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Start budgeting for free today. My wife
and I are starting over back in baby
step number two, and she feels our
budget is too restrictive without any
room for fun money. And so my question
is, what amount of our income should we
budget for while in baby step two? And
how do I get her fully on board without
making her feel quote unquote
controlled? Why are you starting over?
Uh yeah, so in 2023 we took FPU through
our church and we had a really um great
success with it. Got off all of our debt
besides one vehicle and at the time um
our house we hadn't moved in yet, but we
had a house also that was in the future.
Okay. And um anyways, yeah. So
unfortunately what happened was my wife
started to kind of um feel very
controlled um and because she was not
able to say yes to things like giving
gifts for baby showers and not able to
go out to eat for you know uh dinner
with friends and stuff and so she found
herself always kind of calling me and
being like well can we do this thing for
$50 and I was like it's not in the
budget and so then she started to kind
of you know get mad at me as her, you
know, spouses. So, it sounds like you
did a budget and told her what to do.
Yeah. What's different this time?
Yeah. Well, so ultimately, um, since
then, we've had a baby boy who was born
in 23, 2023. Okay. And, um, we have
another baby that is coming, uh, in May,
at the end of May. Um, and so we're
really excited. Yes. Uh but ultimately I
am I'm freaking out and I've told her
many many times about this and I said
listen like um we need to we need to do
something and I you know John Deloney
said it great. He said I feel like a
gazelle that is anchored down and that's
genuinely like how I feel. So Right. But
what changed with your wife? We know how
you feel. I think she's never been on
board.
Yeah. It's it's always been kind of my
idea to do this. Um, and she's been
supportive at times. No, she's not. Um,
it's only to a point, right? She doesn't
want to feel that. Until she hears Until
she hears the word no, she's supportive.
She's not involved at all.
Can you tell us more what the debt is
and your income so we can see a clearer
picture?
Yeah. Yeah, the debt's pretty bad. So,
um, credit card debt we have 19,300.
Okay. Um, cars were at 64,000. Can you
break them down? one and two. Yeah. Yep.
Car one is
27,000 and car 2 is 37,000.
Okay. Car two is hers and you bought it
since you went through FPU.
Yes, that is correct. Is it a minivan?
Yes. No, it's a Tesla. Okay. And can you
tell me what they're worth? What's the
$27,000 one worth?
I I don't I I don't know. I think the
$27,000 one is a Hyundai Santa Fe, so
it's probably 18 to 20. Okay. So, did
you have that prior to FPU?
Yes. Okay. And the 37, what do you
think? It's fairly new.
It's Yeah, it's fairly new. It's
probably You probably could get 28 for
it to 30. Gosh. So, Hayden, here's the
deal. Okay.
She's not involved in this at all
emotionally and so you've become her
parent. and she doesn't like it when you
tell her, "No, she can't go to the
movies.
No, I can't do this." And and you're
getting tired of being the parent. So,
um ultimately, you two probably need
marriage counseling. You need to sit
down with somebody. Uh not because of
FPU and not because of Ramsay stuff, but
because you're the only grown-up. Mhm.
And you're and you're trying to raise a
kid now and it's freaking you out. And
it's good that you are freaked out
because you need to address this issue.
And so she's uh because it and the and a
part of that goes all the way back to
when you all were in financial peace
university, she went against her will
because her husband begged her to and
she loved her husband and she wanted to
try to do what he wanted to do. She went
in there and listened, but she did not
buy into a different future that you
saw.
And once she gets the why you're willing
wanting to do this, why you're wanting
to do this, why you're freaking out,
then the how will
change. But until she's in agreement
with you about the future vision of
where we want to go and why we want to
go there, you're not you're going to
struggle. And you know, you didn't have
the marital uh chops to defeat a $37,000
car purchase that was absolutely
asinine. It's asinine. Yeah. And you
knew it when you did it, but you went
along with it trying to make someone
happy by buying them stuff.
And it doesn't work, huh? It doesn't
work. So if you can't get with her and
the two of you say say number one I'm
freaked out honey I'm carrying all the
stress and all the load of these
ridiculous purchases that I have allowed
to be made in this house and I'm
freaking out and I'm not doing it
anymore. Number one. Number two, um the
two of us need to start thinking about
what our future looks like in HD and
what it's going to take for us to get to
that future. If we cannot get aligned on
that in the next 10
days, we need to sit down with a
marriage counselor because I'm not going
to be your daddy and tell you no
anymore. And I'm not going to
participate in a situation where you're
whining to your daddy that his budget is
too
restrictive because you're imposing this
on her and she's not got any adult
ownership in the sacrifice that has to
occur for you all to swim on this cuz
you need to sell her car yesterday. Mhm.
It should have never been purchased. And
you guys need to get on beans and rice,
rice and beans. And don't talk to me
about baby showers when you've got dead
up around your neck and you got a
one-year-old. The only baby shower is
showering this kid in food and diapers.
That's it, right? Your kid, not other
people's kids. And don't talk to me
about your Instagram life. I couldn't
give a crap less about your Instagram
life. But that's that that's that's me
being mean and um forceful because
that's what I see in your all's lives.
You guys have you you've got to want a
bright future more than you want a false
present. That's right. Yeah. My guess is
there's something behind this. I think
Dave is right. You go to counseling,
you're going to figure out what that is
because there is something stopping her
from wanting to go all in on this. And
usually we see Dave that kids kind of
trigger something in you. It's not done
that for her. So my guess is there's
something deeper in here and I do think
that counseling is going to reveal that.
But at the end of the day, like we're
the only ones that can change. You can't
make somebody change. So, she's got to
get get on to it. Yeah. You But you
you've been talking about what way too
much and not why. Why? Mhm. And you've
got to work on that. And then she's got
to She's going to have to take an adult
position in this relationship where we
sacrifice together for the greater good
of our overall family. Not I want
something that you got a long life. You
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