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This is the 30 minute TV version of Jan Jekielek’s interview with Brianne Dressen. The longer-form version was released on Epoch TV on March 1st, 2025.
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“When I got my COVID vaccine, my reaction started within an hour, and it started with tingling down the same arm as my injection. It moved to my other arm, then it moved to my legs, and then it moved to my head, into my brain, and I had this horrific electrical, pulsating sensation through my body 24/7.”
Brianne Dressen was left severely injured after participating in the AstraZeneca COVID-19 vaccine trials. She’s the co-founder of the nonprofit React19, which helps people impacted by COVID-19 vaccine injuries. React19 now advocates on behalf of over 36,000 people.
“We can’t be found in any kind of database that the public or anyone beyond the government can access,” she says. “All of the programs that we’ve developed, they work together in concert to build an avenue for healing for the people that literally have no avenue.”
She’s the subject of the new book “Worth a Shot?: Secrets of the Clinical Trial Participant Who Inspired a Global Movement.”
CHAPTER TITLES
0:00:01 - Brianne Dressen's COVID Vaccine Injury and Reactions
0:00:22 - Motivation to Participate in the Trial
0:00:41 - Challenges Post-Injury
0:01:03 - Dietary Changes and Their Impact
0:01:34 - Symptoms and Medical Challenges
0:04:07 - Formation of React 19
0:05:50 - Diagnosis and Lack of Accountability
0:07:41 - Final Thoughts and Resources
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when I got my covid vaccine my reaction
started within an hour and it started
with tingling down the same arm as my
injection it moved to my other arm then
it moved to my legs and then it moved to
my head into my brain and I had this
horrific
electrical pulsating sensation through
my body 24/7 Brienne dressen was left
severely injured after participating in
the astroica co9 vaccine trials she he's
the co-founder of the nonprofit react 19
which helps people impacted by the
covid-19 vaccines react 19 now Advocates
on behalf of over 36,000 people we can't
be found in any kind of database that
the public or anyone beyond the
government can access she's the subject
of the new book worth a shot secrets of
the clinical trial participant who
inspired a global movement this is
American thought leaders and I'm Yan
Kell
Brian dressen such a pleasure to have
you back on American thought leaders I'm
happy to be here thanks for having me
you were injured in a covid vaccine
trial some four years ago um um you were
diagnosed with uh postvaccine neuropathy
at the National Institutes of Health NIH
and you were actually treated there and
it and it helped you and I recall you
described this to me as getting the
golden ticket
where did things stand
now it's it's a good question um I was
at the NIH back in 2021 so almost four
years
ago and a lot has happened in that
amount of time but also nothing has
happened at the same time you know my
body is still struggling every day with
with this autoimmune condition that
continues to eat away at my nerves and
at the same time I've been able to find
a whole lot of things that have helped
my condition as well reading your book
one thing that jumped out at me is Diet
your husband who's been incredibly
helpful to you yeah describe describes a
situation where he started just trying
diet as a as a possible option and that
was actually one of the first things
that made a significant difference it
was a happy accident because at that
point I was really not in a good
situation
um my cognitive abilities were at the
lowest they had ever been I was almost
entirely bedbound at this point and we
were five six months into this we had
tried all kinds of medications the
doctors had given us you know we took a
picture of it one day and it was
literally an entire desk full from edge
to edge of just prescription medications
that I had taken and failed and you know
my husband's like I'm going to to do
some research on looking at
foods and um
neuroinflammation and systemic
inflammation and Curbing
autoimmunity and sure enough food was
one of those things so we cut out gluten
and dairy and corn next thing to go was
processed anything so anything that came
in a box or a bag that all that all went
so
everything was homemade and organic and
clean and it was incredible just in my
body with the amount of electrical
Sensations vibrations pain brain fog and
my personality was not my own at that
point because the inflammation was so
bad so I started changing the diet you
know my husband was feeding me
everything at this point and all of a
sudden my sense of self returned my
personality returned and the pain went
from a 9 out of 10 down to a s out of 10
down to a 6 out of 10 down to a 5 out of
10 maybe just for the benefit of our
audience we've discussed this before but
explain to me you know the sort of
collection of symptoms and these are not
exclusive to you of course but tell me
about that yeah so um when I got my
covid vaccine my reaction started within
an hour and it started with tingling
down the same arm as my injection and
moved my my other arm then it moved to
my legs and then it moved to my head
into my brain and I had this horrific
electrical pulsating sensation through
my body 24/7 it there was no break from
it um and I still have that to this day
it's just instead of unbearable we've
been able to dial it back with with
different therapies I also have extreme
leg weakness uh at the beginning I had
incontinence um disy Bells it passed out
multiple times first time ever in my
life that I passed out was was after
vaccination and brain fog extreme brain
fog confusion
disassociation
depression um yeah so it was just an
onslaught of constant discomfort
24/7 and there was there was no way you
know to get it to stop um the the
doctors didn't know what to do with it
so they just drugged me up with all
kinds of medications that are supposed
to help nerve pain but really all it did
is just make me a zombie so then I
didn't feel the nerve pain but I also
couldn't feel anything else right I I
didn't even know I was in a room sitting
up or if I was in bed laying down it was
not not a good way to exist so this is
certainly not what you expected tell me
a little bit about you know how it is
you came to be enrolled in this trial
and your thinking at the beginning of
the pandemic we were watching the
mainstream media and we were very
concerned about the alarming rates of of
deaths and you know hospitalizations and
hospitals being overwhelmed and it was
humbling enough for me to see that type
of Devastation that I I really wanted to
be part of the solution because our
country was hurting so bad at that point
right there was chaos everywhere so I
went from collecting
masks um for the local hospitals I had
several friends and and family members
that were working in the hospitals and
they were telling us that they were
being required to wear bloody soiled
masks on their face for days on end
because there was a mask shortage so we
started collecting masks and just
started with sharing with my community
hey if anyone has any n95 masks in their
garage let me know I'll come pick them
up went from that to hey there's
clinical trials going on and we were
watching the science and phase one
clinical trials looked extremely well
according to the media phase two you
know same thing and here we were in
phase three and what the media was
saying was it's time it's time for us to
just increase the numbers just enough so
we can get these clinical trials done
and then we'll be able to end the
pandemic by stopping the spread of covid
through these vaccines and so that
sounded like an
incredible um you know thing to
participate in I've never had any
previous problem with any vaccine before
in my life fully vaccinated you know it
was just no big deal and that all
changed with this one dose um of the
covid vaccine chart to
me the process of getting from that day
to you know finding these dietary
changes to getting diagnosed and treated
by an ah to today um after my injury the
drug company was gone right like we
called them multiple times we cried out
for help you know in emails phone
calls um literally tears running down my
face like begging for them to help which
is what they should have been doing with
uh what they agreed to on our contract
the contract that the drug company
signed with me states that they will
help me physically uh medically and
financially if there was a a research
related injury and they didn't either so
my husband reports my injury to the
National Institutes of Health and that
was January 11th
2021 so if you think about January 2021
the vast majority of America still had
yet to even be able to have the
opportunity to get their first
dose so it January 11th is when the NIH
started a study on neurological
complications to the covid vaccines they
already were receiving reports from
madna fizer and J&J people that were
injured with the same uh Cascade of
symptoms that I was experiencing and
that's when an official government body
really started investigating this and
they started flying people out fizer
madna J&J vaccine injured people um to
collect their samples figure out what
exactly is going on in their bodies but
then they also went a step further to
give diagnosis so I was diagnosed with
post vaccine
neuropathy and therapies and they
tracked how we were progressing with
these therapies that they that they had
given us over several weeks so that was
a span of from January to August um so
was a longer process with them but in
the meantime my doctors at home were not
cooperating with the NIH they were not
following the nih's
instructions they were you know
typical corporate Health Care System
where vaccine injuries are not a real
thing if they were a real thing they
would have you know been disclosed by
the drug companies because they're
required to by law to disclose the the
side effects of their products to the
public and to the medical
community so it was you know two very
different
sides to the same coin and at that point
um we experienced a lot of you know
panic at the beginning I remember
telling my husband I was like please
just tell me that this is going to go
away that this is going to get better
and he kept repeating back to me yes
it's there's no way a vaccine can do
this so yes this is going to get better
it's it's going to be okay um and that
desperation of just needing needing to
get my life back my health back some
kind of relief from the pain turned into
loss and substantial loss um and with
that went you know like a will to live
and
hope but we were able to work through
that and you know through a lot of work
um to pull out of it but on the other
side of that was very simple things like
food diet modification cleaning up the
water that we drink um spiritual
alignment and mental and emotional
um regulation Bri we're going to take a
quick break right now and we'll be right
back and we're back with Briand dressen
the subject of the new book worth a shot
you know you have a chapter in your book
The Darkness you considered suicide what
struck me in reading this chapter and
just sort of the general thoughtfulness
in this book by
Caroline um is that some of the lessons
on suicide that might actually be
applicable Beyond covid injury it's
obviously even the thought of checking
out right and and ending your life
there's so much shame that comes with
that right and because of the extreme
shame with it there's a people are
walking around all the time with this
going on that they're struggling with
and they don't say a word I'd been
suffering for several months I hadn't
been able to sleep at all because the
dis Comfort was so bad my sense of
identity was gone right so I was a
preschool teacher before this I was a
mom that was active in my community and
you know organizing all these different
events for my kids and the and the other
kids in our community and we had this
beautiful typical thriving happy life
American life and it was beautiful and
um and then it within a matter of months
had transformed into this profound level
of pain and suffering that was shrouded
in an illness that was so politically
charged that you know this topic was
never going to see the light of day
that's where and there was no end to the
suffering there was no break turning
around my emotions mentally and just
turning around to
face that reality of my new existence
was the hardest thing I ever
did tell me about your husband finding
these letters that you had written to
you know your family yeah so obviously I
have kids that I love more than life
itself when things were at their worst I
wrote them these letters and looking
back on it now now that I have my
thinking my brain has clicked back into
place and I'm no longer dealing with the
brain fog the letters were so inco
parent they I I can't believe that I
almost left that as like a final
Testament to my kids cuz they were so
poorly written and it was very obvious
that someone very very ill had written
them so I had written them and my
husband who was at this point in a
constant crisis phase he was trying to
keep the family together he was trying
to keep the kids literally alive right
because there was no longer their mom
taking care of them all the time he was
trying to keep his job and then he was
also trying to keep me
alive and um and so he found these and
um for him it was like this deep sense
of like hurt and betrayal that I had
even gone there and he was so angry it
was the first time in our marriage I I
had ever seen him so just like deeply
hurt and and angry I think it hurt him
you know more than anyone else
obviously but also through that
experience he he really redoubled his
efforts to make sure that he's like no I
have to save my wife I have to make sure
that this that somehow this is uh
resolved um I can't lose her I can't
lose my family um
yeah react 19 tell me about very briefly
how react 19 was formed and you know
where you're at today react 19 it really
was created because the government
wasn't doing their job and because they
weren't going to do it we we had to so a
bunch of us that are injured by the
covid vaccines got together and started
a 501c3 nonprofit and our goals are
pretty simple um we are dedicated to
providing physical emotional and
financial support to people that are
harmed by the co vaccines which right
now uh we represent over 36,000 people
in the United States alone and we have a
partnership with over 20 other countries
with other organizations that are
founded by the injured for the injured
just like we are you know the federal
compensation programs globally are
broken and people can't get disability
for an illness that still is not
acknowledged there's not even a
diagnosis code for it so yeah the
organization has has been a Lifeline for
people
there's a underground network of
providers that we have that are doctors
that will acknowledge vaccine injury and
help these people which believe it or
not there's a huge crisis in in
corporate Healthcare right now where
these doctors are not allow allowed to
write down vaccine injury in people's
charts they and how are you going to
treat something if you can't even look
at what could be causing it right so
it's it's
been it's been an incredible amount of
work but it's also been an Incredible
Gift to be able to do this but so for
example there's you know a child that
was injured and um healthy kid totally
you know typical 8-year-old kid um she
ended up in a wheelchair and diapers and
her parents desperate trying to help her
uh took her to a major hospital system
in the state and they locked her up and
they put her in the psych ward this kid
was in the psych W for a long time and
of course because they were treating her
as a psych patient her continue her
condition continued to get worse so her
family found um and worked with
Stephanie and Maddie de Gary and they
worked with our provider Network our
underground network of providers the mom
broke her kid out of the psych ward took
her to a doctor on our Network three
states away and through the care fund
which is the compensation program that
we independently run she was able to
fund uh getting her daughter the therapy
that she needed and she walked into
school that fall as if nothing had
happened to her I keep thinking about
how odd it is that on the one
hand you know you were actually
diagnosed by the National Institutes of
Health um on the other hand
and they give guidance even and some
doctors just won't accept that guidance
because you would think that that would
be the exactly the type of guidance they
would
accept right yeah and then the second
part is there's no code
for to this day right yeah so unpack
that for me it's it's a classic example
of what happens when you know um
corporate interests overtake common
sense and bureaucracy as well so the
diagnosis codes are very simple billing
codes that everybody that doctors use to
bill for insurance uh what's important
about these is is you know they can
track heart attacks they can rate you
know track cancers all kinds of things
that they can track through the system
based on these codes so it's it's very
convenient right right that there is no
covid vaccine injury diagnosis code
because then you can't actually query in
the system to find a rate of incidents
to figure out what other cor
comorbidities there may be with these
people that have a vaccine injury the
data collection databases that there are
those are all in full control of the
federal government and over the last
four years they have not been
transparent at all we can't be found in
any kind of database that the public or
anyone beyond the government can access
which I think is a very concerning
problem mhm I don't think people realize
that when you're harmed by a covid
vaccine you can't sue you can't sue
anyone there is no accountability coming
which is against everybody's essential
constitutional
rights um if you have a problem with a
peanut like if you have a peanut allergy
you can say that you have a peut allergy
without
you know people getting defensive
right if you say you have a vaccine
injury you're met with a very emotional
confrontational response and this is
literally just a physiological
reaction to a new pharmaceutical product
and for all Pharmaceuticals other than
vaccines you can sue you can hold the
drug companies to account and this
actually motivates drug companies to
make safer products because they don't
want to get sued that takes their profit
margins way down right but because the
the government has stepped in this has
been an amazing update um any final
thoughts as be finish um yeah if people
are struggling if they're struggling
just with their families not believing
them if people are struggling even you
know politically with their family
members just
you know abandoning them if people are
feeling
alone just remember that there is an
incredible community that cares about
you that you you really do matter and
the world needs you um you know there's
resources out there there's resources at
react 19.org and there's people that
that do value you and your voice so
that's probably what I would end with
well Brian dress and it's such a
pleasure having you on thanks for having
me thank you all for joining Brian Dron
and me on this episode of American
thought leaders I'm your host Yan Kell
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