What the Fossil Fuel Industry Doesn't Want You To Know | Al Gore | TED

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In a blistering talk, Nobel Laureate Al Gore looks at the two main obstacles to climate solutions and gives his view of how we might actually solve the environmental crisis in time. You won't want to miss his searing indictment of fossil fuel companies for walking back their climate commitments -- and his call for a global rethink of the roles of polluting industries in politics and finance
The most important question these days is how can we speed up the solutions to the climate crisis?
I'm convinced we are going to solve the climate crisis. We've got this, but the question remains
will we solve it in time? Others have said we're kind of in a race. I'll give you the
the shortest definition of the problem. If I was going to give a one slide slideshow,
it would be this slide. That's the troposphere, the lowest part of the atmosphere. You already
know why it's blue. That's the oxygen that refracts the blue light. If you could drive a
car at highway speed straight up in the air, you'd get to the top of that blue line in about five to
seven minutes. You could walk it in an hour. All of the greenhouse gas pollution is below you.
That's what we're using as an open sewer. That's the problem. It's causing a lot of
second and third order consequences. We saw some of them in the northern tier cities,
including Detroit. This one's from New York City. All the fires in Canada. We have gotten used to
the fact that the world suffers deep droughts and huge rain bombs and downpours and floods
simultaneously. The really ingenious new gravity measuring satellite has given us for the first
time the opportunity to see how this plays out worldwide. We get these huge surpluses of
water, the rain bombs and the droughts simultaneously. As you can see, the amplitude
is increasing. At both ends of our planet right now, we're seeing signs of distress. Of course,
I've often said every night on the TV news is like a nature hike through the book of Revelation.
Just today, big flooding in Montpelier, Vermont, in southern Japan, in India. I haven't done a
complete scan, but every single day it's like that. In Antarctica, some scientists who are
normally pretty level-headed are getting a little bit freaked out, I would say, is a fair definition
of about the lowest level ever at this point in the year of sea ice. At the other pole in the
North Atlantic, we're seeing literally off-the-charts temperatures. Obviously, the crisis
has to be addressed. The good news is, as others have often said, we are seeing tremendous progress.
It starts with the Inflation Reduction Act here in the United States. President Biden and Congress,
they have passed the best, biggest climate legislation in all of history. It's said to be
$369 billion, but the heavy lifting is done by tax credits. Most of them are open-ended.
The early applications already show it's going to be well over a trillion dollars,
maybe $1.2 trillion. This is really good news. One month after that passed, Australia changed
its government and started changing its laws. It's now a pro-climate nation. A month after that,
Brazil did the same thing. New president, new policies protecting the Amazon.
Throughout, the European Union has resisted the efforts of Russia to blackmail it into supporting
its sadistic and cruel invasion of Ukraine. There are other signs of success as well. China's
reached its renewables target five years ahead of time. It's still building a lot of coal,
but only 50% capacity utilization. There is lots of good news. Still, in spite of this progress,
the emissions are still going up. The crisis is still getting worse faster than we are deploying
the solutions. Maybe it's time to look at the obstacles that are standing in our way. I'm going
to focus on two of them this afternoon. First of all, the unrelenting opposition from the fossil
fuel industry. A lot of people think they're on side and trying to help, but let me tell you,
and the activists will all tell you this, every piece of legislation, whether it's at the municipal
level, the regional or provincial level, the national level, or the international level,
they're in there with their lobbyists and with their fixers and with their
revolving door colleagues, doing everything they can to slow down progress. So, speeding up
progress means doing something about this. They have used fraud on a massive scale. They've used
falsehoods on an industrial scale, and they've used their legacy political and economic networks,
lavishly funded, to capture the policymaking process in too many countries around the world.
The Secretary General said the fossil fuel industry is the polluted heart of the climate crisis.
Now, that's not to say that the men and women who've worked in fossil fuel for the last century
and a half are not due our gratitude. They are, and they didn't cause this, but for decades now,
companies have had the evidence, they know the truth, and they consciously decided to lie to
publics all around the world in order to calm down the political momentum for doing something
about it, so they could make more money. It's simple as that. And now, they have brazenly
seized control of the cop process, especially this year's cop in Dubai in the United Arab Emirates.
Concern has been building about this for quite some time. I remember when there were so many
fossil fuel delegates in Madrid, but by the time we got to Glasgow a year and a half ago,
the delegates from the fossil fuel companies made up a larger group than the largest national
delegation. Why? Why? Because they're helping, they're not helping. They're trying to stop
progress. And last year in Egypt, they had more delegates than the combined delegations of the 10
most affected countries by climate. And now, this year's host, which is a petrostate,
has appointed the president of COP28 in spite of the fact that he has a blatant conflict of
interest. He's the CEO of the Abu Dhabi National Oil Company, owned by Abu Dhabi. Their emissions
are larger than those of ExxonMobil, and they have no credible plan whatsoever to reduce them.
So, this is the person in charge of the cop. He's a nice guy. He's a smart guy.
But a conflict of interest is a conflict of interest. And a matter of fact, they have a plan
now to have a new increase in their emissions. Their plan is to increase the production of both
oil and gas by as much as 50 percent by 2030, which is the same time frame when the world
is trying to reduce emissions by 50 percent by 2030. And the same person has been put in charge
of both of those efforts. Direct conflict of interest. I think it's time to say,
wait a minute, do you take us for fools? Do you think you can just completely remove the disguise
and we won't notice? The fossil fuel industry has captured this process and is slowing it down,
and we need to do something about it. Now, they plan to increase their emissions.
Getting all hot and bothered here. The head of the International Energy Agency
was talking about several oil companies who have publicly pledged to increase their oil and gas
and simultaneously pledged to comply with the Paris Agreement. Do you take us for fools?
You cannot do both of those things simultaneously. And if you think we believe you when you say that,
we beg to differ. Last year at the COP, the fossil fuel petrostates vetoed
any mention of phasing down fossil fuels. They say, oh, that's not the problem.
One of the Secretary of State equivalent in Saudi Arabia said, we don't see this as a discussion
about fossil fuels. Let me tell you, the climate crisis is a fossil fuel crisis.
The solutions are going to come from a discussion and collaboration about phasing out fossil fuels.
And there's only so much longer they can hold this up and tie us down and keep us
from doing the right thing. Now, the Director General of this year's COP, working under Sultan
al-Jubeir, he worked for Adnok also. He was seconded for several years to Exxon Mobil.
He said, no, that's all changed. This year, they've changed. The fossil fuel companies
are really engaging us. They have changed. Yes, they have changed. They've changed for the worse
this year. You don't believe me? Look at this. BP, they said, we're going to net zero. There's
no turning back. A few months ago this year, they turned back and they decided to roll back
their investments. Exxon Mobil, oh, my God. This is minor compared to their industrial scale lying,
you know, but they've had all the TV ads on, particularly in the U.S., about revolutionizing
biofuels. You wouldn't believe what algae can do. Well, for 14 years, they ran this program
and they spent 50 percent as much on the ads about the program as they did on actually trying
to come up with new biofuels. And then a couple of months ago, they said, oh, we've changed our
mind. We're just going to cancel that program. The industry as a whole has not been acting in
good faith. Shell reversed its commitment to increase their investments in fossil fuels.
They announced just a couple of months ago they're going to plow that money into expanding
oil and gas production instead. So are they did they miss the memo? Well, no, they say they've
discovered a way out. They're telling us now that the problem is not fossil fuels. It's the
emissions from fossil fuels. And so all we have to do is to capture the emissions from
the fossil fuels. Now, I'm all for research and development into trying to capture emissions
or sucking it out of the air if they want to do that. But let's don't pretend it's for real.
Maybe someday it will be. Maybe someday it will be. Now, this is the head of ExxonMobil saying,
not oil and gas, it's the emissions. And Abu Dhabi, they have said they've already decreased
their emissions from producing oil and gas. Ninety nine point two percent. The point two
makes it sound even more authoritative. Is that feasible? Have they really done that? Is there's
carbon capture technology that's that good? Well, Climate Trace can measure it now. Let's just look.
There's their CCS capability. Oh, but they've got a great improvement in the work. Seven years
from now, they're going to have a five hundred percent increase in their capacity. But here are
the emissions from oil and gas production alone. And here are the emissions of greenhouse gases
from Abu Dhabi, from the UAE. Now, the pathetic little sliver there compared to the reality again.
Do they think we don't see what they're doing? Don't understand what they're doing? A lot of
people maybe just want to look away from it. Pretty ironic here in this country. You know,
the coal burning utilities have been given a new mandate this year by the EPA. You got to clean up
your act now. You can keep on burning coal and you can keep on producing electricity with it if
you use carbon capture and sequestration. Well, they scream bloody murder. Another story about
it this morning. But they say that technology, that's not feasible. It's not technically feasible,
not economically feasible. So they need to get their story straight, in my opinion. So
the technology of CCS has been around for a long time, 50 years. And we get used to technologies
automatically getting cheaper and better, you know, with the computer chips and the cell phones
and all that. Well, University of Oxford did a whole study and some fast, some come down and
cause fast, some slow. A few are in a category called non-improving technologies.
And that's where carbon capture and storage is. 50 years, not any price decline. Well,
could we get a breakthrough in spite of that? Maybe. We're throwing a lot of money at it. We
had to do that to get the compromise that passed the IRA. And we ought to continue the research.
But again, let's don't pretend that it's here. It's not here now. And to use it as
an excuse right now, they've got another one now. It's called direct air capture.
These are giant vacuum cleaners that use an awful lot of energy. It's technically feasible,
but it's extremely expensive. And it also uses so much energy, but it is tremendously useful.
You know what it's used for? The CEO of one of the largest oil companies in the U.S. told us
what it's useful for. It's useful to give them an excuse for not ever stopping oil. A few months
later, she said, this gives us, this new technology, a license to continue operating.
Some people call that a moral hazard. For them, the moral hazard is not a bug. It's a feature,
as the old saying goes. So let's just look at it. This is state of the art. Looks pretty
impressive, doesn't it? This is the backside of one of these machines. I had the same thought.
Now, they're improving this. They're improving this. And the new model, seven years from now,
each of these machines is going to be able to capture 27 seconds worth of annual emissions.
That gives them a license to continue producing more and more oil and gas, or so they claim.
Well, they also say, the experts, that in order to be economically feasible, it has to come in
at $100 a ton or less. The leading company says that 27 years from now, it may come down below
three times that amount. So again, if this sounds kind of incredible, it is not credible.
But they're using it in order to gaslight us, literally. But I didn't mean it as a pun,
but that's what they're using it to do. And we can't fall for it. The biggest obstacle to direct
air capture is probably physics. And what I mean by that, they've explained this to me. CO2 makes
up 0.35% of the air, so we're going to vacuum the other 99.96% to get that little bit out.
Come on. Really? Come on. And it doesn't even pretend to catch the methane, or the soot,
or the mercury, or the particulate pollution that kills 9 million people a year around the world.
And that's why the climate justice advocates are so down on this kind of nonsense.
They say, here's one of them says, look, we need to fight climate change, but don't do it by
pretending to do it and continue dumping all this pollution on the frontline communities that are
downwind from the smokestacks. And that's why they have not ever really liked the carbon capture.
And what about all the energy that's needed? Is it going to come from more fossil fuels?
Well, in case of accidental, yes. But could it come from more solar and wind? Well, if so,
why not use the solar and wind to replace the fossil fuel burning plants that are putting all
that stuff up there in the first place? Doesn't that make sense? Am I missing something? Anyway,
this is the environmental justice advocate who is making the point that you can't do it without
protecting those who are victimized downwind from the smokestacks, downstream from the pollution.
Now, some other companies, of course, you say we're going to offset our emissions. And again,
offsets can play a role, a small role, five to 10 percent, according to the Science Based
Targets Initiative, the most authoritative source on all of this. But, you know, Chevron just had
its offsets analyzed. It turned out 93 percent of them were worthless and junk. And that's too often
the case. It's not a get out of jail free card. And their offsets were only aimed at 10 percent
of their emissions in the first place. Eighty percent of the fossil fuel companies just
completely ignore the scope three emissions, which is the main part of their pollution problem.
So they say that they have increased by 400 percent the share of their spending on energy
that goes to green technologies and carbon capture. And yes, they have. They've increased
it all the way up to four percent. And it's not even as good as that, because if you look at the
windfall profits they've been getting, what have they done with that? Well, they gave it back to
the shareholders through dividends and stock buybacks. So the amount of money the fossil
fuel industry is investing in renewables and carbon capture is one percent. Does that mean
they are sincere actors working in good faith? I don't think so. A lot of people still think so.
They think they're on our side. I don't think it's in their nature to be on our side. I think
they're driven by incentives that push them in the opposite direction. But in any case,
they produce no solutions whatsoever that are scalable or remotely feasible. And again,
they have actively fought against the solutions that others have been trying to bring.
I've seen it personally. Many of you have seen it personally. And it's happening
all over the world. No progress. They've even gone backwards. Now, if a company says, look,
we shouldn't be excluded from the COP process, we know a lot about energy. Here's a simple test.
Do they actually have, does the company have real net zero commitments, a genuine phase down plan?
Yes or no. Are they committed to full disclosure? Yes or no. Are they going to spend windfall
profits on the transition? Yes or no. Are they committed to transparency? Will they end their
anti-climate lobbying? Will they end their greenwash? Will they be in favor of reforming
the COP process so that the petro-states don't have an absolute veto on anything the world wants
to discuss or act on? We've got to change that. In order to move faster, we have got to empower
the global community in a way that frees them from the hammerlock that the fossil fuel companies
have on them today. And any company that doesn't pass this test, I'm telling you,
ought to be prohibited from taking part in the COP process. What about the company that's led by
the president of this year's COP, the Abu Dhabi National Oil Company? Well, it's rated one of the
least responsible of all the oil and gas companies. It no longer even releases information on any of
its submissions, has no transition plan, no short or midterm target, scores a pathetic three on a
hundred scale on their transition plans, and the nation's plan is rated highly insufficient.
They just put out a new one. It's still insufficient. So that's the first obstacle.
Second one's a lot clearer. This one has to be removed in order to get to the faster solutions.
But in order to remove it, we've got to do something about the second obstacle,
and that is the financial system, the global allocation of capital, and the subsidies for
fossil fuels. Governments last year around the world subsidized, with taxpayer money,
more than a trillion dollars subsidizing fossil fuels. That's five times larger than the amount
in 2020. Are we going in the right direction or the wrong direction? Well, there are a lot of good
things I'll show you, but this has to stop. And the 60 largest global banks have put five
and a half trillion extra dollars into the fossil fuel companies since the Paris Agreement,
and preposterously 49 of them have also signed net zero pledges. So global allocation of capital,
the borrowing of private capital, is ruled out for many developing countries. Nigeria has to
pay an interest rate seven times higher than Europe or the US. Political risk, corruption risk,
currency risk, offtake risk, it's rule of law risk. That's why the World Bank and the other
multilateral development banks are supposed to take those top layers of risk off. And that's why
we need reform in the World Bank. Thank goodness so many fought to get a new head of the World Bank,
and I'm very excited about his progress. Now, when these obstacles are removed,
we can really accelerate progress. There'll still be problems, of course, but we have everything we
need and proven deployment models to reduce emissions 50 percent in the next seven years.
But we will still need better grids, more resilient grids, more solar and wind,
much more regenerative agriculture. That's a way to really pull carbon out of the air.
More electric vehicles and charging stations and more energy storage. I'll show you that
just before we quit here. And more green hydrogen, so more electrolyzers to produce it. And these are
all surmountable obstacles. Already, renewables account for 90 percent of all the new electricity
generation being installed each year worldwide, 93 percent solar and wind in India last year.
And of course, the solar is taking off and so is wind and so are the electric
vehicles and battery storage. It has grown so dramatically. You've got to rescale the
graph to look at the trillion dollar industry emerging now. Just seven years ago, there was
one gigafactory. I learned from one of you at a session a couple of hours ago and had my staff
resurgent. There are now 195 gigafactories and another 300 in the pipeline. So will we succeed?
Some people fight with a vulnerability to despair. You know, the old cliche,
denial ain't just a river in Egypt, despair ain't just a tire in the trunk. There are people
that are vulnerable. But let me close with what I regard as amazingly good news. What if we could
stop the increase in temperatures? Well, if you look at the temperature increases,
if we get to true net zero, astonishingly, global temperatures will stop going up with a lag time
of as little as three to five years. They used to think that positive feedback loops would keep that
process going. No, it will not. The temperatures will stop going up. The ice will continue melting
and some other things will continue. But we can stop the increase of temperatures even better if
we stay at true net zero in as little as 30 years. Half of all the human caused CO2 will come out of
the atmosphere into the upper ocean and the trees and vegetation. So young people are demanding
that we do the right thing. Do not be vulnerable to despair. We are going to do this. And if you
doubt that we as human beings have the will to act, please always remember that the will to act
is itself a renewable resource. Thank you very much. Thank you.
