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Join PragerU and Will Witt as we chat with Lindsey Caughel, professional baseball player, about socialism and his experience in Venezuela.
hello everyone this is will wit with
Prager you today we are joined with
Lindsay coggle who is a professional
baseball player with the Seattle
Mariners how are you doing today
I'm doing great how you guys doing I'm
doing great over here beautiful Los
Angeles here in Florida right Orlando
yeah it's probably a little bit hotter
over here in Florida but whether it's
good nonetheless there's no clouds in
the sky so it's a good same here and so
we have you on the air today talk about
your experience in Venezuela you spent
some time there just a little while ago
why were you there in Venezuela yeah I
spent about six weeks in Venezuela in
2016 from the beginning of October until
the middle of November and then an
additional six weeks this past year in
2017 from the beginning of November
until the middle of December so all
together about three months in Venezuela
throughout the course of a 13 14 month
span I was there playing baseball the
first year I was there I was in a city
called Marek I playing for the tiga days
day at agua and the this past year this
previous year I was there playing in
Caracas which is the capital plan for
the Leone's the Lions so it's there
playing baseball in the Venezuelan
professional baseball league that's
awesome I'm sure there are so many
people who have no idea about what's
actually going on in Venezuela right now
with socialism and how high prices have
gotten on everything could you tell us a
little bit about your experience in
Venezuela yeah there's so much to talk
about really I guess I'll start with the
first time that I got there I landed at
about 12:30 at night and I was contacted
by a member of the front office of the
team saying that I would have to sit in
the airport and wait for them to come
pick me up at about 5:00 in the morning
because there was road work being done
on the roads so I'd have to hang out in
the airport for a couple of hours so I
get off the plane and I'm in the airport
by myself and one of the first things
that I noticed was the overwhelming
amount of military personnel that was
present in the airport with IKS traffic
across their chests and shotguns
strapped across their chest and it
looked to be like a probably 50 to 50
ratio of military personnel to civilians
and it was something that you definitely
don't see in America I was definitely
taken aback by that when I first stepped
off a plane but anyways i sat in the
airport for five hours and I finally got
picked up at 5:30 in the morning I
walked outside I looked around in the
mountains anybody who's been to
Venezuela knows that it's one of the
most beautiful places landscape wise
that you can go to it's giant green
mountains hugged up right on the coast
next to the ocean it was really
beautiful
it was just object poverty everywhere I
looked in the hills and the shanties and
brand-new buildings and brand-new homes
being built without running water just
trash cans on top of the houses to
collect rainwater to take showers with
and we drive as the sun's coming up and
get to the field and I find out at the
field that the real reason that they had
to come pick me up at 5:30 in the
morning was because the roads were too
dangerous to drive on in the middle of
the night and people would throw rocks
at cars and try to try to get cars to
pull over to the side of the road so
they could rob them or steal their
vehicles and out of just utter
desperation to try to feed their
families or whatever means necessary but
it was definitely right as I stepped off
the plane it was an eye-opening
experience right from the beginning for
sure that's actually crazy seeing a lot
of people with guns at the airport is
completely different here than in Los
Angeles here no one has guns switch yeah
absolutely it was um yeah at our
baseball games there would be a lot of
people would still go to the baseball
games there'd be about 15 - you know
sometimes we'd play in front of 25,000
people the government funded the league
because they wanted the people at the
baseball games as opposed to in the
streets protesting so the baseball games
kind of kept the people busy to where
they didn't have time to think about
being out in the streets protests in the
government but almost at every single
baseball game a champ would erupt from
the crowd
Spanish that would be the government's
going down the government's going down
and it would get the Venezuelan players
on our on my team pretty pumped up but
it was uh there'd be ten armed guards
with riot gear on every foul line
so twenty guards on the field during the
entire game just making sure that
nothing happened and um you know it's
weird coming out of a baseball game
being done with a baseball game
you're used to kids asking you for your
autograph when you're done with the
baseball game in America but after every
single baseball game that I hadn't been
a sway like kids weren't never neden and
never asked for an autograph they were
always asking for food so they'd always
you know they'd always say it always get
my attention and and look at me and in
motion some food in their mouth and
comida comida and try to get me to give
them my leftover postgame spread so that
they could eat so they didn't have to go
hungry that night so that was also
pretty humbling experience to witness
that day in and day out after every
single game it's just such a horrible
situation there would you say that the
people of Venezuela recognized that it's
the government's fault and they dislike
and distrust their government 100%
absolutely Venezuela is full of
wonderful passionate people very
passionate people I would even describe
them as as very patriotic people who
have a lot of pride for their country
and know if anybody knows about the
history of Venezuela Venezuela used to
be a wellspring of of wealth where
people would go and vacation a lot of
Americans in the 80s and the in the
early 90s would go on vacation in
Venezuela because it is so beautiful and
a lot of people are very the only way
you could describe them is hurt I think
it's past the point of anger and moved
into into hurt they're just they feel
helpless and the people that have the
means to leave the country are leaving
the country I've talked to a lot of
people that are getting their situations
in order so they can go to Chile or to
Spain and but they're just really hurt
they have a lot of pride for the country
and they they really hate to leave but
something that they feel like they have
to do in order to to live a better life
than what they're living now I mean
there were plenty of times where I would
walk into the convenience store and
there would not be bottles of water so
I'd have to I'd have to make sure that I
prepared the day before by taking
bottles of water from the field or
filling up bottles of water wherever I
could whenever they had it I had made
sure I had to stock up and buy them in
advance but there were plenty of times
where I went into their version of what
would be our CVS or Walgreens and there
was no water on the shelf so that was
another interesting experience for I
would say the the things that I tell
people that I noticed the most where the
the military presence was absolutely
unbelievable I stayed in a hotel what
was considered to be one of the nicest
hotels in the country and there were
plenty of days where I where I woke up
and I didn't have running water or
didn't have hot water the hot water
wouldn't turn on or I couldn't flush my
toilet and but I there was a mall there
was a three-story mall underneath my
hotel that I was able to walk around
that I felt pretty safe but you walk
around this mall and you're walking past
military guards you know every 30 feet
and it's something that takes a little
while to get used to another thing was
just walking into restaurants and then
tank telling you that they didn't have
certain food for the day like chicken or
marinara sauce it would be like walking
into Olive Garden in America and them
saying we don't have any chicken today
or we don't have any you know alfredo
sauce and it lots of times I'd go to
restaurants and what would be a
four-page menu would be condensed into a
little tiny write-up of five choices
that you would get for food items that
you could pick from based off what they
had in stock on that particular day you
didn't know whether they were gonna have
more chicken the next day or not and it
was a it was kind of kind of crazy to
see that happening and then the long
lines that I noticed at ATMs and at
banks money was almost impossible to
come by when I was there they moved to a
system where
most everybody had bank cards because I
talked to a couple of the locals and
they said that in order to pay for
anything there he'd have to bring stacks
I mean stacks of food and the lines
I mean stacks of money and the lines at
the ATMs would be people would wait for
two hours and the most that you could
take out in any given day while I was
there was five hundred thousand bees and
just to put that in perspective when I
got there in 2016 a plate of chicken and
rice and avocado and plantains was I
think three thousand bees and when I
left six weeks later it had gone up to
seven seven eight thousand bees so it
had more than doubled in the six weeks
that I was there so fast forward
thirteen months later I come back to the
country in the same plate of chicken and
rice and beans and plantains is
forty-five thousand bees and I left six
weeks later in the middle of December
and the same plate of food was a hundred
and five thousand bees so in the course
of fourteen months the inflation had
went from three thousand to one hundred
and five thousand and still only able to
get out five hundred thousand bees from
the ATM at one given time so enough to
pay for five lunches and then you have
to stand in line the next day and do it
all over again for two hours so it was
um luckily for me I was able to to trade
my money uh on the black market but if I
was trading my money through the
government exchange rate at the airport
or anything like that it I wouldn't have
been able to feed myself so the
government is in control the exchange
rate and they they don't really do a
good job of accurately representing the
inflation that is happening in that
country so it's it's runaway inflation
and it's it's only getting worse I think
I just saw on the news a couple of weeks
ago that the hospitals are no longer
allowed to put as a cause of death for
children starvation because if the
hospitals were allowed to put starvation
as a cause of death
then it would raise a lot of red flags
in the national and the and the
worldwide community so it's a serious
situation that's happening over there I
saw it firsthand and it's there's a lot
of desperation and a lot of sadness on
on the faces of the people that are over
there in Venezuela but overall they're
wonderful people that are going through
a really tough time for sure I don't
know how flex I mean 75% of people on
average lost 19 pounds and that's
ridiculous you had two million people
leaving the country it's it's horrible
sad situation what's going on there and
we really appreciate you telling
everyone what's going on there there's
so many people who just don't realize it
yeah there's a anybody who who complains
about like the system of the economic
system that we have here in America
should should think twice before doing
so and and have a little bit more
gratitude for what we do have like being
able to walk into a building and and
turn the lights on and know that they're
gonna turn on there was plenty of times
where they were rolling blackouts in the
city and or just being able to take a
hot shower I know those things people
take for granted but or just being able
to walk into Olive Garden and know that
you're gonna be able to get chicken if
you want chicken and those are things
that the people are struggling with
there or just walking into Walgreens and
being able to get a bottle of water and
you know those people are going going
without a lot and it's a sad situation
but hopefully the the government can
turn around and they can they can get
back on the right track but it only
looks like it's gonna get worse before
it gets better unfortunately yeah if you
want to see the detrimental effects of
socialism just go visit Venezuela and
Prager you actually has a video with a
Debbie D'Souza on Venezuela what's going
on in the country and really how bad
it's gone so check out that video if you
haven't seen it Lyndsey I want to thank
you for talking to me and thank you for
talking to our audience today there's
great insight yeah I appreciate it thank
you guys very much yeah this is will wit
with Prager you thank you everyone
