love what is your opinion Samuel I think I think he was about 5050 is a pretty even spread he locked it down fast yes we were married month yeah people don't realize men in general scientifically fall in love quicker cuz people always think you know women are more n men fall quick oh yeah we been married now they're com up 10 years 10 years but fourth kid on the way nice yeah and she's too humble she does a lot on the business she does a lot she's the real bot she's the she's like the mafia boss she ain't going to tell no mob boss tells you they're the mob boss she's back on constriction quantities V so yeah you you do a lot so do you think you make more money from how this is a controversial question now people online are going secure the bag before you get married and have kids but I'm assuming you may you you told me do you share how much you making profit so how much did you make last year or this year um so so revenues about 20 mil yeah and what do you think profits about uh it's pretty healthy yeah yeah I I know you know more than 5 mil yeah more than 5 mil so when you first met her how much were you making great question when we met I was making about 10 grand a month okay so I was a broke do you describe subscribe to the theory that getting married and having kids made you more money or made you poor yeah see a lot of people out there are saying yeah they the wrong people man they were the wrong people yeah if you were the right person they're going to help you make more money I think yeah and I think that I mean it's interesting as well CU When when we first met I thought that I was rich and my net worth was about 300 Grand yeah but I grew up with nothing yeah so for me I was like I'm rich she made you not so cocky she's like don't be coming here with that L that little 300,000 network no but but but but also you know Amanda grew up reasonably humble beginnings and stuff like that so if ID have told her she would have also thought I was rich I didn't tell her I I I this is interesting story we met at a wedding and we went on a DAT and I didn't talk about money at all we just got to know each other didn't talk about business money um and I was studying in Bible College I was training for theology yeah I did I did my dissertation on biblical economics okay so you were thinking about money even in church biblical economics the reason I did that was because a lot of when I got into business as a Christian a lot of my church folks kind of judged me right and there was a people they qu scripture at me a lot saying you know money is the root of all evil you can't serve God and money and when I was at Barber College I was thinking man when I finish college am I going to continue with my business on that or is it is it sinful right so I did my disseration on it is it ethical to be what was the conclusion the conclusion is that it's not about what you have it's about what's got you it's a heart issue but do you think money slowly but surely exposes you yes but changes you know okay just it magnifies who you already were I I could see that I think people change less than you think from money probably Fame changes people more than money so if you have a friend who's one way then they become you know Leonard DiCaprio that's more likely to change them than if they make a million Buck I don't know cuz I didn't do a disseration on biblical fame biblical fame you should it's never too late to go back maybe so so when you meet the church people do you say I read a stat that Jesus Christ spoke more about money correct than any other subject correct which is pretty interesting maybe in Parables and talking about the the man with the parable the talents and but you know what interesting though at the time when Jesus came I don't know are you religious I'm that's a good question I I like to learn how about that so when Jesus came people thought that if you were Rich it because God was blessing you right and they thought that if you were Rich you're obviously going to go to heaven and then if you're poor it's like oh my gosh you must be in sin right so Jesus spoke against that right blessed are the poor you're right actually blessed are the poor right right and messed with the people but now we've gone the other way right and now people in the church is wear poverty like a badge of honor right and think that if you're rich it's because you've trampled over the poor and you you're spiritually poor actually there's no correlation between your bank balance and your spirituality there's no correlation between how good you are as a person and how rich you are you could be a really rich jerk but you can also be a poor jerk the Bible says that the love of money is the root of evil not money itself but loving money doesn't mean having money in fact most people that are obsessed with money and love it don't have any yeah it's a heart issue so going back to about Amanda is I didn't tell her about the money because I thought I don't want to mess with anything I'm I just said I'm at bible college I'll be a pastor maybe I don't know you're like Chris Rock Chris Rock said when he got famous and Rich he liked to go on dates and pick up girls in a garbage truck and be like I just got off work and if they liked them then you would pull out the rolls-royces right right so you were you at a wedding what was your opening line uh well what was it the opening line I think you just said oh it's the seat free you came ins by me I I also if you remember I um so I used to be a magician so I do like oh you did a little magic like mystery the this kind of thing you know just like you know or like or like or like or like um you know this you just like that so I did a few tracks and uh so I pulled the old magic pick up where you so this is interesting cuz I like psychology I say did you perceive him just as a friend or you saw or you attracted in the first I thought you being friendly at the time yeah it's women you can't men don't realize how often women at first just perceive them as friends yeah friendly guy even after my first dat he gave me like a church hug and I thought okay probably just friends but no it and 9 months later you were married I I told her before I proposed to her I said to her I've not told you anything about my finances I just want to talk to about my finances where I'm at and I told her I was a million pounds in debt which is true because I have got a million B of debt with my mortgages yeah didn't tell her about the net the net you didn't tell the net Equity didn't tell her about the passive income whatever and um and and what did you what did you think when I told you I was a million pounds in debt I was it's okay bab I like you know pay all wait he didn't tell you that on the first date not on the first date yeah don't want to break that too early no that was that was before I proposed to her you could have tried the line you could have been like hi is this seat empty yes um are you good with money cuz I'm a million dollars in debt if she likes you then then you know you don't have a gold digger if it's the first open I'm going to try that as an opening line yeah but now she was just like man we can work hard don't worry about it and then I proposed to her then we got married and then we went same time you right when she said we work through it you're like get married yeah we got married quickly and now we got our fourth kid on the way 10 years married almost and uh and and she's helped me grow the business you know brought her Qs skills quantity surveying and construction into our business and uh yeah we're doing we're doing good and it's good to be able to share back and give and there's a lot of mentors in the space we were talking about this earlier off camera that um aren't making much money doing what they're teaching yeah which is ridiculous yeah you know when I started teaching real estate I I maybe maybe it's because I'm a I'm a a bad businessman in this aspect I don't know but I didn't make any money for four years yeah I was just teaching doing videos YouTube uh running small events and little masterminds I wasn't making any money yeah but I was doing it because I wanted to share I wanted to help people mostly in my church my church folks right and then as it got bigger and bigger I thought okay now I need to take this seriously and now I've got my you know my real estate education business which is which is big I got my finance company and my developments yeah so it's good you're teaching but you also do you're not just somebody who makes your money yeah by teaching about real estate you actually have properties that you go out you fix up you you have to you got to choose got to choose your Mentor carefully right and the probably the worst Mentor though would be a university lecturer teaching business who's on $40,000 a year right what the heck do you know about business but people will applaud it because you get a degree at the end yeah which is just nonsensical people trade a lot for a piece of paper people trade freedom for a piece of paper yeah so going back to uh you know so you got wife seems like helped you to have a family early you're kind of a team what what is the best deal you've ever done the best deal I've ever done if you go only do one deal for the rest of your life over and over you take a deal any of your past deals and you have to do it five times a year which deal would it be I mean the hotels are pretty good we've got we've got a few hotels that from a cash flow perspective but probably the best deal would be there was a factory that I found um that was run down derel yeah and the owner couldn't get planning permission to turn into anything it was just a rundown deret Factory and I agreed to buy it on an option okay um and then I got planning permission to turn it into 48 Apartments okay my option agreement was for 1 million yeah but now just a year or so later the gross development value is 6.7 million and you know once we've ref refinanced it and rented it out like from a rental perspective having 48 units yeah um I mean that is a bit of a peach that that's a banging deal do you can you keep finding those or is that a once in a once in a decade it's tough yeah and that's another reason why I teach yeah because my my students students bring me stuff yeah and I'll pay them 20 grand 30 grand that's why it's so powerful to have a personal brand because with your personal brand you can re you can reach all your followers and all the people that they reach some people forget about a personal brand it's not just who you reach it's every person that your most loyal followers also reach CU they'll make the intro it's the power of the web of a network like a spider web a lot of people think you know oh if I have a million followers that means I can reach a million people no to reach a million people you only need 20,000 followers if they really like you and they're really loyal to you 20,000 followers easily they refer each to two or three friends and those two to three people refer to one or two and you end up with this huge Network yeah was very powerful like the power of personal branding so for you when did you the light bulb go on when you're like I'm not just going to be a behind thes scenes realtor but I'm I mean a developer but I'm going to put my face on yeah I I tell you how it happened the strategy that I was sharing packaging and selling deals being a deal maker yeah I was doing that around about 2012 2012 2013 quite aggressively um and I had a list of people on my email list probably only about 200 people who I'd Market to yeah and then I thought I need to I need to send them stuff y I need to put them a newsletter or a video or something so I made a video on my phone which is just like hey here are the best areas to look for this is the types of deals I'm finding you want to do business let me know you know that kind of video and I put it on YouTube as a platform to send them yeah and it got more views than my list yes and I thought how's that happened because I only sent it yeah I only sent it to 220 people and it's had 300 views how's that possible yeah oh people found it organically yeah that's interesting and that was that was delightful moment yeah when I realize basically you did it by accident but also by being observant CU a lot of people aren't as sharp as you they'll post something to YouTube it gets 5,000 views instead of 200 and they'll never do it again you are smart no I tell people the sickness of entrepreneurs is finding what works but either not being observant or not doing it again so you started doing it more often then yeah upload is YouTube your main Channel yeah what's your second Channel Instagram insta third Tik Tok do you have email list yep yeah we've got a pretty big email list yeah what about some of the smaller channels snap uh not on Snapchat are you on are you on Snapchat yeah is it good 5% of the world logs into Snapchat every day snaps big it's a younger audience but I wouldn't sleep on snap I my thing is don't sleep on any platform you take the same content that you're posting to YouTube and insta and you can stick it on Snap what do you think of threads threads is okay that's I think threads is horrible yeah I would put that as one of the I put LinkedIn ahead of that I put Facebook ahead of that I put obviously Snapchat ahead of that I put being up are you on affiliate networks affiliate networks you you put your offer whatever it be your educational stuff people can email for it and Mark it to their lists and they get paid to cut and you get the customer don't affiliate's huge I know guys making 300,000 a day with a from affiliate traffic they don't have to do any marketing we'll have to talk offline on yeah that's a no-brainer for you to be up on big affiliate networks I would absolutely do that because your own people don't realize Affiliates have their own way of marketing and you get I there's affiliate networks that have a million Affiliates even if they only send you one deal a decade that's a million I didn't know that existed I didn't they even know existed no right yeah so you can only be in one country in the world to do real estate and it's not your hometown of England the UK where are you going first if I'm only going to go to one country I think it's going to be America because America yeah because us is diverse isn't it yeah and if if I had to pick a state in America I probably from my knowledge would probably go Miami Florida yeah yeah for the for the taxes um I've got quite a lot of connections in Florida Miami particularly so I think I think that probably my top my top one country and then after that I would say Ghana Africa Ghana yeah why is that oh it makes massively up and coming really yeah every and Vis are Popp there connections are mhm yeah I've got I own real estate there as well okay yeah so really well if you hate if you hated somebody and you had to curse your enemy yeah to be on the worst piece the worst place major place to do real estate not like North Korea yeah yeah where's one of the big markets that a lot of people think are good but you think are worse well I don't know what you think of this area but this area to me seems terrible no just like copen I what is it called Copenhagen it seems terrible because why well because the the general yields are around about 2 3% yeah so everything's regulated you got rent caps rent controls it's just terrible I don't know what the what but then I mean maybe you can still make money here well one of the richest guys like in Scandinavia and Norway he owns strawberry group big hotel so you got to add value in like just remember cop you could do flips here yeah and copenhagen's I I know an Airbnb guy copenhagen's one in stock one of the safe corporate tax is not bad corporate tax in Scandinavia is the same as American corporate tax what you 25% no 20 in some Sweden I think's only 20 America can be higher yeah and so and again you can have man taxes 25% here as well so how does VAT come in cuz Americans are not used to V how does that come into your rental properties it's a payment vat it's charged on what your rents not on your well it depends on the type of rent if you've got guests in the property okay like if it's like a service department Airbnb mhm that registered man but you charge the customer that yeah but you have to drop your prices so that they can afford it so you can say that about anything with that couldn't you yeah but I'm saying some stuff like I'm doing a rest restaurant here in Copenhagen I actually just got a I got a good tax account doing a business out of it well L we're building a restaurant oh wow Copenhagen you got to remember is the best restaurants in the world statistic they close early though yeah it depends somewhere you got find one yesterday man we were here at 9 not 9ay is a bad time yeah coenen and Scandinavia is very orderly people so Sunday is the day of break so everybody takes a break on Sunday um so it's very little only tourist shops and little you think you can make money in Copenhagen doing property yeah even though I'd attribute it to my worst enemy yes because you know what one of my mentors Joel Salon said he said the cream always Rises to the top of the milk meaning when you're if you're smart yeah in any Market you smell the money and you move so over here it's it's hotels it's again outside of the city airbnbs you know I know a guy inside the there's guys crushing with there's there's this if you go on Airbnb in Copenhagen there's one dude cuz you can see who owns the different properties who has I don't even know how many doors how many keys he has he has probably 200 Keys air to airbnbs here so so you can do Airbnb outside of the city center so it's no different from London would you consider here too would you ever consider cuz you asked the question a lot you asked me what would I do if I was starting again from scratch yes you ever considered just for fun mhm and for social media starting again from scratch I've done this I've done this yeah like I know Grant C own did it after I did it yeah oh really yeah yeah tell grant grant you cop in these UK well he he he was part of a show wasn't the show but but that show though came out in 2019 I did it in 2018 okay you know how long it took me to become better than the average person financially probably not long seven days yeah look if you can sell I I start you know what I did in London I got dumped in London with my underpants no no no phone no laptop no clothes so you were homeless no clothes yeah was this all on camera yep you no long you no longer took me to Broken the first deal I make £3,000 how long a day a day yeah next day in your boxers no because the first thing I did is got cloth older woman who wanted to no no people gave me clothes bro people people just gave me clothes in straight C me felt sorry for me okay gave me clothes that's interesting that's that sort do you do on TV or YouTube YouTube you should watch it I you should do it okay we should do a challenge see see who does it first and and and and how it works what do you consider winning how much money do I have to make from scratch I I would say you either need to make 10 grand yeah from Total scratch referee making sure that you're not tapping into your either a referee or a recurring find a referee for this this is a very special skill uh I'd like a referee who specializes in men in their underwear in London not cheating rebuilding their wealth from scrap well my referee when I first did it was a was was a videographer who was a skeptic of mine okay it was like a hater yeah yeah and you know your haters are going to referee you well that's right what what would you reckon who who would win and Cardone did a damn marketing agency that's what I teach I taught the most would you do my smma I've taught the most people how to do marketing age I own the trademark in the US I would I've also done it where I do phone sales phone sales phone sales I'd find a job yeah that's selling a product at around 10,000 to 100,000 that pays 10% commissions so if I close at 10 to 100 Grand deal I make one are you are you very good at sales I'm pretty good at sales I'd go in a competition against the almost anybody in the world I mean there's probably people better than me but in I've sold you know I'm in the billions in my company's what I've sold and so yeah I would go I mean just phones I always say if you're homeless do phone sales if you've got a th000 bucks start up an agency now you can do marketing agencies that are Niche you can do a Snapchat agency you start by phone house and then when you got your first, then set up an agency yeah do this from scratch document it I did it man I'm like I I mean I that's my life I had no money and I got into sales I used the internet to generate did it but you did it years ago you did it again now from scratch be more visible yeah be more visible I like the one but but I think you got to up to Annie you got to drop a mofo in like Mogadishu Africa or somewhere hard yeah naked now now I'll be impressed cuz people in people in countries like that ain't giving you clothes yeah England you had a little bit of so if I was your skeptical referee I'd be like wait a second you're a white dude in England you go naked somebody's gonna feel bad for you I I'm dropping you off in uh let's see I'm gonna drop you off in in I'll tell you where that you won't get any help India India there's so many homeless people man drop you off in Mumbai or Hydra you want India completely butt naked you're going to die people going to let you die I was at a hotel in Hydra bad M don't tell me this cuz I'll do it I was at a I was at a hotel in hydrat every day we'd walk in there was so many homeless people if you gave one person money it was like 100 people would come Mis Mis Mis Mis so we walked in over this dude who looked like he you know he was like kind of I just thought he was on drugs or something and one day I walked out of the hotel and I stepped over him he was like at the little this was a hosel I didn't have money there and he died of starvation ain't nobody helping you in some of those there's so many homeless people let people starve to death so if you go in with no money yeah the ultimate one of those billionaire what's it called undercover millionaire yeah if you want to do undercover billionaire undercover millionaire I got one for you I'm going to drop your let me pick the city that will be tough and what you where where are you saying India or South Paulo dude homeless people in South Paulo are not like like I lived in La man in the ghetto I was born in the ghetto I've seen my fair share crazy homeless people and Skid Row souo Brazil in downtown boxing that rough place in Zimbabwe Mare Mare yeah oh yeah Africa's Stu about you you pick me a you pick me a location but I'll pick you a location yeah well Africa you I saying Somali some of but Zimbabwe is completely safe you know yeah yeah Zimbabwe not there's no Wars you off naked in Johannesburg you ain't coming Johannesburg probably the most dangerous city that's going to be I actually think Johannesburg will be called it's going to be called underground millionaire cuz you can be buried 6 feet under brother I think it' be it be easier than Zimbabwe I think there's more John johbur no not the ghetto of Johannesburg I think I would rank top three most dangerous places Johannesburg the best place then where would be the easiest for you to be able to starts Helsinki Scandinavia people would have there's no there's like one homeless dude in Copenhagen but there's good business there you can start a business from scratch and smash it yeah so if I could pick anywhere I'd pick America for that America's is gives people first chances nowhere in Europe gives first nowhere in anywhere that's the one look there's a lot of bad things about America the greatest thing of America is the Farmland number one the land of America is the most beautiful fertile multic climate in the world there's no there's other fertile places Ukraine Argentina you know pump us but so number one benefit of America is the physical landscape is is the best in the world at scale but second is Americans give you a first chance everybody give you a second chance but if you go bankrupt in Scandinavia you you it's a little better now but you forever have a stigma people ain't going to ever invest in you again kind of thing scandin Europe even England's a little more like that America I read a stat I'm not even sure if it's true that the average millionaire has three failed businesses before they hit the winner I actually saw Naval rant who's one of the wisest guys out there he started Angel list valued at a couple Bill he said it was his seventh business and we think Mark Cuban I did one a podcast with Mark Cuban once time never forget when I was walking out the door off camera he just turned to me said Ty just remember America you only got to win once so you can fail fail fa fail you win once they only remember your they only remember your success most of the world like Latin America is not that way either Latin America is a little different but Latin America has a lot of class oriented Argentina Brazil there's the classes you know Mexico is very class oriented if you're if you're pale skinn white looking you know America is racist in its own way but not when it comes to money I don't give a [ __ ] if you're a black dude Mexican looking dude and you got a way they can make money they'll shake hands and go to business with it's not so elitist you know like I said America has is is horrible food system probably the worst Food system in the world one of the worst education systems one of the worst lifestyle systems you know America is is how's your friends how's your um gjc going good I just do it amateur are you got bels no no how come I don't I so you on the pads yeah yeah box I I've been doing mixed martial arts since 2003 four but I I'm not in like Jiu-Jitsu I'm just a blue belt I could go for purp you got a belt yeah yeah I got a belt I'm I'm more advanced than people think but yeah to me stick to the thing thing you can be number one or number two in the world at one of my friends is's making about a million bucks a day he's the best introverted marketer in the world he one of his Secrets when he makes a landing page he's like you got to prove that you're number one or number two in the world at this very specific n would you beat up GR Cardone in a fight I don't know if he's trained but put enough money in there I'll fight almost any of the business influencer you put money in I'll take my chances you beat grind you you never I don't think he trains it's not fair to put an untrained person against a train you're a trained person I'm trained for sure I've been fighting you know I've trained with BOS rutin who's heavyweight minitar Nera is a friend like I can hold my own I but I can't be number one or number two in the world therefore I don't want to do it professionally but you do have another influencer someone like Grant cordone or someone like you know me I don't know are you trained I'm probably like I'm probably like you I'm probably like you do you do Jiu-Jitsu or very heavily Jiu-Jitsu okay yeah are you got a built yeah I am yeah I'm um purple purple okay yeah you probably beat me then and jiu-jitsu's boxing though is more fun I think yeah boxing I think he's more fun the thing about fighting that people don't realize we should do a white color man white color boxing yeah the thing I don't like about boxing you got to protect the brain dude I'm I'm friends with with Floyd Mayweather and you know he's he's so good he's been hardly hit he had never been knocked down so you to me the only way I'd want to be a boxer is if I'm like Floyd and you just basically never get hit in your career cuz people don't understand like I train with Pro Fighters a lot of them whether it's Gracies like I said I train with boss Rootin for a long time you get you get hit by a pro one time you could lose you losing five IQ points on one whack so for me you know if you make money you don't have to be your own security boxing um I've done a little bit I've had three I've had three outs boxing yeah people get more brain damage from boxing because the pads allow you to keep getting hit in a bare knuckle fight you go down quick average bar knuckle fights like 30 seconds yeah boxing matches are like 14 would you never do it then or would you never would you never do it not really against Grant or somebody yes but against anybody with real skill the thing about fighting that people don't realize some of it's luck dude because if you're out on the real street you slip on a bottle dude like I grew up in pretty pretty ghetto one of my first memories someone getting shot in the heart in front of me and my mom so I a lot of people that are super into fighting I feel like they didn't grow up around violence my dad was in prison my dad was a violent guy not so much with me but in life and so once you've been around a little bit of violence you're not so excited to go take your chances all the time yeah I think if you can tie in with marketing I had a big boxing match with a guy called Rob have you heard of Rob Mo B Rob he's he's got a large property beating up your competitor yeah did you win yeah I won yeah raised 200,000 of Charity but the thing is it was actually probably better for him than it was for me right because even though he lost he got the exact same publicity on there and everyone loves an underdog yeah and I was heavier than him I don't know what do you weigh you must be about 80 kg yeah about then yeah yeah what are you weigh um about 85 yeah yeah Jake Paul and and his brother Lo Logan those guyy I've known them for years and um they're pretty fighting Mike Tyson there're I mean Jake Paul hasn't been boxing his whole life so he's not GNA like if you look at some of the the boxers out there like Canelo yeah Floyd Mayweather and he's not like that but he's a strong guy that's what people don't realize those he's that cornbread cornfed mashed potatoes MidWest American Vibe so those dudes hit you hard is not how old are you people always ask I've been keeping that controversial there's like four different websites that people are trying to guess my age none of them are right that's the ironic that's one thing I've learned you've got to be about around 40 could be if I tell you you know one thing I've learned yeah you should I'm going to give this the three most Googled things that are going to be Googled about you me your age and your net worth and then sometimes your girlfriend wife okay those are the three when you look on Google search R so keep keep all of those a little mysterious I'll ask you those three questions you can answer as mysterious as you want all right at least I can then put in the title I asked him this yeah all right so how old are you I'm going keep him mysterious on all three so not going to be three good questions cuz you'll never three good questions and three bad answers three bad answers that's right how old are girlfriend do you have a girlfriend not right now no do you have kids yes how many kids how many kids I won't say but you want to say I have kids that's I think you're the first podcast I've ever said yes to really so I gave you it's exclusive is new it is exclusive and how how how old are you roughly well you're only going to get one of them when's your birthday when's your birthday one of three when's your birthday April April the what that I'm not going to say the reason you shouldn't say your I'm April by the way I'm ail don't ever say your day in America that's how people steal your identity yeah dude part of the reason I don't say My AG I've already secret I've already had people try to take out mortgages in my name we catch stuff identity all time your net worth that one I always say more than 5 million that's what I tell yeah that's called it obious though but I tell well Mr Beast came to visit me he wanted to visit me once he came and he said Ty man is your net cuz I was at probably the most baller place in New York City I had in Manhattan it was 9,000 foot 900 square penthouse on billionaire roow he's like is your net worth 5 million I'm like that's what I want it to be sometimes I think SEO people have changed it now but I always try to SEO it down to 5 million because in America you know who googles you first lawyers okay lawyer and if you what if it's hard then they'll charge you more no they sue you oh I first moved into that big house in Beverly Hills within 30 days I had different M AG it I've had to be very careful with you don't have to worry as much in the UK you're not American dude it's America that has litigious because in America is different laws in America if you bring a [ __ ] lawsuit and you lose you don't have to pay their legal fees in the UK you yeah so people don't bring so many frivolous they still have frivolous lawsuits in America listen to this I'm moving to this house big house I needed like five Maids cuz it was 17 17 bedroom 18 bath first month we get a lawsuit one maid who worked one day said she was taking out of the trash and slipped on a banana peel no joke like a cartoon character so that was the first time once people you live in Beverly Hills you got to worry about every single person so I always tell dudes especially man guys out here all be want oh I want to be a high value man I want my net worth High I'm like put it at 5 mil because if you're dating and a woman's not impressed by 5 million if she's not impressed by 5 million you definitely don't want to marry her I remember I had this one Russian girl once com in my garage I had six badass cars it was millions in cars I had two Rolls-Royce one was the only Rolls-Royce of that color in the world one or in the United States one was a Rolls-Royce that one of Miami Heat was going to get Chris Bosch and I got it instead and it was a pinstripe thing these are the most expensive cars an Aventador okay convertible Aventador all this and she comes in and she's like is that the older Ferrari model it was like a three-year-old Ferrari you know Ferrari and I was thinking thank God I brought this girl in the garage so I don't have to I know that she's a walking red flag yeah don't think anyone that knows the differences how the mirrors have changed in the last 12 months on new Ferrari models she was like I'm not impressed by this garage I'm like I'm so happy to hear that I'm like so now I'm going to put in a car I'm going to put in like a old dump truck or something in there and be like well let's go on a date yeah yeah but you got married young 22 Yeah so now 20 I was 23 actually do you think what do you think right now let's do hypothetical yeah you never got married you're out partying or whatever I never been partying but okay but do you think you would be significantly lower net worth if you didn't have your three kids and one on the way a wife of 10 years or you think be similar I reckon it'll probably be similar so you don't think you'd have made more you don't think it's been a distra I definitely think I def I definitely don't think I'd have made more I don't think that being married having kids has hindered me in any way yeah has it made me more successful I would probably say yes because I've got a beautiful wife that takes care of me and I can is a sounding board and a rocking adviser that does stuff and you know my kids is motivation so if anything it's made me more successful but unfortunately we can never split test and seek come I right so who knows maybe I'll be maybe I'll be a billionaire maybe there's parallel universes a lot of the smartest phys physicists believe in Multiverse Theory which is that there is another Universe right now where you're completely single but there not is there well you're you're Christian so you wouldn't believe that what what what what what are you is that another question is that another controversial one um I I do you believe in God do you believe there's a God that creat us that's I would say depends on your definition of God is there a man is there a no a Creator do you believe that you are created it I can say yes to that I could say yes or no because you believe in more of a personal God right yeah God Jesus and the Holy Spirit right yeah so I I could even see that being true but I could see it also not being true that's the problem with me no that's fair so I don't think it's agnostic yeah but agnostic would believe we can't know at all so don't ever talk about I believe it's good things to think about I think about spiritual things a lot but I think that there're so for example in my theory I think there can be your exact version of God could be true but it might that might be in one Universe there can be more than one but that you wouldn't like that one because CHR would not agree with that I that doesn't make any sense to me yeah at all well Christians are that there's one God one Universe create how long ago do you think the universe was created or the world do you believe it's like young like 10,000 years ago well I believe the the scientists say that it's billions of years yeah which doesn't contradict anything in the Bible okay so do you think Evolution's true or do you think it's more every species that's now on Earth was created at the moment of of creation I think that evolution is true okay to a point right I don't think that you've got a piece of slime that then became something different and then slowly became a man evolution is obviously true because if you just look at dogs and animals and the way things develop and change over time basketball players have even as humans look how we've evolved so I definitely believe in evolution but I don't think that we necessarily started so do you think that anybody who does not sincerely says I don't don't believe in Jesus Christ mhm will they die and go to a Perpetual torture hell type place I don't know I don't know I mean do you think there'll be billions of people in Hell or are in hell yes okay I think they will is it just evil pure evil people like serial killers or are there just regular people who for whatever reason like for example my stepgrandpa yeah I said what happens if you die and you go to heaven and there's a God and he says you're going to go to hell and why didn't you believe in me he said he would say I thought you were a cruel person and I'm glad I didn't believe in you and then he said I'd be accepted because he thinks it's unfair that God created everything and knowing that billions of people would be in Perpetual torture so he does he he he thinks if that God's true that he wouldn't even want to believe he wouldn't want to serve that God even if it turns out to be true so I think in I mean listen these are questions that no one knows you went to Bible theology yeah that's true that's true so my my my understanding is that hell is not um active torture and Punishment okay hell is the separation from God right so if you reject God and say I think God's cruel and then God says okay right you're not with God anymore but when you're not with God all good things come from God so if there's no light and there's no what if you grew up in India your mom and dad was a sik or Hindu and you sure you may be heard of Christianity but most of us accept what our people we admire believe MH you think those people should be separated eternally from goodness I mean I'm I'm not the judge so for any person to say that person should go to hell or that person should not is completely wrong God is the judge but I believe that I'm Christian I believe that Jesus is the way the truth and the life and all that go through Jesus enter into heaven so do you think Christianity is superior to the other Islam Hindu Buddhism Judaism um I think that all or breaks a better Society let's forget the what's true do you think do you think it makes a better Society than if Society was all Muslims or all atheists or all all religions teach the same thing which is effectively they've got God in different names but effectively it's do good things what if you're a Satanist though if you're a Satanist they believe the opposite is that a religion though probably not yeah something so religions is all about do good things and then go to heaven and if you do enough good Apache Indians used to be like skin your enemies alive they didn't quite believe in the same but generally speaking if you look at siks Muslims Hindus yeah the modern religion it's do good things and then you'll be judged according to what you did what about a Muslim that says Jihad against the West because the West does not conform to Shar that that that would be their equivalent of doing good things because they're protecting their religion and they're right but you don't bu agree with that sure no no no but I don't agree with religion in in general I don't believe that if you do I don't think that you'll be judged and go to hell according to what you did or didn't do right cuz I'm Christian so as a Christian we believe that Jesus right took the sin of the world so that we believe in him right and it's not about it's not about what we do or what we don't do it's about what he did yes that's the difference this was a nice light podcast this is this is good i i people have asked me to talk on this I gave you a couple exclusive things there we go I appreciate it man I'm glad we got back to the airport on time yeah and Ty lopez.com Samuel if you want to see show notes links to what Samuel's doing all we got a page up Ty lopez. /s Samuel grab access follow what he's doing learn real estate it's made the most millionaires even if you're like me and real estate's not your number one thing real estate and your three thing you always need a portfolio of three business activities three income sources real estate basically always should be one of them I can't think of one person none of the wealthy people in the world have zero real estate maybe Elon Musk he says he has but he's got real estate on Mars and he has but he's got Mars yeah he he wants real estate on another planet he's next level so even then he's into real estate all right my man love