Интервю на независима журналистка от Италия с Ивелин Михайлов за Исторически парк

A few days ago I told you about this meeting, a meeting that I have to say is getting more and more fantastic, it has more and more magic, and also how this meeting happened, but I will tell you about it in another moment, because I would like to focus the attention instead on what I have seen today and on what we are going to discover. Thanks to Evelyn Mialdor. Ok? Ok. You know my name. Is this better? Yes. Is this better? Ok. So, I was saying, I want to make you discover what I have discovered. Today, seeing this wonderful meeting, we will talk about the fundamental concept, how the attacks that are taking place, on the part of the local community, and all that is happening. But let's go one by one, because we are looking for the possibility, which was kindly lent to us, for the translation, of this fundamental concept, which, as I said, not only helps us to identify ourselves, we are not big, we are not massive, we are not people. I want to tell you that we are people, especially volunteers, who have decided to make this place special and to give it life. So, everything respects the Byzantine style, the style of the trace, of the Bulgarian life. And it's all done by us, in short, by the people of the place. I can tell you that here everything is done by hand, by local people, all the products are organic, everyone works the land, and that's it. I pass the word to our journalist, with the questions. First, before we translate, Ivelin, what did we say? Because otherwise, maybe she thinks we sold it to her, but it's not like that. Ok, perfect. So, after I tell you, she talks about you, about how beautiful this place is, which she saw, and she gave her word to me. I said, why is this place so special? You produce everything yourself, a new life is given to this village. This village, which was literally left without people, is being reborn. And what is so beautiful, that people voluntarily decide to help and to contribute, whoever can, for something, to come back to life. Yes, in general, we help over 30 villages, with what we produce, and we have the potential to bring back Bulgarian tourism, from Bulgaria to Montenegro, which was killed by COVID-19 and the war in Ukraine, because the main tourists here were Russians. Yes. What I would like to say, is that we are giving work to over 30 villages, which are located around here, precisely because we want to bring back tourism, which was going down after COVID-19, and above all, with the war in Ukraine, because the majority of our tourists here in Bulgaria are Russians, we know that, so this has created a lot of inconvenience. Let's go in order, then we'll get to you. I would like to understand first, how your idea was born, which, if I may use the term, is a bit crazy, to start from nothing to create this immense park. I would like to understand, to start from the beginning, how your idea for this park was born, because this idea looks a bit crazy, so many problems, so many obstacles, how do you deal with all this? Well, first of all, I am a person who grew up in the two buildings in Bulgaria, there was a transition here, we went from socialism to capitalism, and this was a big shock for the whole country. In the beginning, we all wanted to make more money, this was the main thing. We thought that, when we are already in Europe, in a new environment, everything is fine, everything is fair, the only thing we have to do is to make money. He says that it was born in a time when Bulgaria was divided, first there was capitalism, then socialism, so he says, we had this idea that money was everything, so we all wanted to get rich, we all wanted to make money, this was our idea, in a sense of freedom, to create something new, but then I found out that this was not the case. When I was little, I grew up with my grandparents, they took care of me, because my parents were not Bulgarians. They loved Bulgaria, they were teachers, they taught me history, they fed me with love to Bulgaria and to my family. I grew up with my grandparents, they taught me the values of Bulgaria, my parents separated, so I lived with my grandparents, my grandfather was a history teacher, and they were the ones who taught me the love for Bulgaria, for its culture, for its art, for everything that concerns our country. And in my desire to make money, I stopped looking at the state, I focused on making money better. At one point, when I made enough money, I saw that the people around me had no children. At first I tried to make money, but I succeeded in this attempt, but I realized at the same time that when I made money, I left my country, so I no longer had an eye for my country. And in all this, I realized that people no longer had children, there were no more prospects here in Bulgaria, so there was some problem that went beyond the economic point. And then I read that in Bulgaria the population disappeared very quickly, and I asked them why none of them have children, so it is possible that Bulgaria will disappear as a nation, and it turns out that the young people do not know what Bulgaria is like, they have no love for their country, and this surprised me a lot. I came to a point where I started asking people around me why they don't have children, why this development is no longer increasing our population. And I realized that not only this was the problem, but also the young people do not know our culture, they are totally disinterested. And then I decided to do something. I thought that Bulgaria is a country in the European Union, and I believed that the European Union has values, in which we have a fair judicial system, that people have rights when they do business, and I saw that people do not believe that Bulgarians can do big business, they do not believe that Bulgaria can do something big, and they did not like the country itself. And I decided to do a project to show that we can do big business, we can make them love the country again, and to do so that it will develop the local economy. At this point, I started asking for help. I realized that Bulgaria, being a country that is part of the European Union, could develop, grow much more. The problem was that no one gave us this help, and we realized that we were literally depopulating. Who did you ask for help? The European Union, or in general? Which country did you ask for help from? The European Union? I know that in Bulgaria there is a very strong mafia, and in order not to take money from them, I decided to do it without the European Union, without the state, so that they would not say that I am taking money from them. Because in Bulgaria, the state mafia and the oligarchs are used to that all the money is theirs, European and state. And I decided to do it with ordinary people, to unite ordinary people, to do it without taking any state, municipal or European money. I decided to do all this with local people, with people close to me, precisely because in Bulgaria the mafia prevails, so that everything that is of the European Union is in a certain sense also of the mafia itself, so that the oligarchs and the mafiosi here think they have everything in their hands. And in order not to have a kind of something that could be twisted against me in the future, I decided to invest everything and do everything with my means and my money and people close to me and not ask for help from the European Union. So, the model is a very particular model, what you have chosen. We would like you to explain it so that people could somehow understand it. They really like your vision, they really like the way you work. Would you like to share the idea for more people to be like you and to use your way? Yes. I believe that if people want to be free, they need to learn how to live with their money and to create their own good. This makes them free and gives them the opportunity not to depend only on the rulers, but to be able at some point to form their own destiny. In Bulgaria, there is a similar moment when we were under the Ottoman Empire. We have no education and the Bulgarians themselves organize an educational system as all ordinary people pay and the Bulgarian children become one of the most educated in the world without having a state system. He says that his idea was to inspire me a little to how our ancestors were during the Ottoman Empire which was more than 500 years under the Ottoman Empire. During that period, the Bulgarian children had no education and they paid for their education and were able to become one of the most educated in the world. And this is the same model that I use. I want to do everything with my strength and the people who are close to me, but this is possible only through the intelligence of the person and his ability to give the right value to money. We must be people independently of the goods we have and of the free and autonomous means from the mental point of view. We have seen, thank you Tonica and Elie. Guys, be patient, I can do it. We have seen the park and we will show it to you in the next video. We have made all the recordings because the park is huge and all the extraordinary energy that is breathed inside this park. You will also see the majesty of how everything has been taken care of in the smallest details until you really find yourself traveling through time. Then, all around there is also a part that is still under construction with houses that will be future accommodation for tourists. And in this particular moment we are inside a restaurant that has been created inside a village that is actually being reborn. It was a village that was practically dead. And from here, thanks to this model and above all the model of mutual aid I will show you later when you have to translate mutual aid, you have the possibility to create everything starting from the small buildings and even without wasting anything. They are even being able to recover the material bricks used. So, no waste, no waste, but revitalization of what is the presence on the place. They are giving life to a country that was dead. Go! You are giving life to a village that was practically dead. Right? Yes. The fact is that you are creating here something very unique, in every detail. And what I like is that with the help of all the people that are around you, you are helping to reborn a village that is literally without people. Yes. And this amazes them. They just can't explain how all this is possible. A person with what effort can do all this. It sounds almost utopian. And this is a very good feeling in the park itself when they were there. They really like, as I told you before, the feeling they had. Somehow their soul is at peace. Yes. I am Orthodox. I believe in God. I believe that God has given the greatest gift to man – freedom. And I believe that all people should be free. That is why I am looking when we are creating the park and the places to have one basic thing. To give people the opportunity to be free and to express their creativity. I am a believer. I am a Christian. I believe in God. And this is my idea. I like to leave people with this state of mind, of peace and meaning when they come to the park. I want everyone to be free to express themselves, to be able to create and to give life to their imagination. I think you are doing a great job. And I think the institutions should help you and support you in this. What I understand is that not only you are not coming but they are even attacking you. You are doing something unique. You are creating amazing things from nothing. Shouldn't the institutions support you in this? Yes, this is what surprised me. When I was planning the park I was planning the Bulgarian state. The Bulgarian state has the Ministry of Culture, Ministry of Tourism and Ministry of Education for which they pay 7.5 billion euros per year so that the ministries can do something to preserve the culture, to attract tourists and to educate the children better. I did this for free. I didn't take their money. I did their job. And I thought that they would advertise this thing because they need to show that they are doing something. And this is the opposite. At the beginning, when I created this project, I was convinced that I needed a country by my side. All the institutions, the Ministry of Education, the Ministry of Tourism, the Ministry of Finance and all the ministries that could help me. Instead, none of this was done. I did everything with my own means. With the means I had. Because this was not possible. No one could help me. Here, they spend 4.5 billion euros per year but no one came against me. In fact, they tried to beat me up. Did you ask yourself why? At the beginning, I didn't understand it but later I understood why these things happen. In Bulgaria, the mafia plays with the state. Initially, I couldn't answer this question. But later I understood why the mafia and the state in Bulgaria go hand in hand. The mafia wants to take everything. It takes all the key facilities. It buys all the hotels. It gives the Black Sea the right to manage the beach. It gives the opportunity for tour operators Whatever the business idea is, everyone has to rely on the mafia. The worst thing about our country is that the state gives a hand to the mafia. The incentive. So, everything you see in Bulgaria, especially on the Black Sea coast, it's all around the mafia. Hotels, hotels. It's all in their hands. So, it's really hard to deal with all this. Everyone depends on the mafia here. And because I did something, the big business in Bulgaria comes from privatization. After communism fell, everything was state-owned here. And the mafia takes the hotels, the business, all the buildings. It takes all the institutions, the right to build and do everything. And so, the mafia steals from the people everything that the rich people and the Bulgarian politicians have. After communism, everything was privatized. And it was privatized by the mafiosi. All these institutions, institutions, hotels. Everything that belonged to the Bulgarian people was taken from them. So, they actually stole everything we had. She's making a very important statement and also dangerous. She's not afraid to say it. You're saying something very important but at the same time very dangerous. Aren't you afraid to say these things? Well... Because I'm a person whom God gave me freedom, I don't believe that the mafia can take it away from me. And because I'm a person who believes that God gave her freedom, I don't believe that the mafia can take it away from me. And because of this reason, I'm ready to fight against the mafia, because they are trying to take away all the people who want to do good, not just me. And what they did in the beginning was to send me the criminals who are people from the underground. But later, when they didn't succeed because of them, they started to kill me through the state and state institutions and the media. Initially, they sent me the suspects, the mafiosi, to threaten me. Later, when they saw that it didn't work, they started to do it in a bigger way, through the institutions of our country. Now, in this particular moment, do you have any impediments from the institutions? At this moment, do you stop your activities as institutions? Yes. They have been doing this since 2019, when we opened the park. The state, the politicians and the mafia keep all the media in Bulgaria. And these media start a negative campaign since 2019 against us. They started to do this since 2019, with the opening of the park. Obviously, the mafia holds all the media, all the political power, but also the journalism. So, they do whatever they want and they make a kind of negative publicity. So, they use all the cards. We don't know anything. Yes, we don't know anything. We know something about this. And then, they send me the police, they send me the services, they hire agents to work here, to give different statements, to send signals, to do something wrong. Or they try to confirm something, to make a statement, to compromise us. But so far, they haven't been able to do this for more than 5 years. They try to put you in jail, not only by the police, but also by people who show themselves as volunteers to work here. Actually, they are spies and they not only give information about what is happening here, but they also give false information to cover up my image. And when they do this all the time, they say, for example, that we are a sect, that we are Orthodox. The most famous thing that they say about us is that we are actually a sect. This is the most popular statement. Scientology. Yes, Scientology. And we are Orthodox. But we also have Muslims, we have Buddhists. We also have Muslims, we have Buddhists. We accept people like you. We definitely don't have Scientology. But there is definitely no Scientology here in the sect. The idea is that we would not somehow expel them, but there is none. But even if there were, we would not send them, because here we accept everyone, but there are none. Then they say that we are bandits and criminals. Then they say that we are criminals. Then they say that somehow we can expose people, that we can bribe them. They also say that we can steal people, steal their money. They say that a stone is not a stone, it is a stereo port. They say that a stone is not a stone, but another material. You saw what in the park. And there are all kinds of lies that people are afraid of. They say that if we go there, nothing will happen to us. Lies of some kind that reflect on people, because they start to be afraid. They are afraid that something can happen to them. It is forbidden to work with us Tour operators are forbidden. For example, tour operators from abroad They say that we want to bring people to the historical park, but there is no such object. They have forbidden all tour operators to operate with us, so every time they are called here from abroad to be able to visit the place, they answer by saying that there is no historical park here. We fought to attract tourists from abroad and that's why we contacted hotels that have mineral springs, mineral waters. And when they saw that we started to develop this thing, the owners of the hotels that if we don't stop working with them, we will take the hotels. They have also threatened people from hotels abroad that if there are minerals, they will contact us. Our enemies have threatened the owners of the hotels saying that they would take them literally if they had the intention to cooperate with us. These people call us at 11.30 p.m. to ask if we can get rid of our contacts. These people called us at 11.30 p.m. asking to remove all their contacts from the official website. But the biggest problem came when the managers of an international company and gave them a bribe to build a park here. It doesn't matter that they didn't do it touristically, they wanted to destroy it by putting big wind turbines. The biggest problem came when they wanted to plant wind turbines here. Even without our consent, this was the biggest problem for us. According to the law, at the municipal level, it is forbidden to have such wind turbines because the municipality has the right to refuse. According to the law, the territory can refuse and everyone has refused. For example, the prices of the houses have risen more than 10 times. When we are here, the prices of the houses have risen more than 10 times. And all the people got rich. Everyone who has a house can live 10 times more expensive than before. Anyone who has a house here can sell it at a higher price than 10 times. There is zero unemployment. There were a lot of services here. Everyone was in the city. There were everything. There were gyms, restaurants, massages, better education for children, Here people have everything. It's like being in the city. They have the weight room, they have schools, they have education, they have restaurants, they have gyms. There is nothing missing here. There is a post office, schools, we have also seen a bus station. In Italy, we dream of a bus station like this. There are also public services, TV, everything is open. We even wanted to make bus lines from here to Varna and back, but the state did not allow us. We also wanted to open bus lines that would take buses from here to Varna. But of course, the village put the poles between the wheels. For our cost, and they did not allow us. And when the wind turbines came, because we refused at the municipal level, all the people who live in the whole community, they are 10 villages, they refused. Then they said that they would send inside and someone would die if we did not agree. The situation is so serious that when we refused the proposal to plant the wind turbines here, all the 10 villages that are here in the province refused the proposal. But we received a threat where they told us that there would be death for those who create these problems. And because we are organized here, people are not afraid of them. When there is no fear, the mafia stops having power, because there is no one to threaten them. They have to fight and something can happen to them. And this thing makes the mafia turn to the state again and say, help us, we can not do it here. What is our strength is perhaps our courage. Because when a person is afraid, it is obviously much easier to hurt. We are not afraid, we are not doing anything wrong. We are confident and when the mafia sees that we are not afraid, they go back, because they know that something could happen to them too. And at that point, when they fail in our confrontations, they ask the state for help again to put us in trouble in some other way. So the real problem was born with wind turbines? The real problem, when was it born? With these wind turbines? No, it is from the beginning. The real problem has always existed, but it has become more serious with the wind turbines. Because then the mafia in the state is used to doing whatever it wants and the people do not support it, they do not have an opinion. And they have such structures in every regional city, every big city in Bulgaria. There are also such mafia structures that deal with drug trafficking, with smuggling, with prostitution, with crime, with murder and everything. And they are the people who actually secure the votes for the politicians. In every big city in Bulgaria there are institutions and mafiosi, they are real structures in which inside there is drug trafficking, prostitution, drug trafficking and all the most illegal things in this world. Obviously they manage everything, they make a lot of money, at this point they turn to the state to be able to do whatever they want. And when they sent them, and then we drove them out of here, and then they got scared because they have not met such an opponent so far? Obviously they were surprised and in a negative way they were almost scared when we told them that they could not do what they wanted here because they have never had the opportunity to confront people who refused. And then the whole country turned against us. And then the whole country turned against us. And we decided that we had to withdraw the party in the parliament. And we decided that the only solution to save us from this problem was to establish a political party within our party. And we managed to do it. And from there it became a real war of life and death. And since then it has become a real war. And now what do you think you should do? Now there will be elections in Bulgaria. We started to defeat them when we started to reveal the mafia structures in every part of the country. We started to stand against them when we started to show the people all these mafia institutions that were in our country. We started to show in every area in Bulgaria the people who are still suffering because many people lost their children because of drugs, they were killed, they were expelled abroad. And these people don't have anything to live for anymore. They are ready to fight, even if the revolution has to rise, but these people can't torture the country and the people anymore. We started to have the support of people who lost their children because of drug trafficking, children who were killed because of drugs, because of the mafia. They are people who have nothing to lose because they lost their children. So they are ready to defend themselves with the sword and to help us in any way. And so we prevented the creation of a government that would torture the people in the same way. And so we prevented the creation of a new party that could trample the rights of the people again. And we challenged new elections. Now there will be new elections in Bulgaria. And thanks to this, there will be new elections in Bulgaria. They stopped all the banks from working with us. Because we build nice houses and sell them, there are a lot of people, because there is zero crime here. We have a very good education, a very good business environment in which people can focus on development, to truly develop their human and divine qualities, and not to worry about how to survive in the city. And a lot of people decided to move and live here. A lot of people decided to come and live here because the crime rate is zero here. We are all safe here. There is education, there is a mentality of equality, of helping each other. And this, of course, is not convenient for the political and mafioso institutions. Let's go to the closing. I have the last two questions. I will ask you a political question and then I will ask you a more technical one. This question is about how the European Union thinks about maintaining its own individuality, its own freedom, since the European Union is giving the rights to all the member states and Bulgaria is also a part of this. I have two questions for you. One is from a political point of view. How do you deal with this European Union that really dictates the rules and you somehow struggle to get out of them, for the future? How will this continue? What I see is that the European Union supports them and they are in power thanks to the European Union because the European Union wants to turn Bulgaria into a landfill. They constantly want to build factories to burn their waste. There are a lot of illegal landfills here. Step by step they want to expel people, to build dams, solar panels, to store all the waste that they have here, even though our territory is beautiful because we have very good soils, very good climate, a lot of water, a lot of mountains, beautiful nature, but somehow the European Union determines this territory as a landfill. I notice that the European Union is trying to destroy our country. Our country is a beautiful country, rich in mineral resources, rich in nature, rich in landscapes, rich in mountains. The problem is that these mafioso institutions seem to be supported by the European Union that is trying to destroy us. It is constantly creating and spreading these waste-disposal factories and it wants to turn our country into a landfill in the open sky. This is what worries me the most. I want to make sure that the European Union does not have values such as freedom and gives people the opportunity to develop according to their wishes which are in favor of the world and not against it. I want to make sure whether they really do not want to allow this or there are people who are not good. If there are people who are not good and there are people who want the freedom of the European Union, together I propose to unite with them to win the right What I fear is that the European Union is trying to put us between the wheels, but I want to be sure, I want to understand whether the European Union really has this purpose or there are people who want to do good for our country, people who are willing to help us. We are absolutely available, we are ready, we are here and we fight the same struggle, so we are on the same side also because the model that has created the economy is a model that also in Italy interests a lot, also for greater autonomy, so the possibility of having greater autonomy is linked to the institutions. We are fully willing to help you because what is happening here in Bulgaria, Malta or Italy first of all, so we are very well aware of what is happening here and we can help you and we want to do it. We will be very grateful to meet support and to unite efforts because if the mafia takes power like it did here, it will become mandatory and gradually ordinary people will lose their freedom. I am very happy about this, I thank you and it would be nice if we could all help each other to cancel these mafia institutions that unfortunately should expand in every country more and more. We thank you at this point, we hope to see you soon I have seen that you have a lot of projects and we would like to follow your projects. We want to thank you and we want to promise to meet again in the future because you have a lot of projects that we would like to follow. Yes, we also thank you a lot, in 2016 in Italy, in Cheredi, Bulgaria, we put a monument to Hanna Ocek, he is the brother of the ruler who founded Bulgaria. So we have family ties with Italy, we maintain very good relations with them, we make festivals, there is even a tree in the park that was planted by the people of Cheredi, Bulgaria. So we are happy to continue the relations and to develop them I am also very happy and I thank you a lot. We also have a kind of family with the Italian people because in Cheredi, Bulgaria, we built this beautiful statue that represents one of our Bulgarian founders and we feel really close to you, to your culture and we thank you a lot and we want to tell you that there is also a tree planted behind our gardens by the founders of Cheredi, Bulgaria, the ones who helped us. Thank you, Ivan, and I hope that at this point we will be able to hear each other without traveling, but also from a distance, to make an interview from a distance and give us updates from time to time on what is happening, how it proceeds, also from a political point of view. Once again, thank you very much and I will be very happy if we can hear each other in the future to make the interview, even online, where you tell us what is happening with you, how the relationship is developing, and so on. With great pleasure, I will do it. So, let's thank Evelyn, let's see what I say, Mihailov, I am learning the alphabet, but know it, now I am slowly getting there. Thank you, thank you very much. Thank you, Evelyn, thank you very much. Thank you, Antonia.