Pete Hegseth MELTDOWN

Hey everybody. It's Tim Miller from the bulwark here with managing editor, Sam Stein. And we're here to talk about Pete Hegseth. I think the countdown to the end of Pete has begun. Uh, we'll see. Uh, anything can happen in Trump world, obviously, you know, Pete could talk about how great Trump's hair and makeup looks one day, and that could, you know, be a stay of execution. But, uh, man, a lot of, uh, a lot of signs, uh, that they're looking to make a change. Uh, Sam, since I guess, since we last spoke to, I guess, Bill Crystal, a couple hours ago, we already have a bunch of developments. What, what has struck you the most today as far as the Hegseth drama is going today? Well, let's, let's let, let's set the stage here because it's important. We got a timestamp, these things, obviously stuff this past, when we were recording this, like 4 45 on Monday. So as of now, Hegseth is still. Beautifully employed as a secretary of defense. Employed, uh, Carolyn Levitt, uh, press secretary says there's no way, uh, that these reports that, uh, we are looking for a new defense secretary are, are totally false. She said fake news, fake news, of course, uh, NPR that that was in reference to an NPR report that the administration was indeed. Uh, looking at replacements, uh, Eric, son of Eric, uh, said that he has heard from white house people that they are in fact, uh, looking for a replacement for people who don't have a credit credential, Eric, son of Eric on this point, well, I mean, he's a conservative. He's a conservative talk radio host. He's a conservative talk radio. So he held the, he had the red state gathering, which is very prominent for a while of talk. I knew it point being that like he talks to people. Uh, and if it's the NPR folks brings a little balance to the situation, we have a more left aligned NPR. I wouldn't want to impugn the good people of NPR. Uh, you know, saying one thing, Eric Erickson saying it, it means it's coming from a bunch of different coming from different people. It's in the ether. Let's put it that way. Trump was asked about it. You know, he's, he did his Trump thing where he's like, you know, this is, I stand by the guy and all that stuff. And then the weirdest thing, I don't know if you and bill talked about it was Hegseth himself at the Easter egg roll. I've not talked about that yet. Yeah. So that was a weird one. We should pull up the video of that really quick. Actually. Let's watch full of hoaxsters that peddle anonymous sources from leakers with access to grind. And then you put it all together as if it's some news story. And when we know it, we know exactly what it is. So I'm really proud of what we're doing for the president fighting hard across the board, and I'm going to go roll some Easter eggs with my kids. All right. So there's a bunch of kids. I think they might be his kids kind of looking on skeptically as he explains that all of this is just anonymous. Uh, sources smearing his good name left unsaid is that, um, one of those people is not anonymous, uh, is a ally who actually wrote a very, I just want to be clear, that's that shit doesn't happen normally where your ally, uh, leaves his job, me having been hired by Jeb and then two months later quitting and then going to political and being like, anyone should be president besides Jeb, I mean, like that is the level that we were at was bizarre because he was like, I really love P I really think Trump's doing a great job. There's a lot of vipers around P he should go. Didn't really make the case. Whatever the, he, the point was that things are untenable for exit. Now, I, the thing I want to say is like, I don't really take these, uh, statements from the white house that everything is copacetic and fine. I mean, I take them seriously, but I'm, there's plenty of history of the white house insisting things are fine and nothing's changing only for like. Things to completely change in 25 years. We just went through it with the terrorists, but they were like, there was no pause. We were not even considering pause, never will pause these things. And then Trump pauses them. And so that's just, that's just how it is. Um, in Trump world where you just don't know, he might wake up, like you said, he might wake up and see some Fox and friends segment that says Pete's got to go. And he's like, you know what Pete's got to go. Yeah. I mean, Trump was on the phone with Reince planning their next golf outing and talking about how he has full confidence in the chief of staff, like two minutes before he tweeted that he appreciates rights and serves service and fires them. So, uh, you do never know. Speaking of the tweets, one other thing I didn't get into a bill that has been in development here is, um, as part of Pete's cope, uh, the secretary of defense has been posting through it. There's a pretty funny exchange we can put up, put up on the screen. It's pretty funny exchange. The DNC, the Democrats put out a tweet, you know, talking about how Pete should go, you know, given just the reckless nature of how he's behaved. Pete replies to them like a reply guy underneath the Democrats from his official secretary of defense account. Being like, you guys only care about migrant illegals and trannies or something, and then, and then, uh, the DNC replies, which is like, this is what Pete's phone looks like right now. And it's like a blurry image of a phone. They make it a little drunk joke. I, you know, whatever you think about the merits of the, of the troll war, it's kind of like, it's not a great, it's hard to imagine, for example, James mad dog Mattis, you know, getting into a troll world war or like Robert Gates, you know, this reminds me of the time that Robert Gates decided to go on Twitter and just battle with the DNC over the, you know, how we treated Joe Biden. Now, uh, just a small correction. It was from Pete Hanks's personal account, not the secretary of defense. Just want to be, we respect facts here. But yeah, the whole thing was bizarre and it was like at an odd hour and that's like, don't you have other shit to do? I didn't, I guess that's, you know, this is kind of a theme for the Trump fair is like, they're just a lot of people on Twitter a lot when they should be doing their normal jobs. It doesn't give you confidence that he's got things under control, that he's responding to the DNC. I mean, it doesn't. Yeah. And he's, he's fired his chief of staff, his deputy chief of staff, his top public affairs person has published an op-ed about how he should be fired. And, uh, you know, that Morris to come and he did the worst to come. And Pete, meanwhile, has been like out of the Easter egg roll. Like, you know, that's another thing. I need to go to the Easter egg roll and reply to Twitter. Bob Gates at the Easter egg roll. I like, there's a lot happening in the world. Like we're current, we're in active negotiations with Iran. Uh, we're, we're, we're doing more bombing of Yemen than I think people realize because there's just so much insanity in the news that it's like not getting the coverage that it would have. So it was like a more boring presidency. Uh, I guess we're abandoning the Ukrainians potentially, according to what, what Marco said is, uh, Israel, Gaza war, no ceasefire. I mean, like there's active things happening in multiple theaters. I actually think that the secretary of defense, particularly one who's learning on the job, like would be quite busy, like meeting with military experts rather than starting text change with his third wife and like, you know, going to Easter egg rolls and getting in, in troll fights on the internet. But maybe that, maybe that's, that is his job. I was thinking today, uh, how would Fox news host Pete Hicks have, have treated a defense secretary and then a Democrat administration embroiled in this single gate stuff. And it's just so hard to comprehend how quickly he would demand that not just their resignation, but like probably their court marshalling and things like that. I don't know. It's like, we're so past, uh, well, he doesn't believe in the Jags. So I don't know about court. You're right. Straight to El Salvador, straight to El Salvador for Lloyd Austin. Yeah, seriously. What are your thoughts on like the, the, the Democrats here? I mean, should they be like, just kind of letting this go, right? Like just one of those ones where you don't, you let the, let them bury themselves, right? I mean, obviously when the signal stuff comes up, you have to make the point. Like, this is not acceptable. And yes, you can call for resignation, but you know, it's like, this is, this is a quagmire of their own making. And you're not, your goal is to just get out of the way. Single thing is, yeah, I agree. Yeah. I totally agree. The same thing is so alluring for people who missed it. I interviewed Susan Rice maybe two weeks ago and it's like, we're just going back just to the part of the interview where I asked her about this, because it's obviously crazy in its face for like the secretary of defense to be texting his wife about like the, the time that the F 18 is leaving to bomb Yemen. Like that's crazy. That says, but wait before, honey, do you need me to pick something up on the way home for dinner? And by the way, at the coordinates 1842, Oh my God. You're not going to believe the special. Like here's the exact weapons package we're going to be using. Um, but, uh, in addition to that, like listening to Susan Rice, just talking about how, like the protocols and the caution was, which would say, was it like, I mean, it just, it is so stupid in the whole, in this whole and water emails and all that stuff. Uh, let, let me, let, let's play the lines. Okay. Kelsey, bet the lines. Okay. Oh, great. They asked the question, who will be the first to leave the Trump cabinet? So, so I'm just trying to think. So if you, so if you have Lutnick Besant and, and, and Hank said, there's the main three, I'd say Hanks, that's probably at this point a 55% chance to be the first one gone. 53 nailed it. All right. Nailed it. Hell yeah. And then you told me I would have been wrong with this. I would have guessed then Besant like 30, uh, 20, 25 for Lutnick, but yeah. It's 15 for Lutnick. 11. All right. Who will leave the role in the Trump administration this year? The three options are Hegseth, Navarro and Lutnick. So Hegseth, you kind of guess it's the same percentage. Yeah. Hegseth first again. I obviously 55 again. 54 right there. Now you've got Navarro. I would put him last below Lutnick for me. I don't know. The people have called. She might be wrong, but they think that Navarro is second most likely. Yeah. Second at 36%. Oh, that's wrong. I think. And Lutnick's at 32. That's from Navarro. Navarro is Trump till he died. They're going to carry him out. And that to carry that man out. He's not going anywhere. Yeah. Navarro is just going to just embed. He'll hide. He'll find a place to hide. They'll never find him. Um, all right. That's Guest of the Lines by Kalshi. We should get a sponsorship. We really should. Um, if anybody's watching the list to sponsor the Guest of the Lines segment, let us know, subscribe to the feed. We'll see you later. Hey, YouTube fam. 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