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I've got to start with this. So he's working for free with Doge. He's kind of put a lot of his life on hold. And you sued Twitter a number of years ago. You just made him pay you $10 million? That's right. I sued from long before he had it. Yeah. And I mean, they really hit a number on me, you know, and I sued and they had to pay. They paid $10 million settlement. You're OK with that? I mean, I left it up to the lawyers and, you know, the team running Twitter. So I said, you guys do what you think is the right. It makes sense. I think it's fine. I think it's a very low. I was looking to get much more money than that. So you gave him a discount when the lawsuit. He got a discount. Oh, he got a big discount. I don't think he even knows about it. He's become one of your, if you really didn't believe the media, he's become one of your best friends. He's working for free for you. Well, I love the president. I just want to be clear about that. I don't care about that. I know. I love the president. I think I think President Trump is a good man. And he's, you know, so he said that, you know, something really is, you know, because, I mean, the president's been so unfairly attacked in the media. It's really outrageous. And I spent at this point spent a lot of time with the president. And not once have I seen him do something that was mean or cruel or or wrong. Not once. You know, I've known him for 30 years and I've never seen anybody take as much as he's taken. Yeah. And we've discussed this. And I'm like, how do you deal with it? Did I have a choice? Well, you would say that to me. I'm like, what am I going to do? Worry about it? And, you know, and then culminating in two assassination attempts, which resulted in your endorsement. Well, I was going to do it anyway, but that was that was a precipitating event. Yeah. It's been a little bit. Yeah. The day of the assassination. I didn't know that. Yeah. I just spent it up. But I was going to do it anyway. Mr. President, with your indulgence, I'm convinced that people only know a little bit about Ilan. I don't think they know everything about Ilan, because as I studied for and prepared for this interview. I learned a lot about you that I didn't know. I think people will think about Tesla. Democrats are demonizing you and trying to make the country hate you. I just want people to understand you a little bit better. And the person that you've gotten to know and have now put a lot of trust in and, you know, just let's go over a little bit of your bio, starting with PayPal and how you became involved in Tesla and SpaceX and Neuralink and all these. Well, I mean, you know, I I think the way you think of me is like. I'm a technologist and I try to make technologies that improve the world and make life better. Yeah. And that's why I like my T-shirt says tech support, because I'm here to provide the president with with technology support. And now that may seem like, well, is that a silly thing? But actually, it's a very important thing, because the president will make these executive orders which are very sensible and good for the country. But then they don't get implemented, you know. So if you take, for example, all the funding for the migrant hotels, the president issued executive order. Hey, we need to stop taking taxpayer money and and paying for luxury hotels for illegal immigrants. It makes no sense. Like, obviously, people do not want their tax dollars going to to fund high end hotels for for illegals. And yet they were still doing that even as late as last week. And so, you know, we went in there and we're like, this is a violation of the presidential executive order. It needs to stop. So so what we're doing here is is one of the biggest functions of the Doge team is just making sure that the presidential executive orders are actually carried out. And this is I just want to point out, this is a very important thing, because the president is the elected representative of the people. So he's representing the will of the people. And if the bureaucracy is fighting the will of the people and preventing the president the president from implementing what the people want, then what we live in is a bureaucracy and not a democracy. You're both aware you have to be keenly aware that the media and and the punditry class not that you know, I think you've proven they have no power anymore because they threw everything they had at you and they didn't win. And that was, you know, The New York Times, Washington Post, three networks, every late night comedy show, two cable channels. They just drew they drew everything, warfare, weaponization. And now I see they want you to to start. They want a divorce. They want you to to start hating each other. And they try. Oh, President Elon Musk, for example. You do know that they're doing that to you. Oh, I see it all the time. They tried it. Then they stopped. That wasn't what they have. Many different things of hatred. Actually, Elon called me, he said, you know, they're trying to drive us apart. I said, absolutely. You know, they said, we have breaking news. Donald Trump has ceded control of the presidency to Elon Musk. President Musk will be attending a cabinet meeting at eight o'clock. And I say, it's just so obvious. They're so bad at it. I used to think they were good at it. They're actually bad at it, because if they were good at it, I'd never be president, because I think nobody in history has ever gotten more bad publicity than me. I could do the greatest things. I get 98 percent bad publicity. I could do outside of you and a few of your very good friends. It's like the craziest thing. But you know what I have learned, Elon? The people are smart. They get it. Yeah, they do. They get it. They really see what's happening. Yes. And at the end of this interview, what I would like is I want people to know the relationship and know more about you. What is the relationship, Mr. President? Well, I respect him. I've always respected him. I never knew that he was right on certain things. And I'm usually pretty good at this stuff. He did Starlink. He did things that were so advanced and nobody knew what the hell they were. I can tell you in North Carolina, they had no communication. They were wiped out. Those people were, you know, they had rivers in between land that never saw water. All of a sudden, there was a river and a vicious like rapids. People were dying all over. They had no communication. They said, you know, Elon Musk? They didn't really know. I know him. I said, yeah. He said, could you get Starlink? It's like the first time I ever heard of it. I said, what's Starlink? A communication system. That's unbelievable. I have it. Yeah. And he said, I called him and I said, listen, they really need it. And he got like thousands of units of this communication. And it saved a lot of lives. He got it immediately. And you can't get it. I mean, you have to wait a long time to get it. But he got it to him immediately. And I said, that's pretty amazing. And I didn't even know he had it. We watched the rocket ship. So we watch Tesla. I think, you know, something that had an effect on me was when I saw the rocket ship come back and get grabbed like you grab a beautiful little baby. You grab your baby. It just hugged the rocket. I've never seen it. Everyone needs a hug, including rockets. Yeah. No, but. And he said, you know, you can't really have a rocket program if you're going to dump a billion dollars into the ocean every time you fly. You have to save it. Right. And he saved it. First time that I've ever seen that done. And nobody else can do it. If you look at the U.S., Russia or China, they can't do it and they won't be able to do it for a long time. He has the technology. So you learn. I wanted somebody really smart to work with me in terms of the country, a very important aspect, because, I mean, he isn't talking about he's actually a very good businessman. And when he talks about the executive orders, and this is probably true for all presidents, you write an executive order and you think it's done. You send it out. It doesn't get done. It doesn't get implemented. They don't implement it. Maybe they're from the last administration and they are in some cases. You try and get them out as fast as you can. But I could. As soon as he said that, I said, you know, that's interesting. You write a beautiful executive and you sign it and you assume it's going to be done, but it's not. What he does is he takes it. And with his hundred geniuses, he's got some very brilliant young people working for him that dress much worse than him. They dress in just T-shirts. You wouldn't know they have 180. So he's he's your tech support. I don't know. He is. But he's much more than that. I am tech support, though. But he gets it done. He's a leader. Yeah, he really is. He gets it done. You get a lot of tech people and you have people that go to a tech, but they he gets it done. You know, I said in real estate, you had guys that would draw beautiful renderings of a building and they'd draw the rendering. It would be great. And you say, great, what are you starting? But they were never able to get it built. They couldn't get the finances. They couldn't get the approvals. It would never get done. And then you have other guys are able to get it done. You know, they could just get it done. I was in real estate. Same thing in this. He gets it done. So when he said that, he said, you know, when you sign these executive orders, a lot of them don't get done and be the most important ones. And he would take that executive order that I'd sign and he would have those people go to whatever agency it was. When are you doing it? Get it done. And some guy that maybe didn't want to do it all of a sudden, he's signing. He just doesn't want to be bothered. Do a lot of those executive orders have to be codified into law? You need the Republican Congress and a lot of them will be. They will. Look, in the meantime, we have four years. The beauty is we have four years. That's why I like doing it right at the beginning, because an executive order is great. I mean, the one problem is both good and bad, because when they did all these executive orders, I've canceled most of them. They were terrible. I mean, we're going to go radical left communists. OK, it was crazy there. Executive orders were so bad. If they ever got them codified, you'd never be able to break them. So the damage that Biden has done to this country, and it's not even Biden, it's the people that circled him in the Oval Office, OK, but the damage they did to this country in terms of, let's say, open borders, you know, there's so many things, but open borders where millions of people poured into our country and hundreds of thousands of those people are criminals. They're murderers. They're drug dealers. They're gang members. They're people from prisons from all over the world. And we have a great guy, Tom Holman, and he is doing so incredibly. You saw the numbers. They're down 96 percent, 95 percent. He is a phenomenal guy. And Kristi Noem is doing an unbelievable job. And he wanted her. He said, she's so tough. And I said, I don't think of her as that way. You know, she's very nice. He said, no, she's so tough. And she is. I see with the horses. He's riding the horse. Let's go. She's great. But the team we have is is really unbelievable. But those executive orders, I sign them and now they get passed on to him and his group and other people. And they're all getting done. We're getting them done. Let me let me go back a little bit to your background, because it's not sure it's beyond impressive. You were the chief engineer, for example. You were an early believer in Tesla. You became the CEO and and then the chief engineer, which was phenomenal. SpaceX, same thing, which is unbelievable. I mean, you were the first company, private company, to send astronauts successfully into into space. First private company to send astronauts into orbit. Yeah, that's that's pretty deep. He's going to go into orbit. OK, yeah, no, he's going to go to Mars. He's Starlink at some point. Yeah. I mean, they said that was asking, like, do you want to die on Mars? And I say, well, yes, but not on impact. Starlink is in 100 countries. This is going to be hard. I feel like I'm interviewing two brothers here. You go ahead. Starshield, which could be used for national defense. Yeah, it is already being used for national defense. Then you have a what is called Optimus, a part of Tesla robot, a robotic arm. Then you have an A.I. arm. And then you have something that really fascinated me. And it's called Neuralink. Yes. You might help the blind to see people with spinal cord injuries that they that they can recover where in the past. How close is that? Yeah. Becoming a success. Neuralink. We've had we've implanted Neuralink in three patients so far who are quadriplegics and allows them to directly control their phone and computer just using their mind, just by thinking it's like so we call this product telepathy. So you control your computer and phone just by thinking as possible to actually control the computer and phone faster than someone who has working hands. Then the next step would be to add a second Neuralink implant past the point where these the neurons damaged so that somebody can walk again. And so they can have full body functionality restored. And so you like Bobby, right? I like Bobby, actually. Yeah. I think I supported Bobby Kennedy. I think he you know, he's unfairly maligned as someone who is anti-science. But I think he he isn't. He just wants to question the science, which is the essence of the science. The scientific method fundamentally is about always questioning the science. Well, they didn't tell us the truth about covid. That's for sure. Yes. And we learned a lot with the Twitter files. And that just then raises a question. You're the richest man in the world. You may not like that part. You're pretty competitive. I know you a long time. But that's why. But he's on your team. Well, that's true. He can't top that. He's good. You know, I wanted to find somebody smarter than him. I searched all over. I just couldn't do it. I couldn't. You really tried hard. I couldn't find anyone smarter. Right. So we had it. We had it for the country. But this is the thing. Settled. And we settled on this. Well, thanks for having me. So I'm just trying to be useful here. This is the interesting. This is where we are as a society. And I hate to do this to you, but I'm going to do it anyway. You're doing all of these things. Nobody at Doge gets paid a penny, correct? Well, actually, some people are federal employees. Some are? OK. Yeah. They're helping. But it's fair to say that the software engineers at Doge could be earning millions of dollars a year instead of earning a small fraction of that as federal employees. OK. So. And they're very committed people. So you're committed to helping the blind see people with spinal cord injuries recover. Yes. You're committed to getting to Mars. You're committed to rescue. You're going to help rescue next month two astronauts that I think were abandoned. They dispute that in an interview. When are you going to do that? At the president's request or instruction, we are accelerating the return of the astronauts, which was postponed kind of to a ridiculous degree. They got left in space. They've been there. They were supposed to be there eight days. They're there almost 300. Biden. They were put. Yes. They were left up there for political reasons, which is not good. OK. It's not good. Now, if I had the weight of the pressure of doing that successfully on my shoulders, I think I'd be, you know. But you when we spoke before we did this interview, you were very confident. You think this will be a successful mission? Well, we don't want to be complacent, but we have brought astronauts back from the space station many times before and always with success. So as long as we're not complacent, when are they when are you going to launch? I think it's about about four weeks to bring them back up for weeks. Yeah. And we're being extremely cautious. You now have to go ahead. Yes. Well, thanks to you. They didn't have to go ahead with Biden. He was going to leave him in space. I think he was going to leave him in space. It's like we were growing up lost in space. He didn't want the publicity. Can you believe it? Unbelievable. And so, yeah, I want to echo something that the president said and then ask an overarching question. So people get hit with Hurricane Helene. They have no communication with the outside world. You come to the rescue. You donated that. Yeah. He donated to the people. He saved a lot of lives in North Carolina. He saved a lot of lives. And California after the wildfires. But I mean, in North Carolina, where they were really in trouble, they had no communication. People were dying. They were dying of starvation. He saved a lot of lives in North Carolina. OK. Now you're going to rescue astronauts. And now, again, you do all of this. I would think liberals would love the fact that you have the biggest electric vehicle company in the world. Yeah. I mean, I used to be adored by the left. Not anymore. Less so these days. He killed that. Huh? I mean, less so. I really did. I mean, this whole sort of like, you know, they call it like Trump derangement syndrome. And you don't realize how real this is until like it's you can't reason with people. So like I was at a friend's birthday party in L.A., just a birthday dinner. And it was like a nice quiet dinner and everything was everyone was behaving normally. And I have to mention this before the election, like a month or two before, I have to mention the president's name. And it was like they got shot with a dart in the jugular that contained like methamphetamine and rabies. OK. I'm like, what is wrong with guys like you can't have like a normal conversation. And it's like it's it's like they become completely irrational. He has no idea. If you're friends with him. Yeah. You pay a price. You know, it's like I walk in a restaurant in New York and it's like half the room that's daggers and they want to know that I dagger level is insane. I mean, there was like I had like some some invitation because so I got invited to like so basically a big sort of damn damn event like that was but it received the invitation like the beginning of last year. And then and I still attended even after I had endorsed President Trump. And I didn't realize how profoundly that would affect, you know, how I was received. I mean, I walk into the room and I'm getting just the dirty looks from from everyone. Like if looks could kill, I would have been dead several times over. But that was not before. He's like, those are the ashes on the floor. Before Trump, that never happened, right? No. And we are back at the White House. And here's part two of my exclusive interview with President Trump and Elon Musk. Take a look. This is the million dollar or billion dollar among billionaires question. So you have all of this going on. And you stop in a way you're still doing it. And you partner with him. And this is what you get for it from the Democrats. You get nobody voted for Elon. Well, nobody voted for any of your cabinet nominees. OK, people are dying because of Doge cuts. I'll give you a chance to respond. What Doge is doing is illegal. Elon Musk is more street vernacular for a male body part. That's a constitutional crisis. Why are they reacting like this? Well, first of all, do you give a fly and rip over number one? And well, I guess we must be over the target or doing something right. You know, if like they wouldn't be complaining so much if they weren't doing something useful, I think what we're really trying to do here is restore the will of the people through the president. And and what we're finding is that there's an unelected bureaucracy. Speaking of unelected, there's a there's a vast federal bureaucracy that is implacably opposed to the president and the cabinet. And you look at, say, DC voting, it's ninety two percent Kamala. OK, so we're in ninety two percent Kamala. That's a lot. They don't like me here either. I think about that number a lot. I'm like ninety two percent. That's basically almost everyone. And so but if but how can you if if the will of the president is not implemented and the president is representative of the people, that means the will of the people is not being implemented. And that means we don't live in a democracy. We live in a bureaucracy. And so I think what we're seeing here is the sort of the thrashing of the bureaucracy as we try to restore democracy and the will of the people. You this is making sense. I mean, no, of course it does. I mean, to me, if you look at our framers and our founders and you really become a student of history, Mr. President, and we've had conversations both on air and off air. And if we talk about constitutional order or transformational change, nobody can argue that what's happening here is going at the speed of light. But however, what were the principles of our framers and our founders? They wanted limited government, greater freedom for the people. And we'll get to the specific cutting away for an abuse that that is your goal, is it not? Yeah. And my goal was to get great people. And when you look at what this man has done, it was something I knew him a little bit through the White House. Originally, I'd see him around a little bit. I didn't know him before that. And I respected what he did. And he fought hard. You know, he was he was maybe questioned for a while. He was having some difficulties. It was not easy doing what he did. I mean, how many people have started a car company and made it really successful and made a better car where it's beating these big companies that that's all they do is cars. I mean, it's really amazing the things he's done, but I didn't know it as much then as now. I mean, the fruits have sort of taken hold, but I wanted great people and he's a great person. He's an amazing person. He's also a caring person. You know, he uses the word care. So they signed a contract in a government agency and it has three months and the guy leaves that signed the contract and nobody else is there and they pay the contract for 10 years. Yeah. So the guy is getting checks for years and years and years. And he's telling his family, obviously, maybe it was crooked, maybe paid to get the contract or maybe paid that they didn't terminate it. But, you know, we have contracts that go forever and they've been going for years and they're supposed to end in three months or five months or two years or something and they go forever. So the guy is either crooked, you know, where he knew this was going to happen, or he's crooked because he's getting payments that he knows he shouldn't be getting. But they're finding things like that. They're finding things far worse than that. And they're finding billions and will be hundreds of billions of dollars worth of fraud. I say waste and abuse, but fraud, waste and abuse. And he's doing an amazing job. And he attracts a young, very smart type of person. I call them high IQ individuals and they are they're very IQ and high IQ. And when they go in to see the people and talk to these people, you know, the people think they're going to pull it over. They don't. These guys are smart and they love the country. You know, there's a certain something. But he uses the word care. So people have to care. Like when I bought Air Force One, I negotiated the price. It was five point seven billion. And I got it. I got him down one point seven billion. Now, they're not building the plane fast enough. I mean, they're actually in default Boeing that's supposed to have been building this thing. I don't know what's going on. Yeah, we don't build the way we used to build. You know, we used to build like a ship a day. And now to build a ship is like a big deal. And we're going to get this country back on track. We can do it. But so many things. It takes so long to get things built and get things done. And a lot of it could be something we've been discussing. The regulators go in and they make it impossible to build. They make it very difficult to build anything, whether it's a ship, a plane or a building or anything. And some of them do it because they want to show how important they are. Some of them do it maybe because they think they're right. They use the environment to stop progress and to stop things. It's always the environment. It's an environmental problem. It's not an environmental problem at all. But they do a lot of things. And by the way, speaking of that, Lee Zeldin is going to be fantastic in the position. And so on. But he could take 10 years to approve or disapprove something or he could do it in a month, you know, just as good. And I think you're going to see some fantastic, a fantastic job done by him. He's a tremendous guy. Newt, you echoed something when I just met you. And it was very similar to what Newt has been saying, that where he brought this country to the dance, this is the opportunity to be transformational and to have, I would argue, the most consequential presidency if we if we really dig down and do something that had never been done before. And that is get rid of this bureaucracy. And I'm going to get to specifics. You say the same thing. It's not done yet. And what do you mean by that? I mean, winning the election is really the opportunity to fix the system. It is not fixing the system itself. So it's an opportunity to fix the system and to restore the power of democracy. And, you know, people like it's it's funny how often when these attacks occur, the thing that they're accusing the administration of is what they are guilty of. They're saying that things are being done on unconstitutional. But what they are doing is unconstitutional. They are guilty of the crime of which they accuse us. That's always the first thing they do. It's in violation of the Constitution. They don't even know what they're talking. Well, it's just a con job. It's a big con job. And they're so bad for the country, so dangerous and so bad. And the media is so bad. When I watch MSNBC, which I don't watch much, but you have to watch the enemy on occasion, the level of arrogance and and cheating and they're just horrible people. These are horrible people. They tell conspiracy theories and they start up with the Constitution. They couldn't care less about the Constitution. CNN, likewise, I mean, I watch them asking questions with, you know, the hatred with them. I said, why are you asking the question with such anger? You're asking me a normal question. But you see the bias. The bias is so incredible. Those two are bad. PBS is bad. AP is bad. CBS is terrible. I mean, CBS now they changed an answer in Kamala. They asked her some questions. She answered them like, you know, a low IQ person, the opposite of the absolute opposite. But she gave a horrible answer. They took the entire answer out and they put another answer that she gave 20 minutes later into the end as a reward. I've never even heard of that. I thought I heard of it all. I'm going to just for the sake of saving time. Because I could spend and I've done this on radio and TV, I can spend an hour finding the outrageous amounts of money being spent abroad like USAID. And I just want to mention a couple, but I'm going to scroll it. Well, I guess at a high level, I think it's what the president mentioned earlier, which is that in order to save taxpayer money, it comes down to two things, competence and caring. And and when when the president was shown the outrageous bill for the new Air Force One and and then negotiated it down, if if the president had not applied competence and caring, the price would have been 50 percent higher, literally 50 percent higher. The president cared. The president was competent. The price was not 50 percent higher as a result. And so when you add more competence and caring, you get a better deal for the American people. But we could take we were talking about this yesterday. I could take it. Give me thousands of bills and I could pick any one. Yes, exactly. I could take all thousand. And let's say it's a bill for five thousand dollars, just five thousand. And it's done by some bureaucrat. And if he would say, I'll give you three, I don't want to pay you five. It's too high. I'll give you three. But they don't do that. If a guy sends in a bill for five thousand, they pay five thousand. They expect to be cut. Everybody expects to be cut. When you send in a bill, you expect to be cut. They send in the bill higher for the most part. This is true with lawyers, legal fees. When they send in legal fees, I can cut. I wish I had the time. I would save so. But I could cut these bills in half much better than half. But you offer people a much lower number because, you know, they actually put fat. I'm not even saying it's like a way of business. They put more on because they expect to be negotiated. When you send in a bill to the government, there's nobody to negotiate. Yes. You send in a bill for ten thousand dollars and they send you a check back for ten thousand dollars. If you would call them and said, we'll give you five. No, no, no. I need more than five. We'll give you a five. I'm not going to pay any more than five. I will make it six. No, I'm not going to make it six. And you'll settle for fifty five hundred dollars. You've just cut the bill almost in half. And it took like two minutes. But none of that. Someone pulled out the art of that's caring. No, it's not even the art of the deal. It's caring. It's caring. It's a certain competence, but I think it's more caring. I know. Actually, if you add either ingredient, either competence or caring, you'll get a better outcome. But it's a sense reason that if you don't have competency, you don't have caring, you're going to get a terrible deal. And the problem is that the American taxpayers have been getting a terrible deal because look at the last administration. Can you can anyone can any reasonable person say that last administration was either competent or caring? But they lied to us and said that Joe didn't have a cognitive. They fully lied. They said the borders were closed. 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