Bill Gates Looks Back On His Early Years In New Memoir | The View
Jun 15, 2025
Bill Gates joins “The View” to discuss what he was like as a kid and when he started taking school seriously. He also opens up about his journey with neurodivergence in “Source Code.”
So Bill, this new memoir, which is first in a trilogy
that you're writing covers your early years
all the way up to the founding of Microsoft.
Now you've spent most of your life focused on the future
and the next great innovation.
What was it like to have to stand still
and look behind you and sort of go through
who you were and who you got to be?
Well, most of my life, as you say,
has been pushing ahead as fast as I can.
And even now there's incredible innovations
for health and education that I love working on.
But as I'm turning 70, which you're with me on that,
maybe it's time to look back a little bit.
And it was a fun process talking to my two sisters,
thinking about how lucky I was to have the father I did,
the mother I did, and how they dealt
with my unusual characteristics,
which weren't always easy for them,
and really directed my energy in a way
that ended up working out better than I deserved.
Weren't always easy is a very generous way
to capture a lot of your childhood.
Because when you weren't the straight A student
a lot of people would expect, including myself,
you were the class clown and quite rebellious.
I'm gonna run through a highlight reel real quickly here.
Feel free to elaborate.
So in fourth grade, you made a classmate faint
and show and tell, never seen that done before.
By 13, you were sneaking out of the house
until 2 a.m. in high school.
You passed out drunkenly in the teacher's lounge.
One.
Okay, sorry, just one.
At 21, you talked your way into jail for a night.
And at Harvard, a professor summed up your attitude
in one word.
What was that?
Well, was it when he said I was precocious?
That might be it.
That's very charitable.
That's charitable.
Also charitable.
And probably correct.
Anything to add to the color of these stories,
or do they stand alone?
Well, I was a goof off until about ninth grade.
And then I decided, okay, they actually think I'm dumb
and I don't want them to think that.
So I did get serious about school in high school,
and then I was lucky enough to spend a few years at Harvard.
It was weird because some teachers said
I should be pushed ahead a grade or two.
Some said I should be pushed behind,
literally in the same year.
And so that confused my parents a little bit.
Well, you open up about your neurodiversity,
saying you probably would have been,
if you'd been diagnosed at the time,
you probably would have been on the autism spectrum.
And if you were growing up today,
at what point did you realize this
and how and when did you learn
to channel it into a strength?
Well, I knew my ability to concentrate
was different than the other kids.
I'd be in my room reading books
and just digging into topics.
I wrote a report on Delaware and I did 170 pages
and the other kids did five pages.
On Delaware, oh, yeah, hyper-focused, yeah.
I must have misunderstood that one.
And I didn't think about this diagnosis
until I was an adult and somebody asked me
and I was like, wow, that's interesting.
I was late to develop socially, I rock a little bit
and I challenged my parents quite a bit.
So, no, I definitely think
I would have been diagnosed that way.
Interesting.
Well, in middle school, you forged a connection
with a classmate who would later go on
to help you found Microsoft, two classmates, I believe.
But one member of the group, your best friend Kent,
died tragically in a mountain climbing accident
when you were in high school.
You write that you think he would have been
the third founder of Microsoft.
How did that loss affect you at such a young age?
Well, I had such an idyllic childhood.
There was, other than this close friend dying,
nothing traumatic and he and I talked
on the phone every night.
So he went off to this mountain climbing thing,
which is kind of strange that he did
because he was no more coordinated than I was.
And I got a call from the headmaster that weekend,
which was very unusual.
And he told me that not only had Kent been injured,
but that he had died.
And so, you just don't have a concept
of somebody your age disappearing.
The only thing that really got me back engaged
was thinking of his parents
and how much worse it was for them.
They were so excited about his energy and possibilities,
and that was taken away from them.
And in fact, late in the book,
I talked about running into Kent's father
and talking about what would have happened
if he had been part of it.
My other friend, Paul Allen, was the co-founder
and played a very key role in thinking up
the idea of Microsoft.
And he got to participate
in seeing essentially our dreams come true.
Well, you have some major milestones coming up,
like your 70th birthday, which you mentioned,
the 50th anniversary of Microsoft,
the 25th anniversary of the Gates Foundation.
When you reflect on all that you've achieved,
what is your biggest regret
and what's your proudest accomplishment?
For my life overall, I'd say my kids are what's most amazing.
I have two granddaughters who I was with this weekend,
two, and that is one of them right there.
In my work, I put the foundation work
even a bit above the Microsoft work.
The fact that there were so many things
that weren't being worked on, including polio, malaria,
that we've been able to come in and fund the great scientists
and work with governments,
including up till now the U.S. government.
So, I'd put that of my professional achievements
the highest, but for my 20 to 40, creating Microsoft
and the empowerment that personal computing brought,
I was so lucky to be one of the leaders there.
It's really amazing when you think about it,
people always think when you're a kid
and you're different, they just don't know what to do.
They don't know how to handle it, but look what happens.
Support your kids who are different, it can work out.
They can be Orbeez or Bill Gates, you guys.
This is true.
Bill Gates, thank you, thank you, thank you
for coming to this table.
Please come anytime, you're more than welcome here.
No, it was fun, thank you.
Oh good, the new memoir, Source Code, My Beginnings,
is available right now.
Scan the QR code on your screen to purchase it.
And members of our audience,
I bet you knew I was gonna say,
you're taking home a copy of the book.

