MATT WALSH Discusses Dr. Phil Appearance, Censorship, & Dating - Will & Amala LIVE

[Music] hi and welcome to the dr phil show today we have a very interesting program there's been you know issues that i've been seeing a lot of people talk about parents in particular about you know transgenderism in in america and i i will say i'm not too well versed on this so i decided to bring on uh what could be considered a transgender expert here we've got uh wilhelmina witt here um wilhemina can you first explain to the audience how you identify um i identify as a woman oh that's great wilhelmina and can you please uh for the audience not for me for the audience uh explain what a woman is well audience i actually can't define what a woman is it's whatever you want it to be i i'm just not quite understanding how you can identify as a woman and not know what a woman is well you don't understand it because you're a transphobic bigot excuse me young lady look look at him interrupting listen if you're not a woman or transgender then you can't tell me what a woman is okay and you know what ladies and gentlemen i i'm not typically rude but we're gonna have to cut this program short um young lady if i can call you that no i'm gonna i'm sending you to the ranch immediately to the ranch you can get out of the ranch when you identify what a woman is okay i don't know what a woman is yes ladies and gentlemen welcome to will and amla live was that too far off from what we saw in dr phil last week probably not if you guys watched the show at all last week we reviewed matt walsh on dr phil talking about his stance on transgender ideology on a sort of uneven playing ground against two people who identify as non-binary and then an expert in the field of transgenderism i'm assuming or apparent uh so we needed to bring on matt walsh to sort of talk this through talk about his experience on the dr phil show and other issues so here's that interview guys and before we get to that remember we have a new youtube channel that you guys can subscribe to the will and amla channel 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reaction been from from your point of view you know honestly it's been uh surprisingly overwhelmingly positive from from what i've seen i mean i i expected i expected more of a clear split between left and right and of course you know a lot of the liberals are mad but um just looking even uh i looked recently at the dr phil's own youtube page and not that it's a scientific view of it necessarily but it seems even there majority of the comments are kind of on my side so it's been it's been more more overall positive than uh than i expected so i'm actually i'm somewhat encouraged uh for the first time in a while by that what about from conservatives has it been pretty clear cut on that pretty much all the conservative side is supporting you or has been there has there been much disagreement there not not that i've seen i mean and that's not because conservatives usually are are very happy to criticize me if they see a reason or opening but at least when it comes to discussion actually on dr phil itself i think that's um if you're conservative and you found any reason to criticize the notion that you know women can give birth and men have penises which is basically what i'm arguing then then you really have to you really have to look within yourself so it's been you know it's there hasn't been much of that that i've seen i'm i'm curious one of the big sort of gotcha moments in your appearance was when you asked them to describe what a woman was and they had a really really hard time uh giving you a definition for that why do you think the transgender community and those that support uh that community have such a hard time defining what it means to be a woman well it's just the fundamental incoherence of their position i think that um you know this this this goes down to there's this this tension really that you find with what they were saying about quote-unquote gender and that's why i think it's important by the way when we talk about this then this is what i tried to clarify on the show that we use these words gender and sex kind of interchangeably but for most of human history and especially in the english language you would have talked you would have just talked about sex male and female gender is a linguistic term um and only in the last you know 60 or 70 years have we decided that people also have genders as well but then if you look at it's interesting for decades after that point um they we were told that you know gender is your is a social construct and uh really it's something that we have to kind of break down and get away from but now what you hear from from the trans advocates and from the trans agenda is that well if a boy partakes in the artificial construct of femininity then that means that he actually is a girl and so they actually are giving they're giving more weight to the so-called social construct than anyone ever did before and so that's that's just the incoherence of the view um where they're holding these these different ideas that don't really work together and all you have to do is start pulling out that thread a little bit and it all it all just kind of collapses why the big push i mean why is it such a a stark issue right now that so many people get so vitriolic about i mean seeing the reaction from from these people who you were on the show with getting so absolutely angry i mean and you talked about on your show about these people's intentions and you weren't entirely sure if these people had the best intentions with what they were doing do you think that most of these people who believe this have good intentions and they're trying to help the world and make it into this more progressive place where people can be free to be whatever gender they want or do you think that it is for more of the selfish egotistical intentions where this is something to make themselves feel good yeah no i think they have they have evil intentions for sure i don't think that they're they're good intentions here at all i also don't believe that most of the people who claim to believe this actually do which is why they which is why they can't even begin to defend it i mean i'm sorry i just i just don't believe that there might be a very small minority of people who are you know mentally ill and just basically crazy and and really do think that for example uh men can give birth but i i think that that portion of people are is very very very small there's a much greater portion that are they're actually pushing these ideas and i don't think they really believe it and i do think that it's evil intentions and when i say evil intentions by the way i'm not talking about from like uh that like these are superhero super super villain comic book characters where in their own heads they're telling themselves oh i'm evil and so i want to do an evil thing that's not how evil people operate in the real world so when i say evil intentions what i really mean are selfish intentions where you're worried about yourself and you don't really care about the costs i talked about um we talked about in dr phil uh and a lot of this part of this conversation was cut and you know and i think a lot of that was just for time they cut a lot of stuff but we talked quite a bit about the problem of of girls being sexually assaulted in the bathroom and also and this whole portion was cut from the from the program we also talked about women being raped in prisons by males who are put into female prisons this is a big problem it's happening and you know i brought this up to the other side and uh there's no other way to put it then they just don't care they they just don't for them that is a that is a cost worth paying um as long as they get their way ideologically and they get to feel better about it and i don't know how else to describe that other than than evil i mean if you're okay with with girls getting raped in a bathroom or a a woman being locked in a prison cell with a male sex offender if you're okay with that um it it's just not possible to have good intentions and and it results in that yes one thing to be ignorant it's one thing to be ignorant and not know the information about what's going on it's a whole nother thing to see what's happening in front of you and say my agenda is greater than these people's lives that's what that's what it really boils down to yeah and i think we got into a healthy debate on the show over that use of the word evil and whether or not that pertains to people like that because typically i i used to be a former leftist and i'm also a woman so i tend to be the more compassionate out of the two of us when it comes to our show and i tend to think that the the people on the ground here that are pushing this transgender ideology do not have evil intentions or in many ways like will would say are ignorant to what their ideology and what their push for that ideology truly means in the real world but i'm curious what else got cut from your interview because if i had seen the parts where you talked about uh you know women being abused and these women in prisons i think that might have influenced the way that i looked at the two people you were you were talking to yeah there was a lot it was it was mainly a big and i'm trying to remember everything that was in because it was a longer conversation and things are cut down by the way i say things are cut i don't i'm not accusing dr phil's people of doing it for ideological reasons actually i think i kind of went into it expecting that i didn't know what was going to happen but they were i found them to be quite quite fair and i was impressed by that but like i said things just get it's a long conversation to cut things off because they they stuff in a lot of commercials um it was a lot of it was a lot of that about the the sexual assault and then there was also an exchange that i had with the the mother at the end who's raising a quote unquote genderless child where um i asked her you know would you because she was bragging about the fact that she's she's going to let her child choose his own gender and i said well would you let him choose his own race also uh and if not why and she said she wouldn't dignify that question with it with an answer and they cut that part too unfortunately so but it was mainly the the things about sexual assault and this is like this is a conversation of course that's that's happened a lot and i brought this up quite a bit to the other side and um they they're not going to come out and just say it like this but the reality is that um they know that it happens you can't deny that it happens it is happening and so it is a it's just a cost and they and they think it's worth paying and also even getting a site i brought this point up to i can't remember if i made it into the final cut or not but we could talk about the women who are physically abused and that happens much more common though you have women and girls who are really uncomfortable sharing these intimate spaces with men and they're saying even if nothing's happened to them physically they just are really uncomfortable with it they don't like it they feel like their privacy is being infringed on and what the other side tells us is that well you feel that way on the other hand we have this small minority of trans people and it would make them feel bad if they're not allowed into these spaces and their feelings take priority over yours yeah i mean it's the same thing with them telling me that i'm transphobic because i don't want to date a a trans woman yeah it's like that that makes absolutely no sense you're putting those people's feelings above the feelings that have been constant in humanity for the last what two thousand years something like that what has been the the main strategy when you've seen this and talk to people i'm curious if you're if your clip and all of this have been able to to change people's minds have you heard from people and said i watched the clip on dr phil i watched you and your arguments and it turned me to the other side or at least opened up my mind to some sort of new way of thinking have you seen a lot of that i think when it comes to this this issue uh if you're talking to someone who's fully invested in it like the people that i was on stage with you're not going to change their mind in an instant in one conversation i never had any illusion there's anything that i could have said that would make um you know the guy with the dress and the beard just say you know what you're right never mind and and give up that's not going to happen all you could do with with that is just maybe plant some seeds hopefully that will sprout into rational thought later in life i think what the the the people that we can really reach are just normal people who are not intensely ideological who do understand the difference between males and females but they find themselves suddenly living in a culture where everywhere they go this other viewpoint is being shoved down their throats and they're being berated constantly um that they have to abandon everything that they thought they knew about about biology and science and and reality and i think there are a lot of people like that who they they know the truth but um they're they're starting to feel kind of confused and bewildered by it and so i think those are people who you can pull back from the brink and you could say no no you were right you're right about this and uh it's so it's so and that's okay and this is the right view and i think those are the people that were that were hopefully reaching and it's sort of like we're you know giving people permission to just have common sense and be be sane i suppose right and i think where a lot of conservatives tend to jump in on the issue is when it starts to affect children which we've been seeing now across the nation in public schools children being taught about this gender theory and sexual identity at really inappropriate ages now you came out with a book called johnny the walrus and it's funny because when you google search it it says johnny the walrus best-selling lgbtq author so i think that's hilarious uh what do you think we can do to stop this ideology being taught to our children in schools what should parents be doing what should educators be doing uh well parents fortunately there are a lot of parents already doing the the right thing and i think number one the best thing that you can do if if you're able to do it is to get your kids out of the public school system get them out of the government school system entirely um and rescue them from it because we're not at a point where we can trust the government schools we'll never be able to trust the government school system because the government school system exists to condition children to be the sorts of people that the powers that we want them to be uh that's why the government school system exists so that that's the best thing you can do and we are seeing that trend more and more where homeschooling is becoming more and more popular um i think through the um the shutdowns and everything with the school system shutting down all they did was prove to a lot of parents that you know what we don't actually need you i can do this myself that's the best thing well unfortunately there are people who because their financial situation they just they're not they're not able to stay home or whatever so they have to send their kids into the school system right now and if you have to then the next best best thing to do is to be very very um involved and to want to know to demand to know every single thing your kid's being taught and we're seeing that with the school board movements across the country um because once this stuff is exposed and once it's out there in the open i think people really start to understand you know how bad it is i think the left has overplayed their hand i think that when it comes to these mandates when it comes to the gender theory all the other nonsense that they push for they've overplayed their hand and pushed it so heavily that they've turned normal people into these type of activists that you talked about people who are now going to homeschool their kids or go to rallies or go to their school board meetings do you think that the left their narrative is collapsing in a way that is going to potentially change the culture or do you think that it's so pervasive and so extraordinary that it's going to continue to do more and more damage i think it kind of remains to be seen it really is up to it's it's up to the same normal people to to take a stand and say we're not we're not going to cooperate with this and there's been signs like at school meetings that people are willing to do that but the reality is that you look around the country and although most people seem to know how crazy this is it's still it's still happening i mean i think if you were to talk to almost anybody on the street and uh especially if they thought you know that they were um that they were talking privately to you and you would ask them should should males be allowed to compete against females in women's sports i mean almost everybody i don't think i've ever met in just normal everyday conversation a person who actually thinks that we should do that and yet it's it's still happening though everywhere because although people know how crazy it is um they've been berated into silence and so all it takes is just to stop remaining silent the other thing though is that you know you've got two different groups here you have the adults who were raised in a culture that wasn't perfect but at least for most of their formative years everybody knew that men were men and women were women at the very least so you have those adults but then you also have children and uh children you know at a very young age you can you can easily convince a three-year-old that a magical fat man flies through the air and comes down to chimney to believe to deliver presents because children have no um they're not able to distinguish between fantasy and reality you know and they're a lot easier to indoctrinate the left has found so i think that's their gambit right now is they're saying well a lot of you older people you're you're hopeless we're not going to be able to get to you but these kids if we can if we can shove this into their minds relentlessly through all of their formative years then they're going to be hours they're going to be sufficiently conditioned and so that's why we have to prevent that right and i think we're seeing a great schism happen in america of people who support progressivism and progressive policy and then those who want to maintain that traditional conservative route that the country was founded on and and you guys made a statement daily wire in recently moving from los angeles to nashville i'm wondering how has the move been and how's your new state uh i think it's been great now i i actually most most everyone here yeah that came from los angeles i was actually living in uh rural pennsylvania in like a one stop sign town in amish country um and so while everyone here is everyone from los angeles they're talking about how this is you know it's a much more laid-back environment and everything for me it's it's kind of kind of the opposite adjustment but uh overall it has been i mean i think it's been great the people here are very very welcoming and it kind of shows you i've traveled around the country and um you know this is this is one place where most of the people you run into are friendly to us and are appreciative of the fact that we're here um and most people even through the pandemics seem to have retained their sanity so it's been overall it's been a positive experience i'd say what do you think about california i mean knowing that the daily wire was from here do you think that a state like california is a lost cause or somewhere like dc or new york chicago do you think these places can be saved because i mean every single day we're on the fence here at prageru about what we're supposed to do you know if we're supposed to leave or if we're supposed to stay and fight what do you think yeah i think it is a lost cause at the very least um i don't think that we as conservatives should be trying to save it i'm not really sure why we would you know you uh during the the recall election and the recall effort in california there are a lot of people very excited about the idea well can we get a republican governor in california and um my point all along was why would you want a republican governor in california why would you want a republican to be the one overseeing this this mountain of filth and and decay i mean why would you want them to ultimately be the ones responsible for it um this is a mess that the democrats have created and unfortunately lots of democrat voters this is apparently what they want and they're getting it and so if it's going to change i think it's going to be up to the democrats to do that um i don't think conservatives should expend much energy trying to save essentially the left from itself i just don't think that's energy well spent i think it's probably a futile effort i mean if you're in a burning house what do you do do you try and put the house out with water from your sink or do you leave the burning house i mean that's what it's really come down to it's very true uh i want to switch gears here just a little bit because i would be remiss if i didn't ask you this we ask all the married men that come on this program for advice on dating we have a lot of young people who watch this show and you put out a show yesterday describing the dating scene in america as a toxic wasteland and every single week we do an advice column where young girls and guys write in about how much they're struggling with dating and in the current state of the dating scene right now what is your advice to those people as a happily married man um be uh just become monks you know move into the woods and determine i mean i'm half kidding i think if i was still single that's probably what i would have done by now i just i i thank god that that i'm that i'm married uh it does feel like i said yesterday speaking of burning houses as a married person i i feel like i just escaped the burning house and i'm turning back and watching it collapse behind me um but you know that's for people who actually on the dating scene i i think um there's there's a there's a few things here maybe the number one most important thing is to go into dating with a goal in mind with an end point in mind and um this has been the problem with quote unquote with modern dating you know ever since it was first conceived because if you go back 100 years ago nobody was talking about dating there was courtship that's what we that's what we would refer to a lot of other cultures had even things like arranged marriages it's so this modern idea of dating is relatively just that modern and um what distinguishes it from courtship is that with dating there's no necessarily necessary end point in mind you're just kind of like doing it you're just sort of hanging out and talking to someone and then walking along randomly with no with no direction and then eventually just part ways um and so it's kind of doomed from the start so i think you should go into it knowing that listen it doesn't mean that the first person i date i'm going to marry them but that is this it's a tryout period you know it's um it's like a job interview and uh i'm seeing if this is someone who i would want to spend the rest of my life with and the moment that i determine that they aren't then you just you part ways right then whether whether it's an hour into it or a year into it the moment you realize i i could not spend the rest of my life with this person because whatever the reason is we don't share our fundamental values whatever it is that's when it ends right there and then you move on you try to find the next person now i realize that it becomes more difficult even if you go into dating with a goal in mind like that and you have this kind of goal goal-oriented dating it can be hard to find other people who are approaching it the same way that's the challenge but at least you know you know what you're looking for if you have that in mind great yeah guys date with intention i get so many girls who like you said in this episode about west elm caleb they were so upset that this man ghosted him and it just is very clear that he was uh not had no intention of seeing a long-term relationship with you and he'd probably let you off early if you get the cow and the milk for free that's the way that you're going to act i mean there's a lot of cultural problems in america that make all of this happen matt if you had to say the the main values that are missing from america and the west in general today what would you say are the things that we need to return to or the values that we need to restore uh well all of them yeah the the main problem with with a i don't know what we call the main problem but one of the fundamental problems with our culture is that there's that there are no you know that there are no fundamental values at all really i mean that's that's one of the reasons why we talk about is is america going to break apart is there going to be a civil war i don't think there's going to be a civil war but i do think that in order to be you know with the united states of america allegedly in order to be really united you have to be united around something and uh in other cultures throughout history they were you know what what bound them together was shared uh religion or ethnicity or those sorts of things that's never been the case really in america what's supposed to bind us together unite us is um shared fundamental values and but we don't we don't really have that anymore i think if you get 100 people a hundred americans into a room and ask them what do they care most about in life you're not going to find any majority agreement at all and that's uh i think that's that's sort of the basic problem in america do you think there's a way to reinvigorate those virtues and something that we could do sooner rather than later because it seems like uh in in the short term things are going to get a lot worse before we see them get any better what can you do now to to reinvigorate those ideas well yeah you you keyed in on it when you said short term i think that's kind of the point and people don't like this answer when i give it but um and i'm not trying to be discouraging although so much of what i say ends up being discouraging that's not really my intention it's just that i don't think there is a short-term solution i don't think it exists there's not a switch that we can flip that's going to make everything better there's not a five-point sort of plan five-step plan we can follow i know we like to as americans we we always look for those kinds of answers with any problem that we're facing this is one that doesn't have it i mean you look at how did we how did we get to this point as a culture how long did it took it take it took generations to get here so um it's going to take generations to get out and what what that means is that um if there's any kind of saving our civilization reinvigorating our culture anything like that revival i'm not going to be around to see it you guys aren't going to be around to see it my kids probably sadly won't be around to see it maybe my kids kids will and so we have to look at it from a long-term perspective you know you we are rebuilding from the ground up generationally and um that might seem depressing on one hand but it's also sort of freeing on the other hand like just you just accept that you're in this fight for your your whole life and you're not going to see the end of it and your job is just it's just a fight that's what it is um and embrace that and uh and march forward i guess well when you when you say discouraging you say it's going to take people so long and this this will be a next generation not even next generation the generation after that do you think that that gives people really the the motivation to go and fight if they say this isn't even going to affect me in my lifetime or even my children's lifetime what sort of you know motive is that for someone to go and fight and do things if it's not if it has no effect on their greater life well if we don't care about the future if we don't care about our legacy if we don't care about our families down you know in our in our uh down the line um in our progeny if we don't care about those things then there's just no hope at all we might as well give up i mean um it may seem discouraging to talk this way to to people in modern culture where we're always looking like i said for instant solutions we live in the microwave culture we want dinner to be ready in 60 seconds or less um and but that's not hasn't always been that way i mean there was a time i think probably most of human history when people were very motivated by um you know they were willing to suffer and die in their own lives for the idea of what the future might be to build something better for their children and grandchildren all down the line i mean they were thinking thousands of years into the future is what they cared about um and that's the only way to have a thriving civilization is if you care about the long-term future if you don't then there's there's simply no hope so we we have to look at it that way we have to find a way to care about that or uh i i just don't i don't see any other any other pope i was i was on twitter this weekend and there are some people who i guess you could say are more liberal and they say something that's kind of conservative something that's been said by conservatives for months and months and basically all these mainstream conservatives are jumping on and just congratulating these types of people and it seems like for conservatives like we are not winning in that cultural war and that is why we take these people who are liberals and jump on everything they say like it's the greatest thing ever and so one of the final questions to you today is is what can conservatives do better and what should they really be aiming for because it seems like just the conservative messaging that you see on social media that you see on on these news stations or even in the republican party any of this it's just not doing it for our country yeah and i agree with you and and uh yeah i mean barry weiss was one example of real time and she said some things about the the pandemic uh or you know the lockdowns and all that and conservatives were hailing her as a hero we tend to do this there was there was a time when we were um hoisting nicki minaj up on our shoulders and saying she's our conservative champion for i don't even remember what she said now but you said one thing and we were so taken by it there's something about getting coveted with like some medical thing with your testicles with questioning it you know yeah something very odd something really important like that but um yeah i i think we have to be to be smarter about it and there's nothing wrong with you know forming an alliance a kind of strategic alliance with a person or a group of people because you have one particular goal in mind you're trying to accomplish and so if one of them is to stop all the dystopian draconian covet measures then absolutely you know march alongside anybody else who shares that goal but you have to understand that they're not part of the larger kind of struggle and you have to be able to sort of compartmentalize it that way which i don't think we've been very good at doing i mean talking about dr phil um i've had feminists like left-wing feminists get in touch with me and um are very happy about it and uh you know they want to link arms and join forces to fight this fight on on gender um and that's a very new experience for me to have feminists saying anything nice to me whatsoever and um hey if if if this is about rescuing a little bit of sanity when it comes to the topic of biological sex i will i'll march alongside anybody for that but i'm not under any illusion that we have some kind of partnership now that extends beyond this one this one issue yeah that's how it was for me this weekend i spoke at that defeat the mandates rally in dc and obviously i'm more conservative but the person who came after me was a black lives matter guy obviously i don't agree with basically anything this guy believes in but he was against the mandates and it's like all right for this one thing we can put aside our differences here and say all right we are against these mandates but in the greater picture we have to understand that there is something bigger and we're not just going to herald anyone who comes over to believe the things that we do as new heroes of our side or anything that's the right approach it's just about being it's about being smart and strategic which like i said as conservatives we haven't always been the the best at strategic thinking i think and uh we have to get better at that fantastic well matt i want to thank you so much for being on our show i would like to end this on a motivating note so what's your message of motivation to the people especially the young people watching this and how can people support you and find you um motivational message uh i guess i should rat on something motivational after all the hardest question matt said in a long time that's all it's always can you find something positive to say that's always gonna be the hardest question yeah yeah you know what i'll jump right over to uh where you can find me is on twitter at mattwall and you can find me on youtube as well matt walsh fantastic that was pretty motivational yeah but find me that was great and follow me and uh we'll we'll make it better tomorrow well the people people need to see the discouraging things i you know it's all the messaging about oh everything's fine everything's positive when you see that then it makes you content it makes you not want to fight so the fact that you go out i'm actually kind of on the same side as you that it's like you need to show people the evil things or the bad things happening all the time so that they feel motivated to go and do something amen amen brother hey well we appreciate you coming on the show uh everyone make sure you're checking out matt walsh on daily wire all the social media everything he's got going on thanks matt thank you appreciate it what a great guy matt is really taking a stand uh i wonder if he anticipated being as famous as he is now he's really shot up in the last year you know someone who is kind of ben shapiro was the daily wire when people thought of daily wire they thought of of ben shapiro now and he's really making an impact which is really cool to see because i love seeing people who who get that type of attention who are so strong about what they believe in right i think it's showing a shift in the culture of conservatism and just politics and culture in general yeah and he's really one of those conservatives that continues to mic drop on twitter so good for him yes guys now we're going to get into throwback thursday which is our thursday segment we do it every single week on the show and today is my throwback thursday uh so i decided i i like to do throwback thursdays uh that particularly pertain to the day in history that we're talking about today's january 27th and guess what on january 27 1880 thomas edison patented the electric lamp slash incandescent light bulb so i wanted to focus on my throwback thursday on american innovation and someone who i think was an exemplary american in his time in this country and that is thomas edison so really really crazy to have patented the electric lamp uh slash light bulb at this time now a lot of people give pushback to thomas edison because a lot of his inventions were were works on other people's innovations so the light bulb many of you might not know because we all credit thomas edison with inventing it was already invented before he patented it in uh january 27th so what he actually did was created a light bulb that lasted more than just a few hours and used a different mechanism and he was very famous for taking other people's innovations and just simply making them better which i'm sure made a lot of people upset yeah i'll keep going with your thing thoughts about thomas edison yeah a lot of people look back on him now and call him something called a patent troll meaning that he simply looked at what other people were creating and made it better but let's do a little bit of a deeper dive into thomas edison so thomas edison had thousands and thousands of patents put in his name i believe maybe not thousands and thousands i believe he got to 1098 before dying uh there are six key inventions that thomas edison is credited with these six uh inventions are the automatic telegraph which allowed you to send messages again there was a telegraph before he simply made it better he created the tele the carbon telephone transmitter which again telephones were created he just created a better system for that the light bulb the phonograph which allowed you to listen to voice messages and to music which look at how far we've come from the phonograph today and then the movie camera and viewer which a lot of people don't think about and don't attribute to thomas edison but he's the reason you guys get to watch movies now and be entertained also the alkaline storage battery which cars we did have electric cars back in that day a lot of people didn't know that either but they functioned on batteries that were often getting corroded so thomas edison recognized this and said we need a better lighter battery to put in these cars and created the alkaline storage battery now uh i want to talk about his achievements so thomas edison coined the name or was known in his town as the wizard of menlow park for all of his creations and the things that he was doing and he received over 1 000 us patents through the u.s patent system which a lot of people criticize for like i said him him quote unquote stealing ideas but i would see that as is innovating on them and the first patent that he ever filed was in october 13th of 1868 when he was only 21 years old uh i'm 21 now and i can't think about ever inventing something it's so crazy to look back at men during this day and age and what they were doing and philosophizing and creating when the 21 year olds of our time are considerably less intelligent and less involved in innovation and creation now next one here i want to talk about a couple quotes that pertain to thomas edison that i think are really important and just things that we can carry in our daily lives when we're going through failures or struggles he's a really good person to look at so he's famously known for not seeing failure as failure which i think is a really good tool that people can use in their lives and here's a quote from him i have not failed ten thousand times i have not failed once i've succeeded in proving that those ten thousand ways will not work when i have eliminated the the ways that will not work i will find the way that will work and that's the way that we should be looking at our achievements and at science in this nation and worldwide is that when you fail at things or you don't do something correctly you should see that as an achievement because you've eliminated that way of thinking or or that way of going about this certain issue so so often people fail at something that they're trying to accomplish or they're aspiring to and they immediately throw in the towel and think what else can i do now thomas edison failed thousands and thousands of times in creating this invention but with persistence and with eliminating different possibilities he was able to create over a thousand u.s patents so that's something to keep in mind when we're trying to be motivated and i think that's a really good place to look he's also quoted with saying genius is one percent inspiration 99 99 perspiration so work hard for the things that you want to accomplish and inspiration can only get you so far last quote here from mr thomas edison when you have exhausted all possibilities remember this you haven't and that's my throwback thursday i know he exhausted all possibilities in destroying nikola tesla yeah i do not like thomas edison was very having a hard time the whole time no i think thomas edison is a hack and he essentially tried to destroy tesla's career which he he basically did because thomas because nikola tesla's alternating current was better than the direct current that thomas edison had developed right and now we use alternating current and everything everybody knows alternating current loses loses less electricity than than direct current and thomas edison hated this and did everything in his power to destroy tesla and tesla was doing things not for money not for anything you know he wasn't he wasn't trying to take over patents to to earn royalties like thomas edison did which made him incredibly rich nikola tesla was a true inventor and visionary of his time yeah i think none of that negates i think contributions listen no i i thomas edison did good things there's no denying that he did some good things and was someone who is admirable in many ways but he also did a lot of very bad things and took advantage of people and and to someone like nikola tesla who was selfless in many ways an absolute genius like basically a human calculator who was doing things for you know hate to use this word but for the greater good because he wasn't doing them uh selfishly he was doing everything practically selflessly i mean nikola tesla died in a hotel room alone with no money after you know spending all of his money to do things for humanity all edison wanted to do was destroy tesla i think there is there are so many historical figures that we look at and history does lack nuance in a lot of ways uh which is why i don't believe in the hero archetype as it pertains to anybody historically i think we can look at any historical figure and go into their past and pinpoint a time that they've done something wrong or done something that people maybe nowadays would describe as evil but i think it in no way negates the the innovation that this man has created or the world change that others have created we look back at lincoln or at mlk or at the dalai lama and these are people that we herald as being amazing men of strength and and heroism and we can look back and pinpoint times in their careers and in their lifetimes that they have done horrible things not so much with lincoln but definitely with mlk and the dalai lama and mother teresa people who we herald today and i think that in no way negates what they've given to our society and what they've done which is an interesting debate right i'm just more worried about that tesla doesn't get the same amount of credit as edison i don't know i think tesla's pretty widely widely recognized especially within the scientific community and the innovative community but i think there's like it it's it's how we view history so like i said one of the major problems with the way that we view history but it's not a problem it's natural it's that it lacks nuance of course if you're looking over a span of hundreds of thousands of years you're going to attach yourself to certain people that stick out to you and certain people are going to overshadow others there were so many civil rights activists that were doing work just as important as what mlk was doing but we focus on mlk there are so many people like the dalai lama but we focus on the dalai lama because again we attach ourselves to these archetypes of what it means to hear to be a hero and we herald these people and we give them their day or their month of celebration but there will always be forgotten people in history and where there's a nikola tesla and a thomas edison there is millions of other inventors that we will never ever talk about but i think their contributions still should be recognized yeah i'm just a big yeah you're just a big thomas edison hater i am a hater i am a thomas edison hater i'm a nikola tesla stan i think yeah i just think if we went back and looked at every single hero that we talk about today there is something to find wrong there is some betrayal upon another person or something even horrendous that they've done with mlk specifically i keep going back to this example because i think he he really exemplifies this sort of unnuanced history take that we have mlk did a lot of horrible things in his in his day and age uh the way that he treated his wife coretta uh being involved in the rape of a woman which you guys can go and look up he did actively watch this happen to another woman but when we look at how okay we don't talk about those things and we just paint him as this visionary who was all good and had had only good intentions in his heart and never did something wrong and that's just i think the the rose-colored goggles that we put on when we view yeah historical figures yeah i'm just saying that tesla when you do look back in history i mean tesla really was an upstanding guy like that hero thing we're talking about right now like it's not like an mlk because tesla really was a very good guy i mean really he was he was a fantastic he went he worked for thomas edison and he went in thomas edison promised tesla money yeah for completing this project and when uh tesla went and asked edison for the money sure he didn't give it to him right right and it's like total you're you're a bad guy for doing that edison oh yeah i think yeah everybody's done everybody's done bad things i i oh of course i'm hesitant to label somebody as a bad person because i can think of things that i've done in my life or that we've done in our lives that if viewed historically would be seen as you know a bad thing to do to somebody i think everybody has made bad choices um it's it's interesting to take it into consideration and see what the scope of it is and whether or not that discounts what else they've done oh of course yeah i just i just love tesla i think he's an innovator you know i just want on the show i just want to give him the credit right right credit is due right and say tesla was he was a hero he was a fantastic guy next week throwback thursday is going to be on nikola tesla will's going to submit a video from europe just to talk about nicholas has been paid off by medicine foundation that's what they used to do they used to i mean they literally did propaganda against tesla edison's but anyway no i mean it's a good it's a good throwback thursday thank you you did a great job yeah so but if anything if you're going to focus on anything in regard to thomas edison probably don't take inspiration from stealing people's work and take inspiration from the fact that failure is not failure it's actually a success it's actually learning something about yourself about the world about the way the world works and that you have never expended all of your possibilities that's something that i would urge you to take away from this man and that's my throwback thursday very good thank you i can i can feel the heat seething from nikola tesla the soul of nikola tesla that's still in will if we have any croatians in this audience they're going to have a word with you guys that is our show for today i hope you enjoyed our dr phil opening skit we talked to matt walsh and you got a throwback thursday and is nikola tesla better than thomas edison possibly [Laughter] we'll have 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