Chairman Palmer Delivers Opening Statement at O&I Hearing on Stopping Illegal Robocalls

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Jun 5, 2025
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Good morning and welcome to today's hearing entitled Stopping Illegal
Robocalls and Robotex progress challenges and next steps.
All of us have personal experiences with unwanted robocalls and robotext.
Some are
merely annoying, but others have devastating consequences. For example,
in March, the FCC warned consumers about scam robocalls targeting
older Americans and the Department of Justice announced that it charged
25 individuals for participating in the same scam that defrauded
Americans out of more than $21 million and more than 40 states.
The scammers made phone calls pretending to be an individual's grandchild
who needed money for bail and after being arrested,
Or pretended to be the grandchild's attorney and were told that they
could not speak to anyone about the arrest. This is one of the many
heartbreaking examples of scams perpetrated on Americans by illegal
robocallers and bad actors. According to recent estimates in April
of 2025, nearly 2000 robocalls were placed to US consumers every
second. Spam and scam calls make consumers feel threatened, fearful,
and distrustful of legitimate causes. As more and more Americans
ignore calls from unknown numbers, they miss important calls.
Moreover, fraud perpetrated against Americans by illegal robocalls
costs an average of $25 billion annually, primarily affecting those
who cannot afford such losses. We're also seeing a lot of unwanted,
uh, and scam robotext and AI generated phone calls and text messages
including voice clones and deep fakes. According to the FCC, consumer
complaints about unwanted text messages, increased 500-fold between
2015 and 2022. Americans are frustrated and understandably so. In
2019, the bipartisanalon Thum telephone robocall abuse criminal enforcement
and deterrence are traced back, was enacted to help reduce the flood
of illegal robocalls. The trace act allowed the SEC and law enforcement
to impose stricter penalties for intentional violations of the telephone
Consumer Protection Act or TCPA. Improved, improved adoption of technical
solutions like stir and shake and call authentication framework and
established a federal interagency working group to combat illegal
robocalls. As a result, US telecommunications scares have made progress
implementing stir shaken into their networks.
This framework authenticates that phone calls are coming from a legitimate
phone numbers, which helps reduce the number of spoofed and illegal
robocalls. Generally to operate within the US voice service providers
must now implement robo call mitigation programs and follow these
plans and they're shaking compliance uh certifications, certifications
in the robocall mitigation database overseen by the FCC.
Moreover, in July 2020, the FCC recognized the US telecom industry
trace back group
as the single registered consortium to conduct private led.
Trace back efforts that identify the source of an illegal robocall.
The FCC also has also taken measures to address the growing burden
of unwanted and scam robotexed and abused AI technologies, specifically
in March 2023, the agency adopted regulations targeting scam robotext.
In addition, industry actors have partnered with federal agencies
to launch new programs such as Robotex tracing. Lastly, in August,
the FCC proposed rules to protect consumers from AI generated robocalls
and robotexts. These are steps in the right direction, and I applaud
the coordination we've seen thus far. While the TCPA has provided
many useful tools, the TCPA's private right of action has given rise
to class action lawsuits focused on minor infractions rather than
the bad actors responsible for placing a legal robocalls, and it
has not reduced the number of illegal robocalls or improved consumer
protection. In addition, stir shaken implementation among smaller
carriers has been delayed, and bad actors have exploited these providers'
reliance on legacy infrastructure. Moreover, a majority of the illegal
robocalls and Robotechs originate overseas, making them hard to trace.
Because these bad actors are outside the jurisdiction of US law enforcement.
They're challenging to combat. Finally, the FCC must grapple with
emerging technologies and navigate the best way to create appropriate
guardrails for these technologies while simultaneously continued
to support innovation. We will always have robocalls and robot texts
because not all of them are illegal. Many are used for legitimate
purposes by used businesses and public entities, but we must continue
finding ways to combat the unwanted communications.
I want to thank our panel of witnesses for joining us. I look forward
to a robust discussion to understand the current landscape of illegal
robocalls and robotex plaguing US consumers and businesses, so we
can work together to identify and address remaining challenges.
