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xander.com. Hi, I um am in find myself
in a lot of debt because my husband um
has I we were we've been married 27
years. Sorry, I'm rambling already.
We've been married 27 years and I've
always allowed him to handle the
finances. I quit my job, stayed home
with our four children, and um have just
trusted him with the finances. And in
the last couple of years, I've I've just
slowly been uncovering a lot of
dishonesty and um finally ended up
filing for divorce after I found out
most of it. Um, I'm I'm still not sure I
know everything, but I I think there is
a close
to a million dollars in debt right now.
And I'm afraid that I'm I'm going to
be responsible for half of it if in
worst case scenario, hopefully I won't
be on the on the hook. What kind of
debt, Kathy? What kind of debt is this
million? Well, there's about He hasn't
paid income taxes in three years. How
much is that?
about 160. God. Okay. Um there's about
$80,000 in credit card debt with cards I
didn't know existed. Um there's a
$550,000 mortgage on his office building
that I'm I was a personal guarantor on
and you didn't know about it? Um I'm
sure I signed it. It's my signature, but
I don't I don't remember doing that. I'm
just I like I said, I feel like an idiot
because I've trusted. All right. Well,
while hold on a second while we're on
this list, I want to just cover what as
you of what you've given Jade so far.
How much of it are you on the hook for?
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How much of it are you on the hook for?
Well, I'm assuming all. I mean, our
taxes are joint.
the credit cards. Some some say they're
from his business, but others say I just
started opening the mail recently and
I'm seeing this. The only card I was
aware of has is maxed out at 30,000 and
the rest are other ones. Did you know um
is there anything else on the list by
the way before we keep going through?
So, so far we're at we're not at a
million yet. Okay. Well, on two in
2019, my father passed away and left me
a significant amount of money and he
immediately started asking me for money
to help with the his businesses um and
said he'd pay me back and I've totaled
all that up and it's about 500,000.
Okay. So, I'm counting that in the debt
that he And when he was borrowing that
money, do do you have any idea what it
was being spent on or it's just kind of
that cloud of businesses? Well, he would
he would say taxes or payroll or this
bill or that bill. And is there any
record of that? Like did you guys other
than you just talking about it in the
kitchen? Right. Right. Well, you could
probably kiss that 500,000 goodbye.
Yeah. So, so let's take that off the
debt list just for the functionality of
this. My guess is that How long has it
been since you filed the divorce? Uh,
two weeks. Oh, okay. My guess is that I
mean Ken, they're probably going to look
at this and split it down the middle
based on how long you guys have been
married and based on and that your
name's on these things. Yeah, your name
is on it. Now, I do I hate this is
happening. But there's a part of this
where you do have to it's like he did
these things, but you also have to own
your part in it, which is, you know, he
has an office building. How do we think
it got there? You know, there's all
these things cropping up. How do we
think that we're paying for him? And you
know, here on the show, we're always
teaching how money is just it is a joint
thing that couple I don't want to say
venture because it makes it sound
business, but it is this thing that we
both work together. We're both um
plugged in. We both are dialed in as to
what's going on. It can't just be he
handles that, I handle this. Everybody's
got to have their brain on and looking
at this because really this is what
happens when you don't. So, I'm
realizing, all right, so let's talk
about how to dig you out of this. So, if
I'm if I'm paying attention, I'm trying
to We're really talking about, and I
think Jade's right, let's assume that
you're going to have to pay half.
Hopefully, that doesn't happen, but the
we haven't even started this fight. So,
that means you would you would owe
250,000 if the judge split it down the
middle. Is that correct? Um,
approximately. I'm I'm anticipating and
my lawyer thinks we'll end up finding
more, but yeah. Are there any what we
know today? So, my question is, what
about your house? Is your house paid
for? Okay. So, our house is paid for. We
We sold a a house and we cleared we
rolled part of it over into the new
house, so it's paid for. How much is the
current house worth if you were to sell
it today? Um, I think it's probably
worth maybe 2 million. Okay. Okay. So,
that's good news. Yeah. Any other
assets?
Um, well, it was all of his business
holdings, but I think they're all gone
from what I can tell. But he The problem
is he won't tell me anything. He's not I
He will not give me any information.
Well, that's not your problem anymore
because this is going to get hashed out
between the lawyers. So, the way you
started this call is how do I get rid of
this debt? And best that we can tell
what we're operating off of right now,
Jade, is
250,000. We think worst case scenario.
We can't guess what may be out there.
But what we know today, how would you
get out of it? And and that becomes the
issue. You haven't worked in how many
years? Um 27. I just got a job last
week. Oh, good. What are you doing?
Yeah, I'm an attorney. No way. Well,
hello. You hid that detail. What kind of
an attorney are you? Appallet. So, I
don't know anything about this financial
stuff. I'm learning, believe me. Yeah,
but what can you I'll never be in this
position again. No, we're not beating up
on you. We're actually trying to help
you here. So, my question is, what are
you going to make this year?
130. Great. Okay, great. All right. So,
between the house as an asset, Jade, and
uh you making 130, this is not the end
of the world. That's the one thing I
wanted to hear. You'll probably split
the debt in some form of fashion. Okay.
You'll probably split the assets in some
form of fashion. Hopefully, it's fair
for both parties. And it sounds like
there's going to be enough assets for
you to clear your debt and still have a
decent amount of money. My guess is
something's going to happen with this
house. you're probably going to sell it
and split the profits is usually what I
suggest, especially if there's not kids
living at home, that kind of thing. Um,
and then yeah, whatever debt you're on
the hook for, you'll take that money and
pay off that debt and you'll likely have
enough money to go out and probably buy
another house outright, depending on
what you choose. And you'll ride off
into the sunset and like you said, you
will have learned many, many lessons out
of this. What's the big one? What's the
practical takeaway? Let's fast forward.
Let's be positive, Kathy. Now, this is
going to be too soon on some of this.
I'm about to say, but I'm leading my my
partner here somewhere. So, uh, let's
assume we're all clear of all this mess.
She meets another fabulous man and she's
in a relationship. She's in a married
relationship. What does she learn from
this practically and tactically? What
does she do different next time?
Different. The different move is
everything is 100. Like, we're keeping
everything above board. We're talking
about it. Um, and anything that you have
questions about, you're saying out loud.
You have something to bring to the
table. He has something to bring to the
table. No one gets to just quote handle
it. You know what I mean? Yeah. No
excuse, Kathy, to not know anything or
very little. So, now you know. And, uh,
get your head up. This is not fun.
You're getting ready to go through a
really tough deal and you're in the
middle of the storm right now, but
you're going to be okay financially and
you're going to be okay emotionally. and
uh you'll be you'll be okay long term.
So, appreciate the call. Okay. Thank you
so much. I appreciate it. Oh, that's
tough stuff, isn't it? Yeah, it is. It's
just so duplicitous to be Oh, word of
the day by Jade Warshaw. Folks, use that
word. You know, a guy.
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